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Canadian Manifesto: How I Love to Hate You

Updated on January 16, 2018

I saw an article on the most typical face on the planet with the population of seven billion people. It turned out to be Han the Chinese man. Nothing too extraordinary, especially given the fact or rather estimation that by 2030, that man would miraculously transform into an Indian.

A man is locked in a dark room - his mind

You are welcome to envision dirty washroom on your own, I chose this picture that surfaced when I was searching for "bad mouth" images
You are welcome to envision dirty washroom on your own, I chose this picture that surfaced when I was searching for "bad mouth" images | Source

Spilling... Guts?

What pushed me over the edge were the comments. We have the freedom now to comment and comment we do. So much hatred! Canadians went on and on about how terrible immigration was and how multiculturalism failed everywhere, whereas immigrants said quite the opposite. Both views had valid points and I decided to make my own little contribution. Not to the discussion. I feel that participating in those discussions is like going to very dirty public washrooms, if you can avoid it, just hold.

Somewhere I even read that “blogs are dirty washrooms, where people overfed with glamour and life in general cannot withhold and throw up.” You don’t have to agree with me, just read the discussion and tell me later how it feels. The feeling ain’t pretty.

I came across a very clever and sarcastic author - Gene Weingarten from "The Washington Post".

One article is about modern plight of journalists and the other about decline or rather the official death of English language.

"In the United States, English has become increasingly irrelevant particularly among young adults." (Gene Weingarten)

The most typical face on Earth

The reason for commotion

The most typical person

  • - is right – handed
  • - makes less than $12,000 a year
  • - has a cell phone
  • - does not have a bank account (less than 25% of us do)

The most typical person looks like:

  • - is a male (males outnumber females but just barely)
  • - is 28 years old
  • - Han the Chinese man

There are more than 9,000,000 of them.

By 2030, the most typical manwould be Indian and remember that “typical” is always relative .

As I said there is nothing extraordinary, but this little article provoked such unbelievably heated discussion!

Do you want to live in China?

I did get back to my early days of immigration after all with all this talk about Chinese taking over the world. When we had our interview with the Canadian Immigration Officer in 1997, he suggested that we head for a big city because we were from Moscow and living in rural Canada wouldn’t do anything for us. But he suggested going to Vancouver. We had next to nothing knowledge about Canada anyway, so we ordered the tickets to Vancouver.

Then when it was time to pick our visas from the Canadian Embassy in Moscow, we were standing in line and we met one guy who was Russian but already had Canadian citizenship. He was from Ottawa.

- Vancouver? Why on earth, Vancouver?

- I don’t’ know, the Immigration Officer said we should go to Vancouver.

- Well, you don’t have to. You have a choice. What, do you want to live in China?

- Why China? What China? What are you talking about?

- Vancouver is an Asian-dominated city and unless it is what you want, I suggest you go to Toronto.

We did. It had more benefits for us, it was closer to Moscow, so the airfare was cheaper and so the long distance calls rates. It took less time to travel back and forth. Toronto had a fairly big Russian community from which I tried to stay away as far as I could and as long as I could.

But coming back to living in China. I didn’t want to live in Chinese-dominated city. I don’t like “dominated” anything. I like balance. I don’t like “girls only” and “boys only and I”, it all makes me quite uncomfortable.

When we came to Toronto, I heard a story from a Romanian mother that she had to take her daughter from one school and transfer to another because most students were Chinese and they were quite exclusive. Chinese stick together like glue. Russians scatter like mercury.

I am not writing against Chinese at all, I am recollecting and reflecting. Ironically enough, I live in little China. The area where I live in Toronto, North-East, borders on Chinese-dominated regions. If you go north, there would be Chinese everything. Not English – Chinese, Chinese – English, just CHINESE.

Once we were in a supermarket and I needed to ask a question, but I could not find anyone speaking English.

Do I live in China?

My boy goes to school and I would say 80% to 90% children in his class are Chinese. My son is the only white boy and another white person in the class is the teacher.

Do I live in China?

Yes and no, something like that. I don’t mind. If this is the reality, then this is the reality. There are other things that bother me more about immigration and ethnic group domination.

Russians and Chinese are Brothers Forever

This slogan comes from the times when Russia and China were on friendly terms. Chinese learnt Russian, Russians did not have to learn Chinese, times might change, but what I find is that Chinese people from older generations are well disposed towards Russians. They even try to remember a few words and if they can they are so happy. "Tovarisch" (Comrade)...

I have to admit that this hub become a monster (a monstrosity, more like), too long, too many themes, but until I have the time to edit or rewrite I would like to keep it as it is. Therefore, I offer you the connection - Russian - Chinese connection. There is a very beautiful and beloved Russian war song "Katyusha" (a girl who was singing about her loved one being in the Army) and I offer you this song in Chinese. Chinese loved old Russian songs and who can blame them, those songs are beautiful. In Russian, in Chinese, in any language.

