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UPSC Mains New Pattern Change from 2013 - Chairman

Updated on November 5, 2012

We know that the results of Alagh Committee Report have already testified the second ARC Report. UPSC is only a year away from much talked about change in Mains Exam pattern of the most coveted exam of the Nation i.e. Civil Services Mains. This was informed to media by Chairman D P Agarwal in disguised tone saying, "Change is Inevitable". He also said, "UPSC has already constituted a panel to look into the matter. Its report is expected to come out early next year. It is most likely to be in effect from 2013." He was attending the felicitation function of Rajasthan Technical University, Kota on March 4, 2012.

It must be noted that the changes in the Prelim pattern have already been implemented in the year 2011 amid mixed reactions. Doing away with optional in prelims was welcomed by almost all the students but the introduction of new syllabus in the form of CSAT led to disappointments in some sections of aspirants. This surely helped the science and engineering graduates. humanities students had to bite the dust and adjust to the conditions. Another section which was disappointed with the CSAT was the set of people who had already made several unsuccessful attempts. Some of them even skipped the exam looking to save an attempt.

The Mains pattern change is sure to bring these kinds of of reactions. This time however, UPSC is looking to level the playing field for everyone. There will be backlashes from the people who have written the exam under old pattern because of their difficulty to adjust. On the whole, the change is going to bring more equality, rationality and simplicity to the Civil Services(UPSC) Exams.

Why in 2013 only and not 2012?

As informed by the Chairman DP Agarwal, two successive committees (Alagh committee and 2nd ARC) have recommended the pattern change in clear terms. These reports are already out in public. Since there is very small time gap for the 2012 exam, it is neither prudent nor practical to rush the change right away. Moreover, a high level panel has been set-up to finalize the details of new syllabus and pattern in December, 2011. From the tone of UPSC Chairman, it is almost certain that he wants to see it implemented as soon as possible.

What will be the magnitude of change?

The details of the subjects have not been finalized yet. Therefore, any data which is available on this subject will be based on speculations. One thing is certain though, that the optional subjects will be phased out of the exam. The suggestion about removing of optional subjects date back to 2008 when second Administrative Reforms Committee presented its report. Second ARC had suggested that UPSC should only keep two compulsory GS papers and an essay paper for Mains Examination. It also suggested that there should not be any optional subject.

Current Mains pattern consists of 2 General Studies Papers and 4 optional subjects Papers (2 each). These 6 papers constitute 1800 marks (300 by 6). there is an Essay Paper and Personal Interview as well of 200 and 300 marks each. These all constitute 2300 Marks. There is also a qualifying paper in an Indian Language.

The estimates say that the pattern will be similar to the General Studies but the number of papers will be increased and every subject of GS will form a separate paper in new format. The table below will give you an idea of the new and old pattern of Mains Exam.

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OLD PATTERN MAINS PAPERS  
NEW PATTERN MAINS PAPERS  
STATUS  
GENERAL STUDIES I
CURRENT EVENTS OF NATIONAL IMPORTANCE
-changed-
GENERAL STUDIES II
INDIAN CULTURE & HISTORY
-changed-
FIRST OPTIONAL I
GEOGRAPHY OF INDIA
-changed-
FIRST SUBJECT II
INDIAN ECONOMY
-changed-
SECOND OPTIONAL I
GENERAL SCIENCE
-changed-
SECOND OPTIONAL II
INDIAN POLITY AND INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS
-changed-
ESSAY
ESSAY
-same-
INDIAN LANGUAGE
INDIAN LANGUAGE
-same-
PERSONAL NTERVIEW
PERSONAL INTERVIEW
-same
UPSC MAINS - EXPECTED PATTERN FROM 2013

Which Pattern do you prefer?

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Why is it Required?

This is a million dollar question. The need to change the pattern by removing the optional subjects in mains and replacing them with the relevant compulsory subjects is being voiced by experts from a long time. Even UPSC is committed to doing it. Let us see what are the factors which makes this change inevitable:

  1. To Bring Rationality:- The candidates should be tested for their suitability as a Civil Servant and not as a source of information. Thus, only those subjects need to be tested which will give a fair idea of their Administrative Skills.
  2. To Bring Equity:- Since all the candidates will write the same papers, their answers will be evaluated on the same standards. This will bring people from all backgrounds to the same platform.
  3. To Remove Redundancies:- The pattern of testing of candidates in their graduation subjects has no use. Their subject-wise academic knowledge can be easily checked from their degree mark sheets.
  4. To Bring simplicity:- The current system is somewhat complex with varying level of difficulties and evaluations. Some of the subjects become favorites of candidates because of their high success rates. These factors consume a lot of energies of the aspirants. This will be done away with.


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      umesh mahto 5 years ago

      this is best for general students. we also accept it.

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      VIvekkumar Joshi 4 years ago

      http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx

      This link clears all rumours about changes in civil service mains.Respective minister clearlly denied changes since 2013.Please check the 25 April 2012 release note of ministry of personnel.

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      Atish Kumar 4 years ago

      which is the best hons. subject in arts that ll be useful for IAS examination from 2013??

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Hi Vivek,

      Thank you for your inputs. But I couldn't find anything related to "UPSC" or "Civil Services" in the link that you provided. Please check it out.

      -Gurpreet

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      mahindra 4 years ago

      Changes in Civil Services Exam

      There is no proposal to introduce changes in the Main Examination of the Civil Services Examination, at present. However, Union Public Service Commission (UPSC) has appointed a committee of experts, headed by Prof. Arun S. Nigavekar, Ex. Chairman, UGC, to review the existing structure of Civil Services (Main) examination and suggest necessary changes.

      Also there is no proposal to increase the number of attempts for all candidates appearing in Civil Services Examination conducted by UPSC.

      This was stated by Shri V. Narayanasamy, Minister of State in the Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and PMO in a written reply in Lok Sabha today.

      RS/SR

      (Release ID :82574)

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      debashis 4 years ago

      In the new pattern compulsory subjects

      GEOGRAPHY OF INDIA

      INDIAN ECONOMY

      GENERAL SCIENCE

      INDIAN POLITY AND INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS

      are these all fixed, commerce , math, physics, public Administration, management will not be in the list

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Hi Debashis,

      This is not fixed. It is a speculation which is more near to rumor than fact. Real decisions are being decided behind closed doors with rumors trickling through gape holes. You are advised to not base your decisions on this information. Just be informed that this change is speculated.

      -Gurpreet

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      anwar 4 years ago

      is cs mains going to be objective?

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      >>>>is cs mains going to be objective?

      This is not possible in the near future.

      -Gurpreet

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      divya 4 years ago

      In case of the mains syllabus change, will the number of attempts also increase?

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Perhaps the previous count will come down to zero. i.e your previous attempts will not be counted.

      -Gurpreet

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      Lata 4 years ago

      As per this statement,(Perhaps the previous count will come down to zero. i.e your previous attempts will not be counted.) Do u mean that if a person has given 3 attempts already and 2013 is his final attempt, he still has 4 attempts active?

