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Writing for HubPages: 5 Reasons Why Your Hub is Idle

Updated on June 30, 2014

Idle Hubs are the Devil's Workshop

Are you writing for HubPages and frustrated with the status of your Hubs?

It seems that every time I open HubPages, there is an angry Hubber or two ranting over Idle Hubs. They send pleas out into the Hub ether, demanding to know why their article is no longer Featured.

Now I'm no expert on writing for HubPages. I have been writing online using a variety of outlets since 2011, so my experience is limited. However, every time I take a gander at the work posted by said ranters, the reasons why they don't see that little black circle seem sort of obvious.

As of this writing, all of my Hubs are Featured. As you may have already determined, I'm not an amazing writer whose words exude magic fairy dust into the eyes of my readers.

I don't work for HP. I don't know--or assume to know--what's going on "behind the scenes".

But I do research my interests, and writing is on that list. I truly believe that if you want to be successful at writing (or anything, for that matter), you'd better take time to study your craft.

Otherwise, your chances of success are about as good as winning the lottery.

I'm not saying that my Hubs never go Idle. I had a couple that went to Idle status last week.

I took the time to make some tweaks and adjustments, and they went back to Featured within 24 hours.

So the next time you see that blank space after your Hub's title, please take a look at the following list of possible reasons for going Idle.

This is far more beneficial than deciding that:

  • Big Brother Hubber doesn't like you,
  • HubPages staff withholds a Featured status for no reason,
  • Your Idle hubs are a guaranteed failure,
  • There's very little you can do about Idle Hubs.

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" . . . Hubs [that] may be initially Featured may return to a normal state if lower quality ratings come in or if the Hub experiences low levels of reader engagement over time."

So keep tweeting, sharing, and updating your Hubs for more exposure and impact.

(#1) Your Hub Doesn't Attract Readers' Attention

"The Quality Assessment Process incorporates several factors, including . . . analysis of the how engaged readers are with a Hub over an extended period of time." -HubPages Learning Center

Successful writers everywhere have something to say that serves the wants and needs of their readership. Are you helping to solve a problem? Do you have something funny to say? Are you breaking down a complex issue that you understand well, making it easier for others to understand?

This is a crucial element of online writing, which includes writing for HubPages.

Or anywhere, for that matter.

This may be subjective: I might find a subject important and fascinating, and you might think it's a yawner (or vice versa). But if you truly find your Hub to be something of value, others will, too.

If you're just spinning information that has been repeated over and over and over until we look at your title and think, "Ugh. That's been done to death," you can bet that you've earned your Idle status.

And speaking of titles, I love this free ebook/report thingy from Copyblogger (an excellent site for online writing tips) called Headline Hacks. I printed it out and refer to it often.

So if your headline isn't working, try another one. You're not married to it. You can change it as often as you wish.

Your Hub is never going to gain its full potential as long as the headline doesn't grab your intended audience's attention.

Other than a cool headline, a great way to capture your audience's attention is to produce content that makes people want to share it using one of the major social media outlets.

If you're a writer in the year 2013 or beyond, you need to be involved in social media. Online social interaction is a crucial way of showing Google that you have credibility.

Even if your work is amazing, we internet users are constantly bombarded with messages. Many distractions keep your articles buried under a ginormous pile of LOOK AT MEs.

Join Facebook, Pinterest, and Twitter. Get in the habit of sharing your work with your friends and followers.

Don't forget to share other cool stuff you see online as well. Share information that others will find interesting and/or helpful, and they'll look forward to your posts.

As they retweet, share, and pin, you not only expand your readership and create high-quality backlinks. You also gain more followers who will see the work you share (i.e., your Hubs).

Unless you have some level of celebrity status, this doesn't happen overnight. Eat that elephant one bite at a time, and before you know it you'll see progress.

What a gross analogy. Sorry about that.

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Constructive Criticism

Remember that any time you spend on the forums ranting about the injustices you face as a writer, you're taking time away from studying, brainstorming, and writing.

This isn't to say that you shouldn't use the forums; they're a great way for us to provide support and encouragement to one another. But if you go on there just to spew venom, troll other Hubbers, or generally spread negative energy all over the place, take a moment to think about other things you could be doing with your time to help yourself.

Even if that means writing somewhere else--move forward and leave the negativity behind.

