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Some Thoughts on The Hubbie Awards, 2016

Updated on September 5, 2016
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On August 22, 2016, Christy Kirwan of the HP staff posted on the HP Blog concerning the Hubbie Awards for this year. I had been anticipating some changes and quickly went to see what had been done. Below is a letter I wrote to Christy and the HP staff that very day. I have not received an email response, but there could be several reasons for that, so I won't worry about it. At the other end of the letter, I'll have some closing comments.

The Letter I Sent to HP Staff on 8/22/2016

Christy, hello. I was happy to see the Hubbie Awards announcement today. I want to make some observations about what you have developed here. First of all I want to say thank you for doing away with several of the awards that really didn't pertain to writing. What you have put forth is much better.

Having said that, I am concerned that what is now proposed is aimed mostly at individual hubs and not the writers themselves. Yes, the hub is an extension of the writer, but It would be nice to be able to single out a writer on a particular vertical site and name them as best hubber on that site. This would be in addition to best hub. One writer might stand out for the quality and number of hubs, but another might be recognized for one specific hub. Those two examples are what I mean by Best Hubber of a site (the one with many quality hubs) and Best Hub (one particularly good hub). I'm not suggesting things be changed for this year, but maybe you could consider something like this next year.

Thanks for listening to my concern. You always have been helpful when I have contacted the staff.

Chris Mills/cam8510

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The fact that many of us don't like the current format implies that we have some better ideas, that we have expectations which were not realized.

Ideas and Expectations

I've noticed several comments recently about the categories of this year's awards. I agree, this is not the format many of us want. The format of previous years had its problems as well. I want to encourage you to talk about this issue, think about it and write back to the staff with your ideas.

When I say, "Write back to the staff with your ideas," I really mean just that. I encourage you to submit positive suggestions as opposed to negative criticism. The fact that many of us don't like the current format implies that we have some better ideas, that we have expectations which were not realized. Well, what are the ideas and expectations?

There is no "Fourth Wall" between us and the staff of HP. We may communicate with them.

Communication

I simply recommend that each of us who has concerns about the Hubbie Awards contact HP staff via email or the blog and communicate your ideas and expectations. There is no "Fourth Wall" between us and the staff of HP. We may communicate with them, and when we do, things will go more smoothly and everyone will be much happier.

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      Lawrence Hebb 7 months ago from Hamilton, New Zealand

      Chris

      Well done for bringing the issues to HP's attention, I'm not one who's worried too much about awards and stuff, I'm just happy mine get featured.

      Having said that I did raise some things a few weeks ago that got sorted out.

      As I said I'm not even sure how the awards work, all I know is 'do your best' so that's what I try.

      Blessings

      Lawrence

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      Deb Hirt 8 months ago from Stillwater, OK

      I suppose they had to do something. The amazing thing about writing on this site, is the residuals that one receives after the long haul. Some days after a new story, I'd get hundreds of hits. Even though I haven't had the time or the inclination, I'm still drawing money.

      I'm happy, though. I got all the prizes, a quick way to get a story out, and a huge readership all over the world. What more could I ask for? I even got some gigs out of the effort.

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      Shyron E Shenko 8 months ago from Texas

      I concur, Chris, you did a fantastic job. Sorry I have to run and will be MIA the rest of the day.

      Blessings

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      Victoria Lynn 8 months ago from Arkansas, USA

      Nice letter! I wasn't crazy about the format this year, but I did make myself go to some of the niche sites. Still, it was impossible to see all the hubbers on each site. I liked the old categories, but maybe there's a way to meet somewhere in the middle where the focus is more on writing but not so complicated as to have to go to each site. I don't know. At least you started the conversation!

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      William Thomas 8 months ago from That Great Primordial Smash UP of This and That Which Gave Rise To All Beings and All Things!

      Hi Chris! How's it going?

      Hey! If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem, right? A little positivity goes a long way.

      Take it easy.

      W.T.

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      Shauna L Bowling 8 months ago from Central Florida

      I would like to see hubbers recognized rather than particular hubs. Perhaps include a best of for each category, but I think it's more important to commemorate the author. For example, funniest , most versatile (is that the same as best all around?), best commentor, most thought-provoking, etc.

      I think it's far too soon to limit voting to the new network sites. As I stated in a forum post not too long ago, far too many quality hubs are still on the HP main domain to disqualify them from a vote.

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      John Hansen 8 months ago from Queensland Australia

      A very fair and unthreatening letter, Chris. I hope they take your suggestions into account for net year. I know last year you suggested "best all round" or "most versatile" hubber, at least they did that this year.

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      Faith Reaper 8 months ago from southern USA

      Thank you so much, Chris! That is so generous and kind of you to take time out to do that for me.

      My high school just had a reunion and I should have gone. I left my hometown when I was 19 and only returned on holidays and such over the years, so I haven't been back in quite some time being all of my siblings now live elsewhere too.

      Columbus is only about an hour and 22 minutes from the city in which I work now, so I do need to just make a day trip one day to see what all has changed and old friends.

      If you have a free minute, it would be great to see a couple of photos of the riverfront. I love it when old buildings are restored. Columbus actually has a lot of great old architecture, which I would love to see restored.

      Bless you

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      Chris Mills 8 months ago from St. Louis, MO until the end of June, 2017

      Faith, let me know if you would like some photos of the city. I have lots of the riverfront area since they have been restoring the old buildings. And the boardwalk along the river is fantastic.