      Please do reply. It means a lot to me.

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      it is good to hear. probly it will be very useful for the person study forg gk in every day, this is the right option for candidates 4 years ago

      hai civil service aspirants, it is happy to hear, this will be a right option for civil service service aspirants as well as. the person hes study usually gk .news papers in every day, thanks a lot for new changes by upsc government by saravan

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      Falki 4 years ago

      old way for conducting exams is best while doing so students get the chance to opt. subject of his/her interest which is not possible in case of new pattern. Moreover, it become easy task for arts students only.

      one suggestion:please include Computer Science in Optional Subject for main IAS exams.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Yes, it can happen if the pattern changes.

      -Gurpreet

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      preeti 4 years ago

      Has there been a precedence of such sort where the chances were reset by upsc?

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      It is a speculation which is not highly expected. There has been such precedence in Govt Exams where syllabus was changed entirely. One such example is Departmental Examination for Income Tax Department.

      -Gurpreet

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      ASHESH KUMAR CHAUDHARY 4 years ago

      Govt.should clear the new pattern of main exam well in advance.Confusion must be washed out so that serious student may start their preparation from august -sept 2012

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      netrajit 4 years ago

      I think upsc should announce the change well in advance, would give ample time to adapt to the change,

      Sir please tell me if this change is inevitable, then what should be our strategy, i m giving 1st attempt in 2014, should i not prepare optional till change is confirmed. please help

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      deepak harit 4 years ago

      I have been studying philosophy as one of the chosen subject for last two years, now it seems vain, do i need to be disappointed for this ? pls guide me.

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      Ruhitha 4 years ago

      The changes in the pattern are good but is it just a speculation or we need to work on it. Please guide.

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      Pankaj 4 years ago

      Mains pattern not changing......

      CHECK UPSC calender 2013.....

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      I agree with u ashesh

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Hi Netrajit,

      The hope is fading that the UPSC will announce changes. Anyway, since you are preparing for 2014, start with compulsory topics. Choose Modern India, Constitution, Polity etc to start with.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Hi Deepak,

      Don't despair. Since nothing has been announced yet, you may continue with philosophy for one more year. Looks like UPSC is in no haste to announce changes this year.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Ruhitha,

      It is more of a ubiquitous thought and not a mere speculation. However, when they are announced is very important. Keep them in mind but don't depend on them.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Pankaj,

      This pattern can go on for one more year. It is an intelligent thought but you can't depend on calendars for amendments.

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      navin 4 years ago

      hi gurpreet

      why has SSC CGLE grp been disabled ??

      there were a lot of questions by aspirants......

      hope u get it back soon ......

      thanks

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Hi Navin,

      There is a bandwidth problem. The Web space infrastructure is insufficient to handle the load. There is a cap on monthly bandwidth and the site gets down by the middle of every month.

      -Gurpreet

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      navin 4 years ago

      thanks for answering...

      so in how many days it will be back??

      for once,i thought u were no longer in mood to answer the questions related to SS CGL :p

      Best of luck for ur mains !!!!

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Site is up again. But it is limited by bandwidth. I will have to remove some stuff or restrict traffic.

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      manoj 4 years ago

      upsc should cleared new pattern of main exam.

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      Rahul 4 years ago

      According to highly reliable source,the announcement of main pattern change will be by the end of October.More importantly,all candidates will be given chance afresh.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Hi Rahul,

      Thanks for the information. I hope that the suspense over the matter should end ASAP.

      -Gurpreet

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      priya 4 years ago

      it seems the change will not happen... there hasn't been any indication from upsc and all coaching institutes are denying it.

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      Vivek 4 years ago

      Reasons why it may change:

      1. When news for pre change came way back in 2010 (notification in 2011) it also mentioned about mains change in 2013. Two years lag so that aspirants get accustomed with the changed pre pattern first.

      Also in various interviews this is being endorsed rather that rebuffed by UPSC chairman D P Agarwal.

      2. Huge gap between Pre and mains (5 months and 21 days) is allegedly for resolving any implementation issues that may arise of the changed syllabus. At present they just have to come up with 1 page syllabus for Feb 2013.

      3. UPSC DP agarwal sent out a clear signal in March 2012 when he said "change is inevitable" and "mostly" changed mains pattern will be implemented in 2013. So unless something really bad happens it would be implemented in 2013 (interview RTU, Kota: March 4, 2012). [url]http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-0...[/url]

      4. Tenure of UPSC chairman D P Agarwal is being extended to 2013 allegedly for the Mains pattern change implementation.

      5. Y.K. Alagh Committee and ARC had already recommended it's report to do away with mains optionals. Moving ahead, a high level panel has been set-up to finalize the details of new syllabus and pattern in December, 2011. This panel is looking into the minute details of what should be the syllabus and how it will be implemented.

      Reasons given by people why it can't change:

      1. Exam calendar for 2013 has been displayed and it shows mains having 21 days just like previous years.

      Rebuttal : Just below the schedule it is also mentioned in red "THE DATES OF NOTIFICATION AND COMMENCEMENT OF EXAMINATIONS/ RTs ARE LIABLE TO ALTERATION, IF THE CIRCUMSTANCES SO WARRANT.

      TO ALTERATION, IF THE CIRCUMSTANCES SO WARRANT."

      Also it may still extend to 21 days with the same number of papers but with different syllabus replacing optionals and changing GS.

      2.In an answer in Rajya Sabha on whether pattern will change, the reply was no change.

      Reply mentioned "no change, at present" and said a committee has been appointed to look into pattern change. If you file an RTI Application to UPSC you would get the same response "no change at present" even 1 day before they officially announce it. [url]http://164.100.47.132/lssnew/psearch/QResult15.asp...[/url]

      3. Once it submits its report it must be accepted by upsc and then sent to DoPPP for advertisement. This may take time especially in case UPSC does not accept few recommendations or wants more clarity on some issues. It may become really hectic to implement it in 2013 in that situation.

      On the other hand if D P Agarwal wanted it to be implemented in 2013 then he must have defined the perimeter for the committee well and would be in constant contact to see that the recommendations are actually in line. It will surely be a prestige issue for him. He would definitely not like the new upsc chairman to get the limelight of the work done completely and aggressively by him.

      My inference: By December end 2012 if you do not get any information from UPSC then expect 2013 to be the same. Proper notification will come in Feb but whether it is changing or not may be declared earlier. And yes I am little biased towards pattern change in 2013.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Very well summed up Vivek. I have no reason to differ with you. It should be understood by all that the wheels of change are on the move, whether they move fast or slow is the point.