Music is the most beautiful connection people might share. Music, art, dance...

If a typical man is Chinese, why Canadians are so upset?

There a few phrases that surfaced when I was reading on multiculturalism. Canadians are concerned that immigration will negate Canadian identity. Nowadays, being an immigrant is more typical than being Canadian-born and raised.

"The quiet heroism of getting along" - I can identify with this phrase, sometimes I feel that it is too much diversity to handle especially when I have to accept "The Dark Ages" washing up on Canadian shores.

"Masochistic celebration of Canadian nothingness" - sounds funny, yet sad.

I did not write “Canadian Manifesto”. Clearly I don’t have enough imagination for things like that. I don’t hate or I don’t hate enough. Maybe not yet. There are things that rub me the wrong way. But I don’t give you the source for a reason. The person, who did it, got enough trouble for writing it. The comments exchange is so repulsive that you are better off with only a few glimpses. That is what it is, a glimpse at an opinion. A cut, shearing, cross-section, sectional view – whatever word you prefer. Without those opinions, the view of multiculturalism is never complete. To say that everything is wonderful is simply not true, to say that everything is terrible…

To signify that I am quoting somebody from "Discussion", I will name these responses "Discussion Highlights".

Canadian Manifesto. Part I. Welcome!

"Discussion Highlight # 1."

I was born in Canada 60 years ago.

Now it seems to me on this page that too many people are not loading their brain with facts before shooting off their mouth.

Take a deep breath all of you and think before you get your fingers going on the keyboard.

It is the mix of different races that makes Canada what it is.

All I am seeing a bunch of prejudiced inconsiderate arsh-holes spouting off at the mouth without really thinking what they are saying.

We need to remember rule # 1

If you want someone to treat you in a certain way then treat them that same way. If you don’t want to be treated in a certain way then do not treat anyone else in that way.

It is called the Golden Rule from Christiandom.

Now I know some of you have never been introduced to Christianity, but I think you will find that Allah and Buddha even John Smith also had this concept within their doctrine.

That is where all religious ideals touch base on the same ground.

Love thy neighbor as thy brother.

Give Peace a Chance - John Lennon

Canadian Manifesto. Part II. Conform or Else!

Having said that, the other side of the coin goes like this.

When in Rome do as the Romans do.

Please do not come here expecting to bring everything to my country from your country.

You left your country - remember?

If you want to live in my country you must learn to live within my rules and under the authority that is already established here in my country.

You have every opportunity to return to your home country where life is perfect - right?
That is why you left - REMEMBER?

I did not agree to accept your problems and bad attitudes in my country.

Leave that junk at home.
Fit In or Fork Off. FIFO

I will love you like a brother if you choose to Fit In.

And I will help you to FO if you don’t choose to Fit In.

To Hell with Your Multiculturalism. Canada for Canadians!

"Discussion Highlight # 2".

"Multiculturalism is a failed social experiment"

Gordon Brown, British PM

"Multiculturalism has failed"

Angela Merkel, German Chancellor

These are the leaders of Britain and Germany, openly announcing that multiculturalism does not work.Immigrantscome to Canada and rather than integrate they form small ethnic pockets in our cities and keep their old way of life. Only left wing bleeding heart Canadians refuse to see this.

Recently, CSIS has announced that certain government officials of Chinese and Indian descent are being influenced by their respective home countries....aka....they are spying on Canada.

A few weeks ago, Chinese hackers hacked into our national defense department for information on Canadian and Western nations’ new weaponry. We have Somali's in Toronto going door to door recruiting for Islamic terrorist organizations as reported last week by the CBC news, not to mention the other Muslim terrorists that arrested by CSIS on a weekly basis. And of course there is the Sikh problem, where they think they are above the law by not having to wear motorcycle helmets, remove headdress before entering the Legion or the RCMP, and now they want to wear a dagger into our parliament buildings.

And Canadians are told we are intolerant? We have all of these 3rd worlders coming into our beautiful country and this is what we get. Don't worry bleeding heart pinkos, the day will come where you too will wake up as I did. The world is not an innocent place, and nobody "loves" us, they only love our natural resources. The world views Canada as a country that is up for grabs, and its citizens are too stupid to even know it.

It starts with China, it ends with China

As usual, I was looking for something else, when I came across this book “Multicultiphobia” by Phil Ryan. I did not want to buy it, so I looked up a review. Phil Ryan is a public policy professor at Carleton University in Ottawa. His book is an attempt “to make the national discussion about multiculturalism less hysterical, more grounded in reality and fairer.” (Douglas Todd)

The review of a book is quite condensed, so I found it difficult “to summarize a summary” so to speak. The article is a delight, so is a book I assume.

