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American Indian Genocide: Fact or Fiction?

Updated on April 28, 2019
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James A. Watkins is an entrepreneur, musician, and a writer with three non-fiction books and hundreds of magazine articles read by millions.

Were the American Indians the Targets of Genocide?

I keep seeing people post on Facebook the slanderous lie that Americans committed ‘Genocide' against the Indians. Genocide has a meaning: "The systematic (step by step, methodical) annihilation, the extermination of a group of people."

Obviously, this never happened. There might be twice as many Indians in America today as there were 400 years ago. Moreover, half the people I know claim to be "part Cherokee," which they could not be had the Indians been ‘annihilated' or ‘exterminated.'

As Dinesh D’Souza writes: "Critics of America allege that a series of crimes define the history of the United States. Let's begin by asking whether the white man was guilty of genocide against the native Indians. As a matter of fact, he was not.

“Great numbers of Indians did perish as a result of their contact with whites, but, for the most part, they died by contracting diseases for which they had not developed immunities. This is a tragedy on a grand scale, but it is not genocide, which implies an intention to wipe out an entire population."

The Accusation

Andrew Gillum ran for Governor of Florida in 2018. He said, “The lands upon which our own offices are situated have been ripped from the hands of their historical inhabitants through the sustained, continued genocide of Native and indigenous peoples.”

It was in the 1970s that American History began to be taught from a radical leftist point of view, a perspective that is decidedly anti-American. Our history is now taught to our children as a catalog of crimes: slavery, genocide, colonialism, imperialism, atrocities, massacres against loving, peaceful people everywhere who just wanted to be our friends.

Professor Ward Churchill teaches that there was a “vast genocide, the most sustained on record” of the Indians and that exterminating them was “the express objective of the U.S. government.”

Professor David Stannard teaches it was “the worst holocaust the world has ever witnessed.”

Professor Lenore Stiffarm teaches, “There can be no more monumental example of sustained genocide anywhere in the annals of human history.”

Author Kirkpatrick Sale claims that the English and the Americans intended to eliminate the red race from the face of the Earth.

What is Genocide?

The Genocide Convention of the United Nations was proclaimed in 1951 and joined by the United States in 1986. It defines genocide as “a series of acts committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group.” The motive must be the annihilation of the group, with “proof of a genocidal plan.”

A legal concept invented in 1951 should not be applied to events in the past, as the accused are long dead and cannot defend themselves, their motives, their deeds, in a court of law, and confront their accusers, to be judged by a jury of their peers. American Law rejects ex post facto laws—charging someone retroactively with a crime that was not a recognized crime when it was committed.

The Geneva Convention stipulates that guilt is personal. Only individuals are to be charged with genocide—not entire nations.

The Smallpox Blanket Hoax

There is no doubt that the Europeans were unknowingly carriers of Smallpox, and perhaps a dozen other diseases for which the Indians had no immunity. That did cause a considerable reduction in their population—accidentally. Maybe 90% of all deaths of Indians after the white man came were from these pathogens.

Ward Churchill fabricated the tale, remarkably retold every day on social media by self-loathing whites, that Americans deliberately infected Indians with Smallpox by giving them blankets they had somehow tainted with the virus on purpose—biological warfare. The University of Michigan studied and thoroughly debunked this hateful hoax. It is worth reading their conclusions so we can put this to bed before we go further:

“Churchill has habitually committed multiple counts of research misconduct—specifically, fabrication and falsification. Churchill fabricated events that never occurred—namely the U.S. Army's alleged distribution of smallpox infested blankets. Churchill falsified sources to support his fabricated version of events, and also concealed evidence in his cited sources that actually disconfirms, rather than substantiates, his allegations of genocide.

“Forgery and fraud violate the most basic foundations on which historians construct their interpretations of the past. An undetected counterfeit undermines not just the historical arguments of the forger, but all subsequent scholarship that relies on the forger's work. Those who invent, alter, remove, or destroy evidence make it difficult for any serious historian ever wholly to trust their work again.”

The Noble Savage Myth

The Noble Savage Myth is just that: a myth. It is a total crock of crap that the Native Americans all lived in peace and harmony with nature before the evil white man came along. That is anti-American propaganda. Life among the Indians was full of strife, curses, suffering, brutality, cruelty, terror, immorality, rape, torture, war, sexual perversion, and death.