      -Gurpreet

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      Teesha 4 years ago

      Hey, am new here.. I am a budding aspirant for upsc exams. I really wana share that i read it somewhere ki the pattern for civil services ias exam won't change for now. So i hope am helpful... any of u enrolled for http://www.wiziq.com/course/7109-upsc-civil-servic... ? i liked this course simple hai samajhne mein

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      Tara Ratnam 4 years ago

      Not only pattern change,there will also be reduction in age limit and attempts.Everything will be in effect from 2013 because-

      1-The accepted ARC 12th report recommendations were finally approved by GoM in January 2012.Except the recommendation regarding civil services all other accepted recommendations are in the active process of implementation.Regarding age there will be about 2 year grace period as per norms.As for attempts,all will be given fresh chances as happened after Kothari commission(1979).There can't be two changes(pattern and age/attempt) in two different years due to policy inconvenience.

      2-Due to fragility of UPA ,govt can't afford to delay implementation of the decision.

      3-2014 is election year.No new policy are usually announced on the eve of election due to political and legal implications.

      4-A number of petitions in HCs and apex court are poised to screw UPSC's existing method.

      5-When a high power Expert Committee submits its report,its implementation is imminent.

      5-Last,but not the least,DPA is the longest serving chairperson of UPSC.He initiated the reforms process.He would be hell bent on completing in his illustrious tenure.

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      Tara Ratnam 4 years ago

      The expert committee has already submitted its report on 31st August according to an RTI reply.

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      kamlesh 4 years ago

      kya Hindi Medium ke students ke liye or tough ho jayega

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      Devesh tripathi 4 years ago

      For old student the change syllabubs is now bad.

      With Regards

      Devesh Tripathi

      Allahbad

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      It is already tough for hindi Students because o the unavailability of Materials.

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      shakeel ahmad 4 years ago

      mains exam should be change becouse due to modern erra

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @shakeel : Definitely shakeel ji

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      Tara Ratnam 4 years ago

      http://persmin.gov.in/DOPT/Acts_Rules/AIS_Rules/Re...

      This rule was amended in 1990 to give fresh attempts to all candidates after some reforms.As the forthcoming patter change is radical,all candidates will be given fresh attempts for sure in accordance with Article 14 and 16.

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      netrajit 4 years ago

      @ Tara Ratnam-

      thanks for the info

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      Tara Ratnam 4 years ago

      http://forumias.com/uploads/FileUpload/e5/9623f973...

      This RTI reply gives clear indication of pattern change from 2013.But the notification may be delayed.

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      Rahul 4 years ago

      Guys,you you don't want anyone to be victimized by UPSC irregularities,please sign this petition.

      http://www.change.org/petitions/irregularities-in-...

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Signed. do join guys.

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      Rahul 4 years ago

      The speculation about pattern change will be set at rest on 6th Dec. as a question on this is to be answered by PMO in Rajyasabha

      http://164.100.47.5/EDAILYQUESTIONS/sessionno/227/...

      The following question has been listed as an unstarrted question in Rajya Sabha on 6th December 2012 regarding changes in UPSC Examination:

      Proposed changes in UPSC

      examination

      1480. SHRI AVINASH PANDE: Will

      the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to

      state:

      (a) whether Government is aware of the

      proposed changes in the Union Public

      Service Commission (UPSC) examination;

      (b) the reasons for these changes;

      (c) in what manner this affects the

      UPSC aspirants; and

      (d) in what manner the proposed

      changes expects to address the problems

      with the existing system?

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      anirban 4 years ago

      new syllabus for ias

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      Vivek 4 years ago

      Recent update on UPSC mains pattern.

      Prof. Nigavekar Committee’s Report submitted to UPSC in Aug 2012

      and UPSC has forwarded the same with recommendations to the Government on 31.10.2012. So looks like pattern change is on its way in 2012.

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      yunus 4 years ago

      is there any new update friends??

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      yunus 4 years ago

      http://164.100.47.4/newrsquestion/ShowQn.aspx

      this link states:

      GOVERNMENT OF INDIA

      MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL,PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS

      RAJYA SABHA

      QUESTION NO 1480

      ANSWERED ON 06.12.2012

      Proposed changes in UPSC examination

      1480 SHRI AVINASH PANDE

      Will the Minister of PERSONNEL,PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS be pleased to satate :-

      (a) whether Government is aware of the proposed changes in the Union Public Service Commission (UPSC) examination;

      (b) the reasons for these changes;

      (c) in what manner this affects the UPSC aspirants; and

      (d) in what manner the proposed changes expects to address the problems with the existing system?

      ANSWER

      Minister of State in the Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pensions and Minister of State in the Prime Minister’s Office. (SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY)

      (a) & (b): The Union Public Service Commission (UPSC) have submitted a proposal to the Central Government suggesting certain changes in the existing scheme of Civil Services (Main) Examination to make it more relevant with the present day, global as well as internal scenario on the basis of the report of a committee, constituted by the Commission under the chairmanship of Prof. Arun S.Nigavekar, former Chairman, University Grants Commission (UGC).

      (c) & (d): Till now, no decision has been taken by the Government on these recommendations

      *****

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      Rahul 4 years ago

      I again come to know from a highly credible source that pattern is going to be changed from 2013.It is a done deal now.As the formalities are being fulfilled by amending various rules ,it is taking time.So just wait for the notification,Guys.

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      guruprasad g.l, bangalore 4 years ago

      Mr Rahul, it the above true will it be from 2013 itself

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      Rahul 4 years ago

      @Guruprasad

      I believe my source and I strongly believe the new pattern will be in place from 2013 itself.Just wait for a few more days.

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      4 years ago

      so as a new student ,should we delay our preparation to wait for their decision ?

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      Rahul 4 years ago

      Why wait for the notification?You can keep your prelims preparation in full swing?

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      Avinash Gaddam 4 years ago

      Upsc mains change 2013 will surely happen... Chattisgarh also changed its pattern drastically and gave a new notification a week ago w.r.t its state civil services examination

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      Rahul 4 years ago

      The decision about the pattern change at both state and national levels was taken at the annual meeting of chairpersons of Public Service Commissions early this year.So it is in active process of implementation.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      No use delaying prep. Go for GS part of the syllabus because that is there to stay.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @Avinash: Great

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      Sameer Nevse 4 years ago

      In S.I.A.C.(State Institute for Administrative Careers),Mumbai funded by Govt of Maharashtra for UPSC preparation it has been announced that, the pattern for main examination will change from 2013 itself.

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      Md Sadruzzaman 4 years ago from Patna, India

      probable papers (all compulsory) according to new pattern:

      what is total marks and each subject marks???

      and only OBJECTIVE type question / SUBJECTIVE type question??

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Marks shall be equal for each subject. Mains exams will not be objective.

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      Nalin 4 years ago

      The last paragraph of this news says about UPSC pattern change from 2013.

      http://www.amarujala.com/page.php?c=uttar-pradesh&...

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      Nalin 4 years ago

      At this conference,it was decided about pattern change at both state and national levels.

      http://www.upsc.gov.in/general/rti/s-ii/speech9_10...

