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Updated on March 25, 2019
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SIGMUND FREUD
SIGMUND FREUD

Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Freud But Were Afraid to Ask

Sigmund Freud (1856-1939) collected idols of pagan gods and kept them all around his rooms. Christianity, he said, “is the enemy.” The connection between occultism, socialism, relativism, and therapy runs deep. Freud was intensely involved in the Occult all his adult life, consulting soothsayers, attending séances, attempting telepathy, and becoming a devotee of Astrology. He was also a cocaine addict.

Instead of human unhappiness being caused by alienation from God, it was only due to sexual repression, according to Freud's grand theory. The goal was to take the most hideously unnatural sins that were condemned by every society on Earth as unholy and unthinkable and proclaim them to be natural. His central thesis was that psychological disorders are the result of constraining our deviant sexual desires. One could say that to Freud a psychopath is a natural man.

It was Christianity that was the problem to be overcome by Western Man so that he could finally be free and happy. “I regard myself as one of the most dangerous enemies of religion, “ he wrote. Freud also said, with his typical arrogance: “I stand in no awe whatever of the Almighty. If we were ever to meet I should have more reproaches to make to Him than He could make to me.”

One of his influential ideas is that evil chooses men; men do not choose evil. That frees man from moral responsibility for his choices. No one should ever feel guilty but should work to rid himself of feelings of guilt. Any restrictions on behavior are tyrannical, according to this view.

Freud saw himself as a new Moses the lawgiver, and as a new messiah—setting men free with a new secular religion.

FREUD'S OFFICE: WHERE HE WORKED SURROUNDED BY DEMON GODS
FREUD'S OFFICE: WHERE HE WORKED SURROUNDED BY DEMON GODS

Freud, Faust, the Devil, and the Witches Brew

The truth is that Sigmund Freud made a pact with the Devil, who revealed ‘psychoanalysis’ to him. The epigraph to Freud’s most famous book reads: “If the gods above are of no use to me, then I’ll summon powers from hell.”

Freud told his colleagues that he was the Devil. He was a Satanist. His chief aim was to convince the world that there is no moral law, no sin, no crime, and no responsibility—only mental problems that require therapy. First and foremost, he promoted the idea that sex is purely biological and has nothing to do with morality. Sexual perversion is not immoral, therefore, but liberating.

Even the far left wing extremist New York Times claimed Freud was issuing “a direct invitation to masturbation, perversion, illegitimate births, and fornication.” The leftist magazine the Nation said he had “an ingeniously obscene imagination” and was “a peddler of pornography, a sink of salaciousness, and in general about three shades worse than the mayor of Gomorrah.” Freud, of course, responded that anyone opposed to his ideas was afflicted with repression and sexual inhibition.

Throughout his life, a constant, foreboding theme is his relationship with the Devil and the Anti-Christ, according to one of his biographers, Paul Vitz. His library was full of books about Satan and the Occult. He firmly believed in ghosts and poltergeists.

Faust was his favorite literary work, in which Dr. Faust—who makes a living providing fake cures—does a deal with the Devil, mostly so he can have sex with a beautiful, innocent, pure, religious teenager named Margaret. The Devil delivers, and the girl is ruined, eventually drowning her baby and going insane in prison because of her shame.

Now the crucial part of this diabolical tale is that Faust never says what he did was wrong, never expresses remorse, never confesses that anything he has ever done was sinful, but still, he goes to Heaven. Meaning: The Pact was worth it.

One highlight of the story is a gathering of witches from around Europe for a wicked, orgiastic celebration with the Devil (Mephistopheles) on the night of April 30th. Now this date, April 30th, would become the night that Sigmund Freud first took cocaine, in 1884. He consumed it in liquid form, a ‘witches brew' according to the Spaniards who first discovered its use among Indians in South America. He got the devilish drug from Emanuel Merck—the grandson of Goethe’s model for Mephistopheles when he wrote Faust.

Dr. Freud regularly used pure, unadulterated cocaine in large doses for twelve years, which produces potent drug-induced altered mental states that include fantasies and hallucinations. More than one biographer of Freud has concluded that he was in these states when he created his theories about psychology. Cocaine use is still known today for producing psychosis in which one thinks he has discovered the secret to life. And is famous for causing an obsessive preoccupation with sex.

THE DEVIL AND DR. FAUSTUS
THE DEVIL AND DR. FAUSTUS

The Subconscious

Although Dr. Freud presented himself as a scientist, he had virtually no interest in science, saying that his interest was "to investigate the origins of religion and morality." Freud saw himself as creating a replacement for confession, writing: "Confession is liberation and that is the cure. The Catholics knew it for centuries. I boldly substituted myself for the confessor.”

His ideas about the subconscious were designed to explain away the Devil and demons. Many times he noted the similarity with his concept of the “subconscious” and demonic possession.

Another of Freud’s favorite books was The Witches Hammer, which precisely outlines how to make a pact with Satan by renouncing God, Christ, the Church, and the Bible—which Freud did. But he artfully concealed his motives from the public.

In his letters, Freud writes of his “constant need for self-censorship, since most people are not sophisticated enough to understand.” When he was told how popular his latest book had become in 1901, he replied, “Not even if I had them by the scruff of the neck, I swear, would ever these people smell the devil.” He saw himself as working for the powers of darkness against the Lord.

The Root of Freud's Atheism

It is highly likely that Freud was sexually abused as a child, hence his preoccupation with childhood sexuality. The man was personally obsessed by incest. He wrote in a letter: “Unfortunately, my own father was one of these perverts and is responsible for the hysteria of my brother and those of several younger sisters.”

Here we see a cause of the father hatred at the bottom of his theories. And father hatred as the root of Freud's rejection of his father's Judaism. Freud closely related the concepts of God and father, as in God the Father. He wrote of “the intimate connection between the father-complex and belief in God. A personal God is nothing other than an exalted father.”

The psychological basis of his atheism was that God no longer seems real once your father’s authority is undermined. Behind many atheists today we see shame, disappointment, or anger towards their fathers, with disbelief in God a sort of revenge on their earthly father. Atheism is often an expression of psychological pathology.

THE DESK OF SIGMUND FREUD: FULL OF PAGAN IDOLS
THE DESK OF SIGMUND FREUD: FULL OF PAGAN IDOLS

Freud: the Antichrist

Freud admired Mussolini because like himself Il Duce hated Christianity. Even though he was Jewish, Freud famously wrote, "The Nazis? I'm not afraid of them. Help me rather combat my true enemy: the Roman Catholic Church."

He did later write of the Nazis: "The fact is that the Gospels tell a story that is set among Jews, and in fact deals only with Jews. The Nazis’ hatred of Jews is at bottom a hatred of Christians. The German National Socialist revolution finds such clear expression in the hostile treatment of both of them."

Isn’t it interesting that the Antichrist is seen as a false messiah, who is a Jewish man, known for false cures and miracles, and works to destroy belief in Christ? In Freud's library are Anti-Christ by Nietzsche; Anti-Christ by Renan; and The Anti-Christ Legend by Boussett. Here is Sigmund Freud in his own words: “Do you not know I am the Devil?”

