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My Take on the 2018 Maven Coalition Conference in Whistler

Updated on July 12, 2018
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I had the pleasure of being invited to Maven's conference, by HubPages' staff, where they discussed the future plans for the two companies.

In April 2018 Maven had a conference with over 200 Maven Coalition journalists and authors in Whistler, British Columbia, Canada, to discuss their business plan for the Coalition. They asked HubPages to invite 50 of their authors to attend the three-day conference, of which 21 showed up.

We learned that Maven’s goal is to create a revolution (James Heckman’s words in his keynote address). That business plan is necessary in the wake of large media firms that are too powerful.

HubPages has always worked hard at doing whatever is necessary to help us succeed while other writing sites have come and gone. Maven is continuing that effort, in many unique ways, so that we will all survive.

Combining the three companies, Maven, HubPages and Say Media, is a self-fulfilling prophecy with a combined 98 million monthly visitors.

James Heckman, Maven's CEO, said in his keynote address, “This makes us bigger than the New York Times, bigger than Yahoo News, bigger than CNN.com, and heading towards Twitter size.” He explained that the plan to combine the best authors and journalists, who have survived the latest struggles of the Internet and have a passion for writing intense and superb content, creates the most powerful union that demands a premium opportunity for advertisers.

Maven’s Journalism Platform

The way I understood what I learned is that the Maven platform is mainly for journalists who dedicate their work to the business of writing for a particular audience.

This includes best-selling authors, top analysts, and those involved with important causes. These are the writers that Maven invites­—offering to have their content hosted on their site.

I spoke with several Mavens during these days at the conference and a couple of them told me that they pay Maven 50% of their earnings. I asked if they meant that Maven splits the earnings 50/50 similar to how HubPages splits ad impressions 60/40. I was surprised to learn that they need to get their own revenue source and they pay half of that to Maven for hosting their channel.

Journalists, who are considering joining the coalition, have a following of loyal readers. Their readers pay to register with them for access to additional content beyond a pay wall.

This is totally different from the way we have it on HubPages, and I’m not even sure this is the norm for Maven or if it was only unique to the Mavens I spoke with.

However, later in the week I learned that Maven is creating a tool to allow readers to subscribe at a fee to specific channels. I’ll discuss Maven's monetization tools in a moment.

How HubPages and Maven Are Different

I see the two platforms as unique in their own right. Maven is more related to building a coalition of journalists and bloggers, while HubPages is a community of writers for magazine-type articles (our hubs).

The two can definitely exist as one while sharing the brains and business backbone of their respective founders.

Changes will be expected, but the tools and publishing methods HubPages has put into place will not be pulled out from under us. No one should have any fears of that happening.

For example, our individual network niche sites will remain under the domains as they have been created. For that matter, Maven is already linking to them from their new search engine (maven.io). In some cases the links go direct to subcategories in our niche sites.

The work that HubPages has done has already proven to help improve our ranking with search engines. I spoke with Paul Edmondson on a number of occasions over these days together, and he agreed that HP understands that. There is no reason to unravel that progress.

In any case, our method of income for writing hubs will not change. For that matter, it will only get better with new income streams being created such as Header Bidding and Exchange Bidding Dynamic Allocation (EBDA), not to mention new technology from Say Media.

Say Media

Maven is expanding their efforts for our success with the acquisition of Say Media, a technology and advertising firm.

I personally had the opportunity to chat with an employee of Say Media on the shuttle back to the airport and we discussed their use of Header Bidding. This is a method of selling ad space on our articles to the highest bidder, thereby leading to increased revenue for us all.

What Does Maven Ownership Mean?

On the last day of the conference Josh Jacobs, one of the founders and a media and technology innovator, gave a speech that made everything clear. He was addressing the authors who are Mavens or who are under consideration.

Josh explained that Maven invites writers to join the coalition who already have an existing audience. Writers continue to own their content and are free to use it as they see fit, but in return for bringing their audience to the coalition they will be rewarded with shares of Maven publicly traded stock (Ticker symbol MVEN).