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      Deepak.s achar 4 years ago

      my self i started my preparation when i completed my +2 , but still there is some choas and confusions about the new pattern of the mains. and it is best for upsc to promulgate about the new pattern to the aspirants and it is the one of suitable pattern and also make civil servant students as more as advance than before .

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      jaya vardhan 4 years ago

      Definitely there will be change in 2013 because they gave one month more time for mains

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      Balkrishna Limbu, Darjeeling 4 years ago

      okay its fine with its change for mains examination but why they are not displaying all the subjects that we need to prepare for it????? Is it sure or just a rumor????

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      vivek 4 years ago

      MAINS PATTERN CHANGING IN 2013 ...100%...Got the news and it's from one right in the top.

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      Rahul 4 years ago

      thanks Vivek for giving the information.

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      MOONMOON 4 years ago

      i m happy with this new pattern

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      Amit 4 years ago

      You must have seen the pattern of chattishgarh

      pcs .chances are high that it will change I am in

      favor of new one dedicated study of eight

      months and you can sail not like old one which

      wad long journey

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      sachin 4 years ago

      get ready for new pattern......

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      priya 4 years ago

      what about the attempts? will they give fresh attempts as well??

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      mohit 4 years ago

      upsc has postponed the notification date for civil services exam indefinitely. Vivek, do you think this has been done in view of the new pattern ?

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      ramesh 4 years ago

      thanks friend s for your information overall we have to except the change and have to focus on our study

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      amit 4 years ago

      friends.... pattern is going to change.... thr wud be 6 papers.... no optional.....no language paper.... only 6 GS paper

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      Jacob 4 years ago

      How you know Amit? Any idea what the papers will be?

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      monster 4 years ago

      How do u know

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      Abhinrao 4 years ago

      @amit.. thanks for the info. But could you tell from when would the pattern change ('13 or '14)? My friend from vajiram was told that pattern change would take place from 2014, due to time constraints etc. Plz bear with my skeptical enquiry. Thanks.

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      Ryan 4 years ago

      Don't know whether this information to be trusted or not but I have heard from a reliable source(sorry can't disclose) that this delay is for conducting of Prelims in Online mode like CAT and other exams. The removal of optionals will be from 2014. But still nothing is certain... so don't take it final... me too an aspirant like you all...

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      shiv 4 years ago

      new pattern is better than old one because everybody has to attend the same subject its good for student as well as UPSC. but i suggest that mains also have objective one except essay and all. thanks

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      dipali 4 years ago

      i am planning to appear for civil exam in 2014. only the optional papers will be changed or the compulsory like language and essay along with english will get changed?

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      Ryan 4 years ago

      Dipali,

      As of now nothing is certain , there are only assumptions and rumors , till the time the UPSC notification doesn't come out nothing can be said with surety. They may keep Lang paper , they may not or they may merge it in one. Essay is here to stay as we have heard. All I can suggest you is to start with NCERT textbooks and work on the basics.

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      dipali 4 years ago

      Ryan,

      Thanx for the information.

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      nipendra 4 years ago

      Dear sir, i want information about relaxation of upper age limit will be increase, if new pattern is recommended by the ARC committee for UPSC 2013. i am already completed 30 year age and all four attempt in year 2012.

      please reply eagerly i m waiting..............

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      Ryan 4 years ago

      Nipendra,

      This year they may give relaxation it's just a rumor , last year in Indian Engineering Service exams they changed the cut off Age date from August to January which may be a possibility this year in CSE exams as the pattern change possibility is making rounds. So hope for the best. meanwhile HT has come up with a latest news about pattern change check it out (though your query will only be answered in notification) http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/...

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      Dipali 4 years ago

      I heard from somewhere that the age limit would go up to 32 instead of 30. well i guess its speculation or just a rumor,better to wait for the official announcement.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @Dipali: Increasing the age limit is perhaps not on the agenda..

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      Dipali 4 years ago

      Gurpreet,

      Just a related update.

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      amit 4 years ago

      @dipali. where u got this update from? I mean from a reliable source.. or some friend hoping upsc increase age and spreading rumors :)

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      sujeet 4 years ago

      this should not happen all of them should get an equal opportunity;

      arts,commerce,engineering,etc... should get an equal chance

      so optional subjects should be included

      this could be injustice to manyyyyyyyy

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      Jai 4 years ago

      Good the optionals are scarped out . Looking forward to the new pattern . Most of the Engineering and Medicinal Students are taking subjects like Pub.Ad ,Sociology, Physcology,History , Geography etc which are relatively new subjects to them .

      So scraping out options is no way an injustice its only a positive and a welcoming change .

      P.s I am an Engineering graduate who has taken Pub.Ad and Geo as optionals and i have written mains twice and unable to clear mains cause of the difficulty that i face in optionals and not so much in GS.

      So i really really looking forward for this change of pattern and its gonna reduce a lot of load on the preparation front.

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      sukhpreet 4 years ago

      general studies weight age increased from 600 to 1200

      while optional decreased from 1200 to 600

      notification will come by week

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      amit 4 years ago

      @sukhpreet - where u got this info from

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      nisha 4 years ago

      @ sukhpreet what about fresh attempts to all candidates?

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      amit 4 years ago

      @ nisha - Following is the update on the pattern change:

      4 GS papers ( 300 marks each ) - 1200

      2 optional papers (300 marks each) - 600

      one essay -200

      Total 2000 marks.

      The above structure may be the result of last moment 'reforms' ( Changes )initiated by the government..

      Age and Attempt related discussions are not on the platter.. :) and government has not constituted any panel or experts team to look into this.

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      parinaya sharma 4 years ago

      i m happy now with this new pattern we,ll have a crystal clear competition and all those language and subject dependent idiots will be screwed..hahahahahahaha.

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      amit 4 years ago

      Update:

      date of notification - 9th march

      Examination date - 26th may 2013

      IFS and CS will have a common prelim paper.

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      amit 4 years ago

      Nd there are no changes in the edibility conditions

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      aditya 4 years ago

      @amit: don't spread rumours....mention the reliable source

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      Gaurav Singh7 4 years ago

      From where you people brought these news? Anyway, thanks for providing the much awaited news provided it turns out to be true. :)

      Honestly saying, i am not happy with the coming pattern especially when it is going to be implemented from 2013 itself (For, i will be taking the test for the first time this year and i was quite comfortable with the old pattern). Also, the old pattern was giving level playing field to 'everyone' as i think. What are the optional subjects, whether these are optional or compulsory to all?

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      abhi 4 years ago

      date of notification of CS 2013- 9th march 2013

      date of prelims- 26th may 2013

      have a look at this- http://ifs.nic.in/main/New Scheme_IFSE2013.pdf

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      satya 4 years ago

      any one help mehow started study ias fight

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      Ryan 4 years ago

      There is no point in reducing the optionals from 4 to 2 either they should scrap it altogether or should not change the pattern at all. The state Public service commissions who have changed the pattern e.g. Rajasthan have completely removed the optionals. RAS will be having one prelims paper and 4 GS papers now. What's gone wrong with UPSC guys. Waiting for 9th March...

