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The Truth About Making Money on HubPages (and Google AdSense)

Updated on May 12, 2012

The prospect of making money online is like happening upon buried treasure or winning the's possible, but not easy and your chances are about the same for all of them. It seems like it is right at your fingertips,and it is...sorta. The good thing about trying to make money online is it takes little initial investment and it can be fun.

Basics 101

Making money on HubPages depends on how much time you plan on dedicating to it, how consistent you are, and how tech and Internet savvy you are. The basics of HubPages is outlined on many other hubs so I'm not going into detail about all that. I would suggest you sign up for Google AdSense and utilize Google's many tools such as Google Analytics and tools section such as researching keywords and strategies on the Google AdWords Keyword tool.

I'll take a little time here to note the most helpful tool (Google Adwords Keyword tool), in my opinion. The Keyword tool for my profession as a business blogger and social media marketer is essential. The trick to this tool is using keywords (or "tags") that give you the most bang for your buck. Using words that have fairly high search numbers and low competition- the tool will display all this. Applying those keywords strategically, and often, in your hubs or blogs (also in the title if possible) is key.

Key Point: You won't make any money without Google Ads and/or affiliate programs. Sign up for Google Ads and learn as much as possible on there.

Time- how much and how long?

Short and simple- it takes time to make money on HubPages. I read tons of hubs about making money on HubPages and not one admitted HOW LONG it really took. Time has to be the most under-noted aspect among making money online articles, and yet it is the number one important aspect (and truth) about making money online. If you scope out my profile page it will read, right below my picture, that I've been on HubPages for three years. That's your first clue about how long until you can make noticeable money on HubPages...actually that's two clues.

First, it takes a while to make money here- I've just begun to make what I consider a decent amount. I said decent, not great and certainly not a living...yet! Second clue is anyone who has been on HubPages for less than a year and writes something about how to make money on here... is lying or tooting their proverbial, and imaginary, horn. Don't read the hubs about people who made tons of money on HubPages within their first year. It's a crock!

Please note: I will mention thisdue to some commenters who pointed out there are people who make money quickly on here because they already come to Hubpages with experience...writing and/or Internet and marketing savvy.

Now if you spend a significant amount of time on Hubpages you may see better results sooner than I did. I am middle of the road tech savvy so I'm not extremely efficient when it comes to making sense of things like Google AdSense and other affiliate programs like Amazon and eBay.If you are highly tech savvy, have a lot of time to spend on here, and are very consistent with your writing, your results will likely average better than mine.

Other than money: Write for reasons other than money. HubPages began as a hobby... a chance to do what I love (write) and relate to other adults while I was staying at home with my first baby. It's extremely rewarding in several aspects. The good thing about reaching a significant amount of time (3 yrs) and perservering on here is I now make money without having to do anything- it's automatically generated revenue which is nice.

For me...year one and two generated hardly any money, but year three has earned me more than quadruple in revenue.I think people have to know and see that you're extablished on the Internet. Writers and bloggers on the Internet are a dime a dozen so you have to stick out and stand out in a crowd of billions- not as easy as it may sound. OK it doesn't even sound easy.

Key Point:I can't stress consistency enough- you must write regularly and answer comments regualrly as well. Time also translates into work- it takes time and work.

#1 Pimp Yourself

I once told someone I do social media marketing for businesses and they said 'so basically you pimp business and people online'...well, yes. You've got to market yourself and the best way i found to do this is be you...there is nothing more unique than you. I'm authentic on hubpages and my other Internet ventures.

I see people starting on Hubpages and they try copying the type of stuff other hubbers are doing or trying to be like someone else. It doesn't work. And on that note, you've got to do some extra leg work to get your work out there. Utilize other sites and social media. Pimp yourself and your hubs.

Followers Don't Matter

It's harsh but true...and I love my HubPages buddies. I don't take them for granted at all (they give me inspiration), but here's the truth...The hubbers that follow you are a very small portion of your audience and really don't make a dent in your revenue regarding the money you make off page views and clicks through Google AdSense.

The Goodfella Goodfollows: The benefit of attaining more followers is it gives you a start and a challenge. Later when you have a significant amount of followers, you don't have to spend time seeking or searching out people on HubPages to follow. People seek you when you have an impressive amount of followers. But still, followers don't have much of an impact on your HubPages earnings.

Key Point: The readers/ audience that actually makes you money is the Internet audience running searches on Google and other search engines- your regular readers/ hubbers on HubPages do not make you the money. I love you guys but I'm being honest (this is the truth about making money on HubPages).

