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Do Blue Eyes Originate From The Black Sea?

Updated on February 24, 2013
Turkish Village similar to the one with blue eyed people www.pappaspost.com
Turkish Village similar to the one with blue eyed people www.pappaspost.com

Blue eyes are an amazing mutation that stems from a single individual around 8,000 years ago. When we gaze into they eyes of famous people such as Leonardo DCaprio and David Beckham we don't really think about why and how they have blue eyes.

I have recently watched the TV Program Meet The Izzards where TV personality Eddie Izzard is given a once in a lifetime opportunity to trace his ancestors back through time on his mothers side, to the original African ancestor. Evidently according to scientists we all have a common ancestor named Eve, no not that Eve, this was the original African link to all the humans alive today.

On his journey through time he was directed to go around the world and meet up at the place where his genetic marker showed a slight change. Following the map we were shown where his ancestors, and ours, began their first migration out of Africa, ending up in a region of Turkey on the Black Sea.

Wheat  harvest Turkey public domain
Wheat harvest Turkey public domain

Our Genetic History

Blue Eyes And Farming

According to the research it was suggested that blue eyes were a side effect of farming animals such as goats and cows.

It was the process of drinking milk that changed the genetics. Evidently brown eyed people throughout history had never been able to stomach milk. Literally.

After drinking milk from their mothers, babies outgrew milk and became lactose intolerant. Milk wasn't part of their staple diet, and it was only with the migration to Turkey and the beginning of settlement farming that people started to drink milk.

The blue eyed mutation was a side effect according to the scientists on the program.

There is another suggestion that states lighter skinned people have adapted genetically because they need to process vitamin D more so than their brown eyed counterparts. This was not covered, but looking at the Turkish families on the program showed that they did indeed have blue eyes.

Neolithic migration 6,000 to 10,000 years ago took two different paths. One settled in Turkey and then headed either in to Europe or the Mediterranean, and the other migrants missed out Turkey and either stayed within Africa, went straight to Europe, or travelled down to Australia where we know them today as Aborigines.


Modern Turkish Woman With Blue Eyes www.dailymail.co.uk
Modern Turkish Woman With Blue Eyes www.dailymail.co.uk

Sexual Selection

The genetic leap that shows blue eyed people came from this small area of Turkey has been talked and argued over for a number of years.

But it seems that it has now been proven without a doubt. Blue eyed people originated in that part of Turkey around 8,000 years ago. Nowhere else on the planet did or has any blue eyed genetics from that period or after.

The question was, if there were so few blue eyed people, how did they manage to not only survive but thrive to such an extent that we have thousands today?

The answer was that back in the Neolithic times and since, the tribes of people began to see blue eyes as something special. When the brown eyed males of the tribe were out hunting, the few men that were left behind to protect the tribe had an abundant of females to chose from. The blue eyed woman was selected over all the rest because of her special appearance. And this continued over the years until there were millions of us blue eyed girls and guys.

I often wondered why I felt so at home when I visited Turkey and Greece. Now I know. I was just following the path of my mother, or should I say my mothers ancestors. And mine of course.

To think of that great migration over thousands of years, with all those people settling in each country on their way and maybe ending up in England like my ancestor did, is an awe inspiring thought. It makes me feel quite humble. Maybe with the common ancestor we all have we should start thinking of peace in the world. Lets face it, we are all related.

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      Nell Rose 28 hours ago from England

      LOL! Hiya Paula! I would love to see you stuff David Beckham in your trunk! How funny! always great to see you, and you always make me laugh! LOL! love ya back!

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      Paula 2 days ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      Nell...Hey there girlfriend, you blue-eyed beauty, you. You somehow manage to teach me things I never knew! This is all news to me. Thank you!

      Listen honey, total honesty...the only thing I wonder when I look at David Beckham is how I'm going to render him unconscious and stuff him in my trunk!!.........Love ya, Paula

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      Nell Rose 2 days ago from England

      Wow! I will definitely have to give it a go! Thanks Rebecca!

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      Rebecca Mealey 3 days ago from Northeastern Georgia, USA

      Well, I do know we are 1% African so it must go pretty far back!

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      Nell Rose 3 days ago from England

      Thanks Rebecca, yes me too, and my son. I will do a DNA test myself soon and yes double check if it comes up! not sure how far back those tests go though, we are talking around 10,000 years or so here.