Writers can concentrate on content creation and not worry about how to make everything work. Technology is changing really fast and Maven engineers are working on methods to engage readers, keep them on the site longer, and keep them coming back often.

Maven's Monetization Tools

Maven is also working on integrating various monetization tools that writers can use on their channels. The advantage writers have is increase in revenue through various types of monetization.

The Maven platform offers a subscription service. Readers have a choice of engaging with content and ultimately deciding to pay to see the best content. Maven subscription provides an added revenue stream.

Josh Jacobs compared this to the way the New York Times sells subscriptions to readers. He says that readers are more and more ready to pay for content. I guess that all depends on the type of information.

Maven will soon be rolling out an advertising portal built right into the site with a custom media kit where the reader can buy a subscription with a credit card online.

Loyal readers who do not subscribe will still create revenue because of ad impressions.

Socializing with Other Hubbers

It was wonderful to have had the opportunity to finally meet other Hubbers and get to know them personally. We’ve shared socially over these few days in Whistler. It wasn’t only conference meetings.

We ate together in restaurants, traveled into the mountains where the skiers were enjoying the snow, and some took excursions on Friday to enjoy the morning hours away from the hotel.

The experience of getting to know other Hubbers has been most delightful. I’ve learned that no matter what their beliefs, attitudes, or backgrounds, they are all genuine people with kind manners and respected insight. One can see why they are successful with their writing.

Peak to Peak with Paul

I felt privileged to ride the Peak2Peak gondola on Whistler Mountain with Paul Edmondson. This was another opportunity to get to know him and hopefully for him to get to know me a little.

Ironically, I used this opportunity to share a few system bugs with him that he will convey to the programming staff.

Paul Edmondson and Glenn Stok in the Whistler Mountain gondola.
Paul Edmondson and Glenn Stok in the Whistler Mountain gondola.

I also learned from Paul the reason why we were having trouble understanding the way the new Q&A works. I mentioned that there seemed to be a discrepancy with the way each of us were experiencing it as we discussed it in the forums.

He explained that this is because they are running an A/B test. Some Q&A become individual pages that Google can index and others simply are included in the respective hubs. This test is being done to determine which works best.

In Conclusion

Writers on HubPages will continue to have the tools to publish articles on our vertical network niche sites that are monetized by Google AdSense and the HubPages’ Ad Program, as well as Amazon sales.

Mavens who join the coalition to write on the Maven platform will have the built-in tools to allow readers to purchase subscriptions to read additional content.

The way I understood everything, we will remain as two separate platforms with the publishing tools that we are both familiar. That’s not to say that the technology of one will not be used by the other. I’m sure that may happen, and it already is in some cases.

All in all, I came home with a new appreciation for this entire business plan that we are all part of in one way or another.

Don’t underestimate the revolution. I expect us all (Hubbers and Mavens, or Maven Hubbers, whatever) to be around for a long time while the Internet, and media in general, changes over the years.

© 2018 Glenn Stok

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    • Glenn Stok profile imageAUTHOR

      Glenn Stok 

      6 weeks ago from Long Island, NY

      Virginia Kearney - The A/B test on the Q&A is completed now. They now use an algorithm to decide where the answers are placed—Either on its own page or as part of the original article.

      I noticed my views and income increase significantly since then too.

      It was good meeting you at the conference too.

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      Virginia Kearney 

      6 weeks ago from United States

      Hi Glen! I enjoyed meeting you at the conference and I'm glad you've posted this article to let other's know what we learned. I am interested in what you said about the A and B Q&A situation. I will have to see what is happening on my own Hubs. I really enjoyed getting to know Paul and his wife Robin. I felt they really cared about HubPages and all of the writers. Paul told me he felt a responsibility for his writers and helping them keep their income. I know that since the Maven merger my own earnings and traffic are significantly up and I hope that is true across the site.