Content, Charisma, and Craft

Content is king! I heard this advice when I was first starting out online writing. You want to write content-rich blogs or hubs. This means a topic or subject that gets searched often and if you write it well or relatable, they will come. My secret is relating to others, and being a little controversial. I take pride in saying what others are thinking but don't necessarily talk about. I started out writing a few hubs on topics I thought only I was dealing with and it turns out those are my most popular hubs. Hence relating to others became my niche.

Online writing tutorials will suggest you find your "niche" and to most people that means finding one topic to write about a lot or your areas of expertise. I don't think you necessarily have to do that. Like I said before, I write about what people are thinking or what troubles them or the best thing no matter what you write about is make it a conversation. I've also written several hubs on topics I don't know much about just to get some information from others and start a conversation among readers. I've also written hubs on topics I know a ton about, but those often go flat among readers because there isn't much for them to add or comment on.

Here's the deal, you don't have to write really well. I was attacked on one of my hubs for making several grammatical errors. I'm no dumb numb nuts, I know I make errors but I don't have to be over-concerned about that when I write about an interesting topic. I don't have a lot of time (between staying at home with two small kids and a part-time job) so I'd rather focus on an idea instead of perfect grammar.

Having said all that...there are many hubbers on here that write really well. They can write the paint off a new house. For example, "Shadesbreath" and "Christoph Reilly" are awesome writers- they write about normally boring topics that would make watching paint dry exciting, but they make them interesting as hell. Then there are hubbers like me who write on interesting topics, but not my best writing I've ever done. Your other choice is being extremely knowledgeable and writing about your expertise, sharing it for others to gain something from.

Key Point: Start a conversation and make a connection with people. There's a few tactics to be good on here; be relatable or very knowledgeable or a great writer orall three if you are an over-achiever like "drbj".

It's not where you begin, but why you begin

Making money on HubPages or online is best started as a hobby or part-time gig. Do not start for the sake of making will quit out of frustration and you will be deeply diasppointed. I said before that I sarted HubPages as a hobby and probably the only reason I have stayed for three years, and long enough to see an income from it. I do it for me and my followers (yes, followers may not make you money but they keep you going long enough to make money).

You want to see a graveyard of blogs written by people who thought they would get rich quick? Just visit Google blogs or most of the blogs created in cyberspace...usually end after a few months...and you never hear from them again.

If you begin for a hobby, it can help you find your niche- this worked for me and can work for you if you don't know exactly what your niche may be or you've tried something and it hasn't worked.

Key Point: Initially writing for the fun of it can definitely turn into something profitable and help you find your voice, your niche, and your audience. Once you've found all that, get down to business and write. Don't forget to market yourself a lot too.

No magic equation

If you do this, you get that. Nope, doesn't work this way. There is no way to tell if one person will make money versus another person or why some make more than others. All I know is if you quit, you won't make it.

I've seen certain topics do better than others and that is: How To's, Relationships, Sex, and Religion. In the meantime Politics, Current Events, and Fictional Stories do the worst- they are short-lived and may spike in views for a short time then fade quickly. The only way to see how you are doing is by using Google tools.

Concerning topics, people get too focused on page views and clicks, but you need to also know that Google pays various amounts for different topics. Someone may say they have impressive page view numbers, but that doesn't mean they are getting paid the big bucks.


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      gyanendra mocktan 5 months ago

      Thank you for the realistic view on making money online and especially Hubpages. Thank you again.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      Amber~ I strongly encourage you to keep n doing what you're doing...of course always doing better and improving where you can. That's also part of the fun too. Hubpages is a great avenue for feedback and practice writing skills which is also valuable.

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      Amber522 5 years ago

      This is a great hub. I am now very curious to know which topics Google pays more for. I will have to do some research.

      I have been here for nearly 8 months and have seen my earnings go up quite steadily. I do not make nearly enough to quit my day job, but watching my progress has been part of the fun. I hope I can make it to 3 years here and be proud of my accomplishments! Voted up and sharing :)

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      molometer~ i think there are a couple of types of people on HP and that's ones who just want to write and those that really aim to make money and then types like me who was a combo. I really started focusing on SEO and the money side of it when I had less time to write- like this last year. I think thats what it takes - is focusing on making money at it.

      And yes you are so right about the comment section.

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      molometer 5 years ago from United Kingdom

      Interesting and honest hub on your experiences writing online.

      To have written 153 hubs over three years and only get 10,0oo+ views per month, makes me wonder if you have missed something somewhere. I do write hubs on 'how to get more traffic'.

      While I do agree with many of your points I have to be honest.

      I have been working with computers since before the internet was public. So I do have experience on my side.