Arnold Zweig knew Freud well and wrote of him in 1930: “Analysis has reversed all values, it has conquered Christianity and disclosed the Antichrist.” Freud accepted this as true and wrote, “I have no attraction to Christianity with its lie of salvation.”

He saw his life’s work as to debunk and denigrate the sacred. It is obvious, as Paul Vitz has said, “Freud had a life-long neurotic obsession with religion” even while he sneered that religion itself was a “universal obsessional neurosis.”

The Future of an Illusion: Christianity is the Illusion and It Has No Future

Freud’s most powerful and influential attack on Christianity was his 1927 book The Future of an Illusion, in which the illusion is Christianity, and it has no future. Among his thoughts: "Religion is the child-like condition of humanity." As Vitz says, "The interpretation of religion as an illusion thus allowed him the pleasure of interpreting religious belief as other people’s problem, not his own loss. “

Freud’s diabolical writings give the distinct impression that he is an expert on Christianity. But what is little known is that he never had any Christian patients, except for one little old lady, of whom he said, "She always received me as if I were the Devil; she was always armed with a small ivory crucifix.”

Most of Freud’s patients were like himself, born Jewish by blood but Atheist by adult choice. He appears to have known no religious Jews - adherents of Judaism - as an adult at all. There is no evidence that he ever read the New Testament or the works of major Christians writers.

SIGMUND FREUD AT WORK: NOTE THE SHEER NUMBER OF IDOLS IN HIS OFFICE
SIGMUND FREUD AT WORK: NOTE THE SHEER NUMBER OF IDOLS IN HIS OFFICE

Psychoanalysis

By the 1930s, Freud's invention, psychoanalysis, became a lucrative business. Wealthy women latched onto it, "satisfying their need for attention, flattery, and someone to listen to their malicious chatter," as Clare Booth Luce, a big fan, put it.

Before long, Hollywood caught on. After all, Tinseltown was (and is) full of neurotic people who needed someone to explain the meaning of life to them, and they had plenty of dough to pay for it. Soon psychoanalysts start to appear in movies, without exception as a suave, sophisticated intellectual who’s got it all figured out and is a savior figure for the lost.

While he made no positive contribution to the world, Freud’s ideas still permeate the classroom, mass media, and the therapy business. Who hasn’t heard of his terms, such as repression, anxiety, guilt complex, libido, and penis envy? By rejecting religion, morality, and fatherhood, and reducing love to sex, he unleashed a plague upon modern society.

Freudian Psychology

Psychology is the only profession that creates the diseases it claims to cure. Before Sigmund Freud came along, no intelligent adult could claim his own actions were not his own fault.

Psychology created a new man, one who is blameless for his faults and not responsible for them because they come from his childhood, when he was indeed innocent. Since psychology was created in Christian society, there is no question but that Christianity is its target, what it seeks to displace. A sinner is told to “Repent!” by Jesus but the psychologist says there is nothing to repent for; only things for which you need therapy at $250 an hour.

After World War Two, it became unfashionable to think that heredity had anything to do with how one turned out. Instead, it must be social forces, especially bad family environments. It became accepted that it was only bad childhoods that made for delinquents and criminals. And so the Social Worker Revolution came.

Christian volunteers had done social work for centuries, but the new paradigm was that Freudian psychology would work better—that social work should be done without Jesus. Soon, this idea was being applied to juvenile and adult offenders and it was observed that criminals have other conduct disorders as well as committing crimes, perhaps mental or nervous abnormalities.

The mind doctors generally concluded that rather than beset by spiritual problems, felons are victims of psychic trauma in their past, that they might not even remember. The remedy was to establish a system of psychiatric clinics alongside all courts and prisons, and to allow mental experts to guide judges and prison officials in their treatment of those who misbehave.

Some experts said prisons should be eliminated altogether and replaced by mental health rehabilitation centers, since criminals were not truly blameworthy for their foul deeds. Even the famous atheist lawyer Clarence Darrow argued in court: “There really is no such thing as crime; therefore there is no such thing as moral responsibility.”

MEPHISTOPHELES
MEPHISTOPHELES

Psychology Today

Thomas Szasz, the famous atheist psychiatrist, admits what psychology really is: “The clever and cynical destruction of the spirituality of man.”

The good doctor had a lot more to say, as well, about important things, such as that ‘mental illness’ is just a term to describe unwanted behavior and what is wanted and unwanted behavior is a judgment call not a scientific fact. ‘Mental Disorder,’ he called a ‘weasel term,’ and ‘drug addiction’ not a disease but a ‘social habit.’ A disease is something a person has; behavior is what people do. Szasz taught that diseases are "malfunctions of the human body, of the heart, the liver, the kidney, the brain" while "no behavior or misbehavior is a disease or can be a disease. That's not what diseases are."

Calling people diseased denies them responsibility as moral agents with free will. Disease can be seen during an autopsy - but not voted into existence by members of the American Psychiatric Association.

Szasz said, “One of Freud’s most powerful motives in life was to inflict vengeance on Christianity.” And he called psychotherapy “a fake religion that seeks to destroy true religion.”

Secular psychologists Keen and Reiff described psychotherapy as “a kind of national religion, with a gospel of self-fulfillment and with therapists as the new priests.”

Note that psychology often promotes itself as the solution to the same problems that the Bible addresses as spiritual issues to be solved by entering into a relationship with Jesus. A person who does not believe in Heaven cannot possibly show you the way. Since man did not create himself he cannot comprehend himself unless he consults his owner’s manual, which is the Holy Bible.

Jesus said you must deny yourself to be saved. When I was young, self-centeredness was considered a grave fault. Today, it is at the center of our culture: self-love, self-esteem, self-acceptance, self-forgiveness, self-awareness, self-image, self-confidence, self-worth, self-control, and self-improvement.

It is an odd thing that people in the mental health field seem to suffer from many psychological problems themselves. Every fourth psychologist admits to having considered suicide and they commit suicide at twice the rate of their patients.

Freud killed himself, but before he did he said, “Patients are nothing. We cannot help them.” And as Professor of Psychiatry Al Parides notes, “If you look at the personal lives of all Freud’s initial disciples they have an unbelievable amount of particular problems in the sexual area. The amount of deviancy as far as their sexual behavior is enormous.”

And yet these are the same people who decree: “Parents should be licensed to have children only upon demonstrating a sound understanding of truths dispensed by psychologists.”

DR. FAUST MAKES A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL
DR. FAUST MAKES A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL

Freudian Ideas Permeate Our Culture

Freud used Darwin's ideas as a base from which to launch his destruction of Christian morality. His views of human nature underwrite the ‘anything goes' culture we have today. To him, nothing is more important to a man than sexual pleasure, whether he admits it or not. Christian morality imposed rules on sexual behavior and to Freud that had just about ruined everything.

One of his principal ideas was that the only reason we are repulsed by any taboo such as incest is that we so very badly want to do it. According to Freud, every person wants to have sex with his or her mother, father, sister, and brother. In order to explain this, he invented what we call the ‘subconscious,’ something there is zero evidence even exists.

Only 5% of American psychologists/psychiatrists believe in the Creator God of the Holy Bible—the lowest of any profession.

It was Freud and his followers who encouraged us to sexualize everything and to think about and talk about sex all the time. And in all his works you will not find the word ‘responsibility.'