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      Rachael Lefler 8 months ago from Illinois

      Awards are meaningless to me. I just want to do the best I possibly can. If I'm doing that, I don't need an award to be happy. If I'm not, and I get an award anyway, I still won't be content because I still won't be up to my own standards.

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      Ruby Jean Fuller 8 months ago from Southern Illinois

      I am confused. Who has the time to visit these sites and read hubs. Maybe I should take the time and go read some? Anyway, I think your letter was thoughtful and possibly will help in the future. Thank you..

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      Venkatachari M 8 months ago from Hyderabad, India

      I also agree with you, Chris. They should recognize the writer also. Not simply look at stuff. There are so many great, awesome writers here and if HP does not see them as human beings rather than treating them as robots that perform some mechanical actions, what is the point in wasting so much of our talents here instead of building up our own niche sites.

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      Eric Dierker 8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I wonder why we look with marvel at folks who act reasonably and with pleasantness. It is to bad that your approach to life is not the norm but rather the exception.

      As for your subject here: What are Hubbie awards? ;-)

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      Randy Godwin 8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Good luck communicating with HP reasonably, Chris. Besides, if they couldn't forsee problems with this year's Hubbie ballot, then what does it say for their ability to even moderate the forums fairly?

      They don't seem to be "people" people, if you know what I mean. We are simply numbers to HP. I accept this because I feel the same way about them at this point in my tenure here. :)

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      Faith Reaper 8 months ago from southern USA

      Yes, that's probably true about the HP staff thinking it would make everyone happy to include an award for each niche site, when they really didn't think it all the way through for sure.

      I haven't been back to my hometown since my dad died way back when, and after that my family all moved away. I'm sure it has changed drastically!

      Yes, the less drama the better! I had an idea of that sort at the end of 2014, I believe. I published a hub of the Most Memorable Lines on HubPages for that year. I think that is key in good writing, whether or not it is memorable.

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      Chris Mills 8 months ago from St. Louis, MO until the end of June, 2017

      Randy, haha, I won't be having coffee with any of the staff anytime soon, I'm sure, but if I did, I'd be sure to take my own cup.

      Well, all I can say is that change happens when people communicate and cooperate not when the are throwing things/words at each other. So I suggest we all do just that. Appeal to reason and offer a reasonable solution. If it isn't fixed by next year, I'll simply stop participating. We can create our own awards. Thanks for sharing, Randy.

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      Chris Mills 8 months ago from St. Louis, MO until the end of June, 2017

      MsDora, To the staff, it probably looked so easy. Just have us vote on best hub of each vertical site and everyone would be happy. I don't think there was any intent on their part to keep us from voting for people instead of hubs. It was simply a lack of thinking deeply enough to see that that is exactly what we are doing. So, we will discuss it between now and next year and come up with a better plan. Thanks for participating and speaking up.

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      Randy Godwin 8 months ago from Southern Georgia

      I've left a couple of comments on the HP blog, but for some reason they did not see fit to approve them. By this I suppose they didn't place their Hubbie mugs where I suggested either. :P

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      Faith Reaper 8 months ago from southern USA

      Oh, P.S., for me quality always overrides quantity. I do not care for how many times one publishes or not, but as long as they are all high quality. Some tend to publish quite frequently which sometimes can overwhelm their followers in having to keep up reading.

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      Faith Reaper 8 months ago from southern USA

      Chris,

      I was apprehensive to read this hub for fear of it being negative, so now that I have read it, I am pleasantly surprised. Change is always hard initially. I agree that some of the changes are good, but others not so good. I understand they are in a money-making business and are focusing on the particular niche site hubs.

      It would have been nice if they had asked for input from the writers as to the awards. I wish they had included a Best Hubber under LetterPile for Fiction, and one for Flash Fiction and one for Poetry and so on, as well as under each niche site.

      I do feel much better after having gone through each new site to see what they are all about, and found many I already follow and have read the particular hubs, so I voted in that manner.

      I'm glad the Best Hub overall was not under a niche site though.

      I approached the Best All-around Hubber differently this year, as I actually looked at each profile page of those I follow to see who published a variety from poems, fiction, nonfiction, etc. and who actually reads others' hubs and is always sure to leave a comment or be active in the community. I am surprised at my choice this year, for it wasn't who initially popped into my mind.

      There were only two categories I did not vote in as I simply do not read hubs under those categories or anyone I follow did not publish under them that I could find.

      It is a good idea to write to the HP staff. I truly think they were not really going to have the Hubbie Awards this year, and then when questions started being asked about the awards, they may have just threw the categories together real quick, possibly?

      Peace and Blessings ...Oh, I see you are going to remain in my hometown until November.

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      Dora Isaac Weithers 8 months ago from The Caribbean

      Chris, that was a good letter, expressing how many of us feel. I also have writers in mind when I think of voting, but that privilege is denied under the present format (except for the all-round hubber). I really believe that the staff had difficulty coming up with a system which was more appropriate. Hopefully, they will do better in 2017, God willing.

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      Chris Mills 8 months ago from St. Louis, MO until the end of June, 2017

      Get me into the forums and I completely lose this ability, Bill. But thanks for stopping in. I'm hoping next year we have a better list of things to vote on. It should be people centered, writer centered, not hub centered or vertical site centered. This is for us, the writers. Of course we could always create our own awards concept.

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      Bill Holland 8 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Very diplomatic of you, Chris. I love your approach to this....now if we could extend this approach to debates and disagreements about politics, wouldn't that be a joy? :)

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