      I made money after only 3 months on hubpages. Nothing to set the world on fire, but it is rising steadily as my hubs mature and as you mentioned they get picked up by the search engines. This can be accelerated with a little know how. Which you probably know already.

      I enjoy the whole process, so for me answering comments is part of the experience.

      The comments sections are much more important than many people know. I have written a hub on the very subject.

      Thanks for your honest appraisal and keep plugging away.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      Glenn Stok~ Yes I agree with the spike. That occurred for me too and thought it would level out but it went through some ups and downs for several months. Now it is fairly level for several months, but it's certainly not a dependable income.

      And yes I also agree with the interaction and community on hubpages is what kept me going...and the love of writing and sharing info.

      THank you for stopping by.

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      Glenn Stok 5 years ago from Long Island, NY

      The most honest and complete hub on the subject that I have found. Excellent work.

      I didn't get a single penny for an entire year, but I hung in there knowing it would take time. Even throughout the second year the income was negligible but I was enjoying the writing and interacting with other Hubbers, and that kept me going.

      It wasn't until 18 months or so that I noticed a spike. And even that has difficulty staying up there now because of the algorithm changes that Google keeps making. But I have always enjoyed the writing and the interacting with my readers. And that will keep me going until, maybe someday, the money will become more realistic.

      The bottom-line is something that you made clear in your hub. The content we create and the time we spend interacting, together are the two things that will ultimately lead us to success.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      JY3502~ yes very true about style and the person themself (marketing yourself) has a lot to do with it. Every topic has been written about a million times but adding something new or a new persepctive is great. THanks for stopping by.

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      John Young 5 years ago from Florence, South Carolina

      You make some very good points. I have been doing this for 2 years, and have only recently began making anything decent like you said. I agree, subject matter is very important, but not everything. Like those you pointed out, style has much to do with your success.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      girltalksshop~ the great thing about hubapges is the community of hubbers who can inspire and critique you. Also its great practice for your writing. i know people on here who do this, but it ended up leading to other ventures. Any way you decide to approach it, it can be very rewarding. Thanks for the comment

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      Thanks dubuquedogtrainer!

      Drspaniel~ Many hubs out there supply you with tons of info and its almost an overload..and most assume you have a certain amount of knowledge about this stuff already. THese hubs were always too confusing for me and even when I figured out the tactics these people didn't work for me. I think many people will find what works for them. There are certain things that are universally helpful for all, such as Google tools. Read about marketing yourself online...thats helpful but also an individual venture to find what works for you.

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      girltalksshop 5 years ago

      I liked your perspective of making money on-line. I like to write poems and stories, not what some might call interesting topics. At least I don't see any of them being listed as 'hub of the day'. I know if one isn't computer savy or knowledgeable on where to start it would seem overwhelming to take on such a task and depend on it for an income. It is good there are those who know how to successfully do I am not one who has such confidence in trying it. I admire those who can make a go of it. Found your hub helpful and interesting. Voted it up! ; )

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      Amy B~ I just wrote you a long comment back but accidentally erased it. So long story short. You have a great point about hubpages also being an avenue for recognition from other sources. I got offered to go on The Dr. Oz show but had to turn it down because with the timing I had just got home from hospital with the baby- bum deal but I know there will be other opportunities. Congrats on your recognition with the magazines. Your stuff has some serious depth to it and I think we share that in the way that we share things that many people have a hard tome communicating or talking about but many go through it too.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      J.S Mathews~ thanks for a great comment...and compliments. Time and Google tools are the biggest factor for making money here...or perhaps anywhere on the Internet.

      Cyndi10~ The time factor definitely has to do with everyone's personal learning curve- it just seemed that all the "how to make money' hubs were by people who alread yhad a start on the Internet...and they should have stated such in their hubs so people like you and I didn't get discouraged. Thanks for stopping by.

      CZCZCZ~ I guess my main point here is don't give up- someone like me who had no experience can actually make money.

      Docmo~ there is irony to the whole Internet thing. It's a quick instant source for many of us, yet getting established on it takes time. I've been working for a couple of small businesses and doing the social media and online marketing and the average time for increased customers and revenue for them is about a year. Thanks for your comment.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      Thanks Barbergirl~ Glad you appreciated the honest approach. I wish I had read something like this when I started just to know I wasn't a total loser.

      Fiddleman~ hang in there. If you love writing...that I agree is always a great payoff. There is nothing like the hubpages community for that.

      CClitgirl~ I think hubpages is a great place to find out who you are as writer...and eventually earn some money or even recognition.

