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The Hollow Earth Theory: Pseudoscience Gone Retro!

Updated on October 19, 2013
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Rare Documentary Footage of the Inner Earth

Stories of a populated subterranean world have been around for about as long as human beings have been recording stories. Mythologies from Hellenic to Buddhist to Native American to early Judeo-Christian have included rich descriptions of these underground places, sometimes depicted as fearsome places of punishment and other times depicted as idyllic ancestral lands deep beneath the Earth's surface.

These stories persisted through the Renaissance and into the Age of Enlightenment, during which seemingly educated people such as astronomer Edmund Halley, mathematician Leonhard Euler, and decorated U.S. military officer John Cleves Symmes, Jr. put forth rather bizarre hypotheses of the Earth being a hollow shell with an inner atmosphere and concentric inner spheres, accessible via giant entrances located at the North and South Pole. Symmes even tried to organize a federally-funded expedition to the North Pole hole, but was stopped by President Andrew Jackson.

Although scientific advances of the 19th and 20th Centuries have determined that the Earth is in fact a solid rocky planet with a liquid outer core and solid iron inner core, and that the idea of a hollow planet goes against every conceivable model of planet formation, Hollow Earth proponents remained unconvinced. A tenacious group of Hollow Earth enthusiasts persisted through these ages of scientific advancement, concocting a rich Hollow Earth mythology about interior suns and UFOs and prehistoric creatures inhabiting cities on the planet's concave inner surface.

While it is tempting to imagine these subterranean speculative stories as just another passing fad of genre fiction, like steampunk and teen paranormal romance, the Hollow Earth hypothesis is still very much alive in the pseudoscientific circles of the Internet. Impervious to fact and reason, this belief in a Hollow Earth accessible via polar holes is tied up in a massive conspiracy theory which, quite conveniently, explains away why there's no evidence for any aspect of their hypothesis.

Indisputable Evidence of the Nazi-Hollow Earth Connection

It's A Conspiracy!

Among the specific bizarre claims made by current proponents of the Hollow Earth hypothesis (it does not deserve to be called a theory) are the following:

  • The ground below our feet is actually only a shell 400-800 miles (643-1287 km) thick, with holes at each pole that are 1,400 miles (2,253km) in diameter.
  • The land beyond the polar holes, known as Agartha, is lush and green and populated by some sort of reptile people who ride flying saucers.
  • The reptile people of Agartha and the Nazis were connected for some reason. Perhaps because all fascist dictators love air-filled globes .
  • At the center of the whole mess is a tiny star approximately 600 miles (965km) in diameter. Light from this mini-star escaping from the polar holes is responsible for the aurorae borealis and australis.
  • The reason there is no evidence for any of the above is that it is all being covered up , of course. This is indeed the kicker that makes the entire hypothesis impervious to criticism and/or contradicting evidence.

Satellite image of the North Pole from a NOAA polar-orbiting satellite. No hole here.
Satellite image of the North Pole from a NOAA polar-orbiting satellite. No hole here. | Source
Composite satellite image of Antarctica from a NOAA polar-orbiting satellite. No hole here either.
Composite satellite image of Antarctica from a NOAA polar-orbiting satellite. No hole here either. | Source

There's A Hole In The Planet, Dear Liza, Dear Liza

One would think that a hole 1,400 miles in diameter would be difficult to miss, given the dozens of Earth-observation satellites from the United States, Russia, Europe, China, India, and Japan that pass over the poles several times per day. Yet the Hollow Earthers insist that they exist.

Nobody has seen these holes at the poles, they claim, because they are Photoshopped out of all satellite imagery, and nobody can fly over the poles because the entire region around both poles has been designated a no-fly zone.

Hmm. Well, that's certainly an idea. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that a team of graphic artists at NOAA, NASA, Roskosmos, ESA, JAXA, and other space agencies are painstakingly digitally removing all evidence of this hole in the planet in every one of the satellite photos taken every day and replacing it with imagery of holes in the polar ice caps. All those researchers at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole research station are obviously in on the conspiracy. And the part about the polar no-fly zone- that's certainly plausible.