There were only a couple million Indians when the white man came, living on 3.8 million square miles of land. Knowing what we do about the movement and migration of peoples—hailed today as their natural right—there is no way they could have held on to that much land, especially since they were living in the Stone Age and had no written language.

Colonial Times

The colonists believed they had no right to any land they did not purchase from Indians. They did not ‘steal the land,’ as our schoolchildren are taught. They very much wanted to live in peace with the Indians and be friends with them.

The first war in America was between the colonists and their Indian friends against the Pequot Indians in 1637. The Pequots intended to commit genocide against the white settlers, who were warned about the plan by other Indians.

The Pequots were famous for devising means to torture men, women and children. They would skin people alive, slowly over three days, cut off fingers and toes, burn with hot embers, and roast their captives alive.

Torture was part of overall Indian culture, and some tribes would enjoy cannibalism. That is why whites became revulsed by them as time went on. They were cruel savages. When the colonists responded to this barbarism the record shows they went out of their way to spare women, children, and the elderly, which negates the genocide theory.

In 1675, King Philip’s War broke out because, in the words of Indian Chief King Philip, “These missionaries are screwing up Indian life. They’re telling us to stop torturing people. They’re telling us not to kill our captives. That’s going to mess up our whole culture.” It ended with King Philip killed by his fellow Indians.

Every 16th white man of military age in America died during this conflict. White women and children were killed or enslaved in large numbers. Over half of all colonial towns were attacked, with 17 of them utterly destroyed. The colonists were held to higher standards. Four of them were found guilty and two executed in 1676 for killing noncombatants.

In 1754, Indians chose the side of the French against the English colonists in the French and Indian War. The English won that conflict, with 2,000 dead. It left a bitter taste in their mouths toward the Indians, who had committed many atrocities, egged on by the French.

The Founding Fathers

During the American War of Independence, the British recruited Indian chief Joseph Brant to massacre as many American civilians as he could and paid him $5 per scalp, a goodly sum in those days. He mostly attacked Quaker villages because they were pacifists that didn't own guns and wouldn't fight back.

The Founding Fathers strove to do the right thing by the Indians. The first federal law George Washington signed, on becoming the President of the United States, said, “You can’t have land unless you bought it from the Indians. You have to be able to show title deed to that.”

The Indians mostly respected the Founding Fathers and met cordially with George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and others.

Indians in America

There is no doubt that many Indians died during forced relocations such as the Trail of Tears. However, the intent of the relocations was not genocide.

During this period two distinct views of Indians developed. In the big cities of the Eastern Seaboard, safely removed from them, a sentimental look took hold, a romantic concept about the disappearing ways of the Noble Savage. However, an entirely different opinion was held by the pioneers on the frontier who actually lived among them, with fear and anger being the most prominent feelings.

The Sioux were pillaging, raping, and murdering whites all over Minnesota. The Cheyenne and Arapaho seemed to find great pleasure in butchering innocent men, women, and children.

The overall relationship between whites and Indians was different out in California after gold was discovered in 1848. Thousands of single young men rushed out there, and it was fairly lawless. The Governor of California issued a warning to settlers in 1859: "Your operations against the Indians must be confined strictly to those who are known to have engaged in killing the stock and destroying the property of our citizens. Women and children, under all circumstances, must be spared." Hardly the stuff of genocide.

After the Civil war, waves of migrants moved west, drawing vicious attacks by Indians on wagon trains, farms, ranches, and hamlets. In 1866, 80 soldiers were ambushed and massacred.

The Cheyenne were attacking people left and right in Kansas. Whites indeed retaliated, but there were never any plans or orders to exterminate the Indians.

The Verdict

America haters have gone as far as to compare the treatment of Indians to the extermination of Jews by the Nazis. However, there is a documented Final Solution that the Nazis had for the Jews. In other words, they wanted to exterminate every last Jew on Earth and had an organized plan to do it and set about doing it.

There was never any such plan by Americans for the Indians. There was never an organized effort to exterminate them.

I am certainly not saying they were not mistreated, but words have meanings. If I eat a Lean Cuisine, somebody could come along and accuse me of gluttony but them saying it does not make it accurate because while gluttony involves eating it also has a meaning beyond mere eating.