      Ruchira~ thanks for the votes and positive comment.

      ithabise~ you're welcome and thank YOU.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      LauraGT~ yes...speaking only about Google the followers don't matter, but they are truly my inspiration. I'd read something to write comments back and forth from other hubbers and it would never cease to give me an idea about something to write.

      But I know new hubbers who join and follow everyone they can thinking that will give them monetary gain. So people should follow only if they want and not just for money or popularity gain. THanks for stopping by.

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      Amy Becherer 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

      Thanks izettl. Congratulations on your new baby and Happy Mother's Day. I started out writing articles and was inspired to "try" poetry and fell in love with the language. I am still going to practice the art here as the feedback is a priceless source of encouragement, inspiration and support. When I've created a boatload, I'll try self-publishing a complilation. I've had a letter published in 2011 Nov Vogue and was recently surprised while reading Elle. I started reading a letter and thought to myself, wow, that sounds like something I'd write, checked by byline and saw it was! The piece had a picture and title and took up 1/3 of a page. It had all the glitz of an article! No pay, but a big kick. Everytime I have something published or another letter read on-air on PBS Donnybrook in STL, it reinforces my determination and self-confidence about the possibilities. Money or not, hubpages has opened my eyes and my world. I would find it impossible to hang a price tag on something with that much value.

      Thank you for your ideas. Everything you write gives me fodder for thought. And, that is meant as another well earned compliment for a supremely talented, interesting writer.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      Kacper Z~ all I can say is hang in there and you'll get there.

      PBody~ I read all the hub advice hubs and got more discouraged than help. I see those hubs working well for people who are already Internet savvy- I was new to hubpages AND social media marketing, Google Adsense so those hubs by the more experienced seem to be written for the more experienced and the more experfienced wouldn't need those hubs so my opinion was they were a waste of my time. If someone wrote something half truthful I would have enjoyed taht more...hence why I wrote this. I don't need a hub about Google AdSense...they give a good tutorial when you sign up. But I get your point. Information is valuable in some way. For me the people that did the best wrote from an experienced point of view instead of a beginner...and here I've written as a beginner.

      drbj~ you are always welcome. I mean it like I say it. Always enjoy your hubs.

      Scotts Jimmy~ thanks and yes I started as a beginner as many people do on here and I stuck it out...glad I did. Thanks for stopping by.

      content4life~ you're not alone (smile). I did too when I first started on here. Seemed like everyone had struck it rich excpet me.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      Amy B~ did you get that money I paid you to write those awesome compliments in your comment? Just kidding, but thank you. Wow~ That is very got me in a nutshell and I think that brings me to the main point that most of us just want to be understood or heard when we write. Thank you (again) for that.

      Poetry is another one on here that doesn't do well and to be honest I didn't put it on the list here because I don't ever want to discourage hubpages' poets. Love the poetry, but it is not an easy or sought after genre on Google or the Internet in general. Too damn bad if you ask me cause I read the poetry on here. I can't say that I have suggestions for it, but to search online avenues and even magazines or portals for publishing...that's the (only perhaps) way of making money from poetry. You could always write something in general (a hub) on a topic similar to what your poem is about and then put your poem within the hub (on a certain topic). That way you're getting searched for that topic and people will also see your poetry while reading the hub.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      Lady E~ yes miss the bookmark. Thanks so much for stopping by...truly honored as you are fantastic hubber!

      LauraD093~ I started this when I was laid off from my job...there's no way I would have been able to juggle this with a job, but it's an excellent hobby.

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      drspaniel 5 years ago from Somewhere, where the sun shines once a year...

      Very interesting as I have recently decided to try and do one of the various content challenges which people talk about on HubPages. One of them obviously being the 30/30 challenge, which I am considering to pursue.

      I do find that the information that you've supplied us all with here is great and to be honest, some of the best and helpful information that I've found in a while. However, that's not to say that I don't have one or two questions which still remain about how to really make money here, but I am sure that with a bit more experience and care with my content I will eventually see myself up there in the 'success stories'.

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      Dubuquedogtrainer 5 years ago from Dubuque, Iowa

      Interesting and useful - voted up!

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      Mohan Kumar 5 years ago from UK

      There is plenty of truth and practical advice in what you have written here. It is engaging, honest and sensible. I agree with you so much on 'time' as the most undervalued commodity around here. One really needs to make value judgement of how the time translates to money. Especially when we have family and other roles/positions to take care as well. voted up/awesome!

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      CZCZCZ 5 years ago from Oregon

      Great points about making money online. I agree it is no easy task and that time and effort is a huge determining factor whether you will find success or not. Enjoyed reading this hub and seeing how you have found success with writing online here on hubpages.