Sigmund Freud, a militant atheist, worked to undermine belief in God, angels, and demons, so he made up substitute ideas about the mind. His fundamental theory was that all of the world's problems result from males repressing that they want to kill their fathers so they can have sex with their mothers.

His ‘science' has long since been discredited, but his phony theories are still incredibly influential in our culture, in how we unknowingly think and see things. When you hear that we are nothing but animals; that whoredom is the key to happiness; that hedonism should be your aim in life; that we all need to be therapized to get rid of guilt and shame—the tools God uses to bring us to repentance—thank Freud.

A SCENE FROM THE MOTION PICTURE 'FAUST'
A SCENE FROM THE MOTION PICTURE 'FAUST'

What Works and What Doesn't Work

The ideas of Sigmund Freud “are now firmly planted in the unexamined beliefs of the average man and woman,” said Harold Bloom, even as they have been completely discredited in the scientific community. Research shows that the more mothers know about psychology, the more trouble they have raising their children.

Another study shows that people in the mental health field—whose jobs it is to solve our problems—have no fewer problems themselves and no less trouble with their children than the average parent.

We must remember the original claims of this profession: If only we had enough professionals and billions of federal dollars we would see an enormous decrease in depression, suicide, divorce, and crime. Instead, we have suffered from ten times more of all social pathologies since we stopped turning our troubles over to the Lord and His Church, and turned instead to the godless mental health industry.

Psychiatrists say that the most common cause of suicide and mental illness is unresolved guilt. But they never recommend the only therapy that truly works: Telling their patients that God loves them and will forgive them of everything they have done if they will just believe on His Son.

God can cleanse your conscience and set you free; free from sin, guilt, shame, and the wages of sin: Death. Since man cannot live with guilt, he will try to justify what he has done and what he plans to do. We sin willfully, which naturally leads to guilt unless you are a sociopath. You can turn that into Godly sorrow, which leads to repentance. Confess to God that what you have done is wrong. Ask Him to heal you and He will.

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    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      Cynthia Taggart ~ Wow. Those are indeed some pretty heavy duty words there. Thank you for sharing them with us. They help me understand Jung much better than I did before. I appreciate the illumination, my friend.

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      Cynthia Taggart 

      2 weeks ago from New York, NY

      You can publish my comment if you'd like. But also publish what Yung wrote here because it is testimony to his hate of socialism:

      "Curiously enough, the Churches too want to avail themselves of mass action in order to cast out the devil with Beelzebub - the very Churches whose care is the salvation of the individual soul. They do not appear to have heard of the elementary axiom of mass psychology that the individual becomes morally and spiritually inferior in the mass, and for this reason they do not bother themselves overmuch with their real task of helping the individual to achieve a metanoia, a rebirth of the spirit - Deo concedente. It is, unfortunately, only too clear that if the individual is not truly regenerated in spirit, society cannot be either, for society is the sum total of individuals in need of redemption. I can therefore see it only as a delusion when the Churches try - as they apparently do - to rope the individual into some social organization and reduce him to a condition of diminished responsibility, instead of raising him out of the torpid, mindless mass and making clear to him that he is the one important factor and that the salvation of the world consists in the salvation of the individual soul. It is true that mass meetings parade these ideas before him and seek to impress them on his mind by dint of mass suggestion, with the melancholy result that once the intoxication has worn off the mass man promptly succumbs to another even more obvious and still louder slogan. His individual relation to God would be an effective shield against these pernicious influences. Did Christ, perchance, call his disciples to him at a mass meeting? Did the feeding of the five thousand bring him any followers who did not afterward cry with the rest, "Crucify him!" when even the rock named Peter showed signs of wavering? And are not Jesus and Paul prototypes of those who, trusting their inner experience, have gone their individual ways in defiance of the world?

      . . . All the thinking and looking after are done from the top; to all questions there is an answer, and for all needs the necessary provision is made. The infantile dream-state of the mass man is so unrealistic that he never thinks to ask who is paying for this paradise. The balancing of accounts is left to a higher political or social authority, which welcomes the task, for its power is thereby increased; and the more power it has, the weaker and more helpless the individual becomes.

      Whenever social conditions of this type develop on a large scale, the road to tyranny lies open and the freedom of the individual turns into spiritual and physical slavery. Since every tyranny is ipso facto immoral and ruthless, it has much more freedom in the choice of its methods than an institution which still takes account of the individual" – “The Undiscovered Self (Present and Future)” 1957 – Carl G. Jung

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      I will delete your last message if you want me to, Cynthia, although I really liked what you said there. I appreciate the love. You did not come on too strong for me at all. Never worry about that. And this deep section of your words I love: "It is so fascinating to discover that the archetype of the cross is an indelible mark on all of our unconscious's to such degree that it can be no accident, no chance, that anything but God Himself is behind the choice of the powerful psychological persuasion it would have on an entire planet, enough to change the calendar, a love so great it sends chills up my spine just to think that it is manifestly RATIONAL."

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      Cynthia Taggart ~ I enjoyed your comments about Christ and the Cross. And if "Jung captures the beauty of that sacrifice very brilliantly" I am surely happy to hear it. Thank you.

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      Cynthia Taggart ~ If my words were received as some kind of personal “disdain of Jung,” or animus, then I failed to articulate my thoughts. As I say, my subject was demonic communications to human beings and I only used Jung as an example of such, not to make him look bad but to point out that a lot of famous, well regarded people have claimed to have been communicated to by demons.

      I am surely no Jung expert. I do appreciate what you are saying about him combatting atheism, rebutting those who, as you say, “discredit spiritual life as meaningless.” I did not miss what you said about C.S. Lewis. I am sure that God can make good come from bad. In fact, that is surely one of His specialties.

      I certainly can appreciate what you are saying, that “as a psychologist - that in order to delve into the criminal mind of some, that the dark side of humanity's face has to be gleaned into.” I can see that. Perhaps we can applaud his courage. I do not think I ventured any opinion as to “what you think Jung was all about.” I am pleased to read that he was “a hater of socialism and the deep corruption it leads man into with not only himself but society.” That is truly worthy of my kudos. Thank you for the illumination.

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      Cynthia Taggart 

      2 weeks ago from New York, NY

      PRIVATE MESSAGE, DO NOT PUBLISH: Dear James: Just want to make sure you're not finding my messages here too strong. You know that I have the utmost respect for you and wanted to tell you that and also to say that I am not "in love with" Carl Jung. I love you more than Carl Jung. Just wanted you to know. ha ha

      I was not clear as I wanted to be. It is so fascinating to discover that the archetype of the cross is an indelible mark on all of our unconscious's to such degree that it can be no accident, no chance, that anything but God Himself is behind the choice of the powerful psychological persuasion it would have on an entire planet, enough to change the calendar, a love so great it sends chills up my spine just to think that it is manifestly RATIONAL. Do you know what I mean?

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      Cynthia Taggart 

      2 weeks ago from New York, NY

      Want to add that you take things he said in one statement, out of context and blow them up large as can be, James Watkins. Jung also said, "The collective unconscious consists of the sum of the instincts and their correlates, the archetypes. Just as everybody possesses instincts, so he also possesses a stock of archetypal images."