Indians fought and murdered and enslaved each other for centuries, and stole each other's land. The Sioux did not originate in the Dakotas.

This whole genocide idea came from Howard Zinn and Ward Churchill, two men who viscerally hate the country that has made them fat and sassy. There was massacre, rape, slaughter, theft, and murder perpetrated by Indians against Whites, too.

The whole thing of Zinn is to glorify the losers in every contest. If he was writing about the World Series, all he would go on about is how poorly treated the losing teams were and how dastardly the winners are.

It was meant to be a reversal of the way history was taught and it was for a reason: To denigrate America to schoolchildren, to make them ashamed to be Americans (or white at least); to make America seem not worth defending, to prepare the way for a New World Order without the Home of the Brave and the Land of the Free. It is propaganda. It makes all of our former heroes into the worst villains of history without any new facts uncovered.

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    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      8 weeks ago from Chicago

      wba108@yahoo.com ~ It always cheers me up to see your name in my new comments notifications. Always a pleasure to hear from you. Your comments here are right on target. The Noble Savage Myth is just that: A myth. Thank you for taking the time to read my article!

      James

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      wba108@yahoo.com 

      2 months ago from upstate, NY

      The Indians in America were culturally diverse, having immigrated themselves from Asia in separate waves. As new waves of Indians came they displaced the former inhabitants of their areas, usually committing terrible acts of cruelty against their foes.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Awdur! I did not know you had missed this one. I am so glad you did finally read it. Thank you. :D

      JJRBJ

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      suzette naples ~ Thank you for taking the time to read my article. I did not get into the Pueblo story as it pertains mostly to the Spaniards but it is an interesting history. From what I have read, the Apache were not very nice to the Pueblo people, either. Man's atrocities to man go all the way back to Cain and Abel. There is something wrong with man. There is something wrong with this world.

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      Awdur 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      I don't know how I missed this! :-/ Great article.... thorough and well written. You never cease to amaze me ;-) I'll need to go over this again to absorb all of the information.

      K

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      suzettenaples 

      3 months ago

      Jim, I live in Taos,NM and I know the history behind the Pueblo Native Americans. It is tragic how they were treated and killed by the white man, both Spanish and American. They were enslaved and killed; feet and hands chopped off; and their culture destroyed, their lands stolen gifting them. I do believe in the “noble indian” I see it everyday.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      Vivian Coblentz ~ Thank you and you are welcome. Yes, if white privilege exists why did Elizabeth Warren pretend to be and Indian?

      Debunking false narratives seems to be my calling lately. I see where they are coming from and it is from a sinister, dark, evil place. Therefore, the light of truth must be shown upon it. For all our sakes. For the sake of Truth.

      Always a pleasure to hear from you.

      James

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      Frances Price ~ Thank you for taking the time to read my article. That is exactly what I am doing, telling the Truth vs. the current anti-American falsehood spread by the likes of Howard Zinn.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      T ~ I suppose human history is full of genocide, as well as a mountain of depraved acts. There is something wrong with Mankind. There is something wrong with this world. Sin.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      Yes, Will Starr, that is precisely what my dictionary says also. Either way, it is not retroactive. It is from 1948 forward.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      LeAnne ~ Thank you for sharing that information. I am surprised that they included, "(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group," as 'genocide.'

      I do not agree with your notion "when this nation was first founded there was a goal of genocide against Native Americans." Can you provide a quote from any one of the 55 Founding Fathers who said so?

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      Thank you WillStarr for sharing your keen insights with us. You hit the nail on its proverbial little head with this: "The question is, 'did the United States government try to eliminate all native Indians (genocide)'? The answer is clearly 'no'."

      As you observed, "Every square inch of habitable Earth has changed hands over the centuries through wars, purchase, or abandonment." I do not hear anyone calling for the Turks to leave Turkey.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      Madalene Tobias ~ I do not know what "Doo Hatíí bíí únn siidah zhoo" means. I tried to translate it with no success. I hope it is not a Voodoo curse.

      Nonetheless, I appreciate you reading my Hub. It is designed to counter the narrative now being taught in America.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      Eddie ~ I have no problem with you expressing your hatred towards me but HubPages does not allow personal attacks such as you made on me. I deny your accusations, categorically.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      Mr. Archer ~ Thank you for reading my work here. I very much enjoyed your splendid comments. As for your question, "Could our nation have treated the American Indian better?" Absolutely. We could have and should have. Just as there are things in every life we could have and should have done better than we did, especially in our treatment of other people.