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      Cynthia B Turner 5 years ago from Georgia

      Great article with some really good points that anyone writing should consider. You have also sparked some really good discussions and insights from other hubbers. For example, millionaire tips and rabbit75 have good points about writers coming from other internet experiences and being able to "plug into" making money with hubpages right away. They didn't have the same learning curve as someone like me who has still a lot to learn. I'm glad that you reiterated for us all that it takes time, it's not get rich quick and most of all you have to consistently write. Thanks for being willing to paint a good, realistic picture. Voted up.

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      JS Matthew 5 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

      Everything you said here is so very true! It takes a lot of time, many mistakes, and a lot of learning and patience to make money here. A lot of people come to HubPages thinking they can earn tons of money in a short time. There is so much involved and understanding the need to continue learning is the key to one's success.

      I am now (going on my 3rd year) making a decent amount of money for what I do here and I am getting ready to Fast-Track as I am learning more about search engines and life after Panda. I think the Google Keyword Tool is one of the best tools out there that will help you to get more for your efforts. This is very well written and very good information for all Hubbers. Voted up and shared!


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      Michael S. 5 years ago from Winston-Salem, NC

      Honest and true...thank you.

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      Ruchira 5 years ago from United States

      great piece of advice. i love to write on various topics but will try using the seo tools to frame my title...

      many votes and thanks for an informative hub

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      Cynthia Sageleaf 5 years ago from Western NC

      Oh, I'm going to share this. I've only been here about 5 months, and I've definitely figured out that time and content have to be the two biggest things that a person needs on here. I have discovered I LOVE to write...about lots of things. So I'm a-writin' and I'm a-sharin! :)

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      Fiddleman 5 years ago

      Great hub and I haven't earned very much, not even a first payout but I do have fun writing.

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      Stacy Harris 5 years ago from Hemet, Ca

      I think this is the first honest approach that I have read to the question... making money on Hubpages. Kudos for that. I always hate when I see writers that have been her short months claiming they have the answer. It leaves me frustrated thinking that I haven't done nearly enough. However, it wasn't until I got past that year mark that I even noticed anything... finally... just in the last month... the earnings picked up. Is it good spending money - well - I might be able to treat my family to a nice dinner... but it took awhile. I look forward to see what the next year or more holds for me. And until then - I view it as a hobby... I don't fwant to lose my ambition. Well done - great writing... and sharing this so otehrs see the truth as well!

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      Jim Burns 5 years ago from Bedfordshire, England

      Good to get advice from someone that actually knows what they are talking about, and has the income to show for it. Many thanks!

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      Cruncher~ yep did the waiting tables gig and it is very much instant money so thankfully I didn't go onto hubpages to make money- I finally just happened upon it.

      Kathyrn1000~ I went that route for a while too and I finally put ads on just out of curiosity.

      Graceomalley~ thanks for stopping by. There is always something to be learned from many of thehub aritcles out there but for me personally I was better off sticking with doing it for the fun of it. The irony is that followers on hubpages don't impact earnings much but I definitely wouldn't have been on here this long if it weren't for them. Hubbuddies are great!

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      Rabbit75~ thanks for adding to conversation. So true about being internet and SEO savvy- that took the longest for me to figure out. Also I probably stuck it out longer because I went the slow and steady route and it was a hobby. In the last two years I've actually done some work as social media marketer so I am a lot more Internet savvy.

      Thanks for the follow- been reading your hubs too. Didn't know how much I was into comic movie and book stuff til I started reading your hubs- fun stuff.

      Alloporus~ there is a science to those keywords and traffic. thanks for stopping by.

      hhelen~ I haven't read many of the making oney on hubpages hubs in a long time cause I just got frustrated. Maybe this hub might discourage some but if I had someone giving me this info when I started out I wouldn't have been so discouraged in the beginning. Most hubs tell you how much money they're making and that's not always typical results.

      Millionaire tips~ I agree- I should retract my words about ALL hubs on money making aren't true. I just know enoug hhubbers now that I've been on here a while and none have made those results that some write about. But yes I agree that some bring experience to the table. I still think it takes a while to get established on hubapges even if you have other sites. I see lots of new hubbers start a hub account who have other sites but they don't last long on here which tells me they got discouraged.

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      LauraGT 5 years ago from MA

      Nice hub. Thanks for the tips. Interesting that you point out that # of followers doesn't matter. I guess it depends on what your goal is. I agree that in terms of revenue it's really more about whether google picks up, but the followers do add a fun and supportive dimension!