The Act of Multiculturalism was introduced in 1988 and as Phil Ryan pointed out “the term was never defined”. This fatal omission was one of the reasons that the term “multiculturalism was so explosive”.

The most common fears of Canadian authors are that multiculturalism is “a cult” spawning “homegrown terrorism”, ethnic “ghettos”, “anything goes relativism”, “cultural genocide” and “a masochistic celebration of Canadian nothingness”. Multiculturalism, they are afraid might “turn Canada into the next ethnically war-torn “Bosnia” or even lead to a new “Holocaust”.

This is apparent from two replies by Canadians to a fairly neutral article by National Geographic which had nothing to do with Canada or multiculturalism. They are, of course, far less eloquent than professional Canadian journalists and authors who write on the topic. Yet, as you can see they are quite on the mark. Anger, fear, resentment…

Sometimes I also think that there is too much of a “Molotov’s Cocktail”. “Accumulation and acculturation” takes time, but with the current rate of immigration, it is the newcomers who determine more the pattern of Canadian “mosaic” than the longtime Canadians.

“Almost three out of four newcomers come to Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto”, where Toronto is hit the most. Statistics Canada projects that more that 60 per cent of the population of Vancouver and Toronto will be a “visible minority” by 2031.

That is lovely, but I don’t need any statistics to tell you that on my Bus Route, I have become a “visible minority” long time ago. It is not unusual for me to be the only white person on a bus.

But as it was eloquently put by either Douglas Todd or Phil Ryan:

“Don’t treat whites as the “default Canadians” and visible minorities as “house guests.”

That is true; I am not a default Canadian, even though I experience some bouts of “Canadian nothingness”. I am caught in between two worlds, I am no longer Russian I used to be, but I am not a long-time Canadian, nor will I ever be. My past made an indelible mark of who I am.

I have read somewhere that it takes an immigrant on average twelve years to achieve the same status as he/she might have had in his/her country of origin. On the one hand, there are a lot of educated immigrants that got stuck in less prestigious jobs in Canada due to the legislation, language barrier, inability to get acknowledgement of their degrees.

On the other? What is on the other?

I can tell you it takes me longer. I am in the continuous phase of transformation.

“Ryan holds out hope that Canadian multiculturalism will advance the ideal it has championed from the beginning – to encourage, through frank cross-cultural dialogue – both mutual transformation and broad social advancement.”

I, probably, agree with the more optimistic view on Canadian multiculturalism. As most of my friends, I enjoy the fact that we are all different from different places and we are getting along. But that does not prove anything. My circle is very small.

As Phil Ryan put it “the jury is still out on the policy [of multiculturalism].”

I’d rather prefer that it would work. There is no need to become another Yugoslavia, Chechnya, Rwanda or even France.

Maybe, if it would not work, I would have to go to China.

I was just reminded (again!) that Russia was on a death spiral and I was asked what would happen. Simple, I said, China would take over Russian territory (the process has already began in the Far East) and Russian women would marry Chinese men. The failed social experiment to control the population growth resulted in males outnumbering females in China and all the horror stories that followed. In Russia, men die out for a variety of reasons, so females outlive and outnumber males, so they might as well marry Chinese. Those are my speculations only.

I was talking about Canada and came back to China again. You should know how many times I heard that the second official language in Canada should be Chinese, not French. Well, who knows? Twenty years from now? Who will my son marry and what foreign language will he choose to learn?

“As my mom did for me, I’m helping my own girls, Ming Lee, 9, and Aoki Lee, 7, learn about tolerance—to respect differences in culture, religion and appearance.

Kimora on growing up as a mixed-race child: My friends are surprised to learn that, outgoing as I am today, I was a loner growing up. I was a mixed-race girl with a Korean-Japanese mother and an African-American father"
Kimora on growing up as a mixed-race child: My friends are surprised to learn that, outgoing as I am today, I was a loner growing up. I was a mixed-race girl with a Korean-Japanese mother and an African-American father" | Source

“A glooming peace this morning with it brings.

The sun, for sorrow, will not show his head.

Go hence, to have more talk of these sad things.

Some shall be pardoned, and some punishèd.

For never was a story of more woe

Than this of Juliet and her Romeo.”

(Shakespeare “Romeo and Juliet”)

For never was a story of more woe, than this of Juliet and her Romeo.

“A story of more woe” – ironically, the pain it took me to find original text is inexplicable. I never read Shakespeare in English, so because I was going by translation I could not find the right passage. My internet connection and my computer have slowed down beyond imagination and it created too mush pain to bear. But I really wanted to finish this hub. I am more task-oriented person that is why I don’t seem to manage my time properly.

Why is this hub so important when I have other things to do?