      I especially love the way you put this section: "We cannot hold them accountable for their actions any more than we can hold Romans accountable for killing early Christians. To them, what they were doing was acceptable. ... The past is the past and we should, we must learn from it not attempt to change it to coincide with our current beliefs. I feel for the American Indian and wish we had done better by them, I truly do."

      Amen.

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      Vivian Coblentz 

      4 months ago

      James,

      I'm so glad you wrote on this topic because I, too, have noticed a spike in the number of radical whack-a-doodles spouting off about Native American genocide. I'm glad you debunked another false narrative! I'm waiting for a radical 2020 candidate to suggest we offer further reparations to Indians now too along with descendants of slaves.

      You are right that with so many Native Americans being alive today, there obviously was no genocide. Elizabeth Warren is evidence of that (insert hysterically laughing emoticon here)!

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      Frances Price 

      4 months ago

      Every native American knows the truth. It's not taught in schools and the government will never admit to the American Holocaust. All wrong done by the United States is never told, well the truth is never told.

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      4 months ago from now on

      By the UN definition I think you could say the native Americans waged genocide against the white man!

      So now "genocide" isn't as much a horrendous act, as a matter of semantics?

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      WillStarr 

      4 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      Let's go with Webster instead of the anti-American UN:

      Genocide:

      the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

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      LeAnne 

      4 months ago

      For many years during the Indian Wars when this nation was first founded there was a goal of genocide against Native Americans. 

      The international legal definition of the crime of genocide is found in Articles II and III of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide, excerpted here: “Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

      (a) Killing members of the group;

      (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

      (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

      (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

      (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

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      WillStarr 

      4 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      The question is, 'did the United States government try to eliminate all native Indians (genocide)'?

      The answer is clearly 'no'.

      Why can't the left discuss anything without resorting to name-calling and angry attacks?

      And again, where is the criticism of all the other North and South American countries that are now populated by other European descendants? Why is it that only the US is singled out for progressive-socialist attacks?

      And what would you have us do? Return to Europe? If so, what about Mexico? Back to Spain? Brazil? Back to Portugal?

      What exactly do you people want us to do? Spit it out.

      Every square inch of habitable Earth has changed hands over the centuries through wars, purchase, or abandonment. Why is only the US being attacked for the same thing all other counties have done?

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      Madalene Tobias 

      4 months ago

      Tell a lie enough times, teach it in school, write books on your version, and soon it becomes true?

      Native people know the truth as it has been told from the very mouths of those that have and continue to suffer.

      Love your little input though .

      Doo Hatíí bíí únn siidah zhoo ✌

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      Mr Archer 

      4 months ago from Missouri

      James, this is a well researched and written article which describes situations and thoughts from days long gone as well as defining what is to be accurately termed "genocide". Well done.

      I agree that the U.S. might not have systematically engaged in conscious genocide against the American Indian; however there was a concerted effort to take what the government wanted from those who actually lived upon the land first using any means at hand including killing and/or driving them from their homes. Yes, there was slavery and brutality among some tribes towards others, normal for the time. Not all tribes were brutes who engaged in this activity; the Five Civilized Tribes for example. When they were driven from their land they understood and practiced a way of life as close to the white man's as possible including owning lands, farming, government, and even having a written language. This did not stop our government from treating them in a manner which today would be seen as heinous. But the ethics of history judges according to the time the act was taken, not a time decades or centuries later. What was done, was done. Wrong today yes; wrong then, questionable at best. But the timing of the Trail of Tears was wrong even then. Those who died did not need to die as they traveled if our government had simply acted in a more humane manner.

      I am most definitely not a person from the Left; hell no! I am most definitely a conservative who is tired of the tremendous split in our nation over trivial things and minor causes. We need to get back on track as a nation and stop fussing and fighting about things which cause more harm to the general population than any good to a small group. If we simply treat one another with honor and care we will be alright.