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      Nell Rose 3 days ago from England

      Thanks Susan, glad you liked it, nell

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      Rebecca Mealey 3 days ago from Northeastern Georgia, USA

      Fascinating! My son has my blue eyes, and he had one of those DNA analyses done. I will look and see if this area is in his genetic makeup.

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      Susan Zutautas 3 days ago from Ontario, Canada

      Very interesting!

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      Joanna Chandler 3 years ago from On planet Earth

      Seems like i always tickle you from sooooo many miles away amma take that as a career tickling people lol.

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      Joanna Chandler 3 years ago from On planet Earth

      I guess Hits "hitler" is lactosing right this minute shitting his nazi suit every time he sees a Jew. Ammma send him a truckload of milk for himto keep filthing until God is ready for him on judgement day he he he.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      LOL! I only just saw your comment! thanks for making me laugh I needed it!

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      Joanna Chandler 3 years ago from On planet Earth

      Lol oh yeah you know he stops at nothing actually he is here in Trinidad my former director acted like hitler an evil vindictive maniac . I will send him across to deal with you. Yes sweedie i know the pronounciation for where you live. Not forgetting your hub that stays very vivid in my mind about yelling over a 20,000 crowd its Bis-ham you dumb ass.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Mine probably! lol! enjoy your drink, and no milk!

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      lol! Jo! no, not quite Bisham pronounced Bis-ham just in case anybody insists on calling it Bisham arghhh! lol! that's what happens here, they move in and call the next town bish-am when its bis-ham! if he is reincarnated he can go do it somewhere else! LOL!

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      Joanna Chandler 3 years ago from On planet Earth

      Woman! You sure bring out my crazy side i don't know whose screws are slacker is it yours or mines ? I am eating and drinking soft drink/ soda too bad i aint got box milk :(:(

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      Joanna Chandler 3 years ago from On planet Earth

      Ha ha ha i like how you said evil man with you southern Bisham accent lol. Yes i heard it ;) You be careful nell i am sure he could be re-incarnated and residing in England lmao he will let his top men send you off to Bisham concentratiin camp. Where you will meet Adolf Eichman, Heindrich Himmler and Hans they won't spare you, know your facts about those Austria blue eye babies Adolf was the first crazy ...... lol

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      LOL! I love your humor! yes he wouldn't like knowing where blue eyes came from would he? evil man!

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      Joanna Chandler 3 years ago from On planet Earth

      Nell i think if you raise that lunatic Adolf Hitler from the dead he will give you the exact location of the first ever blue eye baby such a whimp was he lol or maybe he'd doubt your hub and tell you it was Austria where he was born. You knew blue eyes fascinated that evil bastard.

      Anyway lol quite interesting info about the milk and eye colours mine is brown so i am not considered aryan nor lactose intolerant, Hitler would have sured slaughter me UGH!. Praise God because i bless the day cows were born I LOVE BOXES MILK he he he.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Hi Mike, thanks for reading, sorry about the slip up, but its one of those things that could be either way I suppose, who chose who, lol! seriously, its fascinating isn't it? I do believe it was the fact that the blue eyes made them stand out in the tribe as they were treated as someone higher or either like a tribe leader or maybe even a king. thanks for commenting, nell

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      Mike 3 years ago

      I found most of this article insightful and interesting, until I read the part pertaining to the neolithic mating fiction... even during the neolithic, women, despite being the weaker sex, chose their mates, rather than men choosing their female partners.

      Perhaps the women chose blue-eyed males to bear children with due to some factor relating to social position, perceived attractiveness, or maybe their ability to produce or acquire food....

      Then again, as stated, perhaps it was just that people thought (and continue to) that blue eyes were "something special".

      Obviously, blue eyes must have some conferred evolutionary advantage, as they are the only mutation that has spread so fast through such a large part of the earth.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks Mystic, yes its amazing isn't it? I always said I love Greece! lol! well its only a stones throw from Turkey!

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      MysticMoonlight 3 years ago

      Wow, interesting stuff here, Nell. So surprising, I would've never thought...very intriguing.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi rose, thanks so much, I am glad you liked it, at least it explains why I love Greece so much, just over the border! haha!