    • Glenn Stok profile imageAUTHOR

      Glenn Stok 

      3 months ago from Long Island, NY

      Jack, The new ad features have already been rolled out. Exchange Bidding Dynamic Allocation and Header Bidding, both of which require advertisers to bid on ad space, have been in place since the end of last year. In addition, Say Media is already placing ads on our hubs.

      Thanks for your comments. I’m sure Maven will continue making changes as they learn what works. I like to say, “as they learn from HubPages.” For example, our method of using vertical niche sites is a proven success.

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      Jack Lee 

      3 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Thanks for this informative article. I would have loved to attend the conference and meet some of the key players and ask questions.

      It seems to be the problem is with Maven and its site. HubPages is doing just fine with its platform despite some bugs...

      I am not getting the same feeling regarding the Maven site.

      They need to do a lot more to improve the website and the human factors and keeping it fresh...

      The few interactions online I had on Maven is not as rewarding as being on hubpages forums...

      Anyway, hope the new plan works out.

      Would like to know what is their schedule roll out of the new features you mentioned. Thanks again.

    • Glenn Stok profile imageAUTHOR

      Glenn Stok 

      4 months ago from Long Island, NY

      Thanks for your delightful comment Jean. It’s wonderful to see you are putting the new features, such as the Q&A, to good use by understanding how to use them.

      Thanks, also, for your comment about that guy. I feel bad for him, because he actually has important things to say in his articles and I wish he knew how to get his hubs into stellar condition so Google would index them. I can see that he is knowledgeable about his topic. His only problem is that he just doesn’t understand that poor spelling, poor grammar, bad punctuation, and poor SEO, are what’s holding him back. He prefers to blame HubPages and others. How sad.

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      Jean Bakula 

      4 months ago from New Jersey

      Thanks for another informative article Glenn. I find that with the new Q&A and changes from Maven, I am making more money, and I can count on it every month.

      Sorry about the guy who trashed you. I go through long periods when I don't write new material. I am just at a point where I am down to the last 15 of my hubs and am deciding if I want to fix them up for niche sites. I get sick of some of the older ones.

      But I have a folder of new ideas here ready to go, and am heartened by things again. Just waiting for a creative spurt!

    • Glenn Stok profile imageAUTHOR

      Glenn Stok 

      4 months ago from Long Island, NY

      Pollyanna Jones - It’s a pleasure to have read your comment on this article. Glad you found it helpful. I enjoy helping others with tips and guidance for writing on HubPages. You can find those articles in my profile listing too.

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      Pollyanna Jones 

      4 months ago from United Kingdom

      Thank you for the write up and explaining your findings. I have found this very helpful!

    • Glenn Stok profile imageAUTHOR

      Glenn Stok 

      4 months ago from Long Island, NY

      Brandon, for some reason your comment went into the spam folder. I just found it here, but I remember seeing the same in one of the forums, where I had replied to you.

      I believe my Google Analytics Guide that you are referring to was about how to sign up for it. I recall removing that a long time ago since it was out of date based on all the latest changes, and not worth updating since the learning center has sufficient guides on the topic.

      All my hubs for Hubbers can be found by clicking the HubPages logo on my home page at GlennStok.com

      Your Hubpages SEO guide has a ton of useful information and I recommend it for all Hubbers to read.

    • Glenn Stok profile imageAUTHOR

      Glenn Stok 

      5 months ago from Long Island, NY

      Audrey Hunt - Too bad you didn’t try. I didn’t have a passport either, so I paid extra to put a rush on it and I received it in time for the trip.

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      Audrey Hunt 

      5 months ago from Idyllwild Ca.

      I was invited to this conference, but unfortunately, the invitation did not allow me enough time to take care of a passport. I would have loved the opportunity to meet fellow hubbers, like yourself and Paul. Hopefully, there will be other conferences in the future.