      The CROSS is an archetypal image, and it is the REASON Christ's death on it is so powerful. Powerful because in ancient times the cross symbolized wholeness and completeness. Christ dying on it is God saying to man he cannot be complete without ME. He trounces and confounds us - our dear Lord He does - and Jung captures the beauty of that sacrifice very brilliantly - even when he acknowledges other faiths.

      Indeed, no one can go before God at Judgment and say "I didn't know Jesus Christ was You"

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      Cynthia Taggart 

      2 weeks ago from New York, NY

      I can appreciate your disdain of Jung, James, and I would be the same if I had not read all of his writings (most of them anyway). Didn't care for "synchronicity" stuff and all that. But please keep in mind that when one is combating atheists who discredit spiritual life as meaningless, his delving into the occult was one of the misanthropes of his studies. And surely you did not miss the fact that C.S. Lewis also studied the occult and claimed to have credited it with his turn to Christianity? I supplied quotes of his on this thread.

      It's an unfortunate reality that when dealing with the psyche of various cultures - and as a psychologist - that in order to delve into the criminal mind of some, that the dark side of humanity's face has to be gleaned into to go to the depths of "science" rather than "mysticism," which is what you think Jung was all about. But he was far more than this, including being a hater of socialism and the deep corruption it leads man into with not only himself but society. Just saying.

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      Cynthia Taggart ~ I surely can appreciation the depth of your admiration, perhaps even love, for Jung and his work. I am greatly heartened to read these words of yours: “I personally have no doubt that before he died he turned to Christ. He just had to. I have no doubt.”

      Let us hope and pray that you are right. You may well be. Praise God.

      I think Alexander Silvius is commented based on what I wrote in my most recent book, in which I touched on Jung for only two paragraphs (because my subject was communication from demons). I wrote:

      “The great Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung was intensely into the Occult and wrote of visitations he had from demons that menaced and frightened him horribly, while also teaching him what became his theories. He wrote about this in his Red Book, but his family withheld that work from publication until forty years after his death. Jung said about what he learned from these demons: “Everything else is to be derived from this. It began at that time, and the later details hardly matter anymore. My entire life consisted in elaborating what had burst forth from the unconscious and flooded me like an enigmatic stream and threatened to break me.”

      “What did Carl Jung learn from the spirit guides of the other world? “Our unconscious existence is the real one and our conscious world a kind of illusion.” A proud Buddhist could not have said it better. Jung said his personal spirit guide was named Philemon, who would appear and disappear quickly and without warning. Over time, Jung began to admire Philemon, and it is from him that he learned the crucial ideas that still affect the world today a great deal. Late in life, Jung admitted that he didn't know what the ‘soul' is—even though the word ‘psychology' means the study of it.”

      The key sentence of this to me is: “He wrote about this in his Red Book, but his family withheld that work from publication until forty years after his death.”

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      Alexander Silvius ~ Thank you for coming back by and sharing your quite perceptive commentary.

      You ask a very good question, “If the concepts of Hell and Satan are "vile" deceptions and the Bible is "insidious", then doesn't that imply a higher morality? And yet, Ramtha insists there is no bad or good!!!”

      We see this with the Left all the time. They say we cannot judge anything other people do or believe. Then they are fast to holler ‘Racism, Sexism, homophobia!” At people they hate. Everybody judges. The only difference is where they get their judgments.

      I too lament, “Godly people are obviously outnumbered in the government of a nation that was once Godly, then we know that that nation is on its way to Godlessness and judgment.”

      Like you, I am baffled “that Jung thinks that the details of how he came to believe the things he learned were not important.” As you say, “the beings (we know they are demons) he learned these things from, were beings of terror and maliciousness. How could he even think that he could learn anything good from them?”

      We are in agreeance on this: “Naturally, the field of psychology, being the most inexact science of them all, is the most vulnerable to misinterpretation or even more commonly: deception. I'll stick to kitchen psychology and the Bible - my own experiences backed by the knowledge that God gives us.”

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      Cynthia Taggart 

      2 weeks ago from New York, NY

      If Jung never existed, every person who ever had a spiritual experience would be deemed insane by the secularists and either killed or confined to an institution until all utterances of belief were drained from him, much like a beaten horse. Jung preserved the tenets of truth in biblical belief, and he did it amid the secularists, and in fact convincing many of powers beyond our selves that are directed by a supreme intelligence. One may not like that he was not an avowed Christian, but what he had done was so remarkable.

      The Kingdom of Heaven is within. Jung answers what that means, the psychic balance of good and evil is not something anyone can attain without God.

      I personally have no doubt that before he died he turned to Christ. He just had to. I have no doubt. I read all his works. They are very deep, and often too hard to read for an unthirsty reader. One has to have a reverence for the passion of his goals because he worked very hard and succeeded at bringing the reality of life beyond the firmament. (Though i will admit that I didn't like much of his later writings. He seemed to be getting too pompous, which made his writing suffer as well. [Got to be humble if one is going to write. Like James here. Hi James!!])

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      Cynthia Taggart 

      2 weeks ago from New York, NY

      Simply saying that though Einstein may not have believed in Jesus Christ he most certainly believed a higher intelligence ruled our universe, much like Yung.

      Here's a quote from him, that I am sharing in the hopes it might soften your heart. Being "double-minded" is not a good thing according to St. Paul. Carl Jung shows us what "double-mindedness" is. It is the source of madness where the aspects of good and evil shift in the psyche of an individual that God quiets the waters internally when one leans on Him for understanding and not on his own thoughts for understanding, for peace.

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      Nature, as we know, is not so lavish with her boons that she joins to a high intelligence the gifts of the heart also. As a rule, where one is present the other is missing, and where one capacity is present in perfection, it is generally at the cost of all the others. The discrepancy between intellect and feeling, which get in each other’s way at the best of times, is a particularly painful chapter in the history of the human psyche. – Carl Jung – The Undiscovered Self

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      Cynthia Taggart 

      2 weeks ago from New York, NY

      Sorry, Alexander, but there is no evil in Jung. That he may be an unbeliever doesn't make him evil, but whether God marks him as such, so be it.

      In his "Answer to Job" he wrote about the "psychic" experience of spiritual emanations. See...https://www.cgjungpage.org/learn/articles/book-rev...

      "Answer to Job is probably Jung’'s most passionate book, or at least the most passionate of his formal writings in the Collected Works. Only his aforementioned personal memoirs, some of his informally transcribed seminars, and his personal letters reveal Jung so vividly as a person. It is not surprising, then, that Job should have an unrestrained feel to it at times, such that Jung repeats himself practically verbatim on several occasions. Commenting, for instance, on the apocalyptic writings of John, author of the Book of Revelation, Jung says: "“I have seen nothing that even remotely resembles the brutal impact with which the opposites collide in John’'s visions, except in cases of severe psychosis”" (para. 731). Then a few pages later he again notes, “In all my experience I have never observed anything like it, except in cases of severe psychoses or criminal insanity” (para. 742). Likewise, regarding what are now known as “weapons of mass destruction,” Jung warns, "“Already the atom bomb hangs overs us like the sword of Damocles, and behind that lurk the incomparably more terrible possibilities of chemical warfare, which would eclipse even the horrors described in the Apocalypse”" (para. 733). Ten pages later he repeats, “"The dark God has slipped the atom bomb and chemical weapons into his [mankind’s] hands and given him the power to empty out the apocalyptic vials of wrath on his fellow creatures”" (para. 747

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      Alexander Silvius 

      3 weeks ago from Portland, Oregon

      Hi James! Thank you for the many and kind compliments on my comment.