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi john, lol! thanks for the laugh, and glad you liked it, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi heidi, lol! a long time ago! fascinating though, isn't it? thanks for reading, nell

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      rose-the planner 4 years ago from Toronto, Ontario-Canada

      Wow, this is quite interesting. Both my parents have greenish eyes and my older brother and I have the same but one brother has piercing blue eyes. Of course, there is blue on both my mom and dad's side but it's interesting to know where the blue coloured eyes derive from. Great article! (Voted up) -Rose

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      John R Wilsdon 4 years ago from Superior, Arizona

      Poor boys left at the camp not allowed to hunt! Gives a new meaning to the expression, "He's got the blues!" Nice hub.

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      Heidi Thorne 4 years ago from Chicago Area

      And here I thought it was because of my German-Dutch heritage! Well, now I've got some Turkish in me somewhere. Very interesting!

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi ishwaryaa, thanks so much for reading, eye color is fascinating isn't it? thanks!

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      Ishwaryaa Dhandapani 4 years ago from Chennai, India

      A wonderful & knowledgeable hub! Genetics always fascinate me. I find blue eyes very pretty, particularly in babies. 99 percent of my family members, including myself, have black eyes with brown tint except my father who have a pair of wholly blazing almond-brown colored eyes! Once again, a very engaging hub. Well-done!

      Thanks for SHARING. Useful, Awesome & Interesting. Voted up & shared

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      Huntgoddess 4 years ago from Midwest U.S.A.

      Heh, heh, thanks Nell. Same to you, dear.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Alastar, lol! you got us there! but we do make a great Baileys with ice!

      Hi Huntgoddess, lol! great to see you! thanks!

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      Huntgoddess 4 years ago from Midwest U.S.A.

      LOL Alastar & Nell; --- You two make a great team! I can't stop chuckling, that's so cute.

      Tyvm.

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      Alastar Packer 4 years ago from North Carolina

      Ha ha Nell -they have been know to time travel to English pubs for the warming effects of Guinness beer!

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Alastar, I think I know that four foot hairy proto human family, saw them last week in the pub! lol! seriously, sounds fascinating, thanks so much for reading, and have a great weekend, nell

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      Alastar Packer 4 years ago from North Carolina

      This some very interesting info on the origins of blue eyes. Yes, imagine those left behinds liked the fair-eyed damsels. I like all eye colors in women but blue is really attractive. Nice hazel is cool too. Was reading were America's top military remote viewer was tasked to find out the origins of humanity on Earth. He saw a four foot, somewhat hairy, proto-human family frolicking on the beach some 40,000,000 years ago. I know it's off subject here a bit but intriguing nonetheless. Up and inter Nell!

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi bravewarrior, I believe it follows on from parent to child,maybe it can skip a generation? not sure, sounds fascinating though, thanks for reading, nell

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      Shauna L Bowling 4 years ago from Central Florida

      This is very interesting. I'm the only one in my immediate family with blue eyes. My maternal grandfather had blue eyes. It is my understanding the gene that results in blue eyes is recessive and shows up every other generation. Is that true?

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi girishpuri, thank you so much, I glad you liked it, nell

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      Girish puri 4 years ago from NCR , INDIA

      Very interesting and well researched hub, thanks for addition to my knowledge. God bless.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi pras, thanks so much, glad you liked it, nell

      Hi Joy, thanks for reading, glad you found it interesting, nell

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      Joy56 4 years ago

      my eyes are very blue, but never knew there origin, but i do now, thanks for that.

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      prasetio30 4 years ago from malang-indonesia

      What a beautiful hub, my friend. I have never heard about this. I think most of people from the west (the people who live outside my Asia) have the blue eyes. But I am totally wrong. Thanks for writing and share with us. I learn something new here. Voted up!

      Prasetio

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi teaches, thanks as always, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi wonderful, that's amazing, never knew that! lol! thanks for reading, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi rosemay, you may have got your brown eyes from your father, fascinating isn't it? lol! thanks as always, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi writing, I believe green eyes are the same as blue just slightly different in their makeup, love green eyes! lol! thanks for reading, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Thats fascinating jainismus, I had never heard of that before, thanks so much for reading, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Thanks Jackie, amber? sounds amazing! lol! thanks as always, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Denise, thanks so much, I am glad you liked it, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Thanks Vellur, glad you liked it, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Thanks Peanut, it is interesting isn't it? I would love to do my genes too, thanks!