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      priya 4 years ago

      sir could u please tell me if both the optionals are still their or only one optional will be there as per the changes assented to by the PM...plz help with the expected date of notification..

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      Gaurav Singh 4 years ago

      Both of the optionals will remain there subject to the reduction of their weighage.

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      priya 4 years ago

      but nowhere it has been stated that both the optionals will be there

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      suri 4 years ago

      @ sukhpreet what about fresh attempts to all candidates?

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Great Data mining. Will wait till 9th march.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Fingers Crossed. Wait for the Notification till 9th.

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      Gaurav Singh 4 years ago

      Apart from the boys telling above, it is stated in a newspaper as seen by me in an indirect way that in the new pattern greater importance would be given to both the papers of GS. News about the fate of optionals is nowhere written in the article. Hence, it is understood that they would remain there.

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      nisha 4 years ago

      The notification with the new pattern is coming out tomorrow. 1200 marks GS and 600 marks optionals.

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      VIRAT 4 years ago

      THE BEST WHICH THING WHICH SHOULD HAVE DONE BEFORE THE NEW SYLLABUS WILL BRING UP THE CANDIDATES WITH BEST KNOWLEDGE AND ALSO REMOVED THE DISCRIMINATION TO EVERY FIELD STUDENT

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      virat 4 years ago

      age limit,and attempts hv been discussed,dpa fought fiercely with the govt on this matter,but govt refused to budge,instead there was discussion on whether to increase no of attempts for those who still hv not reached their upper age limit irrespective of category.That's why there is so much of a delay.1st of august could be changed to 1st of jan like engineering service as there are many grieviences received by grienvance redressal cell.My source who works at higher position in DOPT had informed me.one optional is certainly go.and there would not be any reduction in no of attempts or age,instead there is possiblity of increase by 2 for both cases.

      Now if this happens guys then god only can save us from experienced guys who hv appeared many times and can clear at least pre with a lot of ease,so I would suggest you to tie ur belts to the chair and study till ur close to death.. best of luck.

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      rahul 4 years ago

      @virat

      what is the new pattern? has graduation subject been made compulsory?

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      virat 4 years ago

      subjects divded into grps out of which you hav to chose an optionl depnding on graduation disciple.humanities /languages/sc and engineerng/commerce

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      sms 4 years ago

      @rahul gaduation subject couldn

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      swati swarup 4 years ago

      i liked new pattern.

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      Gaurav Singh 4 years ago

      I too got the news that there will be only one optional subject.

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      Gaurav Singh 4 years ago

      @Virat, Can you surely say that the '1st August' criteria is going to be changed into '1st January'?

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      virat 4 years ago

      @ gurav,actually ther is a govt circular of 1979, in which it is said that exam which are held in 1st half of a yr then cut off will be 1st of jan,and if 2 half of the yr then cut off will be 2 august .now for the exam like civil services where a part is held in 1st half (pre) and part in 2nd half(mains) then cut off for eligiblity criteria will be 2 aug.further,It can be seeen that IES exam cut off was shifted to 1st of jan reason being that exam is conducted in 1st half of the yr.also from the notification of IFOS exam which is to be held along with civil services all eligiblty criteria including cut off date remains unchanged.but for civil service exam ,they hv included new pattern so govt is thinking on increasing age limit by two yrs hence some in the dopt have opined to shift cut off from 1st of jan to 1st of aug and increase the age by one yr.This is what i know.but i would suggest you do not worry ,whatever will happen will happen for the best

      all the best.

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      amit 4 years ago

      @ virat - i heard this delay is because UPSC was not prepared with the syllabus for optionals as this change was introduced last moment by the government... and there are no discussions regarding age and attempt as no committee has been formed for the same

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      virat 4 years ago

      @amit,what do you say about increase in age and attempts in 1978 and 1990 . was there any proposal from any committee ?

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      Lostwarrior 4 years ago

      Hi Virat...Thanks for sharing the insider info...Well I am one of those unlucky ppl who will not be able to write this year even though I am left with attempts...I will be completing my 30 before the cut off date of 1st Aug...Just praying that your news comes out to be true....

      I shall be thankful if you could confirm that this news is a very recent development or was discussed way bak but couldn't reach to any logical conclusion...As per the latest info, notification may come in a day or two but I haven;t heard any insider info regarding the change of the cut off date...It has been done in the past so hoping for the best.....

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      amit 4 years ago

      @virat - See things were different then. As per the ARC recommendations age and attempt were to be reduced by 2.... it does not look logical to go the other way round..

      Honestly speaking they should make some temporary arrangements for the upsc veterans.. as attempts should be counted on the same scheme of examination.. nd if there are any radical changes the previous attempt should be discounted...

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      amit 4 years ago

      so it depends on whether ur source is reliable or not.. as there have been such rumors since 2011

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      virat 4 years ago

      @ lost warrior ,sorry to hear that u hv reached your age limit.i do not wanna grow any false hope as i cannot assert something wid full authority coz i m not involved in decision making.But trust me this is what had been discussed and was one of the suggestion sent to P.M.But don't kw wether accepted or not.

      @ amit in 2011,only prelims pattern had changed and not the mains pattern.There wasn't any change w.r.t age and attempts coz pre is considered as only screening test and not the test for selection rather considered as test of rejection of non serious candidates.that is why eligiblity criteria has not been change for IFOS .

      @ lost warrior plz don't get disheartened and wait for notification and keep studying - your knowledge will never be wasted..

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      lostwarrior 4 years ago

      Thanks a lot Virat....Yea I am just hoping against the hope...and I trust your words mate....I wish you success....

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      sms 4 years ago

      csp notification out go to upsc

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      Gaurav Singh 4 years ago

      yes, it came.

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      nisha 4 years ago

      hmmmm... no relaxation in age or attempts...

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      don 4 years ago

      nooo

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @Lostwarrior: You are in, Aug stays.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

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      dev 4 years ago

      so good

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      amit 4 years ago

      @gurpreet.. I dont think lostwarrior is in as there are no changes in the eligibility conditions.. can u elaborate

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      Gaurav Singh 4 years ago

      Yes Gurpreet, i too thought that 'lost warrior' can't give exam (Though, it is sad) after few minutes you wrote. Had it been '1st January', then surely he would be able to fulfill the eligibility criteria.

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      saurav 4 years ago

      what is the meaning of ex serviceman in the UPSC IAS exam for the relaxation in age.

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      saurav 4 years ago

      i am group B officer in education department in state of gujrat but can i come in the ex serviceman for UPSC IAS exam for age relaxation.

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      peety 4 years ago

      has english been made compulsory,what bout hindi,will marks be counted

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      amit 4 years ago

      @ peety. there will be no hindi paper

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      ashwin 4 years ago

      @ amit i mean will there be acompusary english paper ,what bout hindi medium students ,will they hv to write in english ,like precise writing and all..