      I can see you are more than familiar with A Course in Miracles, and its objective is the same as Ramtha's - as it is the same with humanism - the worship of humanity, self and the eradication of true morality, replaced with self morality - or relative morality. What is interesting is that Ramtha uses the same tone of condemnation as the Bible to condemn its moral teachings! If the concepts of Hell and Satan are "vile" deceptions and the Bible is "insidious", then doesn't that imply a higher morality? And yet, Ramtha insists there is no bad or good!!! He says not to read the Bible, but then in the sentence after that, he advises to do the vile and wretched things! So then as a follower of Ramtha, shouldn't we then also read the Bible? What an absolute hypocrite, and honestly, I don't even think he thinks in terms of hypocrisy, he is so filthy, so off-balance, so mentally deranged, he advises to do everything that is against God, yet must contradict himself in reason in order to maintain his hate filled directive.

      The fact that a government run agency can not only hire this loon, but that other people within that agency allow it to happen, tells me that corruption fills this nation, when Godly people are obviously outnumbered in the government of a nation that was once Godly, then we know that that nation is on its way to Godlessness and judgment.

      There was a movie once with Shirley MacLaine where she stands on a beach and says, "I am God." Now I know where she got that from.

      I am glad we more often than not see eye to eye on the most important things. There aren't many Americans who think this way, or maybe I need to move away from the West Coast!

      Carl Jung: Wow! I notice that I forget some of the verses and Biblical reasons for certain beliefs I have derived from the Bible, such as the concept of the rapture - I need to go back and relearn why I came to that conclusion so I can explain it to those who disagree or simply want to know about the rapture. But I have a basis from which to start (the Bible), and it is so very very important that we start with a sound base so we can always go back to it. This is why the Bible repeats the simplest things in many ways. Because humans are flawed and forgetful, and the process of discovery and rediscovery seems to reinvigorate our minds and hearts. That is why I find it so astonishing that Jung thinks that the details of how he came to believe the things he learned were not important! But the thing is that he started with false information, and he ended up building his whole house of knowledge and reasoning on that sand - it leads to destruction, naturally. But what I don't get is that the beings (we know they are demons) he learned these things from, were beings of terror and maliciousness. How could he even think that he could learn anything good from them? I don't understand how men can be so corrupted and stupid - it certainly is a choice, like sticking your hand in a fire and letting roast and calling it good because there are side benefits, because they learn about mind over matter or pain. Whatever. When I was driving for a non-emergency ambulatory service (basically taking patients to and from appointments), I met a few healers who used the occult to heal others. What was interesting was that they themselves were as damaged as the people they were healing and getting worse with each healing, but they could not heal themselves, and their ailments were severe, causing them to be on permanent disability. I marveled at their willing blindness.

      Ironic that Jung was so confused by his demonic education that he could not even understand the root of his studies. One of these days I'll have to study this in more depth, because there are obvious truths known in the psychology field that are evident if you study people and their behavior for any length of time. One thing that stupefies me is how we humans will take on the abusive role of one or both parents and seek to inflict that abuse on our children or others we might consider vulnerable and under our care.

      What has changed for me as a result of learning about the "fathers" (Freud and Jung) of the field, is that I look at this field as any other science, with an even more very wary eye, and making my own judgments and conclusions from what I know. Like the natural sciences, the medical field, engineering and so on, these are all filled with people that make assumptions and everyone else follows. Naturally, the field of psychology, being the most inexact science of them all, is the most vulnerable to misinterpretation or even more commonly: deception. I'll stick to kitchen psychology and the Bible - my own experiences backed by the knowledge that God gives us.

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      James A Watkins 

      5 weeks ago from Chicago

      Cynthia Taggart ~ Thank you for reading my article. I am enlightened by your commentary. I never knew that much about Jung. I found your insightful comments about him very interesting. I appreciate you filling in those blanks for me.

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      Cynthia Taggart 

      5 weeks ago from New York, NY

      QUOTE: Despite his avowed commitment to a materialistic

      worldview in his teens and early twenties, Lewis

      showed a great deal of interest in occultism and magic

      during those years. But this interest cooled when he met

      actual Magicians and Occultists while at Oxford. Then

      it was utterly quenched when he watched the complete

      psychic collapse of his friend Dr. John Askins, who had

      exhibited an unhealthy fascination for spiritualism,

      seances, and the occult. Though Askins’ death in his

      mid-40s was certainly rooted in physical causes, Lewis

      could never quite get over a sense that those who

      conjure up spirits may get more than they bargain for.

      He acquired an ongoing sense that spiritual realities

      were less remote, less hypothetical, than he had

      previously believed. Good and Evil began to seem less

      philosophical postulates than unseen spiritual forces.

      Later on, Lewis did not say his youthful interest in the

      occult was dangerous or deceptive; he says more

      emphatically that it was a stratagem of “the Enemy." END QUOTE

      Please read more about it here https://pillars.taylor.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?art...

      That's right. C.S. Lewis also studied mysticism and the occult.

      But I am writing in response to the negative thoughts on Carl Yung expressed here. Carl Jung went into the field of psychology when in his youth he noticed that the mention of the word "God" offended many people. He wanted to understand why this is so.

      Like C.S. Lewis, Yung sought to study what is at the core of the hatred of God. Where does it come from, not from a religious view, but from a psychological one? His study of the occult and other religions brought him into alchemy and deeper still into the study of why his sick patients' unconsciouses are "divided" in the psyche, NOT because he was entertaining demons, but because he wanted to know the demon, stare him in the face, expel him, and bring about healing to his patients. And he in fact succeeded at healing patients that other physicians like Freud thought were hopeless cases.

      "Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil" (Eph. 6:10–11).

      If one is going to study the human mind and mental illness, he or she must also know "the enemy" that makes invalid claims, like Sigmund had done, which is why they became enemies after 5 years. (Even Freud admitted that Carl Jung not being Jewish was the reason.)

      His later theories on the "introvert" and "extrovert" prove invaluable to psychologists today in understanding what unconscious elements in a prude, for example, would contribute to perversion, and vice versa. In other words, if one chooses a profession like psychology, and if one is going to be the best at it - the best at proving there is a God in particular - one must investigate all that the devil does so he has no power. Carl Jung did just that. Carl Jung is the reason patients who believe in God cannot fairly be called "insane," which would have been the case if Freud was not silenced by Jung. Give him credit!

      The deceptions of the devil are very deep https://corechristianity.com/resource-library/arti...

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      James A Watkins 

      5 weeks ago from Chicago

      Alexander Silvius ~ I sincerely appreciate you coming by to read my article. Thank you for your Awesome accolades. And you are quite welcome. I very much enjoyed your wise comments.

      You mentioned, ‘A Course in Miracles,’ which I referenced in my most recent book. Let me see if I can pull out an excerpt . . .