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      Brandon Lobo 

      5 months ago

      Hey Glenn, I can't seem to contact you as you do not have the contact the author option. I hope you get this comment, I am writing that Hubpages SEO guide I promised the people a few months ago and I would like to link to your Google Analytics guide. Could you send me the link via the contact the author button on my profile or hubs. Thanks.

    • Glenn Stok profile imageAUTHOR

      Glenn Stok 

      5 months ago from Long Island, NY

      Thanks for chiming in Dan. I see all the problems he creates for himself and I would have liked to help him, as you had, but he is in denial and he refuses to understand that the issues he writes about have nothing to do with his failure to know the requirements for publishing as a writer.

      I realize I can't help him. He just trashes me too and never reads my other articles where I have all the answers to his questions.

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      Dan Robbins 

      5 months ago from Ohio

      Glenn - Brad is just an angry man. He did the same thing to me and when I offered advice, was trashed for it. I don't usually chime in on these things but I'd find something better to do with your time than work with him. He tirelessly trashes HP for his lack of success and those who have success are crappy writers who are somehow affiliated with HP and must be the only explanation for why they have a decent Hubber score. Sorry to comment here but wanted to throw in my experience with him. (I'm not offended by your rejecting this comment...was just easy to reach you this way.)

    • Glenn Stok profile imageAUTHOR

      Glenn Stok 

      5 months ago from Long Island, NY

      Thanks John. I see the same affect on my income, which is why I'm so motivated to keep updating hubs and writing new ones. The updates work just as well and is time well spent.

      I believe a lot of the increase we are seeing is a result of the new ad auctions that Maven introduced, such as Header Bidding and EBDA that Paul announced.

      Of course the creation of the niche sites has also been a game changer. Most of my income is from the niche sites.

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      John Hansen 

      5 months ago from Queensland Australia

      I don't know why the people who are negative about the changes HubPages have made still stick around and continue to write here. Maybe they are actually making money despite their whining.

      I have been here eight years and my income per month has quadrupled in the last after gradually increasing for the last three months. So, in my eyes, whatever HubPages is doing as per the niche sites and MAVEN merger is working. Good job with sharing this information.

    • Glenn Stok profile imageAUTHOR

      Glenn Stok 

      5 months ago from Long Island, NY

      bradmasterOCcal - I couldn't post your last comment because it doesn't relate to this article about Maven. If you want help with your SEO problems, post your questions in one of my writing tutorials and I'll be glad to help you. I see you have important and useful content that you write about, but you need to learn SEO.

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      Glenn Stok 

      5 months ago from Long Island, NY

      bradmasterOCcal - I don’t really know what you’re trying to achieve. You seem to be quite angry about something. I think it might be because you don’t seem to double check your beliefs about HubPages and you overlook a lot of things. By the way, you might try getting my name right.

      Hopefully I can address your concerns...

      First of all, quality is more important than quantity. I had published about 200 hubs in nine years but I deleted the ones that were not working back in the days when Google gave poor ranking to authors who had just a few low quality articles among the good ones. That was also corrected by HubPages discontinuing having each author under their own subdoman. But that was before your time, so you don’t know about that.

      It was further corrected by creating the niche sites that only stellar articles get moved to.

      Deleting low quality content is also the only way to be able to maintain the money makers without being overwhelmed. Beside that, I updated almost all my remaining hubs in the past year, keeping them in Google’s limelight.

      What you overlooked is that I did publish two new articles in the past two weeks. I guess you overlooked all of that.

      As for Maven, I am obviously being neutral. If you had read my first article about Maven, you would see that I was quite tough on them. I was even concerned that HubPages wouldn’t accept it, but I needed to show my audience that I am not biased. And, no, I am not advertising for Maven. I have nothing to gain for that.

      As for Maven favoring the left, that was a concern of mine too, but I found they do have a neutral totality because of the concervative journalists they include in the coalition. You probably overlooked that too.