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      amit 4 years ago

      @ashwin - Yes

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      yogesh 4 years ago

      Equality for all – No injustice will be tolerated

      Upsc has come with the pattern change . It has done great injustice to students to certain section of society. These are as follows,

      1) It has introduced new pattern at the 11th hour, people who have been preparing for last two three years and wasted their 2-3 attempts are at biggest disadvantage because they will get only 1-2 attempts in the new scheme to adjust to it.

      2) English have been included in it though it is up to 10 std only the people from IIM’S and other B schools ,and convent school will have an edge over non English medium .This is great injustice to all Hindi medium students and others.

      Our demands

      1) At least 2 more attempts should be given to all candidates (irrespective of category) .

      2) Age limit should be increase by at least 2 year for all as it happened in 1990 and 1978.

      3) UPSC should disclose its moderation and scaling methods

      4) Cut off marks for prelims should be immediately after prelims result.

      5) Cut off date for age eligibility should be changed from 1st of august to 1st of January of every year.

      We have spoken to Shri Arvindji kejriwal ‘s office on this matter.

      Join in thousands to fight against this in justice.

      Just give your 2 days and see the change

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      amit 4 years ago

      @yogesh - is Arvind Kejriwal interested?

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      UPSC 4 years ago

      sir maine B.tech ki hai iska matlab main IAS main exam me punjabi me nhi likh sakta

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      amit 4 years ago

      @upsc - yadi aap punjabi optional lene ka soch rahe hain to nahi likh sakte

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      UPSC 4 years ago

      @amit --- sir i want to know that may i write all papers in punjabi language except english paper

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      yogesh 4 years ago

      yes i called up to their office and so u can .plz confim it if u don't trust

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      amit 4 years ago

      @yogesh - I trust you.. i just meant.. is he interested?

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      yogesh 4 years ago

      yes he is,but as all politician he said he needs crowd ,now from where to get that ,that's the problem.plz spread the message

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      amit 4 years ago

      @yogesh - It would be better if he can be convinced to file a PIL.. people who identify with you.. will automatically support him. It is a daunting task to collect people in such short notice.

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      yogesh 4 years ago

      Mumbai: Shiv Sena workers on Wednesday staged a protest against the new exam pattern introduced by the Union Public Service Commission and warned, it would disrupt the Commission's exams in the state if its demand to include Marathi in the syllabus was not met.

      "Our demand is that students should have the option of Marathi in the exam. If our demand is not met, we will disrupt UPSC exams in the state," Sena leader Gajanan Kirtikar said.

      Sena workers carried placards, decrying the UPSC for its "anti-Marathi" stance, while formulating the new pattern.

      "We will soon meet UPSC officials in Delhi to put forth our demand," Kirtikar said, while speaking at the protest, held at Hutatma Chowk here.

      The UPSC has notified the new pattern, which will spare candidates from compulsorily qualifying other language papers like Hindi or any of the VIII Schedule languages, which includes Marathi.

      Earlier, candidates had to qualify in English and another language paper whose marks were, however, not counted for shortlisting aspirants.

      The new pattern gives more weight to general studies and aptitude skills. The UPSC has also introduced an English language paper, whose marks will count in final selection of aspirants for services like IAS, IFS, IPS, IRS and other sought after Central jobs.

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      nisha 4 years ago

      @ yogesh can't we all file a writ in the supreme court against violation of our fundamental right under art 14 and art 16? so that the court can also take some concrete step?? also where do you want us to gather in protest? we will be there...

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      yogesh 4 years ago

      we definitely can,I too thought so ,But court takes 2-3 years to take decision.we can try this but our first step shd be to gather media attention.I hv spoken to arvind kejriwal's office they are ready to listen to us.we can print some pamplets regarding this and distribute,then only crowd will gather.

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      nisha 4 years ago

      no, this has happened in Punjab also. A writ was filled and the court stayed the exam... This is a matter of breech of fundamental rights... the court will take immediate action. That is the only authority... staging protests can also be followed up... then upsc wud have to concede...

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      nitin 4 years ago

      UPSC has released the 2013 CSP Notification. As expected, there has been changes in the Main exam pattern. Students are debating whether more attempts will be given to all candidates as probably happened in 1979 and year 1990. You can read more on the links below.

      Sample of a letter by some student to DoPT:

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      “On 5th March, UPSC have notified changes in the Mains Pattern of the Civil Services Exam. While I welcome the changes ushered in by the Commission, I am saddened by complete neglect of the majority stakeholders in this process, the Civil Service aspirants.

      The changes brought about are not incremental but are substantial and these are advantageous to only a section of the aspirant community. Many students would be at a disadvantage as the new pattern does not provide a level playing field to them and it impinges on their right to equality.

      Students from Regional language background would be at a major disadvantage in Paper-I as many would require to put in extra efforts to work on their English language. It would be detrimental to their final rank in the Merit List. Already many of them find it difficult to get through the Preliminary stage due to emphasis on English Comprehension.

      Also, a few students would be in the age group of 28 plus and some would be even 29, which means that they ought to take this exam this year itself as there would be no flexibility. Even if you increase the attempts for these students it may not work in their favor as they would not have the cushion of time to write the exam the next year as they would go beyond the age limit of 31 years.

      In 1979 and 1990 the pattern was changed and DoPT had taken into cognizance the interest of the student community. In 1979, the students were given four fresh attempts while in 1990 the upper age-limit was 31 years. And so I would request you to please consider raising the upper age-limit to 31 years and also giving fresh attempts

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      somnath 4 years ago

      I think we should ponder on the following cases too and request DoPT to consider them:

      1) A few students would be in the age group of 28 plus and some would be even 29, which means that they ought to take this exam this year itself as there would be no flexibility. Even if you increase the attempts for these students it may not work in their favour as they would not have the cushion of time to write the exam the next year as they would go beyond the age limit of 31 years.

      Solution: Make the upper age limit 31 years along with an extra attempt.

      2) Students from Regional language background would be ata disadvantage in Paper-I as many would require to put in extra efforts to work on their English language. It would be detrimental to their final rank in the Merit List. Already many of them find it difficult to get through the Preliminary stage due to emphasis on English Comprehension.( Students from the southern states especially as Hindi is not their savior in CSAT). Students from CBSE, ICSE stand to gain again from this new patter.

      Solution: Students would need more time to be prepared for these mammoth changes brought in by UPSC. So again the age limit to be extended to 31 along with an extra attempt

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      yogesh 4 years ago

      @ nisha r u sure.plz send ne the link..

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      yogesh 4 years ago

      then i m in,lets get at least 10 guys

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      sazid khan gaya 4 years ago

      very boring decision

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      amit 4 years ago

      @yogesh, @nisha - I understand your concerns and i feel one should go about this in a planned and logical manner. At a surface level it appears unfair to the candidates who are into their last attempt, but am sure UPSC would justify the current scheme of exam as they may have already discussed this at length. You have to present a strong case using the principles of natural justice and logic. Following are my views:

      1) You may gather in protest but this may not really solve the problem as all the unhappy people may be distributed throughout, and moreover it's a herculean task to identify,gather and convince them in such short notice.