      “Deepak Chopra took center stage in the 1990s, thanks to a big boost from Oprah Winfrey. His disciples included Cindy Crawford, Demi Moore, Michael Jackson, and George Harrison. Meanwhile, Carole King gave a swami 700 acres of prime real estate in Virginia on which to build Yogaville. Roma Downey, Rikki Lake, Anne Rice, and others preferred to contact the dead through medium John Edward.

      “Some fellow named Jack Pursel once announced that a demon named Lazaris inhabited his body, and he gained 25,000 followers in Los Angeles, including Shirley MacLaine. Also, beloved by MacLaine, as well as by Yanni and Linda Evans, was Judy Zebra Knight, who channels a 35,000-year-old evil spirit named Ramtha.

      “Ramtha is described as “once the ruler of Atlantis but now part of a brotherhood of superbeings who love us and hear our prayers.” If you think that story is unbelievable, consider that the Federal Aviation Administration gave $1.4 million of taxpayer money to Ramtha to have it train their employees how to manage stress. What does Ramtha recommend? “We must stop worrying about right and wrong.”

      “Now, Ramtha’s message is eerily similar to that of what became the most popular book in La La Land, A Course in Miracles: There is no sin, there is no truth, and Christianity is false. “God is neither good nor bad. He is entirely without morals and non-judgmental. There are no divine decrees. Hell and Satan are vile deceptions of Christianity, a product of your insidious Bible, which you are advised not to read. There is no such thing as evil. Nothing you can do, not even murder, is wrong. Every vile and wretched thing you do broadens your understanding.”

      You hit the nail on the head with these remarks: “What I see here is the Devil's work plain as day - to lower the human race to that of an ant, a being who has no real control over their own lives, but is merely made up of experiences and outside forces acting on their mind and body.” Even more the impetus is on making us not feel guilty or ashamed of what we do no matter what it is – the very definition of a sociopath.

      I love the way you put this, which is echoed by my own thoughts: “the more I grow, the more I know and experience, the more I see the Devil's hand in life, and the more I see and admit to myself what I see, the more the Bible makes sense to me. A lot of Jesus's healing was spiritual - throwing out demons - including for physical ailments!”

      I believe you have uncovered quite a nugget of truth with this: “the more an individual engages in "meaningless sex", or rather, fornication, the more hardened their heart becomes, and they can no longer process their feelings sanely.”

      Lastly, you mentioned Jung. I spoke of him in my last book as well:

      “The great Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung was intensely into the Occult and wrote of visitations he had from demons that menaced and frightened him horribly, while also teaching him what became his theories. He wrote about this in his Red Book, but his family withheld that work from publication until forty years after his death. Jung said about what he learned from these demons: “Everything else is to be derived from this. It began at that time, and the later details hardly matter anymore. My entire life consisted in elaborating what had burst forth from the unconscious and flooded me like an enigmatic stream and threatened to break me.”

      “What did Carl Jung learn from the spirit guides of the other world? “Our unconscious existence is the real one and our conscious world a kind of illusion.” A proud Buddhist could not have said it better. Jung said his personal spirit guide was named Philemon, who would appear and disappear quickly and without warning. Over time, Jung began to admire Philemon, and it is from him that he learned the crucial ideas that still affect the world today a great deal. Late in life, Jung admitted that he didn't know what the ‘soul' is—even though the word ‘psychology' means the study of it.”

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      Alexander Silvius 

      5 weeks ago from Portland, Oregon

      Whoa! What a beautiful, well written and informative article. I had no idea how evil Freud was, all I knew was that he was a Godless atheist. It has always bothered me how often people refer to him with such reverence when many of his well known ideas are at best, questionable. But now I understand this guy was a true servant of the Devil. It reminds of a book that attempts to explain God and the Bible - A Course in Miracles - but in fact takes away His glory and diminishes Him to more of a self power. Freud was just as bad, but way more obviously so.

      How can the world speak so highly of Freud and completely ignore not just his bias, but his obvious servitude of Satan?

      'Some experts said prisons should be eliminated altogether and replaced by mental health rehabilitation centers, since criminals were not truly blameworthy for their foul deeds. Even the famous atheist lawyer Clarence Darrow argued in court: “There really is no such thing as crime; therefore there is no such thing as moral responsibility.”'

      What I see here is the Devil's work plain as day - to lower the human race to that of an ant, a being who has no real control over their own lives, but is merely made up of experiences and outside forces acting on their mind and body. Isn't it just like the Devil to make us think we are not in control, that we have no independence, no individuality, no freedom and self will? He is a slaver of the worst kind, taking people's autonomy by force and will and words, making us believe we can't even MAKE a decision for Christ at all!

      'The good doctor had a lot more to say, as well, about important things, such as that ‘mental illness’ is just a term to describe unwanted behavior and what is wanted and unwanted behavior is a judgment call not a scientific fact. ‘Mental Disorder,’ he called a ‘weasel term,’ and ‘drug addiction’ not a disease but a ‘social habit.’ A disease is something a person has; behavior is what people do. Szasz taught that diseases are "malfunctions of the human body, of the heart, the liver, the kidney, the brain" while "no behavior or misbehavior is a disease or can be a disease. That's not what diseases are."'

      Wow! That is well said. I really resent that alcoholism is labeled a disease because it makes the person who abuses the bottle a hapless victim with no choice, when in fact he or she chooses to keep going, to keep up the behavior. Not only that, but Alcoholics Anonymous promotes a quasi-spiritual remedy for this "disease": a spiritual system to aid in recovery from the habit that does not glorify God, but instead uses the concept of God as a talisman that any person in recovery can make up in their own image. The sad thing is that I have met many people who have stopped drinking because of this program, and the program has become their replacement idol. There is no way to replace their AA god with the real God when their idol is able to defeat the "disease" of alcoholism. It is of course true that we can form chemical addictions, but I think there is a demonic component as well that makes the addiction so invasive. But it still comes down to choice - you decide to abuse alcohol, or to use drugs, just as we decide to sin or not sin. I agree wholeheartedly with Szasz's statement here.

      You wrote, "Note that psychology often promotes itself as the solution to the same problems that the Bible addresses as spiritual issues..." Right on! I believe that over 90% of mental health cases are spiritual issues - particularly demon oppression and possession. This is so unpopular, even the mention of demons is rejected by common thinking. But the more I grow, the more I know and experience, the more I see the Devil's hand in life, and the more I see and admit to myself what I see, the more the Bible makes sense to me. A lot of Jesus's healing was spiritual - throwing out demons - including for physical ailments!

      'Freud killed himself, but before he did he said, “Patients are nothing. We cannot help them.”'

      Wow, the very thing he proposed to solve man's need for salvation is the very thing he rejected. What irony, and it could have been a moment for him to realize he needed Christ. Instead he followed the path of destruction Satan wanted all along for him.

