Editors Insist on Replacing Series of Photos With Thumbnails

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   eugbugposted 3 years ago

   Then I have to change them back again. Grrr!
   If thumbnails were displayed properly, it would be fine. But they're tiny, the selected image is tiny and can't be zoomed and captions can't be viewed while viewing the image. Overall it results in a bad reader experience.

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      Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      In that case, I would ignored them. I'll just toad 2 or 3 normal pictures to the article. Even one can be enough.

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      bravewarriorposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, it's annoying. The captions appear below the ads that are placed below the string of thumbnails. An uneducated reader wouldn't know to look for that. If HP/Maven insists on placing ads beneath the thumbnails, at least place them below the captions.
      
      Eugene, when you put your photos back the way you intended them to be placed, does that affect the articles' placement on the niche sites where they originally appeared?

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         eugbugposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I don't know, I have never checked. You mean are they removed from being featured as a thumbnailed article in a category? My thumbnails are way down the article so I don't think it should make a difference. It's the first photo that's normally used.

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            bravewarriorposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            No, I was asking if your articles still remain on the niche sites once you change the photos back to the way you originally placed them.

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               eugbugposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Yes they always do. It would be petty if they took them off if they're getting lots of views. I'm constantly reverting changes. I know the editors do a good job normally, correcting punctuation and grammar problems, but they're not always right.

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                  bravewarriorposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  That's good to know, Eugene. I'm usually happy with the minor changes the editors make on my work, but I'll pay closer attention to what they do with my photos. If I want them to be in thumbnail mode, I'll put them that way when I initially post. It's one thing to edit grammar. It's another to edit creative license. That's like trying to change my soul.

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                     eugbugposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     Agreed. I just wish that thumbnail module worked better.

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                        bravewarriorposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        Perhaps it should be brought up to HP as a change we'd like them to implement. So far, they've been pretty good about listening. Some things we can't change, such as the leading videos and the plethora of ads that are interspersed within our copy, but placing ads below the thumbnail captions and allowing a zoom on each one shouldn't be too much to ask. It doesn't reduce the amount of ads, but more strategically places them. HP/Maven happy. Authors happy (happier).

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                           Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           +1

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                           eugbugposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           I have done, but I'm sure they've plenty more higher priority problems to sort out.

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                              bravewarriorposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                              Eugene, when they eliminated comments from our articles, John (Jodah), Linda (Carb Diva) and I went on a rampage and posted articles about our utter dismay. Mine was the first to be posted and garnered over 314 comments before being sent to Discover (which surprised me that it was actually moved off HP). The forums exploded with other authors voicing their disconcertion over the loss of comments. As a result, comments should be restored by the end of this month.
                              
                              My point is, if enough of us speak, we shall be heard.
                              
                              What you're asking should be a minor change to the software's formatting. What we asked was HUGE, but enough of us bitched. As they say, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

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                                 Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                                 I also agree.                                    Let the winning comment button be restore before the end of June 2021.                                                    I believe  SamarthaCubbison don't make a mistake or told a lie to we authors, when she drop the word, and left hubpages to try her hands elsewhere.                                         That being said, we should all stand up as a body of writers and be persistent for the asking. That will make HubPages sit up.                              The buttomline is to let our voices prevail.

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                                 lobobrandonposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                                 The restoration of comments was on their list from the get-go. How long it would take was the issue and not whether they would consider it or not. People speaking up was not the reason, unfortunately. More people spoke up about the huge unrelated video (on multiple occasions), the bad display of ads, etc. But that is not going to change.

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                                    Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                                    Lobo, I think some changes can come along the line as more authors persist in speaking up. That's just my thoughts though.

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                           Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           +++++. A+

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                     Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     That I agree, if it favour my mood.

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                     MizBejabbersposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     You are right about that, BraveWarrior. (your last sentence.) They edited my most featured hub for the second time and except for a word or two that even the first editor missed, I wasn't pleased. I sent them an email congratulating them for taking the personality out of my article and making it read like dull commercial piece. They didn't answer.

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                        Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        Miz, what d'you do when no answer is forthcoming? Did you remind the editor or resort to other means?

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                           MizBejabbersposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           No, I let it go. I figured they'd heard enough from me. One mysterious thing I did notice. I had a sentence in there describing the location of an external double staircase that went from the street down into the front atrium. The first editor didn't like the numerical description I put in the sentence and changed it to please himself (the editor was a man). I changed it back and pointed out that his figures had relocated this staircase from the front of the house to behind the back deck in the backyard. I haven't been able to find this sentence at all in my article now. I don't appreciate it's being removed and not telling me. I may go back to the original on my computer and replace it in the article. This staircase is playing a big role in whether we keep the house or get rid of it.

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                              Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                              Miz, just liking you in placing your pair of leg firmly on the ground.

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                        bravewarriorposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        MizB, I'm not surprised they didn't answer. LOL. Did you change the article back to the way you originally posted?

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                           MizBejabbersposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           No, I didn't. I also noticed that I'm not getting as many hits as I used to. I think my sarcasm attracted readers because I was refuting advertising hype written by writers who had not experienced the reality themselves. People are curious, you know.

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                  Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  +++++. A+. We writers should inform the editors of any change in an article negatively affecting an authors thought.                                  I also agree that certain editors had the best at heart for writers to go forward in editing our stories.                                  Recently, we're discussing an issue here relating to the above, but it's specific a BIO challenge. An editor Tessa,? had to wade into the issue and calm nerves.

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               Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Yes. I've experienced that.

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      NateB11posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I'm going to have to look at my articles where they've made images a thumbnail, I just assumed they would be normal size.
      
      Edit: What I do like about what they've done is that my images are martial arts how-to's and when you click through the pictures it kind of animates them. I'm okay with the size for the most part, it's still viewable, people get the idea.

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         NateB11posted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I'm thinking they tend to put images in thumbnails because of page load speed. Images tend to slow down loading.

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