      Could our nation have treated the American Indian better? Possibly, but I believe something like that was far beyond their scope of both knowledge and understanding at the time. They had no idea on how to proceed other than the manner in which they did. We cannot hold them accountable for their actions any more than we can hold Romans accountable for killing early Christians. To them, what they were doing was acceptable. We can apologize, we can do better today: that is what is within our ability to change. The past is the past and we should, we must learn from it not attempt to change it to coincide with our current beliefs. I feel for the American Indian and wish we had done better by them, I truly do. Who knows where we would be if we had done so? Cultures collide and one will win out when a tactical advantage is held; sadly, this is what occurred. We cannot wish it away no matter how hard we try.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      Lynne Colombe ~ Thank you very much for taking the time to read my article. I always enjoy hearing from a different perspective. However, I take umbrage at your remark, "This is “guilt-ridden” writing. Poppycock. I do not feel the least bit guilty over what somebody did 150 years ago. I would think it insane to do so.

      I appreciate you bringing to my attention, "The government was routinely sterilizing women up into the 1980’s at Indian Health Services." I had not ever heard that before and it appears you are right. That is a shameful thing. That is wrong. It should not have been done.

      Now you follow that up with "So stop with your attempt to denigrate a people." Excuse me? I surely had no intention of denigrating anyone.

      You admonish me to "Read up on international definitions of genocide. Educate yourself and find the truth before you write this type of misleading Eurocentric trash."

      That only makes me wonder if you really read my article before mouthing off because I clearly state in it that my dictionary defines genocide as: "The systematic (step by step, methodical) annihilation, the extermination of a group of people."

      And I point out "The Genocide Convention of the United Nations defines genocide as “a series of acts committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group.” The motive must be the annihilation of the group, with “proof of a genocidal plan.”

      I am sorry you see my article as 'trash.' That really hurts my feelings.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      Will Starr ~ Thank you for your input on both counts. I'm with you.

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      Lynne Colombe 

      4 months ago

      Another rendition of HIS-story. All of the history books in America ignore the true Native experience. This is “guilt-ridden” writing that attempts to wash away the term “genocide” from the Native view of American history. Our history is oral and we have told the truth about our genocide for hundreds of years. I never met my maternal grandmother because she died of a trauma related disease - she was traumatized as a child so deeply by being ripped away from her parents and forced into an Indian Boarding School that it ruined her life before she ever had a chance to live. She died. With her, our language died. My mother was sterilized in the late 1970’s and told if she had more children it would kill her. This was untrue. The government was routinely sterilizing women up into the 1980’s at Indian Health Services. So stop with your attempt to denigrate a people who HAVE and STILL DO feel the effects of genocide. Read up on international definitions of genocide. Educate yourself and find the truth before you write this type of misleading Eurocentric trash.

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      WillStarr 

      4 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      When something like 23 of our states and hundreds of our cities have Indian names, we could hardly be called anti-Indian.

      BTW, as my Indian friends tell me, they hate the PC name of 'native American'and prefer being referred to as either Indian or by their tribal name.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      Ken Burgess ~ I wholeheartedly agree with you: "America has done a lot to civilize the world, and minimize the death toll doing so, all things considered. The world would be a darker place if not for America, capitalism, and our ideals of freedom and liberty."

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      Yes, Will Starr, you are surely right when you say, "Equating America to the USSR, China, and Pol Pot is a fallacy. Yes, there are always atrocities, but the total Indian deaths at Wounded Knee, the worst Indian massacre in US history, was 146. The communists murdered millions."

      I see this also when some people equate the Salem Witch Trials, which killed 19, with some massacre that killed millions. False equivalency runs rampant among the Left. It is one of their many pathologies.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      Ken Burgess ~ Thank you for taking the time to read my article. I appreciate your thoughtful and insightful remarks. The record of Man is pretty bleak. The way the Left singles out America for hatred is wrong. But with intent.

      All leftist revolutionaries have followed in the footsteps of the French Revolution, with their Atheism, mob violence, concentration camps, re-education programs, and killing fields. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Kim Il Sung, Pol Pot, and Fidel Castro were all monstrous psychopaths, and the American Left exuberantly endorsed all.