(#2) You're Not Writing for an Online Audience

I think this one is especially difficult for those of us who didn't grow up doing most of our reading online. We spent years of our lives writing term papers and essays using specific guidelines.

Guidelines that go against everything that works for online audiences.

My first online writing experience was with Suite101. I wrote less than 30 articles for them for about a month or so.

I didn't know anything about search engine optimization or writing for an online audience. Those articles are so lame--they read like something I had to turn in to my English teacher.

But a couple of months ago I received my first PayPal deposit for 13 bucks from those lousy articles on that troubled network.

The next month I got another $10, then this month another $10. Please don't hear me telling you to go to Suite101. The message here is that there's truth to what they say about waiting for your articles to make money.

That was a bit of a bunny trail.


Writing for an online audience takes practice for many of us. See how I break my text up into small chunks? Notice the different types of text, bold and italicized? This helps readers to skim over the article to find the information that they need.

Reading information on your computer is nothing like reading from a book, so don't treat it that way. Man of the articles written by those who complain about their Idle status contain large blocks of text. Nothing that stands out or helps readers to find the main points.

I don't have all day to read everything that I'd like to on the internet, and neither do you. Keep it simple and the Google gods will grant you favor. That's what it's all about if you're writing for HubPages and you want your Hubs to stay featured.

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(#3) Your Sentence Structure Stinks

"If you believe a particular Hub of yours deserves to be Featured, edit it to check for typos and grammar mistakes . . . " -HubPages Learning Center

There are many who blame ESL writers for poor sentence structure and substandard writing, but terrible sentences exist in all of us.

I'm not talking about perfect grammar--online perfection is about as useful as good penmanship these days.

But if I have to read a sentence several times to figure out what the H-E-double-hockeysticks you're talking about, you can bet I'm taking my eyes elsewhere. And fast.

Again, we don't have time to spend all day reading your Hub, just like you don't have all day to read others' Hubs. Make it easier for everyone and study proper sentence structure.

Put the action at the beginning. Get to the point. Keep commas to a minimum. Stuff like that.

The Yahoo Style Guide (as mentioned above) also helps with this issue. They give you examples that demonstrate the difference between an internet-optimized sentence and one that will make readers click away in a flash.

How to Keep Your Hub Featured

What to do before you hit "Publish"
What to do when your Hub goes Idle
Read the Hub out loud to check for awkward sentences
Have another capable person proofread your Hub
Double-check spelling
Add new links to provide more value for your readers
Separate large chunks of text for easy reading
Add new media: video, more photos, tables, etc.
Embolden text for easy skimming
Share on social media sites (Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest)

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Photos Help to Build a Featured Hub


Creative Commons Photos on Flickr

Flickr is a great place to find free photos.

Go to the advanced search area, type in what you're looking for in the top field, then check the two checkboxes at the bottom of the page that say you want only Creative Commons photos and you want to use them commercially (see the photo below).

When you find a photo you would like to use,

  • download a large copy of it.
  • Upload it into a photo capsule in your Hub.
  • Copy the url where you found the photo and paste it in the url field of the photo capsule.
  • Add the username of the person who took the photo to give them proper attribution.
  • Include the license information.

(#4) Your Hub Isn't Optimized

Search Engine Optimization (SEO) supports all of the aspects of what makes a Hub Feature-able.

SEO helps search engines find your article. It guides searchers to the most accurate and useful information. Algorithms are always updating, which is a good thing. We're all searching for information, and we've all experienced the frustration of irrelevant links.

If you want to make it easier for Google (and other search engines) to notice your work as high quality, make an effort to use basic SEO techniques.

I'm certainly no SEO expert. I do try to keep up with the basics, like:

  • Using keyword phrases (in the title, url, first paragraph, end, headings, bold, italicized),
  • Including relevant links to high-quality, authority sites (like WebMD or a .gov website),
  • Linking back to your Hub from other articles and/or Hubs (example: write a related article on Squidoo or on your blog, then link back to your Hub),
  • Using the correct anchor text,
  • Labeling your original photos with keywords when you can,
  • Link-building using social media sharing.

Use Flickr to Build Links

Another good way to build links is to put your original photos on Flickr. You can sign up for a free membership, then

  • Name your photos with keywords before you upload them
  • When you use your original photo, copy the url where your photo is located on Flickr, then paste it in the url section of the Hub's photo capsule. Now you have a quality outbound link.
  • Name yourself as the source in the photo capsule.