Anyway, coming back to Romeo. In my other hub “Toronto takes off as El Toro”, I named Toronto “El Romeo”. It was more of a word play, I had fun.

I did it not occur to me and it should, that living in Babylon will lead to intermarriages and romances that won’t be approved by families. It is quite a serious matter. Yes, Canada is a land of Romeos and Juliets. Yes, there are those stories. There are “honour” killings.

I don’t think my son will marry a Russian. If he will I would be very much surprised. But I am also haven’t given up on marriage yet. In fact, I think I might find a partner for a second and last marriage for I am a marrying kind. My first husband was Russian which was understandable. I think I was only fourteen at the time when my mother told me that I should never marry a Caucasian man (from Caucasus that is) or a military officer. In both cases, my life would be miserable. She gave me good reasoning and I never considered either.

But now? For some reason I doubt that I will marry a Russian. I have nothing against Russians (well, maybe I do, but not enough to rule out the possibility). So, maybe I will be speaking more English than Russian for the rest of my life. Sometimes I feel wistful and undecided. There are men, however, whom I would never consider. It is not race, it is religion.

“…Religious differences are the hardest area to overcome.”

So, as it is stated in the article by Simona Siad, Ashifa Kassam and Surya Bhattacharya “Mixing and Matching, to mom’s chagrin”:

“For many Canadian families the line of tolerance for race, religion and culture is drawn at matrimony. It is the acid test for modern multiculturalism and national identity.”

Just a few highlights from the article:

Today, the groups least likely to marry another religion are Sikhs, Muslims and Hindus, according to a 2006 Statistics Canada study.

Between 1991 and 2001, a Statistics Canada study found that the number of Canadians living as mixed race couples grew by 35 per cent. While only 452,000 or 3.2 per cent of unions in Canada are mixed-race, researchers say that growing diversity, city growth, education and social mobility will see this percentage continue to climb.

What makes these unions interesting is their significance for tolerance and acceptance. While multiculturalism has been accused of dividing Canadians, marrying into another culture is seen by some as the ultimate unifier.

On a personal note, in fourteen years that I am here, it became quite noticeable. People do mix.

… it tells us that intermarriage is sort of the last step…

Mixed unions could be seen as an “engine for social change”

Future generations of Canadian youth “will shrug off the restraints of ethnicity” and continue to intermarry, says Neil Bissoondath, a Trinidadian-born Canadian author, in his book, Selling Illusions: The Cult of Multiculturalism in Canada.

“They will acquire friends of various backgrounds who share their experiences, some of them intermarry, and most if not all will blend into the mainstream society around them, itself already irrevocably changed. They will, in a word, integrate,” he writes.

However, that is precisely the challenge. The choice between your old culture, family and traditions and new Canadian culture is not an easy one. My grandparents intermarried. Even though my grandmother was not exactly Russian, I don’t think she spoke any other languages. But my grandfather migrated into Russian culture and his children were raised as Russians. Did he regret it? Did he have any other choice? I had no chance to ask. I know that he married for love. At least I think so. Was he happy? I suspect that he wasn’t.

“What is love? It will go away.”

Speaking of appearances: both of my maternal grandparents had stunning looks, so had my parents. When I was born, I was a spitting image of my father. Later I somehow transformed to resemble my mother to the point that people mistook her photo for mine. I did not believe it until I saw it from the distance myself. Our voices sound very similar. So, being a mix, I don’t really look that much Russian. But most people tell me that I do. Those who know that I am Russian. There is a big percentage of those who don’t and then they tell me that I look like their people. From some mountains that I never visited and you know what? I do believe them. However, I now belong in the Great Canadian Void – Canadian Nothingness, there is my Russian past, my life in Canada, before and now and my future with whomever I will marry and wherever I might migrate.

To wrap up this section I have to come back to our Chinese friends again.

Some groups in Canada are more open to intermarriage than others. Japanese immigrants are the most likely minority group to enter into a mixed union, with Chinese and South Asians among the least likely, says a Statistics Canada study.

"Quiet Heroism of Getting (?) Along" or ...?

"Discussion Highlight # 3"

You will never be a Canadian, just like I will never be Chinese if I move to China. Do us all a favour and just go back to whatever cesspool you came from.

Response: All I want to say is a big "Thank You" for proving my point that whether or how much we immigrants try to integrate or not is irrelevant. When we don't "integrate", you guys call us being insensitve and unappreciative of Canadian cultures. But when we do try to integrate, this is the attitudes that we get. No matter how much we try to "integrate", people like you will never accept us. And please don't try to sound smart and talk about China when you have never even tried to visit China.