Of course, this no-fly zone may come as a bit of a shock to the Air Force pilots who fly the daily resupply missions to the Amundsen-Scott South Pole station, not to mention the researchers who live there. And it'd be equally shocking to the daily passengers on Singapore Airlines Flight 22, which flies a polar route nonstop from Singapore to Newark and routinely flies within 70 miles of the North Pole. Or the passengers on Emirates Air Flight 226 which routinely passes within a few miles of 90 degrees North. Or the Federal Aviation Administration, which has permitted commercial airlines to fly polar routes since 2000.

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T = 2π √ a3 / μ

Where T = the orbital period of a small body in an elliptical orbit around a central body
a = the semi-major axis, and
μ = the standard gravitational parameter G (gravitational constant) times M (mass of the central body)

Nuke It From Orbit

There are a great number of methods we can use to demonstrate that the Earth is not hollow. One is to use the orbital mechanics of known satellites to determine the Earth's mass. This is quite easy to do, as satellite data is readily available online. Data on the International Space Station, for example, is regularly updated on the NASA Human Spaceflight web site.

Now, there are some doubters who believe that NASA frequently lies and obfuscates and otherwise provides false information to the public. Perhaps this is true. However, the orbital data they provide seems to be quite accurate, as it allows astrophotographers like Thierry Legault to capture amazing photos from the ground of the ISS in orbit. This would not be possible if the orbital parameters were just being made up.

NASA provides us with copious amounts of orbital data on the station, but to calculate the Earth's mass using it we only need two numbers: the semi-major axis of the station's orbit and the satellite's orbital period. Using the formula T = 2π √ a3 / μ, we can derive the Earth's mass. Using orbit 3,545, for example, by plugging in the Space Station's semi-major axis of 6,763,330.03 meters and its orbital period of 5,542.24 seconds (derived by dividing the Mean Motion figure of 15.58933883 revolutions per day into 86,400, the total number of seconds in a day), we get a mass of 5.9722 × 1024 kg.

Any change in the Earth's mass changes the orbit period and/or semi-major axis. If you don't want to work out the figures yourself, you can use an online gravity simulator to do the work for you. So, for example, if you were to reduce the Earth's mass by around 80% by, say, scooping out all of its insides leaving just a shell 800 miles thick, it would change the orbital period at the same altitude from the current 92 minutes to almost three and a half hours. An Earth-shell 400 miles thick would take even longer.

Thus, if the Earth were hollow, the International Space Station could not be orbiting at its current speed.

Return to Forever, 1976. Could a white dwarf powered entirely by jazz fusion lie at the center of our planet? It's hypothetically possible!
Return to Forever, 1976. Could a white dwarf powered entirely by jazz fusion lie at the center of our planet? It's hypothetically possible! | Source

Might As Well Be Walking On The Sun

Critical to the Hollow Earth hypothesis is a central mini-sun at the center of the world-bubble, providing heat and light to the reptilian subterranean flying saucer enthusiasts and other assorted mole men who occupy the concave. Without this central sun, the legends of the lush green subterranean pastures and idyllic underground cities simply cannot exist.

The problem with this part of the hypothesis is that it violates every accepted model of stellar formation. The lowest mass limit possible to achieve hydrogen fusion is 0.07 solar masses - somewhere between 75 to 80 times the mass of Jupiter. Since the mass of Jupiter is 317.8 times the mass of Earth, this central star would have to have - at a minimum - a mass 23,835 times the mass of the Earth.

Granted, hydrogen is not the only atom that can fuse. Lower-mass brown dwarves have been found that can fuse lithium and deuterium. The lower limits for these are still pretty massive in Earth terms, however. Lithium fusion begins at around 65 Jupiter masses - 20,657 times the Earth's mass, and deuterium fusion begins at around 13 Jupiter masses - 4,134.4 times Earth's mass and .012 Solar masses.

All this does not exclude the possibility of such an object existing. White dwarf stars can pack a mass up to 1.4 times that of the Sun into a space the size of the Earth, so it might be possible for a smaller-mass object to be less than a thousand kilometers across. However, white dwarves are currently known to be produced only as a remnant of a supernova, not a product of nebular collapse. Were one to be located at the center of a hollow planet, its immense gravity would be much greater than that of the rocky shell, and it would pull material - both rocky and reptilian - from the inside surface into the star, potentially accreting enough additional mass that it would explode as a type 1a supernova.