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Miss, no this was an Eddie Izzard family genetic program, fascinating stuff, and they did mention the one woman in africa too, thanks so much for reading, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi guys, just playing catchup as I have been away. Thanks tammy, we are all blue eyed in my family, don't think we have had brown eyes in any of ours for years, thanks for reading, nell

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      Dianna Mendez 4 years ago

      I do love blue eyes. My daughter-in-law has them and they are so vivid, especially when she wears blue colors. How interesting to know where they come from and the background on DNA and such.

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      Sheila Varga Szabo 4 years ago from Southern California

      Thanks for the informative Hub! I've also learned that green eyes are the most rare eye color, and the highest concentration of green-eyed people are in Eastern Europe. Me and several of my relatives (from Hungary) have green eyes. I used to hate my eye color but now it feels like a gift.

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      Rosemary Sadler 4 years ago from Hawkes Bay - NewZealand

      A fascinating read, really interesting, I never really thought about eye colour and how they eventuated. Strange my grandmother had grey eyes, my mother green and I have brown.

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      Mary Kelly Godley 4 years ago from Ireland

      That was really interesting. I often wondered why we have different colour eyes. Some of my family have green eyes too I wonder what the theory is behind them? Fascinating and I would like to read more.

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      Mahaveer Sanglikar 4 years ago from Pune, India

      An interesting thing is that, Lord Mahavir and Lord Buddha both were blue eyed persons, according to ancient Jain and Buddhist literature.

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      Jackie Lynnley 4 years ago from The Beautiful South

      That was so interesting. Always loved blue eyes but mine are about as amber as my hair! Strange what you spend a lifetime not knowing huh?

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      Denise Handlon 4 years ago from North Carolina

      An amazing article, Nell, about the evolvement of blue eyes. Fascinating! Thank you for your interest in the subject, which brought forth this wonderful hub. UP/A/I and sharing.

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      Nithya Venkat 4 years ago from Dubai

      An interesting read, I am always fascinated with blue eyes. Now I know much more than just being fascinated. Voted up.

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      Tara Carbery 4 years ago from Cheshire, UK

      Fascinating stuff Nell, I have blue eyes as do my Mum, Dad and Grandparents. I never realised where it came from. Thanks for an informative hub, voted up and shared!

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      MissJamieD 4 years ago from Minnes-O-ta

      Was this the show where they tested thousands of people in the Bronx? I saw that recently and saw that we are all linked to one woman in Africa. So very interesting! Voted up! Thanks for sharing

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      Tammy 4 years ago from North Carolina

      This is one of the most creative hubs I have ever read. I come from a long line of blue and green eyes. Most of my family originated in that region. Very interesting!

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Thanks Paolocruz, glad you liked it, nell

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      Paolo Cross 4 years ago from Philippines

      Affirms the fact that our eyes was not 'designed' but is was product of natural selection. Great hub!

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Deb, evidently green eyes are the same genetics as blue, how this works I have no idea, but its probably just a bit more pigment or something? thanks as always, nell

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      Deb Hirt 4 years ago from Stillwater, OK

      Yes, Nell, we basically ARE all related. This was a great story, as prior to this, I had no clue as to the origin of blue eyes. Now, what about green eyes?

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi torrilynn, thanks so much for reading, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi joan, thanks so much for the share, it is a fascinating subject isn't it?

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Nate, thanks so much for reading, glad you liked it, nell

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      Nathan Bernardo 4 years ago from California, United States of America

      Very fascinating history, I never would have thought that blue eyes had origins in Turkey. That is also very interesting about how farming might have influenced the emergence of blue eyes, due to milk, Vitamin D, etc. Also like looking at our origins generally, and I found it intriguing how those with blue eyes spread to certain parts of the world and how blue eyes had been maintained this whole time.

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      Joan Veronica Robertson 4 years ago from Concepcion, Chile

      Hi Nell! Fantastic read! I have read quite a lot of the new books on genetic studies, there are several really good ones about the population of Great Britain, but I hadn't thought things out with this perspective! Congrats on a finely crafted Hub, which I will of course share all over the place! Have a good day, and keep them coming!

      Voted up, awesome, beautiful and interesting! Shared!

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      torrilynn 4 years ago

      hi nell,

      really interesting hub you have here about blue eyes. i never knew what the origin of them were and was glad that i was able to find that out by reading your hub. thanks and voted up.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Vicki, glad you liked it, it is fascinating isn't it? thanks!