And no, I am not going to do you a favour by leaving. I am going to stay right here on this Canadian soil and continue to work hard to contribute to Canada and so will my 20 yellow children and 200 yellow grandchildren and my 2,000 yellow great-grand children assuming they all marry Asians. And my fellow yellow, brown, red whatever colour of skin immigrants are all doing the same. And if you don't like it, you are going to have to get out of Canada and honestly our Canada really doesn't need people like you. But since the world is getting smaller to be a global village and everybody is immigrating everywhere, with your attitudes, I don't know where you can go.

But anyway, good luck to you, my fellow Canadian! :-)

Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered,

those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid.

Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win.

~Zhuge Liang

It is either Russia or Former Soviet Union

The irony: the billboard with the image of Lenin reads "We want the Brotherly Union of All Nations".  Soldiers are about to make sure that everybody complies... I assume.
The irony: the billboard with the image of Lenin reads "We want the Brotherly Union of All Nations". Soldiers are about to make sure that everybody complies... I assume. | Source

A great war leaves the country with three armies – an army of cripples, an army of mourners, and an army of thieves.

~German Proverb

Hatred Is Not the Answer. Neither Is War

I offer you no conclusions. You can make them on your own. You don’t have to live in Canada to notice that the world is changing. We are connected. We are related.

Hatred in not an answer. Neither is war.

There was a question recently “How can two countries stop war when they are both fighting for peace?”

War does not determine who is right – only who is left.

~Bertrand Russell

But if you are wondering whom to blame for this hub or its length, don't look too far. It is Han the Chinese man, the most typical person on the planet. Maybe I should marry him? Because I can. I was offered.

You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake.

~Jeanette Rankin

Oh, I like to read a murder mystery, I like to know the killer isn't me

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    • kallini2010 profile imageAUTHOR


      24 months ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank you, Flourish, for reading this and leaving a comment. This is one of my very first articles written in 2011 and it's too damn long. I could not be bothered, though to fix it.

      I'm surprised how relevant this issue is today. As far as compelling reading goes, that makes two of us, I had to reread it as well and be surprised at times.

      I would not say that Chinese are on par with Mexicans. Far from it. In fact, if I mind any other nationality, Chinese will be the last on my list.

      In fact, I got so used to being surrounded by non-whites that when I see one I notice it as an oddity and I don't like it. Purely subconscious level - without realizing I am attracted to Asian faces by now.

      I have to say that I have changed dramatically since 2011 mainly because I studied a lot. I would not be able to become who I am now, if I stayed in Russia.

      For a long time, it did not even occur to me that when I say Chinese (language), I don't know what am I talking about. There are many Chinese languages and often they are mutually unintelligible.

      Now - I'd better stop - for I have too much to say on the topic.

      It very much depends on where you live - it sounds to me that your neighbourhood is very colourful. From my experience, ultimately people want the same - peace and prosperity, the country where their children will grow up in safety.

      I can understand all that fear that is being stirred up, but I think it is stirred up for a reason. If not Mexicans, then someone else... It really doesn't matter.

      I was fairly intolerant about religion (0nly because people tend to shove it down my throat) until I learned that the differences between us (different nationality, religion or what have you) are far greater on the continuum of our own nationality or faith than cross-cultural, such as far left versus far right. When we are on the left, faith and religion doesn't make much difference. We have similar ideas, we are practically the same. (I probably did not explain it well enough).

      Well, ultimately human relationships will always be the most complicated thing. There always be "Us versus Them".

      P.S. This year is twenty years that I live in Canada and back then I said that "over my dead body" I will study Chinese. You know, now I would not be so sure.

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      24 months ago from USA

      With immigration being as hot an issue as it is now, this was especially compelling to read. It sounds like Canada has a relationship with Chinese immigrants like the US does with Mexican immigrants.

      I live in a very diverse neighborhood with professionals who are immigrants of Nigeria, Iran (my next door neighbor), China (the family across the street), the Philippines (my backyard neighbor), and a lot of other countries. While the inclination for some people might be to exclude or harass them, people don't do it because these are our emergency room doctors, bridge engineers, and owners of local businesses. At one point in time, the Irish were disdained in the US. Now, the Mexicans are reviled here. We are all so afraid of "outsiders" but often forget that we probably come from parents or grandparents who were once outsiders themselves.

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      6 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank you for your comment, francis5k!

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      6 years ago

      good! very informative keep it up!

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      Augustine A Zavala 

      7 years ago from Texas

      We all have the same issues in writing an finishing hubs. Guilt and shame for being unemployed? Many people are suffering in these times. It much easier saying not to feel bad, but you shouldn't be so difficult on yourself.

    • kallini2010 profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Augustine, thank you, you are being too kind.

      And I feel ashamed writing about myself as if there is nothing more interesting, but every project becomes too much - writing about names (there are at least three hubs "in progress", finally not about me, well one is about Daniel and me) and then "Creating a vision - " about me, "Men are Buses" - about me...