It's lucky for us, then, that there is no star at the center of our planet.

Ten Somersets He'll Undertake On Solid Ground

So there you have it. With a bit of math, some research, and a teensy dose of snark, we have demonstrated that the Earth cannot possibly be hollow. And we haven't even gone into the use of seismology to determine the depth and density of the mantle and inner and outer core. But these proofs alone should be enough to convince the logic-enabled that this "theory" is nothing of the sort.

Will this stop people from believing in a Hollow Earth? Certainly not - these ridiculous fantasies will live on for as long as the reptilians allow us to keep using their top secret invention, the Internet.

Or have I said too much?


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    • somethgblue profile image

      somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      Ok, found the source Deep Black by William E. Burrows (1986), I have yet to locate the page number or chapter but did read about the first 29 Discover Satellites launched from March 29, 1959 to August 30, 1961. The first twelve failed for technical and mechanical failures and were lost but lucky 13 did reach orbit and was retrieved.

      After that it was hit or miss until about Discover 19 then they figured it out and began to have success, Discover 20 through 29 were all successful. When I find the chapter and page number about the SIGINT malfunctions due to polar orbits I will provide it for you.

      The book is very technical and you maybe able to find it at the library, kind of tough reading unless your tech-geek, but I knew I had read about it somewhere and if you have a copy you maybe able to find it as well.

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      somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      Well, you maybe right . . . I have spent a couple hours the last two nights searching for the article I read about the six satellites that failed flying over the Poles and have come up empty. It may have been in a book but can't remember which one, getting old, memories failing.

      However since you're the resident science 'geek', it would be a good topic to explore, the early satellite race in the late 50s and early 60s could make a good hub.

      I'll keep searching but may have to concede this one to you as much as I hate to admit it you may be correct, darn.

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      scottcgruber 2 years ago from USA

      I've done the research and can't find anything about satellites being pulled out if orbit by holes in the poles. There were a number of launch failures during the late 50s but that's to be expected from such a new technology.

      I did find some info about the Discoverer 2 mission, launched in April 1959. It orbited Earth at an 89.9 degree inclination for about two weeks. This proves that satellites can indeed orbit directly over the poles.

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      somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      Wow, you're claiming your the voice for all thinking people, wouldn't that be an oxymoron, sort of like military intelligence?

      Those were just to get you started on the concept, the actually source material for the six satellites is part of a freedom of information act document, that I read but since I've switched computers I don't have that link for you.

      If you had any initiative you could find it but I suspect your feeble mind is made up. However since you've already stated "And there are two currently tracked satellites in polar orbit that pass within three degrees of the poles." that satellites do not fly directly over the poles then why bother you have already admitted I'm correct.

      Thank you.

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      scottcgruber 2 years ago from USA

      Thank you for finally backing up one of your ridiculous claims with source material. And, just as I expected, your "evidence" is nothing more than people saying stuff on the Internet. There is zero proof among any of those pages - your Hub included - for the polar no-fly zone or for the six satellites that were supposedly lost orbiting over the pole.

      "Some guy on the Internet said it" may be enough evidence to convince you, but it is not enough to convince me or any other thinking person.

      Now I'll admit that the polar gap in data would seem odd to someone with no understanding of orbital mechanics. But when you understand the reason why polar orbiting satellites tend to have inclinations of 83 or 98 degrees rather than 90 degrees - to synchronize with the Earth's rotation or its revolution around the Sun - this polar gap makes perfect sense.

      And there are two currently tracked satellites in polar orbit that pass within three degrees of the poles. One (Astex 1, NORAD tracking #5560) was a test satellite launched by the Army in 1971 and orbits at an inclination of 92.7 degrees. The other (NORAD tracking #8063) is a spent rocket stage from a Delta 1 launched in 1975 and orbits at an 89.1 degree inclination. Both of these paths put them directly over the polar hole you describe in your hub, and yet have been in orbit for over forty years.

      Don't believe me? See for yourself at satview.org - you can find out when these satellites will be visible from your town.

      So thanks for trying, but no cigar. The polar "no-fly zone" is just another piece of conspiracy loon fiction.