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      Vickiw 4 years ago

      I am another of the blue-eyed gang, Nell. Very interesting Hub, thanks for this.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi thost, thanks so much for reading, and I am glad you liked it, nell

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      thost 4 years ago from Dublin, Ireland

      I thought I got my blues from my mother, but it goes back further. Very interesting Nell, and well written as usual. Vote up.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Ruby, things like this fascinate me, I am always sitting there with my notebook handy just in case! lol! thanks as always, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Thanks point, its really interesting isn't it? no wonder I love Turkey and Greece! feels like going home! lol!

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Mike, I had heard before about the milk link, but never knew the origin of it, so it was fascinating, thanks!

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi kathi, lol! yes we love all these old things don't we? maybe I should call myself the old fossil! haha! thanks, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi cynthia, yes aren't they? I love these sort of things, thanks as always, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi lily, how strange is that? lol! yes those huskies, I should take a look into that, maybe its because the original wolves did? thanks lily, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi suzette, yes it could be the environment too, but it was mainly the milk I believe, I like Eddie too he is always so fascinating, and what a great charity person he is too, thanks as always, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Thanks ryokowaren, glad you liked it, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Thanks Alastar, the one thing that did slightly amuse me was that when Eddie Izzard did his fathers genetic line the following night on program 2 it turned out that when a certain group of people, including his fathers father etc went through from africa to Jordan I believe it was, don't quote me on that, that a lot of people today especially the red haired people have the dna of neanderthals! so its not just ozzy osborne! that was said a while ago to much amusement! evidently these neanderthals weren't stupid and slow, they were peace loving people, so there you go! food for thought, thanks as always, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Thanks Alastar, the one thing that did slightly amuse me was that when Eddie Izzard did his fathers genetic line the following night on program 2 it turned out that when a certain group of people, including his fathers father etc went through from africa to Jordan I believe it was, don't quote me on that, that a lot of people today especially the red haired people have the dna of neanderthals! so its not just ozzy osborne! that was said a while ago to much amusement! evidently these neanderthals weren't stupid and slow, they were peace loving people, so there you go! food for thought, thanks as always, nell

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      Alastar Packer 4 years ago from North Carolina

      Surprising, very interesting on the supposedly origins of the eye color and why. Ever read Cremo's Forbidden Archeology? there's a new book by respected Jim Marrs called Our Occulted History that covers things similar to the origins of physical characteristics in ancient humans- some mind boggling stuff that is still being suppressed to a goodly extent according to what he presents. But blue eyes originating around the Black Sea may well be. Mitochondrial DNA is an intriguing area of study, too. Anyway good info and interesting Ms Nell.

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      ryokowaren 4 years ago from USA

      Fantastic hub. Voted up!

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      suzettenaples 4 years ago

      Interesting hub, Nell! I have blue eyes, too, along with my sister. Scientists say outside environmental forces do not affect genetics but I'm not so sure about that, especially after reading this. And I love Eddie Izzard. There is a whole fan base for him here in the U. S.

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      Lillian K. Staats 4 years ago from Wasilla, Alaska

      Very, very interesting, and my real last name is Turk, so this hits home. There is one species that also adapted the blue eye- our racing huskies up here in Alaska. No one knows why... Nell? Love yaz, lily

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      CMHypno 4 years ago from Other Side of the Sun

      So now I know that I originated from Turkey. Fascinating stuff Nell and the twists and turns of human genetics are so interesting

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      Kathi 4 years ago from Saugatuck Michigan

      Great article Nell, Love learning about this kind of stuff . . . especially lost history. I guess that would be fitting since I call myself the fossillady! Hee

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      Mike Robbers 4 years ago from London

      Show me one that never in his/her life wasn't captivated by a pair of deep blue eyes! Very interesting hub Nell, I had no idea of the origins of blue eyes!

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      point2make 4 years ago

      I never knew where my blue eyes came from......until now. Interesting Nell thanks for the education and the history. Voted up.

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      Ruby Jean Fuller 4 years ago from Southern Illinois

      This was really interesting, my first to read about this mutation event. This is what i like so much about your hubs, you write about subjects that are unknown to most people. Thank's Nell..Cheers

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi drbj, well not me so much! haha! thanks so much for reading, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Thanks sandra, it was interesting watching it on tv, I love these sort of things, thanks again, nell