      There is not enough time for everything. I will write a draft and then an inspiration will strike and I am being drawn into a different direction and I know I have to ride the wave ...

      Complicated. Especially combined with my guilt and shame for being unemployed.

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      Augustine A Zavala 

      7 years ago from Texas

      That's impossible. I love vicariously living through you while reading about your experiences. I should be ashamed, but I have none. Really, they're interesting as your other followers can attest as well.

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      7 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Yes, it is still not too late! On no ... I don't mind. But you should listen to my son. "I hate blacks!" I took me a while to figure out what he actually hates - the smell of spices.

      My friend A. is only slightly brown. "He is BROWN!" I said "I don't care, go smell him [A. loves fragrances] and entertain him while I am getting ready!" Now Daniel is so sun-tanned, he is a few shades more brown than A.

      Canada is friendly, don't take me wrong, but to say that there is nothing stewing under the surface - it would be a mistake. "Chinese drivers!!!" it resonates even from fourteen years ago.

      And marriage is certainly a test - whether a person is completely integrated and is a Canadian, not a Austrian-Russian-Egyptian-Canadian. Canadian identity is an issue.

      Good question about Russian ex-patriots - the answer is so long that I need to put it in my "Ideas for Hubs" folder. I don't want to spoil the surprise and I guess you had enough of reading my articles for now.

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      Augustine A Zavala 

      7 years ago from Texas

      So, you missed out on marrying a man with the most common face? I had no idea these issues were troubling to Canadians, as the word is that it's the friendliest country. Maybe not so much any more.

      I cannot live in a homogenous community, I'm more comfortable around different people and races. I grew up around the world, and prefer the company of people different than myself. Just one question, what difficulties did you encounter with Russian expat's?

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      7 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      @Mr. Happy:

      Thank you for your comment again.

      Having no car, no money and no job, yes, I am "stuck". Maybe it is for the moment only. I never thought I would be dancing as I dance now. I never thought I would be living abroad. I miss the ability to travel. But I don't miss being stuck in a troubled marriage.

      I learn. I don't mind Toronto, but I wish I could see more. I learned to accept financial and physical limitations. For now? Forever?

      I had difficulty making associations for Toronto as "El Toro", but I wrote "Toronto Takes Off as El Toro" and then again I was reading negative (understatement! - just spewing hatred) responses for "El Toro" and I decided to write against "El Toro" something like "Toro?-No!", you know Toronto is pronouced with silent "t" - "Torono". But I never got around to doing it. Maybe later.

      While I had a few ideas and a few hubs waiting, I ran across a very "tolerant" author saying that names Electra, Simon and Damien are terrible and unacceptable. Since I wanted to write a piece on names for a long time, I think I might just do a deep diving with names.

      Why are people like that? So judgmental. Oh, well. People are people. Canadians, Americans, Chinese, Russians, Indians, Native Indians...

      Happy Easter to you, too.


      (I can imagine what that woman can say about my name, maybe it is the best to remain unaware of her opinions that are always SO RIGHT AND SO FINAL).

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      Mr. Happy 

      7 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Sad that you can't travel. And I am not sure about the "stuck" part - I find that there are always choices.

      I cannot accept Toronto as "El Torro". I gave the nickname of "Del Torro" to a Venezuelan buddy of mine, many years ago. That's his name. Toronto for me is like my house. I can sleep, eat, rest, do anything I want, practically anywhere. I know this city like the back of my hand, it's quite comfortable - perhaps that's why I always travel ... searching for the unknown.

      And you know what ... I think that man was right. Toronto is not very good for learning English. When I came here I met a Jewish-Romanian kid and he suddenly became my personal translator. If I didn't understand something, Alex would be there to provide me with the Romanian translation. That did me no good in the long run; took me a while to realize that.

      Happy Easter!

      Until again,


    • kallini2010 profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank you, Mr. Happy:

      You live in Toronto and you understand it better.

      As I mentioned I had no intention of writing "Canadian Manifesto", but being an immigrant and living in Toronto, I HAD to go through "accumulation and acculturation" and I had seen other people doing the same, Russians and mostly not Russians. Some go and settle in communities and others don't. Just recently a man told me - Toronto was not good enough for learning English.

      ??? What ???

      He came from France to Montreal to Toronto - his friends speak French. I said, it was all up to him. Between us - we have to rely mostly on English or my remnants of French :))))))

      You are right on both accounts. First my ex and I encountered - we were drawn to our ex-patriots, but the experience was so horrid that we cut off all the ties and for the longest time we simply avoided Russians. It was a very lonely time. But it allowed us to learn to depend on our Canadian ties, learn English. I spoke the language before I came, but not as well as now. For my ex it was more difficult.

      Now, I don't mind Russians, because I don't depend on them. If they turn out to be "toxic ties", I cut them off without as much as a second thought and I turn away.