      You say hardly anyone is writing hubs. I see you came here only three years ago. I have news for you. Things changed. Everyone knows they need to focus on keeping Google happy. They spend more time updating than writing new content, although there are dozens of new articles published every day. You must be missing that too.

      Another question you had asked...Commenting in the forum does not bring revenue. It’s just part of being social and joining the community. Everyone here is so helpful to others. It’s a pleasure to be part of it and I try to do my part helping others when I can. It’s my way of giving back what they gave me when I was a newbie once.

    • Glenn Stok profile imageAUTHOR

      Glenn Stok 

      5 months ago from Long Island, NY

      Well Jackie, I guess it really all depends on the type of content.

      Journalism, which Maven seems to focus on, tends to attract an audience that’s willing to pay for content.

      However, we will never lose the method of monetization that HubPages offers with paid advertising, in my opinion. HubPages is constantly working on improving that, with things such as ad auctions — Header Bidding and Exchange Bidding Dynamic Allocation — Both of which HubPages introduced last year.

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      Brad Masters 

      5 months ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Glen

      You seem to be shilling for hp and Maven. Isn't time to tell everyone what you have to gain, that you haven't divulged.

      The revolution that I would like to see at hp is them either confessing their left bias, or centering it.

      You have a 98 score and yet this is the only article that you have published in the last 8 weeks, and when was you last published article beyond those 8 weeks.

      This hub should be classed as an advertisement.

      How does commenting and messaging on other people get revenue for you or Hp?

      This was called hubpages, but hardly anyone writes hubs.

      The forum and comment like you?

      Can you be honest here?

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      Jackie Grant 

      5 months ago from UK

      Thanks Glenn, all interesting stuff. I'm particularly surprised to hear that more and more people are willing to pay for content but I think maybe that is the way things are going when printed content continues to decline and publishers are only able to survive with paywalls. Also glad to hear though that HubPages will hopefully remain the same!

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      John Hansen 

      6 months ago from Queensland Australia

      Thank you for sharing this, Glenn. It all points to exciting times ahead for us all.

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      Don Bobbitt 

      7 months ago from Ruskin Florida

      Thanks Glenn - This whole Maven thing has been interesting but, at the same time, confusing. I finally decided to just sit back and wait for something simple that a dullard like myself could understand. And, you did it.

      So Thanks,

      DON

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      Susan Holland 

      7 months ago from Southwest Missouri

      Glenn, thank you for going to the conference and sharing this information. Things are changing and being armed with information is the best way we can move forward. Thank you, again!

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      Kenna McHugh 

      7 months ago from Northern California

      Glenn, Thank you for the clarification. I am hopeful the business plan will be successful. It is exciting times for HP writers, and I look forward to the changes.

    • Glenn Stok profile imageAUTHOR

      Glenn Stok 

      7 months ago from Long Island, NY

      Kenna McHugh - On the first day of the conference James Heckman, the CEO of Maven, said their goal is to create a revolution. That goal is make us (Maven and HubPages) the top source for information and journalism.

      I said “Don’t underestimate the revolution” because I feel that their goal is feasible with the technology they are creating: Improved reader engagement, integrated subscription management, and built-in search capability.

      In addition, enhanced advertising features that Say Media is developing will add to our revenue. Many of us are already seeing the results of Header Bidding in our ad revenue.

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      Kenna McHugh 

      7 months ago from Northern California

      I appreciate your debrief. It is very helpful and sounds like you had a nice time. I have a question: What do you mean by "Don’t underestimate the revolution."?

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      Leonie Manguilin 

      7 months ago from Belgium.

      Thank you so much for sharing what you have learned.

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      Peggy Woods 

      7 months ago from Houston, Texas

      Thanks for sharing what you learned by attending that Maven conference. It sounds very encouraging for those of us who write articles on HubPages.

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      Glenn Stok 

      7 months ago from Long Island, NY

      Very good question Brian. I can give you my opinion based on what I learned at the Maven Coalition Conference last week.