      All that being said, I do hold to some truths I have observed - that the sex drive is important in our drive to live, work and create families, but it is a God given biological process, not the whole of our being and not the singular focus of our works in this world. Even the animals know the value of love. I don't just refer to pets responding to human care, but also wild animals. Some birds and mammals pair for life. I don't know about squirrels, but I was even startled to discover something while watching a young pair who were obviously a couple, instead of doing the act, which the male and female were obviously wanting, they would play instead and groom each other in turn - and then went their separate ways (instead of mating). I think they were in love. I know I sound like an old woman trying to make something else of what I see, but the world in its eagerness to diminish human sexual love to nothing but sex, has tried to reshape animal mating habits to the purely physical, and then compared humanity to that false standard. I don't believe that romantic and sexual love are two separate things, but the more an individual engages in "meaningless sex", or rather, fornication, the more hardened their heart becomes, and they can no longer process their feelings sanely. Then the decision to marry someone becomes a purely reason driven argument. I totally don't even understand why an unsaved person wants to get married - it means nothing without Jesus.

      As always, you make me think, you open my eyes and educate me. I am not sure that the field of psychology is a false science, but it is probably the most prone to human sin and error. In fact, I am reading a book right now I picked up for 50 cents at the Salvation Army titled 101 Common Therapeutic Blunders that outlines 101 cases of therapists hampering their patients or even becoming victims of their patients problems (sins). I think the field is certainly highly overrated, and because of its close ties with human sin and the spiritual, it is a very dangerous ground to tread without God.

      Thank you for pointing out how wicked Freud was, it makes the modern field of psychology even more scary when most of the ideas that are floated around in that community originate from Freud. I have no doubt that Jung is just as misdirected and anti-God as Freud was.

      Awesome article, thanks for the link.

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      James A Watkins 

      5 months ago from Chicago

      Tamarajo ~ I sincerely thank you for taking the time to read my article. I am so glad it was "relevant and timely" for you. And you are most welcome.

      I appreciate your warm words of encouragement. God Bless You.

      James

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      Tamarajo 

      5 months ago

      Wow!, James,

      I can't tell you how relevant and timely this is.

      I also can't share the battlefield to which this applies right now. But you have well presented the infectious worldly doctrine and origins that permeate every institution, professional counsel, family input, and even church advice I have encountered concerning that very battle.

      I am taking a few of your quotes with me for future reference.

      "Psychology is the only profession that creates the diseases it claims to cure"

      "psychology really is: “The clever and cynical destruction of the spirituality of man.”

      "Calling people diseased denies them responsibility as moral agents with free will"

      “a kind of national religion, with a gospel of self-fulfillment and with therapists as the new priests.”

      "Every fourth psychologist admits to having considered suicide and they commit suicide at twice the rate of their patients"

      I also appreciated all the spiritual background information on Freud. It really explains a lot!

      Thank you, James!

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      James A Watkins 

      6 months ago from Chicago

      School Girl For Real ~ Thank you for dropping by. I appreciate you reading my work and letting me know you did.

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      schoolgirlforreal 

      6 months ago

      The father of evolution- Darwin I heard bragged about turning people from God as well. --terrible.

      Very interesting article.

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      James A Watkins 

      6 months ago from Chicago

      Cynthia Taggart ~ I went over and read your article, which is awesomely profound. You made a great point that the sexual revolution "resulting not only in soaring profits for mental professionals, but also medical professionals who were treating the consequences of its endeavors: sexually transmitted disease and all transient psychic illnesses related to it."

      As you say, "Although many at the time warned of the consequences of the movement their message fell on deaf ears because ... we had no scientific evidence (sexually transmitted disease was neither spoken about, but thought to be totally eradicated) to believe any consequences to a sexual revolution were predicated on anything other than religious fears."

      I agree that "While we were thus hoodwinked, we must remember that The Sexual Revolution began at a time when sexually transmitted diseases were not heard of (much less spoken about)."

      And yes, we were "provoked as they were through media to believe that science had triumphed over the consequences of sexual immorality."

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      James A Watkins 

      6 months ago from Chicago

      Cynthia Taggart ~ Thank you very much for coming back by to leave me such penetrating thoughts on this. I can see you have contemplated this very deeply. I love the way you put it: "the unconscious darkness of our souls that could envelop us without use of our minds, hearts and souls for God."

      And I so appreciate this beautiful passage you wrote: "So isn't it such a marvelous response God has given us when He gave Himself on that cross, to forever quash man's ability to make himself good? Christ dies on the cross and the message is: Except thru me you will not find "wholeness" or peace in your souls."

      As you said so well, "the psyche does indeed seek that wholeness," Which for me immediately brought to mind Pascal: “There is a God-shaped vacuum in the heart of each man which cannot be satisfied by any created thing but only by God the Creator, made know through Jesus Christ.”

      You explain it even better: "man can NEVER find in his journey, and that balance or wholeness, or love, he is seeking in his deep unconscious unless he reciprocates his love for God, which is by - simple belief and reciprocated love through Jesus Christ."

      And you are so right that "For whom the Lord loves He chastens." Amen.

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      Cynthia Taggart 

      6 months ago from New York, NY

      You can delete this comment and the one before this one if you want to, but I have always believed that Jewish doctors were jealous of the sex Christians have, based on our religion's "individual" precepts. It is why I wrote https://hubpages.com/education/Part-II-The-Devil-A... .

      Sigmund Freud is perverted because of the "prudishness" of Jewish tradition. That is because in that tradition Jews are "collective" and tribal in belief, at variance with Christian society in that though Christians preach against sexual sins, the renunciation of sins comes from the individual's desire (or God's Will) that he refrain, NOT from the STATE, and NOT from control by another. It is disingenuous to find yourself MORAL if you are "chaste" for the State rather than God. Christians always understood this idea of morality. Any other authority that is to decide what is moral for the individual is corrupt. But note that for Jews and Muslims, it is of paramount importance. What results from that? https://archive.macleans.ca/article/1948/1/15/the-...

      I just want to say that Carl Jung - in his theories of the introvert and extrovert - showed Freud that he was essentially perverted, which is why Freud called Carl Jung "anti-Semitic."

      From the dawn of this republic men and women of youth have engaged in pre-marital sex. (I note on one of your hubs you wrote that the '50's was an innocent time where many were happy and did not engage in adultery. Not so! In fact it was one of the most adulterous decades in America!!) But my point is that - as children who grew up FREE to decide whom they will serve - we Christians (most of us anyway) did away with those childish things, since our morality is shaped by God, not by other men.

      Yung said as much the same thing. And note that the Secular Left in this country and the Muslim share that same desire for control of the person. What they do not realize is that it will result in GREATER perversion than anything we have yet seen.

      Just had to say that because you had not responded to my comment and you're invited to delete it if you want. But Jung had a lot to say on what produces a pervert like Freud. I think it was Plato who also concluded that the PRUDE and the PERVERT have the same mind. Jung elaborated on this in his writings. So true! If we do away with freedom, we do away with God's personal intervention.

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      Cynthia Taggart 

      6 months ago from New York, NY

      Yes, James, Jung studied the occult and his theory of the "introvert" and "extrovert" come from his experience as you write here. One is reminded of the statue of St. Bruno, which Jung mentioned in his writings, which is here.

      https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&sa=1&am...

      St. Bruno is holding a skull - the "dark shadow" - that we all have inside. Jung theorizes that we seek psychic balance in life and that to the extent we are not conscious of our wrongs, the dark side of our natures makes its appearance. There is truth to this, that the "devil" or demonic is usually knocking on our unconscious to right our wrongs. We KNOW what is wrong, and Jung's archetypes - the other theory he is responsible for - come from his belief in a collective unconscious, which is why the "cross" is a "universal" archetype for all mankind.