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      content4life 5 years ago from Mississippi

      Really great hub and up until I read this, I thought I was the only one that had noticed.

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      drbj and sherry 5 years ago from south Florida

      Congratulations, izettle, for telling it like it is regarding making money on Hubpages. Too many folks refuse to invest the time in writing creative, interesting content and then wonder why the money isn't rolling in. Now that's the comment I planned to write after reading most of your hub.

      Then I saw my name near the end with your gracious compliments: 'clever and good writer,' etc., etc. So now I must add my appreciative thank you for noticing! Heh, heh.

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      PBody5205 5 years ago

      Nice post. I however must disagree on the idea of not listening to successful Hubbers who write about how they made money in their first year on HubPages. That's like saying "don't listen to the CEO of a company who saw immediate success from his business and continues to grow with each quarter." Some people here "get it" faster than others and are kind enough to share their experiences to help the rest of the community. The key to making money on HubPages is understanding why its possible to make money, and then putting in the time and effort focusing on the proven strategies (that were proven by other Hubbers).

      Keep up the good work!

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      Kacper Zylka 5 years ago from Warsaw, Poland

      Thanks for a great post. I came to Hubpages specifically to make mone. I don't however expect much for the first few months, my first goal is 3$ a month. Great advice though!

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      Amy Becherer 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

      izettl, Your hub is a brilliant collaborative mix of trial and error, persistence and brains. Thank you for giving readers the "no holds barred" truth. I have noticed the dynamic, diverse topics you choose are eye-catching, timely, extremely interesting, and written in a matter-of-fact, well researched, and appropriately humorous manner. They have great appeal for diversified readers. And, what value does perfect grammar have if no one is interested in reading what you write? Once again, izettl, you have brilliantly managed to put an article together that people will want to read.

      I agree completely with your assessment of the value of followers. Before writing at hubpages, I had no interest in poetry. Now, it is my language of choice. I wonder what you advise on writing poetry at the hub and making $$$. I feel I have gained much from the feedback and critiques I have received, but I don't believe it is the writing format for making money here. I initially began my journey through hubland writing articles and after reading your excellent article, I may focus on strengthening that forte and save poetry, possibly, for a book. Thank you for giving me much to consider.

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      Laura Tykarski 5 years ago from Pittsburgh PA

      Thanks izettl-I really enjoyed this hub. Being a newer participant in the "hub" community it

      has been pretty clear this isn't a pony-show or money making monster but more a vehicle to increase my possible skill level and marketability. I produce my hubs at a pace I am comfortable with and have used other writer's comments and the tutorials here to learn to share my craft in a more modern and professional manner. My motive was not profit so my moving like a snail hasn't been the problem some may have. has been and is experiential for me. It has been worth the time and effort I put into it. Unlike some more prolific writers here I struggle at times to juggle what I would like to produce here with the job I do have that pays the bills. So just like granny used to say nothing ventured...nothing gained, thanks for sharing the real-deal with some blinded by stars or $ signs in their eyes.

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      Elena 5 years ago from London, UK

      Thanks. This is a brilliant share and I can identify with many points you noted. It's a pity we can't bookmark anymore. This is a great Hub to bookmark, particularly for Newbies.

      Best Wishes.

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      graceomalley 5 years ago

      Great hub. I enjoy writing here, and interacting with my Hubbuddies. A hobby is something you like doing so much you will do it even if energy & time are short - work you have to discipline yourself into - not that there can't be some overlap, but you know what i mean. Writing here has helped me be a better writer, and that helps in many areas.

      Interesting that google pays more for some topics - all clicks are not created equal apparently.

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      kathryn1000 5 years ago from London

      Very useful.I decided not to have ads on's enough for me to write them.

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      Cruncher 5 years ago from UK

      I'm new to PH and it's useful to hear exactly how much time and effort it takes to make any money here. Like you say - that shouldn't be your main motivation. Much easier to go and get a job waiting tables.

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      Shasta Matova 5 years ago from USA

      This is great information - and very helpful to get a realistic sense of what to expect.

      I agree with you that most of the time, a new hubber writing about making money on HubPages is not going to get accurate information. But, as others have pointed out, some of them may have brought experience from other websites, or have written many more hubs and learned how to effectively do SEO research, so they may be able to help new hubbers start off on the right track. It is definitely important to consider the credibility and accuracy of all making money articles.

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      hhelen 5 years ago

      Nice post, this is one of the few hubs where one can actually get the truth about making some money. Most of the hubs I've seen over the years spent time on talking about the same thing.