Then you can link your photo on Flickr to your Hub. This creates a quality inbound link.

It also shows Google that you're not stealing someone else's stuff, adding credibility to your work.

If you write poetry, short stories, memoir, or other genre where you may not use keyword phrases, you might find that it's more challenging to get your Hub Featured.

This doesn't mean you shouldn't continue writing what you love. But you should also consider starting a blog and writing an ebook to boost your online presence.

And like the HubPages LearningCenter says,

"A Hub does not have to be Featured to be successful. All Hubs are still available through their URLs, via internal HubPages search, and in the Feeds of your Followers.

"All Hubs can also be shared via social media and email with friends and family, and should you choose, you may also display all of your Hubs on your Profile (by changing your settings under My Account > Profile > Edit Profile), or inserting certain Hubs into your Profile’s 'In the Spotlight' Hubs carousel, though we recommend only displaying your best, most successful work."

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Should You Move Idled Hubs to a Different Site?

This option doesn't make much sense unless you want to add content to another site, like your blog.

Even then, why do you want to take an article that needs work and put it somewhere else? Wouldn't it benefit you more to improve upon the work you've already done?

You could try posting your article on Constant Content so that you have the opportunity to make five bucks or so off a usage license (or full rights license if you accept working for content mill wages). An article that needs work isn't likely to draw much money from CC clients.

Articles sold on CC don't help build your online reputation, either. You don't get a link or a byline. Once your work is sold, it's gone for good.

On the other hand, the more quality articles you post on the web with your name on them, the more you gain credibility.

This is true not only for HubPages, but also for other sites like Squidoo or your personal blogs.

Don't think of your Hub as "Featured" or "Idle", a "winner" or "loser". Think of it as a foundation; as you learn and grow more as a writer, you gain the skills that give you the ability to build on that foundation and create something you can be proud of.

(#5) You Haven't Updated Your Hub in a While

So you haven't written for HubPages in a while. You came back to check on your articles and now they're no longer Featured.

And you're surprised?

You don't show up for work. You're not sharing your Hub, keeping your content current, or adding improvements to your already-mediocre article.

Stuff happens.

{Say what you want. I've been called worse.}

The most successful people writing for HubPages do the work. They don't slap something together and wait for the money to pour in.

"If you believe a particular Hub of yours deserves to be Featured, [then] add more media and information, and increase its potential for reader engagement (e.g. make it more alluring, useful, and accessible)."

I don't think I've ever looked at one of my published articles and thought, "This is perfect! There's nothing that needs to be changed or added. No photos, videos . . . no adjustment in keyword phrases. Perfection in Hubbery, I tell you!"

That makes me laugh just thinking about it.

"As Hubs mature, are edited, and are expanded upon, they are reviewed again by the Quality Assessment Process. This means that any Hub may eventually become Featured, and vice versa."

See that?

If you take the time to improve your Hub, you can get your Featured status back. If your Hub was never Featured, you can get it there with a bit of effort.

This happened to me. One day, I regurgitated my emotions into a Hub that wasn't optimized. I didn't intend for this article to be Featured, nor did I care.

But later I realized that with a few small changes, the article could be more effective. And guess what? It was Featured the next day.

So instead of clogging the forum with negative mind-poo, use that time instead to make your Hub awesome. Clean up those big gaps you have between paragraphs. Add photos. Embolden a sentence here and there. Add a few links. Dust the furniture and move it around a bit.

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Don't Miss an Opportunity for Growth

The quotes contained throughout this article are found in the LearningCenter Hub titled Featured Hubs and the Quality Assessment Process.

In the article, HP discusses how they determine whether or not a Hub will be Featured or Idle. It also gives you instructions on what to do if you feel your Hub should be Featured when it isn't.

Writing for HubPages isn't easy, but no one ever said that writing is ever a simple task. Like Hemingway said, "There's nothing to writing. All you do is sit down at a typewriter and bleed". It's a roller coaster ride that isn't for the faint of heart, nor is it for those who refuse to set aside their egos and learn.

© Liz Davis 2013 Writing for HubPages

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    • the rawspirit profile image

      Robert Morgan 

      3 years ago from Hutchinson Island, FL - Myrtle Beach, SC - Scottsdale AZ

      Great article. Being a new writer, I have a lot to learn. Your hub should be required reading for all new Hubbers. Blessings, Bobby. Voted it up!