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      somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      I will provide you with some links, trusting that you will read them and use some critical thinking . . . hopefully!

      http://www.ourhollowearth.com/ExpeditionUpdate15.h...

      For those of you that need visuals because you require others to do your thinking for you, here is another link . . .

      http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread423079/p...

      http://www.thegreaterpicture.com/hollow-earth.html

      and of course I have written my own article that explains the conept in detail . . .

      Hollow-Earth-No-Fly-Zones-Polar-Openings-and-Science

      and of course no link would be complete without a Government insider to (retired DIA) reveal the truth.

      http://hollowplanet.blogspot.com/2009/03/norad-ima...

      So enjoy reading, watching and considering that everything you 'think' you know is a lie.

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      scottcgruber 2 years ago from USA

      But there is no "no fly zone" over the poles. As for the satellites crashing in the early days of polar orbits, this is simply not true. You're making it up.

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      somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      The point is that when they first introduced satellites and had them flying over the poles the technology they used to keep their orbits at a specific altitude caused them to crash because a hole leading into the Earth altered their trajectory significantly.

      They soon figured this out and altered their flight paths from flying directly over the hole or opening, that is why you have black dot from no data being input in the digital photos of the poles.

      That is why the no fly zone policy was instituted to prevent the tracking systems on satellites and airplanes from miscalculating the distance to the surface. When other folks pretend to be dumb it may work but we both know you're smarter than that so don't pretend, it is most unbecoming of you Captain Cut and Paste.

      My argument is that the no fly zone was instituted for a specific reason.

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      scottcgruber 2 years ago from USA

      So your argument is that the lack of a No Fly Zone over the pole is proof that there's a No Fly Zone over the pole. That's ridiculous.

      If we were to accept your premise that this supposed polar hole can drop satellites out of orbit, surely it would suck airplanes out of the sky as well. Since planes routinely fly over the pole without disappearing, we know this is not the case.

      Now it is true that satellites in polar orbit don't actually fly directly over the pole. This is for practical reasons. Satellites in polar orbits -usually climate monitoring or mapping or spy satellites -generally travel at a slightly retrograde inclination - over 90 degrees. This orbit is tuned to synchronize with Earth's rotation and motion around the sun so the lighting is consistent during each pass.

      This does mean that the satellite never passes directly over 90 degrees north or south. This does not mean a satellite couldn't orbit at a 90 degree inclination, but it wouldn't be very useful.

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      somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      What's the matter Holy2k15, are you unable to form two coherent sentences together?

      Folks that point out grammatical slang as proof of someone else's intelligence are obviously insecure of their own, time to grow a brain this is the Big Boys table.

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      Holy2k15 2 years ago

      A person that uses "cuz / cause" instead of BECAUSE must surely be an intellectual.

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      somethgblue 3 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      The whole 'science' theory of acceptance was created for folks, just like you Scott, so that folks would run around in circles collecting data, recording information and accumulating evidence to prove their 'theories' and let's face it they are all just theories.

      If A is true and B is true, then C must be true and then of course you back it up with 'evidence' and 'data' that you have collected and recorded to make your claims seem reasonable.

      Scientifically speaking, of course, as any object spins it creates centrifugal force, moving particles away from the center. Now let me think . . . oh yeah, the Earth spins and has for billions of years, so couldn't that mean that as it formed it would create a thick outer crust and a Hollow center, Hmmm, interesting thought.

      Now if the Annunaki/Cabal/Powers That Be wanted to keep this a secret from the conditioned sheep, baa, baa . . . how could they do that, Hmmm? Well they could create some absurd theory backed up by contrived data and call it science but would that work?

      The 'No-Fly Zone' (NFZ) you so rigorously argue against isn't for airplanes, it was originally created for satellites but also now includes airplanes in a limited capacity. The NFZ was created to protect the orbits of satellites that were dropping out of the sky whenever they flew directly over the North Pole.

      If you create a law or regulation to prevent airplanes from traveling over the true North Pole because you don't want the public to know what is there, wouldn't that create a 'paper trail' or provide 'evidence' that conspiracy nutards could then use to support their claims, gee let me think about that one . . . c'mon dude, your very argument reinforces the Hollow Earth claim, do you actually ever think these things through or do you prefer others to point out their glaring weaknesses?