      2) If you want to file a PIL, try to consider maximum possibilities and outsmart UPSC/DOPT( Officials are very smart and they surely have done the homework ). Its much like a guessing game who ever comes with an argument the other person may not have thought of has a better chance.

      3) @yogesh - you have too many demands, please focus on only 2 at the moment, say Attempt and Age.

      4) Can you gather more information on changes in the year 1978 and 1990? They may have given extra attempts or increased the age for 1990, but more important question is what were the changes? Were changes radical in nature?

      5) For attempts,Age and late notification - upsc may argue that these changes are not radical in nature that's why no question of any eligibilty changes quoting some reasons mentioned below:

      UPSC: a) We may have introduced 4 papers in the GS but apart from few static(Conceptual) changes most of the GS remains dynamic(current based) and incremental in nature and any well educated person shall be able to answer these questions by delving deeper into the matter. On the top of that we have reduced one optional and language paper and also postponed the mains exam by 1 month, so this should give candidates sufficient time to prepare for the GS.

      b) The veterans will be well prepared with the optional, essay and most of the GS, They still have an edge over frehsers as most of the stuff overlaps with the prior version of UPSC mains so no question of increasing age or attempt.

      c) As for english being made compulsory, UPSC will give similar arguments as in case of CSAT when there were issues related to some passages that had to be attempted in english. The case is weak.

      And so on and so forth, and the debate can go for ever.

      The idea is to give sound reasons and prove why and how your fundamental rights have been violated. For example you can consider the following arguments:

      a) Number of attempts is for a given scheme of examination and when there are plethora of changes, candidates taking last attempt should be given some cushion. These changes have been introduced because earlier pattern was not considered good enough for identifying the most appropriate candidates. There is a possibility that the candidates who couldn't clear the exam in previous attempts would have qualified the exam at the first go had changes been introduces years back.Only few 100 make it to the final list and there will be thousands left who wouldn't qualify, the idea is to give them at least one more chance to reduce the luck factor and also others have more attempt to prove themselves in the subsequent attempts.

      b) As for the sufficient time given after notification and argument that any well educated person should be able to answer such questions - You have to collect evidence around sources of the GS paper. For example if you find questions were taken from NASA, Nature Magazine, India Year Book, Or multiple news papers, a well educated person wont be reading from so many sources everyday and also if questions are only analytical in nature and mostly value based, or at the surface level the argument by upsc still holds, but in real life the paper borrows from multiple sources and you also need factual information every now and then so one has to put in concerted efforts, at least few hrs everyday, and this is not something a well educated person does on a daily basis unless he is focussed and preparing for some exam. Moreover due to uncertainity around the new pattern, lot of student ended up wasting lots of time. If not the syllabus upsc should have informed in advance about the scheme of examination well in advance.( Like they did in CSAT, they came up with model questions in the month of Oct-Nov, even before the notification )

      c) As there are talks around for reduction in age and attempt please do not ask for permanent and many changes as this may go against you, Just ask for a grace period of 1 year (one extra attempt and age extension by 1 year until 2014) keeping in mind thousands of those who are taking their attempt this year.

      d) The logic used by UPSC in calculation of age and attempt for each category is still unclear, and even if we assume that 50 percent of population is upper caste and out of this around 16% is below poverty line, the number will still go to crores. This means many crores of the upper class candidates are similar to reserved candidates in every aspect, and all the provisions that are given to other categories should be given to them as a part of affirmative section clause by the government, this violates their fundamental rights as well. The government may be considering providing reservation to the poor from general category, but that will take sometime. Why no affirmative action now? Giving one more attempt and increasing the age by 1 will help such candidates marginally. It is not easy for them to adjust to the new pattern as they don't have access to most of the stuff, so a grace period is the need of the hour.

      e) arjun kejariwal may not be the right vehicle for change as congress may not approve the changes ever, just because they were raised by a political opponent. The idea is to file a PIL and then involve him for more pressure.

      I may be wrong but am just trying to state one simple fact, emotions wont help, and a should be statement never helps win cases. I am sure you guys will have better arguments so please try to jot down and improve upon my stuff.

      note - This has to be done real quick, else everything will go in vain.

      Best of luck :) remember patience and perseverance is the key.

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      Dipali 4 years ago

      English paper was there in previous years. regarding hindi paper, it was a qualifying paper. they have reduced the optional papers as well. i think it is good for people who are preparing for last couple of years because at present General Studies carries the highest portion of the exam. And ultimately the board doesn't post candidates in their home states. so i think it is ok that they have reduced language paper. however regarding answering the exam, hindi has always been an option and i believe it will always be.

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      yogesh 4 years ago

      it seems to be very difficult I suppose!!!

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      amit 4 years ago

      @ yogesh, it is difficult but do not lose hope.. You still have a chance if you act quick and gather more information on this. Try to interact with Kejriwal and ask for his views on the matter

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      yogesh 4 years ago

      But i am not only the who will suffer in future,I wish some more people to come forward as it will give more courage,or else I will back off

      Bye

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      Nandan 4 years ago

      Govt has not yet published the amended rules in gazette.So wait for the gazette notification to know whether age and attempt relaxation have been considered.I hope they give relaxation.

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      Nisha 4 years ago

      @yogesh how many ppl do u have with u?

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      sekhar.. 4 years ago

      I think new pettron will best aspirents...

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      yogesh 4 years ago

      @nisha connect to orkut,

      http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#CommMsgs?cmm=23492063&tid=5851874979910375569&na=2&npn=21&nid=

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @amit: Sorry, misread.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @Gaurav: Sorry, misread.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @saurav: Ex-servicemen are the ones who have served in Armed Forces (Short Service Commission) and have been discharged from service with pension. They generally have 15+ years of experience.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @Saurav: No

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @peety: Yes hindi is compulsory and marks will be counted. There is no hindi paper. but hindi can be chosen as medium and Literature optional.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @UPSC: You can't take Punjabi as medium. However, you can take punjabi literature as optional subject.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Its not like that. He can write punjabi optional but not choose punjabi as medium of instruction.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @UPSC: You will not be allowed.

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      amit 4 years ago

      @gurpreet - @UPSC can take punjabi as optional only if he has done his graduation in that language. It seems he has done BTech so that option also closes

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      Rakesh 4 years ago

      In addition to attempt relaxation in 1990,UPSC set age relaxation at 31 in 1990 and 33 again in 1992 to accommodate all candidates.So now ti is time

      to make our demand louder.As UPSC will be forced to make an amendment in its language policy very soon,let them consider the age and attempt limit issues as well.