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      Judy Specht 

      3 years ago from California

      Nice work. Writing evolves as we grow as people. My thinking is when you think your writing is perfect then you have stopped growing. I haven't been writing much for the last year, so I wasn't surprised to see a bunch of idling hubs. I was reading one last night and I thought, "Gee Whiz, why did that hub ever get featured in the first place". It was featured as soon as I added some detail and improved the organization of the hub.

      Keep writing Hubbers it is hard work!

      Going to share on FB.

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      Amelia Griggs 

      4 years ago from U.S.

      Radcliff, this hub is awesome and jam packed with excellent tips. Thanks for sharing! I actually just went through all my hubs and optimized them an now they are featured. I even wrote a hub on what I did to optimize to help others.

      I like your use of Bold. When I use a lot of bold, I usually get an alert that tells me I'm overusing bold. I guess I should just ignore it.

      Thanks again.

    • Radcliff profile imageAUTHOR

      Liz Davis 

      4 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Fiorenza, you really don't have anything to be worried about. Even if they go unfeatured, your hubs will be an easy fix. Usually, you just need to make an adjustment or two and the hub will become featured again. I looked at a couple of your articles, and I can tell you that pulling some of those Amazon ads will help. Over time HP has tightened the guidelines on those ads. But you are a talented writer--which is the most important part--so don't sweat it. Share your articles on the social networks, add a paragraph or two if you can, and stay within the guidelines on your ads and you'll have no trouble at all. Thanks for your comment!

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      4 years ago from UK

      I'm still waiting for my articles to come over from Squidoo and have only written one hub which is featured but I'm worried about it dropping out, and how to get the others featured, so thanks for these tips.

    • Radcliff profile imageAUTHOR

      Liz Davis 

      5 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Thank you for stopping by, Susan!

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      Susan Hambidge 

      5 years ago from Hertfordshire, England

      I learned a bit more about hubbing here. Thank you.

    • Radcliff profile imageAUTHOR

      Liz Davis 

      5 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Thank you, AtomSpace!

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      5 years ago from Southern California

      Very good, and comprehensive hub! Well done.

    • Radcliff profile imageAUTHOR

      Liz Davis 

      5 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Thank you, Mel. Very true--many featured hubs are lame. There is definitely some bias on here, especially toward those who are in the apprentice program. At the time I wrote this hub, there were a lot of people in the forums complaining about the status of their hubs. After taking a glance at their articles, it was easy to see why (generally speaking), so I thought I would address many of the issues. Thanks again for stopping by and sharing your thoughts!

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      Mel Carriere 

      5 years ago from San Diego California

      Very useful info, although I've seen some very poorly written hubs that were featured very highly and a lot of hubs that were basically stolen copy-paste photos of pretty girls from the Internet that had page one status. It still remains a mystery. Thanks for sharing.

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      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Thank you, livingsta!

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      6 years ago from United Kingdom

      This is a very useful and informative hub. A hub for anyone who has issues with their hubs not being featured and for everyone who want to write quality hubs. Thank you for sharing this with us.

      Sharing this !

    • Radcliff profile imageAUTHOR

      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Thank you, travmaj! I'm glad it helped you. Hubs don't go idle as much as they used to when I wrote this, but some general rules of thumb still apply.

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      6 years ago from australia

      Thank you so much for all this - I know I should use the technology more -it remains a mystery to me although I got this far. I shall take your advice one step at a time - (and try to pin down the granddaughter for advice LOL)

      I found this totally absorbing and will refer to it often - Cheers...

    • Radcliff profile imageAUTHOR

      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Thank you, MaximumFatLoss :)

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      Dr Abby Campbell 

      6 years ago from Charlotte, North Carolina

      Excellent hub! Thank you!

    • Radcliff profile imageAUTHOR

      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Thanks, Failuretosuccess! I appreciate the kind words and I'm glad you found it useful.

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      6 years ago from United States

      An awesome Hub and one of the best reads I've had in a while. I just downloaded the Headline Hacks pdf and am off to read it. Thanks for taking the time to put this 'Kick in the pants' together for us! :)

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      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Thanks, Joe! I appreciate your kind words. It's funny, but this was intended to be a quick little Hub to give others a nudge. I ended up writing this big long clunker! You just pick up things here and there, and you don't realize how much you've learned over time. Your writing is very engaging and I'm sure you'll do well wherever you write. We just have to focus on the writing and not worry about the numbers and labels. It's so hard to do! Trust me--I'm talking to myself here, too.