      They compared revenue from subscriptions to the likes of the New York Times. People are very willing to pay for a subscription to read the paper. It’s also true that people pay for various magazine subscriptions. So we know there is an audience willing to pay for content and it’s not unrealistic to expect success by selling news and journalism on a subscription bases.

      However, this only works well if the publisher (journalist or other writer) has a reasonable following. This is why Maven invites authors who can bring an audience, as I mentioned in this article.

      I think both methods will continue to be successful for their own type of content. HubPages will continue to provide ad revenue for writing magazine type articles that can stand alone and are found by organic search, while Maven requires ongoing content creation by the Coalition of Mavens to deliver what their existing audience desires.

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      Brian Leekley 

      7 months ago from Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA

      Recently I read about Twitter co-founder Evan Williams's writing platform Medium. Medium abandoned getting revenue from ads in favor of getting revenue from subscriptions. HubPages gets revenue from ads. Maven, going by this hub, gets revenue from both subscriptions and ads. Steemit makes its own money, a "cryptocurrency". Which, in coming years, do you think will be the most successful and most used way for online writing platforms to make money?

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      Glenn Stok 

      7 months ago from Long Island, NY

      It was't easy Linda. A lot had been discussed at the various meetings and conferences. I had to make notes quickly before I forgot what was said. Thanks for your feedback on my article.

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      Linda Crampton 

      7 months ago from British Columbia, Canada

      Thank you very much for creating this article, Glenn. You've shared some information that I didn't discover at the conference. I want to learn as much as I can, so I appreciate the facts that you've shared.

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      Glenn Stok 

      7 months ago from Long Island, NY

      It was great meeting you too Angela. And thanks for your nice comment. I wrote some of it in the hotel while everything was still fresh in my mind. You should feel honored since you are one of only 50 who were invited to the conference.

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      Angela Michelle Schultz 

      7 months ago from United States

      It was nice to meet you! You did a great job covering the coalition and explaining the things we learned! I feel I am probably one of the least qualified to attend, but felt so honored to join you all. I am hoping this will really kick off my career as a writer, so I can only grow stronger and maybe more focused.

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      Glenn Stok 

      7 months ago from Long Island, NY

      Hi Dan, I enjoyed our discussions too. I’m glad to have met you and gotten to know you. Guess your all set now and back online with the new computer.

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      Dan Harmon 

      7 months ago from Boise, Idaho

      You beat me to it, Glenn - not surprising as I hung around there for another few days and then had to get a new computer and set it up when I got home.

      I think you did a very good job of summarizing the information we got - better than I could have. A key word seems to be "coalition" - Maven is a coalition of many companies and writers and will stay that way. In this regard HubPages fits in very well and will most likely benefit from what Maven, or the other companies that join, can offer. Just as they will benefit from what HP brings to the table.

      I was great meeting you and at least some of the other hubbers that attended. I appreciated our discussions.

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      Liz Westwood 

      7 months ago from UK

      This is a very interesting article with great feedback about what you have learnt.

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      Dora Weithers 

      7 months ago from The Caribbean

      You were the ideal HP ambassador to the Maven Conference, in my opinion. Thank you for sharing this report. I feel more comfortable about the merger than I would have been if I did not read your article.

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      Paula 

      7 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      BTW Glenn, I am so focused on your profile picture, I've seen for the past 6 yrs......I did not recognize you at all with a HAT on!! I guess I'm easily fooled! Doesn't take much to throw me off! LOL

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      Mary Wickison 

      7 months ago from Brazil

      Thank you Glenn,

      After being part of Squidoo, Bubblews, and Niume I was seriously worried when news of the sale came out.

      I'm pleased to hear that the companies are all benefiting from the venture. I didn't realize there would be a paywall on some articles. I can see that for those people it can be a bonus.

      Thanks again for the update on the conference.