      Thanks again :)

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      alloporus 5 years ago

      Great Hub, nice to see some pragmatism in what can be a lot of hype. Content is king and yet it may just be that even great content with smart keywords has only a small niche. And then we realise that traffic is the real king maker.

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      rabbit75 5 years ago

      I agree 100% with izettl about this whole making money on hubpages or online takes time! It's NOT a get quick rich scheme or something easy.

      It takes time and a lot of work and a lot of frustration! She's absolutely right about how much time you have to dedicate to it. Not just on hubpages, but becoming internet savvy, SEO savvy, and finding out how to rank high on search engines.

      I don't want to blow smoke up anyone's (you know what), but God, just like izettl, I wanted to throw in the towel so many times. No joke! With all of Google's Panda and Penguin updates, this gig is always an uphill battle.

      Btw izettl, getting that many hits per month is nothing to scoff at. That's awesome, and it will surely get better and better. I commend you. It's a rough gig, no doubt. After all, I followed you because you write great hubs with a lot of really great advice and tips.

      Please, please, please, for anyone who is hoping to do this full time...get one of those wrist rests that help to prevent carpal tunnel. I just got one recently because the pain in my wrists was too much to bear.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      noenhulk~ I completely agree, and that is true within the hubpages community- people read what interests them, but in the general audience that is runnign searches on Google, it is important to rank high enough get read by the bigger other words even if you are a great writer, not doing things according to what's best by Google's standards won't earn you any money.

      Thanks for stopping by.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      rabbit75~ you are one of the exceptions- "results may vary" or "reults are not typical". I stuck it out on here to make pretty good money, but I lost the notion of making money on here before I started actually making it. I made that comment about not listening to hubbers who make good money their first year because it was those people and those type hubs that almsot made me quit. I htought how could I not be making that type of money sooner and I beat myself up for something that I've now reached so more hubbers need to know it takes time because for the vast majority of does.

      You are right about marketing yourself online- totally agree on that point! And thanks for vote up and adding your experience.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      Denisemai~ hang in will come. In the mean time hone your writing and enjoy the community of people on here. Much to share and much to learn.

      Jester4554~ what I've heard about fiction is that people want to read their favorite authors' fiction but not unknown people trying out their writing online (so many of those). Also, people will write their stories in several hubs (aprt 1, 2, etc, etc,) and readers just don't have time to read all parts -readers usually invest a short amount of time per hub they read. You have to be really good to capture a following based on fiction stories.

      Kelleyward~ thanks for stopping by. It is totally possible to make money on here. Liek I stated in the hub, it takes time and getting to be online savvy. I wrote this hub to let everyone know they can make money, but for most of us it will take time. Not all of us can invest a lot of time on something that takes more time than worth...initially. Thanks for stopping by.

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      noenhulk 5 years ago

      I must admit it is a very good hub. I just wonder if you really need to have a high profile career to be recognize as a good hubber... hmmmn. As long as you engage your reader into your writing style and interesting topic, you do not need one.

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      cprice75~ get rich quick advice is not much different than get rich quick schemes. I've found there's always an exception, one person who will tell you how they made a fortune. But those people are the "results may vary" or "results aren't typical". Just as rabbit75 stated above- makes good money but has been doing work online in general for a few years now. Good thing I'm good at slow and steady! And I'm glad I stuck it out.

      Jeanine~ THanks so much...if it weren't for people like you to remind me to go to the spa. lol. I will someday- think I'll be scheduling that massage soon though.

      Sooner28~ thanks for stopping by and glad you appreciate the honesty- that's my niche!

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      Jim~ you and only you were the reason I stuck it out on here long enough to see some decent money. You gave me a much needed challenge, inspiration, and a true friendship. I am so glad the housefire project is keeping you busy. I haven't lost sight of it and hoping you come back to hubpages a little more often- if not, dang it, I'll just have to call you up!

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      purnimamoh~ all I can say is it takes time. I stated in the hub followers don't matter concerning money but the way that they do is through the value of community, challenge, and sticking it out until you start happening to maked money one day. THank you for vote up and follow. I wrote this hub cause I was tired of the same old hubs giving sugar-coated advice. If you stick it out you will wake up one day and be surprised at how much money you made- it can happen.

      Eden Young~ Well I pride myself on writing honestly and that's part of what I consider my niche so even though this is sort of a How To, it's also within my style of writing. THank you so much for stopping by and welcome. It takes time for most of us, but the community aspect of hubpages is what drives many of us to stick it out until we see some money. Find your direction ,voice and a niche...and good luck!