      You don't create evidence that anyone can find if you want to keep something a secret, HELLO ANYBODY HOME?

      "The truth of the matter is that the first polar orbiting satellites followed a true polar path but mysteriously dropped out of the sky and were lost when they passed over the true geographic north pole."

      http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/esp...

      Why I applaud your attempts at logic I don't subscribe to theory of 'science' and hence you argument falls on deaf ears, so to speak. The Government must pay you really well to defend their BS or you enjoying being laughed at, cuz dude Hollow Earth and chemtrails are obvious, even to a sixth grader, you are the one being lied to but hey you must enjoy, you certainly seem to lap it up.

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      Justin Bagwell 3 years ago

      The Earth is hollow, thus concave and has been proven several times. The people who are in control over this sad world are desperately keeping this a secret to keep mankind ignorant from knowing God and wanting us to continue being their money slaves working for a corrupted scam system to serve them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIssyJ5cEgg&in...

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      scottcgruber 5 years ago from USA

      And another thing - if it is a "very real fact" that the poles are no-fly zones, why are they not designated as restricted or prohibited airspace in any FAA or ICAO notices to airmen? These NOTAMs are issued regularly to warn pilots of restrictions and prohibitions that affect traffic through airspace around the world. Searching https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/, I see plenty of restricted areas in Canadian and Alaskan and Russian airspace for military activities, space launches, active volcanoes, and even air shows. I see nothing about a restricted area around the pole.

      You can't have a secret no-fly zone. The point of a no-fly zone is that this information is communicated to civil and general aviation so pilots and airlines know about it when making their flight plans. It's not a no-fly zone if it is kept secret.

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      scottcgruber 5 years ago from USA

      According to the route tracker of FlightAware.com, in the past two weeks SIA21 has routinely reached 87.8 degrees latitude, about 151 miles from the pole. So I was off by about 80 miles. It is the return flight, SIA22, which gets a bit closer to the pole - recent flights have taken it above 89 degrees latitude. I will correct this in the article by changing the flight number.

      And there are plenty of examples of other airlines flying the polar route - an Emirates Air flight 226 from San Francisco to Dubai that landed this morning reached a latitude of 89.9426 degrees - that's about three miles from the pole.

      Apology accepted.

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      kim 5 years ago

      singapore airlines flt 21 in fact takes the longer route, by flying over europe. in order to debunk the very real fact that the poles are no fly zones, you must present evidence properly. if you correct your "fact" regarding this, in later paragraphs, my apologies. feeling as if this was written, not to entertain, but rather to mislead, i couldn't keep reading. it's cheap to tweak facts, whether for some agenda or to spice up a blog.

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      scottcgruber 5 years ago from USA

      Light helper: That's a very convenient excuse. And depressingly unoriginal. If you're going to make up a story to explain your lack of hollow earth evidence, you could at least put a bit of effort into it.

      And where is this "hard scientific data" showing that hollow planets can form during the accretion process? Those peer-reviewed studies would be fascinating to read. Why don't you post some citations?

      My mind is wide open when there's evidence to support a claim. If the proof is really "out there," why are you hollow earth loonies unable to provide even a single reliable shred of it?

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      light helper 5 years ago

      i have proof a high resolution video recording i have spent half of my life on this i tried to release the video and was met with swift threats against my life by unknown agency

      and by the way wen a planet is created the centrifugal force will make a planet hollow to some extent this is verry well known to the scientific community there is hard facts to support these claims but i will not argue with some one who dose not have the comprehension to understand the hard scientific data even in the Bible it claims the earth is hollow along with all major ancient civilizations throughout time

      i fear i should of never posted on this page i have been silenced like so many others fearing for my life good by i will not post agin just try to have a more open mind

      the proof is out there you just have to look in the right spot and even then it wont be there for long

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      scottcgruber 5 years ago from USA

      Light helper: Though I don't like to accuse anyone of lying, I'll make an exception in your case. I've done plenty of research into this topic, and the idea of a hollow Earth with an inner star is forbidden by basic physics.

      You're lying. Perhaps you sailed to this inner world in a dream or an acid trip, but not in the real world. If you were telling the truth, you would provide some evidence for your journey - photographs, artifacts, any evidence at all. The fact that your only evidence is assertion tells me that you are making it up.