      The statue of St. Bruno holding a skull is symbolic of the unconscious darkness of our souls that could envelop us without use of our minds, hearts and souls for God. Interestingly, his study of all religions makes the cross a very strong "archetype," which is why Christ's death on it resonates deeply in our unconscious, even for non-believers. That is because other religions teach the four quadrants of the cross as being related to "harmony" and "peace" within the soul. In those other religions, balance between the four quadrants - symbolized as either fire, water, wind and sun, or mind, body, heart and soul, become as "one" and the aspirant who achieves that balance would become a great warrior or hunter, or at "one" with God.

      So isn't it such a marvelous response God has given us when He gave Himself on that cross, to forever quash man's ability to make himself good? Christ dies on the cross and the message is: Except thru me you will not find "wholeness" or peace in your souls.

      Jung's writings taught me that the psyche does indeed seek that wholeness, but he neglected to expound on the reality that God, by putting himself on the cross, communicates in the most humble and mind-blowing way a love that man can NEVER find in his journey, and that balance or wholeness, or love, he is seeking in his deep unconscious unless he reciprocates his love for God, which is by - simple belief and reciprocated love through Jesus Christ.

      So Jung's study in alchemy and the occult may have its ugly dimensions for some, but taken as whole, what he provided is an understanding of how deep our unconscious is and how it can destroy a person if they do not recognize that the darkness within them is a calling, not to embrace it, which is death, but to look at what it is trying to reveal about one's character. But not everyone who hears that knock will turn from it, but the consequences of that will be felt by them.

      The devil cannot do anything without God's approval. But the comforting thing to keep in mind is that if one is confounded by demonic forces, they can take heart that it is God who is knocking as well.

      Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loves He chastens,

      And scourges every son whom He receives.”

      If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.

      God can handle sin and Jesus can carry it, no matter how ugly it is. The love is amazing, so powerful. God's choice of the cross - and the archetype it is as expressed by Jung is from God.

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      James A Watkins 

      6 months ago from Chicago

      Vivian Coblentz ~ Thank you for reading my work. Your comments are profound. You mentioned that your college professor "failed to mention his utterly diabolical side." That is exactly why I wrote this article.

      Isn't it a shame that government schools are filled with social workers and therapists and all sorts of people who do not teach. As you said perfectly well, "Labeling kids seems to make them exempt from having to demonstrate any form of self-control. Schools also get money for all these labels too from the state, so it feeds on itself."

      Amen and Amen!

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      James A Watkins 

      6 months ago from Chicago

      Thank you for that link, Cynthia Taggart. I like the way you put this: "God created Jung as a force to diminish Freud's theories, and to reinforce the reality of God as real and if it weren't for him, atheism would have dominated entirely all psychoanalytic theory. Thank you Carl Jung!"

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      James A Watkins 

      6 months ago from Chicago

      Cynthia Taggart ~ I actually do give Jung a few paragraphs in the newest book I have written: "The great Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung was deeply into the Occult and wrote of visitations he had from demons that menaced and frightened him horribly, while also teaching him what became his theories.

      "He wrote about this in his Red Book but his family withheld that work from publication until forty years after his death. Jung said about what he learned from these demons: “Everything else is to be derived from this. It began at that time, and the later details hardly matter anymore. My entire life consisted in elaborating what had burst forth from the unconscious and flooded me like an enigmatic stream and threatened to break me.”

      "What did Carl Jung learn from the spirit guides of the other world? “Our unconscious existence is the real one and our conscious world a kind of illusion.”

      "A proud Buddhist could not have said it better. Jung said his personal spirit guide was named Philemon, who would appear and disappear quickly and without warning. Over time, Jung began to admire Philemon and it is from him that he learned the major ideas that still affect the world today a great deal.

      "Late in life Jung admitted that he didn’t know what the ‘soul’ is—even though the word ‘psychology’ means the study of it."

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      James A Watkins 

      6 months ago from Chicago

      Awdur ~ Thank you, my dear, for your lovely laudations on this article. I am well pleased at your response. And you really get it, as evidenced by your remarkable remark: "How telling...... confession without penance."

      JJRBJ

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      James A Watkins 

      6 months ago from Chicago

      T ~ Thank you so much for taking the time to read my article. In answer to your question, I would say the first word that comes to mind is 'evil.'

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      Vivian Coblentz 

      6 months ago

      I never knew Freud was so evil! Wow! I remember taking Psychology in college and the professor spending a lot of time discussing his theories. She failed to mention his utterly diabolical side! Truly, he was an agent of satan, and you're so right that psychology has tried to replace salvation.

      I liked this line too: "Calling people diseased denies them responsibility as moral agents with free will." I see this in my kids' elementary school. The school has a "behavioral unit" that grows bigger and bigger every year. When I was a kid, there was always one bad apple, but no one else had "issues." Now, schools label kids as "emotionally challenged," "behaviorally challenged," having "impulse issues," etc. Labeling kids seems to make them exempt from having to demonstrate any form of self-control. Schools also get money for all these labels too from the state, so it feeds on itself.

      Great article, as always.

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      Cynthia Taggart 

      6 months ago from New York, NY

      Wonderful piece on Freud. His counterpart, Jung, must be your next hub. Jung shattered Freud's ego, which is why they parted as friends after 5 years.

      Quote from link to article. Contrary to Freud, "Religion in Jung’s view was a necessary part of the individuation process, and offered a method of communication between humans. This was based upon the idea that the archetypes and symbols present in many of the different religions all translate into the same meanings. Although he did not practice a specific religion, Jung was curious and explored religions from the archetypal view point, particularly Eastern philosophies and religions. During the arguments and correspondence between Freud and Jung, Freud accused Jung of anti-Semitism."

      https://www.harleytherapy.co.uk/counselling/freud-...

      There is dispute about Jung being Christian. Some believe at the end of his life he became a believer. He definitely believed in God, however. But his study of various religions and The New Testament, and his writings about the collective unconscious bring out the "psychic" changes that manifest within the heart and mind of one who follows a more spiritual course. It was Jung who, when he met Bill W. (founder of Alcoholic's Anonymous) in a mental hospital in the years prior to Bill's founding of AA and sobriety, told him that his addiction could ONLY be cured by following a more spiritual path in life.

      While Christians (including myself) criticize Jung on his "ecumenical" work in religions, his work nonetheless challenged Freud's atheistic theories. Christians should read his works because they amazingly make a scientific case for the existence of God, and the use of our psyche when we "let go" and "let God," to "surrender." God created Jung as a force to diminish Freud's theories, and to reinforce the reality of God as real and if it weren't for him, atheism would have dominated entirely all psychoanalytic theory. Thank you Carl Jung!

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      Awdur 

      6 months ago from Chicago

      "Confession is liberation and that is the cure. The Catholics knew it for centuries. I boldly substituted myself for the confessor.”

      How telling...... confession without penance.

      Interesting and "illuminating". Beautifully written.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      6 months ago from now on

      So knowing all this about the man known as "The founder of psychoanalysis" what does that suggest about the practice of psychoanalysis?

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