      Anyway, thanks again for your comment. Aloha from the Gulf Coast :)


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      Hawaiian Odysseus 

      6 years ago from Southeast Washington state

      Hi, Liz!

      I want to say up front that I have been one of those passive-aggressive ranters...maybe not so noticeable and vocal about it publicly, but in my head where it matters most anyway. So I value this IN YOUR FACE hub and accept the confrontation as it fits me because I know that your intention is to improve and maintain the quality and integrity of this writers' community. I learned a great deal from reading this hub and am somewhat frazzled by all the wonderful references I can check out...but it's one small baby step at a time, and I really do want to improve my writing and raise the level of my messages' impact on others, so I'm willing to work hard. Thank you for the gifts of your time and diligent research in preparing this powerful hub. I appreciate you, Liz!

      Aloha and blessings from SE Washington state!


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      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Jill, your Hubs are so sharable and useful, I don't believe you ever have to worry if they're Featured or not. And I've never had HOTD, so what do I know? LOL Just make sure you activate them on your profile and keep sharing. Plus also, you probably have Hubs that go Idle during certain times of the year because they're gardening-related. Most people aren't thinking about gardening in January, but come May they're looking for that information and your Hubs will go back to Featured. My pumpkin bread recipe just went Idle this morning--probably because it's seasonal (unlike chocolate cookies or weight loss stuff). Thanks for leaving a comment, Jill, and please keep writing because people like me need your gardening expertise! :D

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      Jill Spencer 

      6 years ago from United States

      Congratulations on having all featured hubs! Wish I could say the same. Even my hubs that have been HOTD have become idle, as have hubs with exclusive titles that I wrote while in the apprenticeship program. I swear they are well-researched hubs, contain either original or properly attributed photos and were written for my niche! I can understand it when my recipe hubs and others outside my niche become idle, I guess, but the others? I don't know. It's a mystery to me, and more than a little irritating--although I've never ranted about it before. (; --Jill

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      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Thank you, Seckin! I appreciate it.

      Casimiro: what if I change that word to "Shit"? Will it work then? It doesn't matter anyway. When my hubs go Idle, as one did this morning, I see it as an opportunity to draw my attention to it and make improvements. If a writer is on here merely to put articles up and wait for them to generate a few nickels, I think they're doomed from the start. If you want to grow, then take advantage of an Idled Hub. Either way, it doesn't matter because Idle Hubs aren't failures: you can share them, include them in your profile, and get quality backlinks to your blog. Thanks again for sharing your views . . . I love a lively discussion!

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      6 years ago

      Radcliff, just try it. Change one word in your title. The hub will be featured in 24 hours.

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      Seckin Esen 

      6 years ago from Ankara, Turkey

      Great hub and very useful ideas. Thank you for sharing your ideas with us, Radcliff. Voted up and useful.

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      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      I know what you mean, Stephanie. I don't like to see that blank spot myself, but I think it's more of the perfectionist in me that any belief that it will cost me any money. My pennies! lol

      Thanks for making the point about how some Hubs are Featured in cycles. This is something that should be considered--some Hubs aren't "evergreen" and will be Idle at certain times of the year.

      Thanks for taking the time to comment, Stephanie.

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      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Thank you for expressing your views, Casimiro. In my opinion, I don't think that it's a given that it will be featured again right away. What if you don't make effective changes? What if you make changes, but they're for the worse?

      And from what I've seen, nothing on HP is a given. I don't see a lot of, "I made such-and-such changes and the Hub is still Idle". I see, "My Hubs are Idle and I'm not happy," along with some insinuations that moderators are sabotaging someone's work.

      And an Idle status doesn't matter that much anyway. I think people get distracted by labels.

      And yes, if you want success, you must be your own marketer wherever you write online.

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      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Oh no, moonlake, I didn't assume you were a mudslinger-supporter. I just wanted to make it clear that I'm not against voicing an opinion as long as it's not bringing the whole team down. Only I went on and on about it, as I tend to do! Sorry about that!

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      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Thanks, DDE. Every little bit helps!

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      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Thanks, btrbell! I appreciate your support. :)

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      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Hey Pops! As always, I'm glad you're in my corner.