      In Salsa scene (I dance), there are a lot of latinos, Chinese and frankly it is a Noah Arc, there are people from everywhere. My love interests - none of them was Russian. And I was not kidding - I was proposed by a Chinese man. (Proposal is an overstatement, but if I decided to go with it - the wedding would not be too far behind).

      So, communities make up Toronto, but even my parents who practically don't speak English don't want to live in the Russian community.

      A lot of immigrants tell me at one point or the other there was an incident when they WERE told - "you are not CANADIAN enough", but most people just shrug it off.

      I like Toronto, I wish I could travel - I can't and I can't see the beauty of "Northern Canadian France". Maybe in the future? When I will be able to make money with my writing?

      I am going to write more about Toronto and the connections. What else can I write about? I am stuck here!

      Did you accept Toronto being nicknamed "El Toro"? You don't have to, it is just a piece of trivia.

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      Mr. Happy 

      7 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      The red-neck types, who are not going to accept anyone except those in their own little trailer/village can be found all over the world.

      lol @ the Chinese hackers ... what are they gonna steal, our secret methods of hunting seals with bats?

      And you know ... after you drive about fourteen or so hours north-west and make it to the top of Lake Superior, it's like you're in a different world - no Chinese people, no Canadian people sometimes ... no people at all; just forests and lakes and rivers.

      This province is just gorgeous and being the size of France, people don't realize how much it has to offer.

      And although, to tell you the truth, I do not appreciate those who get sucked-up and stuck-up only within their ethnic communities ... it's almost like they are needed for the fabric of the society. You can easily find the fifty-sixty year old, European man (just one of many examples possible) who only speaks about three words of English because he's lived, worked and talked only with those within his bubble.

      Toronto allows you that though. If you can speak Cantonese or Mandarin, you can live your whole life at Spadaina and Dundas and not speak any English at all. I honestly have no problem with that; at the same time as I think that everyone should try to speak the language of the country they live in, the enclosed communities, some with very distinct ethnic back-grounds are kinda cool.

      I go to Woodbridge and it's all Italians, around Gerrard and Greenwood it's Little India (great food) with almost all stores relating to that culture ... when I go to Pacific Mall, I feel odd - a Taiwanese buddy told me it's like a mall in Honk Kong ... don't know, I've never been to Honk Kong but that mall is different than any of the other ones here.

      I do love that about Toronto: there are so many people, from so many different ethnic backgrounds, stuck together in somewhat close proximity to each other - you end-up learning things.

      If you want the best BBQ chicken for example, you have to go to RAPS, on Eglinton (Little Jamaica) ... ya I do like the fact that some Canadians do not integrate for whatever reason. That chicken's awesome and at four o'clock in the morning it's still not too late ... or too early. Now I'm hungry ...

      Great write again. Cheers!

    • kallini2010 profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank you, Erin. Canada is proud to be different than U.S.A. Multiculturalism is our policy versus American melting pot. Immigrants are not asked to strip their identities immediately upon arrival.

      It was hard for me to write on this topic, because I am an immigrant, but as time passes by there is one decision that has to be made - where is my home? where do I belong? I don't know whether it is something to regret or be happy about? I am afraid my own position was not clear from what I wrote.

      In any case, I am reading now a book "On writing well" and I feel that there is SO MUCH I have to learn.

      Thank you for dropping by, your feedback is very valuable to me.

      All the best,

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      Erin LeFey 

      7 years ago from Maryland

      Thanks for the education on Canada - I did know that the immigration laws were more open than ours but I did not know any of the views on it from the inside. Thanks for the entertaining video as well Svetlana. We have our own immigration - emmigration - migration laws here...but its funny how it took 200 years for anyone to really take a look at them. We also have the same communities in almost every large older city, the newer forward thinking cities are far more progressive in thinking. Well, the US is a huge melting pot, that's what we're here for, kinda hard to put any kind of a lid on it now!Great hub.

    • kallini2010 profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank you, Epigramman! No, I don't consume Tim Hortons' anything, especially timbits.

      By the way, when I was writing "Toronto takes off as El Toro", one of the suggestions for Toronto nickname was Timmycity (I suppose it was in referral to Tim Hortons). And when and if I have the time I would like to write the other side of the story "How Torontonians refuse to accept "El Toro" as a new nickname. You know how it is pronounced "Torono ("t" hits the dust), so it will be "Toro? - NO!"

      Canada is a fairly strange phenomenon, but I like living here. Opinions are different, statistics are statistics, opinions are opinions. Too much diversity, too much pain, yet... like in childbirth you hope the result would be worthwhile until your child proves to be otherwise - difficult to handle. You know how expectant parents always picture little angels to appear, yet what comes depends on your luck. "Double Trouble" is what I have!!!