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      Kierstin Gunsberg 

      7 months ago from Traverse City, Michigan

      Glenn, thank you for writing this! I couldn’t make it because of school obligations and the matter of small children but I have been SO CURIOUS. You answered a lot of questions and I’ll be clicking back for reference many times, I’m sure!

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      H Lax 

      7 months ago

      Thanks Glenn, I was curious to get an opinion from a fellow Hubpages writer of where this merger will take us. I was already optimistic but your insight adds another layer to it. I'm amazed that 25 people didn't show up as I know many who would have loved to go in their place. I'm already seeing the increased traffic and earnings so I'm pretty enthusiastic to see it continue to grow.

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      Brandon Lobo 

      7 months ago

      Hey Glenn, I did not say that they have made any rash decisions in the past. I was just trying to understand what you meant by the statement: "There is no reason to unravel that progress." I understand it as Paul suggesting that they will do their best not to be on bad terms with Google search again. But I don't want to assume something, it would be easier if I knew what you meant. I'm really glad you were one of the people who went to this conference.

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      Glenn Stok 

      7 months ago from Long Island, NY

      Brandon, In reference to your question, I never saw them make any rash decisions. Everything is always well thought out and tested.

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      Bill De Giulio 

      7 months ago from Massachusetts

      Thanks for the update Glenn, appreciate you sharing your experience at the Maven Coalition.

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      Brandon Lobo 

      7 months ago

      Hey Glenn, thanks for taking the time to write this and also for answering the question I was most worried about: The QnA feature. I am glad that the team is running A/B tests to see what actually works best and is not just assuming that new pages would mean better rankings (considering some answers are answered in no more than 10 sentences).

      I do have a question though: About your conversation with Paul, you add: "There is no reason to unravel that progress." Does this mean that they do not want to undo the progress they made with Google by making some rash decisions or does this mean that you would not elaborate on the progress made by the niche sites? Thanks again for this. Things do really look good.

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      FlourishAnyway 

      7 months ago from USA

      Seems like you learned a lot. Thanks for sharing your insights. I’d be interested in knowing how Maven people are selected and what their income experience is relative to Hubbers. I guess time will tell.

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      Paula 

      7 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      Hi Glenn.. This is all so interesting. Having not spent much time on our site as of late, I hadn't read anything about this conference you and other selected fellow-writers attended in Canada. Since my Hubpages enthusiasm has waned so drastically over the past several months, as well as recovering from a health issue, I have paid little attention.

      Your article is most appreciated, while I feel I may need to know much more in order to fully understand what this is all about. (in communication with others, I know I'm not alone in my need to understand better)

      You certainly were an excellent representative to be chosen. I do hope some of the others who attended will present the information they garnered, as well. The more we're informed, the better.

      Just wanted to say,"Thank you, Glenn." You may be bombarded with questions from this point. Fortunately, you're always willing to help. Paula

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      Sally Gulbrandsen 

      7 months ago from Norfolk

      I really appreciate you giving us an insight into the Maven Conference. It is also reassuring to think that HubPages is likely to be around for a long time. So glad too that you had an opportunity to meet fellow writers and speak with Paul.

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      Randy Godwin 

      7 months ago from Southern Georgia

      No, merely another long flight delay because of the weather in Toronto. I'll tell you about it sometime. :)

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      Glenn Stok 

      7 months ago from Long Island, NY

      Randy, Hope they didn’t lose your luggage on the flight home too!

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      Randy Godwin 

      7 months ago from Southern Georgia

      I'm pleased you wrote this, Glen. You explained things much easier than I could, or would have, wanted to.

      P. S. I thought my flight there was bad, but the flight home? :o

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      Rochelle Frank 

      7 months ago from California Gold Country

      That sounds really good, Glenn. Of all people, I'm really glad you got to go and interact with the principals. I suppose I am among many others who do not understand all of the technical details, but I think we can trust that you do know quite a bit. Your comments are very reassuring, as many of us just want to know that we can do what we are doing now-- and keep improving. Thanks so much for your comments and revalations.

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