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      Lizett 5 years ago from The Great Northwest

      dmop~ rabbit75 has been working online in general for a few years before starting on hubpages and i stated in my hub that if someone has the time and is tech and online savvy, their results may happen much faster and will average better than mine.

      Also I don't talk specifics, but I average well over 10,000 hits per month and I don't make an awesome grand total. But Google pays differing amounts for various topics...another thing to research. THanks for the vote up and stopping by.

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      dmop 5 years ago from Cambridge City, IN

      This is some good information, yet I must agree with rabbit75, there are some that have made money and know how to make money that have only been here a short time. Ten thousand plus hits in five months doesn't seem too bad. I'm just here for fun, but I wouldn't mind making a buck or two while I'm at it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with the rest of us, I gave you a vote up and useful.

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      purnimamoh1982 5 years ago

      Its a great hub. More than the hub itself, your humility, humbleness and courteous approach make your hub a wonderful reading. To be frank, I joined hubpages thinking that its a great catch to earn money. Its almost 7 months now and I think earning money, although a significant need, is not the main thing one may get here. Its only people like you who keep me engaged in reading and enjoying my association with hubpages. Thanks a lot for the insights. voted up and followed.

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      TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

      I never did it for the money. I did it to hone my message as you know, which is a good thing because I ain't gonna be setting the world on fire on the money deal. I WILL say that if I put the time and energy in to something like day trading that I've put into the hub, I'd have made some dough. lol This hub business can be consuming and the least consuming part is writing the damn hub oddly. It's all the interaction thing. I've backed way off for that reason I'm afraid. Too much going on with the Project anyway.

      Good stuff sis. You are and always will be my hub hero.

      ~ jim

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      Eden Young 5 years ago

      Great hub!I came across your hub right after my first sign up here(even before I edit my profile, haha). Your experience does change my mind and show me some direction. You said "I've also written hubs on topics I know a ton about, but those often go flat among readers because there isn't much for them to add or comment on." But I think this time it would be different, this hub will definitely bring you huge traffic! Voted up!

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      kelleyward 5 years ago

      Hubpages is not easy but you can make money here. It is a lot of work but what new venture isn't. Thanks for sharing this hub. Take care, Kelley

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      rabbit75 5 years ago

      Great hub, lots of useful information, but I do HAVE to disagree with one point you mentioned that "don't listen to hubbers about how to make money using hubpages if they've been on hubpages for less than a year."

      I've been on hubpages for about 5 months, and I've already reached past my minimum threshold. My traffic has already skyrocketed past a thousand visitors a day, and I use hubpages less than part time hours if you really added them up.

      However, I've been marketing online for quite some time, and a few months back, I joined hubpages for extra back link juice to my blog. I found I really liked hubpages and stepped up my efforts a tad.

      I agree that keywords are key, not to make a pun or anything, but back links to high PR sites, give you that extra push on search engine rankings.

      The problem that I see with most hubbers, who aren't getting enough traffic or making only cents a day, is that they aren't promoting their hubs and linking other related articles off the hubpages platform ie article directories or even squidoo.

      Yes, you're right. It does take time to start making money online, but it takes even longer if you don't how to properly do keyword research as well as know how to promote your hubs so they're on the front page of search engines and stay there longer.

      I know because when I first started marketing online three years ago, I was in the same boat. It took me a long time to finally start seeing my efforts pay off and that's because I didn't know much and was learning. Yes, I got scammed quite a few times, but I also got info that really helped as well.

      Another problem is I see is that quite a few hubbers don't have a profitable market niche when writing. Now, that's cool if they're writing for pure enjoyment. However, if you're writing to make money, you need to find profitable niches that people are searching for and desire more information about.

      You're right. Hubpages is not easy. There's a lot more to it than just "writing quality hubs" and having "great content" which is the typical generic advice from a lot of how to make money on hubpages hubs. Researching your niche and keywords and promoting your hubs outside of hubpages is work that most either neglect to do, or refuse to do.

      Anyways, nice hub...Voted up and quite interesting!

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      Jester4554 5 years ago from California, United States

      Huh, interesting...what is it about fictional stories that you think/have noticed which causes them to become flops on here?

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      Denise Mai 5 years ago from Idaho

      I've only been doing this for three months but I already see that you've hit the nail on the head. Thanks for setting the record straight. :)

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      Sooner28 5 years ago

      Like cprice said, I appreciate the honesty. Very good hub.

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      Jeanine 5 years ago

      Very nice read... hope you are getting some rest and enjoying life...

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      cprice75 5 years ago from USA

      Thanks for the honesty. Methinks you are correct in your assessment that people who say they made it rich quick writing online. Slow and steady wins the race. Voted up.