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      light helper 5 years ago

      the Earth is indeed hollow and there is a small dwarf star inside wich i have seen with my own two eyes for i have lived all my days around the top of the Earth to be closer to the entrance saving my money to be able to take my boat there wich i have you can sail right in the curve is so slight you wont even notice until you realize you are sailing into the earth and then you see it (WOW) you realize there must b so many things we as a race just don't have the Comprehension to even know the full truth about oure Earth as the gentle light from the tiny dwarf star warms my body I am in aww as i see the most amazing sight in my life i will remember long afther the other memories from my life has faded for i will never forget the lush green tropical Paradise and the thriving cities with there giant race of advanced people living in them There are verry nice and i am very grateful for allow me to visit there domane every thing is huge there and by huge i mean giant trees almost as round as a football field apples like basketballs (IT IS Truly THE BEST KEPT SECRET ON THIS PLANET) only secret because Truth is power and the elite of the human world would rather destroy oure world than relinquish there power over the world and its people just imagine what would happen it the whole world was all the sudden aware of the truth about the Earth the elite would start to lose the grip of power over What they call SHEEPLE us we the people of Earth would start to wake up and see the truth and they would no longer be able th pull the wool over oure eyes and we could start to build a true utopian world society with the ultimate goal of no war

      (weather you believe there is a shred of truth to my message or not just do some research)

      love and happiness will make thes world a better place good by all have a wonderful life i am off to start a new life in a new world

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      Sparkster Publishing 5 years ago from United Kingdom

      Haha I'm up for an expedition to the North pole!

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      scottcgruber 5 years ago from USA

      Sounds like a good plan... Just be sure to bring plenty of Hitler repellent. Just in case.

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      Khal Blogo 5 years ago from A gas station on the yellow brick road

      I find this argument ridiculous and counterproductive. I'm going to get my shovel and find out the truth for myself.:)

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      OneYearLater 5 years ago

      This is a great article. I enjoyed both the information itself and the fantastic tone you put on it. Consider yourself followed!

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      Sparkster Publishing 5 years ago from United Kingdom

      I haven't long published a hub on this subject and I've read an awful lot about it lately too. When they say the Earth is hollow I don't think they literally mean the inner core of the Earth is hollow, but we do have a significant history of ancient underground tunnel systems which lead into the Earth.

      Another world inside the world with it's own atmosphere though, I guess considering the size of the Earth that it's possible there could be a kind of huge tunnelled 'pocket' where life could be sustained. Didn't explain myself too well there, hopefully you'll understand my point.

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      giocatore 5 years ago

      I like stories with calculations and ridiculous theories. Up and sharing.

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      Jewelz1313 5 years ago from Branson, Missouri

      No no no, they are all wrong the hole is in my closet!

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      somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      To stick your head in the sand, you have to be on your knees, but perhaps your prefer that position.

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      Sustainable Sue 5 years ago from Altadena CA, USA

      Oooh! Suddenly I understand why oil companies are making such a big deal about there not being enough oil, even though studies show there's plenty. They must be sharing it with the Agarthans, only the public doesn't know about it.

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      scottcgruber 5 years ago from USA

      Simone,

      Nor had I. As it turns out, the Internet is full of people who are sure of a lot of crazy, preposterous ideas. Fun to imagine, sure, but frightening when people start thinking that the crazy ideas are true...

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      Simone Haruko Smith 5 years ago from San Francisco

      Wow, I had no idea people had were so... sure that the earth was hollow! It's a preposterous idea, but it's also fun to imagine that there is some sort of vast emptiness beneath the surface.

      Fascinating Hub! I quite enjoyed discovering the various hollow earth theories. Hurrah for imaginative folks!

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      somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      Cool!

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      scottcgruber 5 years ago from USA

      Sure, man - go for it! Thank you!

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      somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      Any objections to adding this article as a link to my Hollow Earth hub that is closing in on 700 viewers, as a way of providing my readers with an alternative 'theory'?

      After all keeping an open mind and exploring all avenues of research is paramount for finding the truth!

      You might get some readers from the trickle down concept, sort of my cast offs if you will a way to separate the wheat from the chaff.