      I wrote a comment back to you earlier, but HP went ballistic and it didn't go through. Probably because the moderators hate me and are trying to make my life miserable. LOL

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      Stephanie Bradberry 

      6 years ago from New Jersey

      I admit I hate when my hubs go idle. The issue is that it usually is not just one at a time. It seems ones published around the same time go idle all at once. For example, there are about 4 right now that are idle, and they are all literature-based hubs. They see traffic at the beginning, middle, and maybe end of a traditional semester. It used to bother me a lot. But then I saw a cycle. So now I don't mind letting some of my more obscure literature topics or recipes sit idle for a bit.

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      6 years ago

      "I took the time to make some tweaks and adjustments, and they went back to Featured within 24 hours."

      It's a given that if you just tweak a hub it will be featured again in 24 hours. It passed QAP before, so just a minor edit will do that. The point is that it probably needs much more than that or it will be idle again in 30 days.

      I agree with other commentators that Hubbers need to be responsible for driving traffic to hubs on their own. Relying on HP will not work. So, great suggestions about use of social media, etc.

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      6 years ago from America

      I don't want you to have the opinion that I like some of the stuff that goes on in the forums. I don't mean for someone to complain in a nasty unkind way.

      I have always worked on my idled hubs or removed them if they just aren't getting the traffic.

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      Devika Primić 

      6 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      Good reasons for why Hubs are Idle, sometimes one has to work harder at increasing traffic flow thanks for the helpful tips. Good titles definitely draws more readers

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      Randi Benlulu 

      6 years ago from Mesa, AZ

      Great hub with great ideas but as you can see, it often falls on deaf ears! You have hit the nail on the head and have given sound, practical advice for growing a site! Voted up+ and am sharing! Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 

      6 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Great suggestions Lizzy and you are right on! I hate the whining that goes on with Hubbers. Either play the game or get out and it's that simple. You don't pull any punches with this and you are absolutely correct.

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      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Hi, cloverleaffarm! The system doesn't make much sense to me, either. My point is that (a) the mudslinging is a waste of time--we can choose positive ways to show that we disagree with the system without bringing everyone down, (b) Idle Hubs can still be successful, as long as writers don't sit there and wait for Google to make it a success (which anyone with a blog can tell you doesn't work anyway), and (c) Idle Hubs can be fixed, so just do it. I say: if you're a writer, then write. If you're not, find something else to do with your time. I think it's human nature that we worry about numbers and labels, but they don't predict the success of an article. Thank you for sharing your views!

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      Liz Davis 

      6 years ago from Hudson, FL

      Hi Moonlake! Thank you for sharing your views. You can still activate the article in your profile even if you have an Idled Hub so that it can be viewed. This means *you* have the opportunity to share it and make it successful. This is especially important for Hubbers who write non-fiction or poetry. I agree with you: everyone has an opinion and can speak freely. That's why I mentioned that there's a positive way to state your views. The point is that there's a lot of negativity, blaming, and a touch of slander in many of the forum posts. A significant number of the people who are angry have issues with their Hubs that they aren't fixing. Let's not forget that this site gives you a parking space on the internet that is free of charge. It's not free for the company, though. In other words, it's a give and take operation and you need to look at it that way. Just an added note: being indexed by Google isn't going to make our break you. There is a blog I follow that found its greatest success *after* he was booted by Google. And by the way, you're a great writer! Poor writers can't get over 1,000 followers! I think that if you looked over your Idled Hubs you would find a few things you could fix. I could be wrong, but if I am you should surely go to the link and tell HP why you think a Hub shouldn't be Idle (even if it's not yours). Then let us know how it goes! Ok, I'll stop rambling now. Thanks again for your comment.

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      6 years ago from America

      My hubs might have reason to be idled I'm not a good writer. There are good writers on here that have hubs idled even when they are being viewed, that just does not make sense. I think hubbers have good reason to complain, nothing gets changed if you don't complain and use your voice to let them know what you think of the idled hubs. Enjoyed reading your information on how to make a hub better.

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      Healing Herbalist 

      6 years ago from The Hamlet of Effingham

      The system at Hub Pages doesn't make sense. I have a hub that consistently stays between 95 and 100 in score, yet it is idle. Others with a score of 70 or lower are featured. I gave up trying to figure it out a long time ago.


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