      A lot of countries go through the pain of immigration - emigration - migration and it is never easy for any party.

      Newcomers cause shifting national identity because it is impossible to avoid being influenced. History is full of examples...

      But you are right, I am not exactly flirting (that I leave for my dealing with men when I feel so inclined, sometimes I can be overbearing and intimidating or at least I was told so, LOL), but I simply entertain myself. Maybe that is part of the motivation for writing - that I can entertain somebody else as well.

      Thank you for reading and commenting,

    • epigramman profile image


      8 years ago

      ......this may very well be the 'manifesto' on how to entertain, educate and enlighten through the parameters of a hub - and I am so proud of you my fellow Canadian - I just live down the road from you a bit at the northern shores of Lake Erie and work in Hamilton. It must be all those timbits and Tim Hortons' coffee that you consume that allows you to flirt with this greatness - and easy command of it!!!!!

    • crystolite profile image


      8 years ago from Houston TX

      Good and well articulated article,thanks for sharing.

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      Twilight Lawns 

      8 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K.

      Can't be all bad. vancouver has been voted as being the best city to live in in the world... this year for the fourth or the fifth time.

    • kallini2010 profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Frankly, that is hard to say, it depends on the WAVE of immigration, on WHEN people came.

      I live too close to Chinese Enclave, the Rich Chinese Area, thus I have an illusion of living in "Chinada".


      China again top source country for newcomers

      The People's Republic of China was again the leading source country of newcomers to Canada. Fully 14% of recent immigrants who arrived between 2001 and 2006 came from the People's Republic of China.

      The People's Republic of China was followed by India, representing 11.6% of new immigrants, the Philippines (7%) and Pakistan (5.2%) — the same order as in 2001. These four Asian countries alone accounted for 37.8% of all newcomers in 2006.

      In total, there were six of the top 10 source countries for recent immigrants in Asia and the Middle East. The other two were South Korea, which accounted for 3.2% of newcomers, and Iran, which accounted for 2.5%


      The largest number of newcomers (447,900), went to Toronto, while 165,300 chose Montréal and 151,700 settled in Vancouver.


      In 2006, 56.5% of the population in Markham was foreign-born.

      [city of Markham is located just North of Scarborough where I live. Markham has a huge Chinese community. The China Town is a sign of the past, new modern world has a new modern Canadian China]

      A total of 18,900 newcomers who came to Canada between 2001 and 2006 chose to live in Markham. They represented just under 1 in 10 (7.2%) residents of Markham's in 2006.

      Fully 8% of school-aged children 5 to 16 years in Markham were recent immigrants to Canada. About one-quarter of them reported Chinese as a language spoken most often at home.

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      Twilight Lawns 

      8 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K.

      I know of a lot of Pakistani men who have emigrated to Toronto. There was a really strong advertising campaign for a while, here, encouraging Pakistanis and Indians to go there; mainly on Radio Sunrise, a radio programme for people from the Subcontinent.

      I would have thought your typical Toronto person would look a lot like an Indian/Pakistani.

    • kallini2010 profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      And the Han the Chinese Man? The only important thing about him that somehow he provoked such strong reaction in quite different part of the world. Fear, my friend, has an ugly face...

      I have my fears and apprehensions, too. I wonder what kind of "typical face" National Geographic would have come up to if they had to average Toronto faces? A Shri-Lankan-Chinese man?

      By the way, Moscow "average" face becomes more and more Caucasian. People descend from the mountains to overtake Russian territories.

      There is always Rises and Falls of Empires... Emotion in natural motion.

    • kallini2010 profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      You are right, Ian, I did not check the quotes in the comments. I only proofread those ramblings to a point.

      I don't know, as I said, I had no intention of writing on multiculturalism and then I felt like a child being led to a dark forest to be either left there or killed... (you know those lovely fairy tales). I just could not stop.

      Further and further and further into darkness...

      Visible minority is a term that has become more and more paradoxical because it is visible majority that is called visible minority. Whites are probably already a minority in Toronto or at least in certain parts of it. I also maintain that there should be an "audible" minority term - speaking with an accent is a dead give away that it is an immigrant and not Canadian-born, not that it is very important.

      I don't know if this experiment will fail or not, I guess we shall see.

      Thank you for reading,

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      Twilight Lawns 

      8 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K.

      An amazingly well researched and constructed hub, Svetlana. There is one error (not yours); it was David Cameron, the British Prime Minister who maintained that, "Multiculturalism is a failed social experiment" not Gordon Brown the outgoing P.M.

      I love this decidedly oxymoronic statement: "Statistics Canada projects that more that 60 per cent of the population of Vancouver and Toronto will be a “visible minority” by 2031".

      60% a minority? Hmm!

      I saw the Yahoo piece on the Chinese guy... and I thought, "and?".


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