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      scottcgruber 5 years ago from USA

      @wilderness:

      Whoa.

      I think you may be on to something...

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      Dan Harmon 5 years ago from Boise, Idaho

      Sorry, the gravity theory won't wash. The entire 600 mile thick shell is actually composed of uranium; a very dense material that makes up for the extra 7400 miles of missing matter. The massive radiation from all the uranium also explains how evolution works as it produces mutations on a constant basis. What we think of as granite is actually uranium, which the government covers up because we would all be making atom bombs if we knew about it.

      LOL. The conspiracy theories will never go away, will they?

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      somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      Perhaps I could, but then I would be doing your thinking for you. Google is your friend and since you obviously wrote this article based on You Tube videos, well get on back there and keep watching your bound to run into something while the rest of us researchers use our brains.

      So you can only write in your diary when your plane is being held by a tractor beam? I usually wait until I'm out of my plane and have a chance to sit down and write in comfort, that was a really good argument, what grade are you in anyway?

      Who is talking about his diary anyway anything can be faked, there is a lot more to that story than his diary. Oh and I found some pictures for you of the hole taken from space, I'll publish them on my next Hub just for you . . .

      The best way to approach any subject is to cross reference the Adml, Byrd story from other sources will help your perspective. He actually wasn't there all by his lonesome, he had a whole fleet with him.

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      scottcgruber 5 years ago from USA

      Somethgblue: I've heard of Byrd's alleged diary, and read exerpts from it on several Hollow Earther sites. As I understand, even Hollow Earthers recognize it as a blatant forgery. It reads more like Edgar Rice Burroughs than a decorated Rear Admiral. What pilot would - while busy wrestling with the controls of an unresponsive airplane - decide to stop and write in his diary?

      It's fiction, and poor derivative fiction at that.

      As for the question about independent researchers, I'm not sure. I looked into this a bit, and it seems like getting to the Arctic without an NSF grant or some other major funding source is just difficult to do - lots of logistics from chartering an icebreaker to coordinating with the governments who hold the territorial claims. But I don't see why someone with a lot of money and some good cold-weather gear couldn't do it. Perhaps you could provide a source document for this prohibition on independent researchers?

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      claudiafox 5 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Greetings Carbon-based Biped.

      Please meet me the nearest sinkhole as I wish to make a communication to surface-dwelling creatures.

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      Sustainable Sue 5 years ago from Altadena CA, USA

      Wait a minute. The Poles? I heard there was an entrance under Mt. Shasta (and other mountains) and that the space beneath was occupied by descendants of the Ancient Lemurians. It's been known for a long time, yet you didn't mention anything about that area. Hmmm. ;-)

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      somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      Will that work with your head as well?

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      alocsin 5 years ago from Orange County, CA

      I always thought knocking on the ground and not getting a response was proof that the earth wasn't hollow. Voting this Up and Interesting.

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      somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      Well that was certainly an interesting theory, I don't think the inner sun is paramount to the Hollow Earth theory, many of the books I've read about don't subscribe to it. You didn't mention Genesis For A New Space Age which is paramount reading for anyone claiming to have a grasp of the Hollow Earth story, you can go to scrbd to read it.

      You also didn't mention Admiral Byrd which I find highly suspect as you obviously didn't research it very well if you left his findings out of the article.

      One of the best books on the subject was written almost a 100 years ago called Journey to the Earth's Interior by Marshall B. Gardner, which if you haven't read this makes me wonder what you actually did read or is this your idea of psuedo-science!

      Does NASA airbrush photos, well as a graphic artist that has thirty-five years experience I could do it in 5 minutes without an airbrush or photoshop and you could never tell the difference, so it is childs play, so easy you could pick it up in no time.

      With Photoshop it is beyond easy, one person could do thousands of photos a day, so that proves nothing. I have talked to many air force pilots that have told me there is a reason no one flies directly over the poles and even from fifty miles away you could easily miss it as it is almost always covered in clouds.

      Hell the peak of Denali in Alaska can only be seen once or twice a year for a couple of hours and has been photographed very few times free of clouds.

      Explain for us nutard why independent researches are not allowed to go there again, I liked that part it was kind of short though . . .