      The New York Times glorified Chairman Mao as he systematically murdered 78 million people, and celebrated the Ayatollah Khomeini’s takeover of Iran as a “model of humane governance.” The Los Angeles Times thought America should emulate the socialist slavery that is North Korea. The Washington Post backed the Khmer Rouge, who killed a quarter of the population of Cambodia. Years after those ‘killing fields,’ famous leftist Noam Chomsky still glorified Pol Pot for his “constructive achievements.” No matter how many people leftists slaughter, they continue to believe in godless totalitarianism. They are OK with mass killing because they dehumanize any who disagree with their plots. The most bloodthirsty people on Earth are those claiming to be righting past wrongs.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      Will Starr ~ Thank you for the visit. You make several excellent points. When they change Columbus Day to Indigenous People's Day I wonder if they will celebrate the Aztecs?

      The Aztecs not only owned five million slaves, whom they treated with utter cruelty, they also had a little festival in which they cut the beating hearts out of 80,000 human beings in four days. Their butchers worked in shifts, four at a time, round the clock, on convex killing tables, so efficiently that they could kill fourteen victims a minute.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 months ago from Chicago

      T ~ Oh, you are too kind. Thank you for your gracious compliments. You are right that the Left specializes in denigration. And I might add, desecration is also one of their favorite activities, along with blasphemy.

      It's easy to get angry when people blaspheme or commit sacrilege on social media. It's easy to get mad when people promote evil behavior or evil political ideologies.

      I have to remember the words of CHARLES DICKENS written to his children about such people: "If they are bad, think that they would have been better, if they had had kind friends, and good homes, and had been better taught. So, always try to make them better by kind persuading words; and always try to teach them and relieve them if you can. And always pity them yourselves, and think as well of them as you can."

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      WillStarr 

      4 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      I stand corrected, Ken.

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      Ken Burgess 

      4 months ago from Florida

      @Willstarr

      You misconstrued my meaning. I was attempting to show that what we did to expand America, was nothing horrible or unusual for those times, or those situations.

      And then I was using as example, how truly atrocious and merciless other countries have been, in the modern world, post WWII.

      America has done a lot to civilize the world, and minimize the death toll doing so, all things considered. The world would be a darker place if not for America, capitalism, and our ideals of freedom and liberty.

      Anyone who thinks otherwise should do some real research on the history of China, Russia, and just about anywhere else... outside of a handful of European countries that were/are afforded the protection of the USA, there is no safer, richer, or freer nation to live in.

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      WillStarr 

      4 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      Equating America to the USSR, China, and Pol Pot is a fallacy. Yes, there are always atrocities, but the total Indian deaths at Wounded Knee, the worst Indian massacre in US history, was 146. The communists murdered millions.

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      Ken Burgess 

      4 months ago from Florida

      America pursued its 'Manifest Destiny' that included wars against Native Americans, against Mexico and Spain as well.

      For those times, America was as ruthless as any other nation. There is no country that I know of, that did not commit atrocities during times of war, and even after with POWs.

      Stalin killed about 3.3 million people in various forms of political violence. Another 5.5 million were killed by famine, and millions more in various efforts to build dams, railroads, mines, etc.

      Pol Pot killed at least 1.5 million of his own people in the infamous Killing Fields.

      The Chinese Communist Revolution caused anywhere from 30 to 60 million deaths, depending on what sources and types of death you include (starvation, violence, both?).

      And these atrocities were all committed POST WWII.

      What went on in the 1800s and earlier is no different than what went on everywhere in the world.

      A culture and belief was either spreading and dominating, or they were been trampled upon by those that were.

      Only in the past seventy years have we seen something slightly different, and less violent... but who knows how long this can last.

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      WillStarr 

      4 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      Ward Churchill is a thoroughly discredited, anti-American liar who attacked the victims of 9/11 as "little Eichmanns".

      I find it interesting that while the two continents of North and South America, with all their different nations, are now populated largely by European immigrants, only America is attacked.

      What about Mexico? What about South America? Where are the Aztecs? Where are the Incas?

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      4 months ago from now on

      James!

      Waiting for your next article is better than bingewatching my favorite TV series!

      This is excellent, and what theme do we see throughout liberalism? Denigration! That’s the whole basis of the left’s ideology, to denigrate the messenger, denigrate the country, denigrate the founders, the constitution, Christianity, gender, you name it, denigration is all they’ve got to forge a way around the truth.

      I am so looking forward to the next epidode of James A Watkins! :-)

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