The scoring system of habpages is either fundamentally flawed or purposely biased in favor of long hubs. You said it hubpages team: the more, the merrier, but I don�t think that this is in your interest, or the interest of hubbers and other people using the website. To make my case, I used two of my most recent hubs.
The End of Capitalism and the Rise of Modern Communism: USSA�The United Soviet States in America (69 words) was published only 5 days ago. It received a total of 278 views with 7 from google.com, 3 from search.yahoo.com, and 1 from facebook.com. The hub has 11 comments, two of which are mine. For these five days, the hub barely moved to a score of 67. And the warning message that this might be flagged is there too.
How to Become a Good U.S. Citizen like Peter Griffin (709 words) is a hub I published yesterday. The hub had 50 visitors less than the communist hub in its first day! All views came from hubpages except one from my facebook account. And this hub�received a score of 82 as of now. A score of 82 in less than 24 hours�with no traffic, comments, or any special interest shown in the hub.
Consider a score of 67 in 5 days with a lot of outside and inside traffic and comments vs. 82 in less than 24 hours with no traffic and comments. Why punish hot stuff? Let me give you another example not from hobpages.
Boingboing.net is one of the highest-ranked blogs on the web. Look at their posts and tell me what you see�do you see loooong posts with a bunch of videos and pictures inside?
If you keep rewarding length more than what is actually read, you might end up with servers full of crap that no-one reads.
I've noticed a few inconsistencies in the way my hubs are scored. And I'm not clear on what the Hub scores do for the site anyway. My all time most popular hub received a very low score while other similar hubs which are much less popular received higher scores.
Hub Scores are not that important, I wouldn't worry too much. 69 words is far too short. You should aim for over 400, anything under will get lower scores from HubPages and from Google.
The score is important because the higher the score of a hub, the more likely it is to be featured as a best hub. A hub with a higher score also boosts the overall score of a hubber --which in turn places the hubber at the featured best authors. And a featured author is more likely to get more visitors for their other hubs and profile--both from within hubpages and search engines.
True, but I think most of my page views come from Google searches, not from HubPages. I do agree that the Hub scores are far from perfect. Another way to score the Hubs would be simply by the number of page views. They would be adjusted upward if the page views increased. That would seem to me to be more objective.
I agree with you. Page views must be #1 criteria when calculating the score of a hub.
Hub score will increase if the number of Tags are below 10 and make sure that these 10 tags are the most popular in hubpages) like entertainment,health,food, finance.etc. that matches your topic) When you search for a keyword in hubpages you can see the tags on right side. The bigger font tags are most used and popular. Use them to get good scores)
Now hub scores are not fully dependent on traffic. It is based on tags and Text count.
Not thinking this through are you?
Guess which type of hubs have the most page views.
Politically time-sensitive personal rants or "Photos of Hot Sexy Indian Chicks in their underwear."?
Guess which hubs will be all over the "hot hubs" section ?
You are right Mark.
I's fine for people to express their ideas and make suggestions, but it is up to the HP team to set the rules. I'm sure they take everything into consideration, but it's their call.
As to me, all I care about is hubscore >50 for the outgoing links to stay "dofollow".
I agree... Most of my hubs hover around the 60s and 70s and most of my traffic comes from Google. That's fine with me.
Hub score fluctuate and I found going back and adding a little bit of content, or changing a few pictures raises the score. However, many of my hubs are in the 60's and 70's too, and so are many other people's hubs I have seen. Just because a hub has a score in the 60's does not mean it is not a good hub.
Me too. All my hubs are 800+ words and most over 1200. And they don't "automatically" get over 80 hubscore - I watch them struggle there slowly with building traffic.
As someone who almost exclusively wries LONG hubs, my hubs seem to do exactly the same as the orignal poster claims - start off at about 50 and go up slowly. If there are any special breaks for long hubs, why aren't I getting them (hey maybe I should complain) - I don't use any devicies (at least none I'm aware of) like using hubpages' list of most favoured tags... quite the reverse, I do my own thing and trust it'll work out. PERSONALLY I wouldn't expect a hub of 69 words to get off the ground, frankly, however incisive and insighful it might be. And if I had time to spare I'd write a 300+ word hub and post it, not spend over 300 words complaining about a 69 word hub... for me it's about focus of effort, and what's the best use of my time. And I LIKE long hubs.
Julie,
A hub can be a page that represents part of a theme of hubs. By the way, the image on the Communism hub took me several hours to create -- as opposed to writing 300 words in 5 minutes to start this threat in the forum.
I fully understand HubPages desire to promote fully detailed original copy. HubPages outlines the factors it considers in scoring a hub under its ""Help" section.
Nevertheless, it is my bellief that a hub is only too short when it fails to include the details necessary to make the hub complete. For most hubs, this would require a minimum of a few hundred words. Some hubs, especially instructional-type hubs or those providing detailed research information, may require far greater length.
On the other hand, hubs are too long when they use more words, and include more detail, than is useful or required.
An example of a hub having few words, but making its point succinctly and not requiring any padding, might be one like this:
"The world will end at noon tomorrow."
What else is there to say (that makes any difference)?
Personally, unless I'm doing research on a particular question, I have little interest in reading long treatises on any subject -- especially when the hub is not well written, is filled with typos and spelling errors and contains little more than "fluff."
I just looked at them both (which probably helps both scores.) The USSR one, which is pretty much just a political cartoon, is too short as an 'article.' It's not saying anything, it's like someone walking up and giving you their opinion real quick. As such, I don't think it will get much search engine traffic, and it's not going to hold anyone there long either.
Your other hub at 88 is a respectable hubscore, not sure if you're wanting it higher or just comparing the two hubs. While I don't, I'm sure enough people will agree with your sentiments on it. Because you took the time to explain your opinion in detail people will stay on it and read it all, maybe even give you a thumbs up which will help. (Btw, you have a typo in the fist paragraph of the Peter Griffin one, "havily" should be "heavily." I miss that stuff too sometimes. Drives me nuts.)
There are many criteria that affect a hub's score, and as long as its above 50 you shouldn't worry. You want your traffic from outside hubpages and not necessarily inside. Length, I believe, is on factor that can affect a score, but that doesn't mean that short hubs can't have higher scores. Don't stress it.
If you're really worried about it, experiment. Try adding more words. They actually recommend a hub to be at least 300 words. Try that and see what happens. Otherwise, leave it be and don't complain... :-)
Remove the warning message " this might be flagged" and see what happens to the score. Every game has it's rules and hubpages is not exceptional.
Shadesbreath - thanks for telling about the typo.
Guys I'm just saying - if something has more page views, it probably deserves more attention and should be ranked higher so that more people can see it. That's it.
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