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      kishan 4 years ago

      bhai,1978,1990,meih suna tha par,yeh 1992 meih kab hua.ha ha ha

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      Rakesh 4 years ago

      Kishan bhai,see ARC 10th report RECRUITMENT chapter to know that upper age for general category was raised to 31 in 1991 and 33 in 1993.And please make your comment here after confirming .thanks

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      kishan 4 years ago

      @ rakesh i admit ur point thanks

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      kishan 4 years ago

      @rakesh bhai ,para toh bataye,ya page no ,wasise muje aap par vishwas hai

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      Rakesh 4 years ago

      If anyone goes to court for age and attempt relaxation,we may not win due to govt nasty tactics.It should be achieved politically.A bureaucrat and nominated head of a republic is naturally insensitive to the aspirations of youth.As the election is just ahead,let's make our voice heard in political circles.I am writing to many politicians.

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      GS 4 years ago

      The new syllabus is good, as it gives more emphasis on General Studies. The Syllabus has not changed drastically. The general studies syllabus of Prior years are split into 3 GS Papers now with a slight addition of World History etc. It would be better if they drop Optional Paper in the future years and add one more GS paper which covers Public Administration.

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      hari shri 4 years ago

      i like this new syllabus.really good.it gives extreame importance to the GS.if possible please give some model question paper for this new pattern for each papers.

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      amit 4 years ago

      Is there only one optional paper in ias main exam 2013?

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      amit 4 years ago

      Who ever is interested in fresh attempts.. check the below link:

      orkut.co.in/Main#CommMsgs?cmm=23492063&tid=5851874979910375569&na=4&npn=20&nid=23492063-5851874979910375569-5853106510266690277

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      sanjay 4 years ago

      Please, Update about age relaxation and attempt in UPSC 2013, any chance to relaxation in age and attempt. Quickly time is very sort...... we can revolt for this injustice with all IAS aspirants.

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      sanjay 4 years ago

      @Rakesh

      Did u wrote to many politician..... please wrote ...... i am with u.......

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      amit 4 years ago

      @ sanjay, @ rakesh - Please refer to the above orkut link on the latest updates on this

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      sanjay 4 years ago

      @ amit, above link is not working and page is not opened.......

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      IAS Planner 4 years ago

      Pattern Change Highlights:

      - Main Exam to have 7 Papers, Including 4 on General Studies

      - Intention to reduce stress on Optional Subjects

      - Students can now take the same subject in which they graduated.

      Source: www.iasplanner.com

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      Gaurav 4 years ago

      UPSC के नए परीक्षा पैटर्न पर फिलहाल रोक.

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      Gaurav 4 years ago

      सिविल सेवा परीक्षा में अंग्रेजी के पर्चे को मेरिट में जोड़ने तथा क्षेत्रीय भाषाओं के बारे में किए गए परिवर्तनों संबंधी संघ लोक सेवा आयोग के परिपत्र पर कड़े विरोध को देखते हुए सरकार ने इसके अमल पर फिलहाल रोक लगा दी है.

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      amit 4 years ago

      @gaurav - kahan mili aapko ye khabar..

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      Gaurav 4 years ago

      @Amit- I got the information from the news but i would suggest not to care about them all. Let them do their job and we should do our job. Remember always that, whatever may be the change or may not be, it will be for all and again the competition will remain largely intact.

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      IAS Aspirint 4 years ago

      i liked this new pattern which gives more preference to general studies. However still having one optional paper favours some degrees whereas the other degree holders need to study a fresh optional. A chemical engg grad or a computer engg has to study a new optional. This pattern favours one group and not the other. Removal of optional is a better option and the Exam should test General Studies, Public Administration and Latest Technology. The current Pattern of cse is good as they test general studies in depth and the good thing is it has introduced a new gs paper-4 which tests various case studies of real time issues.

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      amarjit 4 years ago

      it is complsery new syllbus

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      pardeep 4 years ago

      is there any impact of hindi or other medium except english on selection of ias or in checking of main exam?

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      dipali 4 years ago

      two qualifying papers mean??anybody knows what has been changed?

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      Yadunandan 4 years ago

      probably hindi is back :P

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      dipali 4 years ago

      English has been dropped as compulsory.the thought is amazing...everybody will write in their own "comfortable" regional lingo answering to the same question. i guess now its true competition.

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      IAS Aspirint 4 years ago

      I always found the regional language paper to be tough, as I was from an english medium school. Qualifying language papers and optional papers has to be removed, only then it is a tough competition.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @IAS Aspirint: I Agree.

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      ram asare pirajapati 4 years ago

      this is good dicision becouse new student take opportunity for upsc exam.

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      Sachin Kesarwani 4 years ago

      can a student doing B.Tech. in aerospace engineering participate in the civil services exams.Please inform me on my e-mail address optimix786@gmail.com

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      neeta 4 years ago

      is hindi as a qualifying subject been dropped?

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @Sachin : Why not. You only have to be a graduate or a final year graduation student.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @neeta : Not dropped. Remember hindi alone is not a qualifying subject. It is any of the 22 languages in the constitution.

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      Naveen Kumar Singh 4 years ago

      sir,madam or anbody else

      know that which 8 languages of india including & ask in the exam of upsc preliminary?

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      4 years ago

      exesting pattern is good

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      Honeyhk 4 years ago

      Sir as we all know that upsc ias exam pattern has been changed and now there are only 2 optionals to b selected for mains exam so i like to ask this question which is not mentioned anywhere that do the combinations of subject restrictions apply in 2013 as well? I mean earlier there was restricions in selecting some combinations of subjects....for example u can't choose management and public administrationas your optionals so i want to ask that as the pattern has been changed... does this restriction has been removed or it will b applied as it is like before?

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Hi Honeyhk,

      This time there will be only one optional subject in Mains which will have two papers. Therefore, there is no questions of subject combinations.

      -Gurpreet

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      maheshkumar .s. chitte 4 years ago

      i want join upsc classes

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      Akshay Palshikar 4 years ago

      Great site for information !! Actually after completing i started following only jagran josh & www.upsc4all.com for articles and current affairs ...any advice for current affair s& Study ?

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      hanish gupta 4 years ago

      hello sir

      i have got iti in punjab. when can i expect joining letter.

      also i want to prepare for civil services .

      will i get ample time for it in iti job?

      please reply...thank you

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      simplydecoded.com is a good site as well.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 4 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @hanish, I am also selected for ITI punjab this time. Nomination is being delayed. that is why nothing can be said of joining. It may start after october, hopefully. I think you will get more time in this job than other CGL jobs.

      -Gurpreet

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      Chetan 3 years ago

      Did anybody worked on Age relaxation thing for this year's exam...please guide...we need to spread the word in a planned approach and try to make deaf ear hear our voices...if not anything else at least 1st Aug to 1st Jan cutoff change...Rakesh Yogesh...amit...are you guys still on...?

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      gajendra singh 3 years ago

      I AM A STUDENT OF B.TECH FIRST YEAR IN COMPUTER SCIENCE .

      I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IAS EXAM .

      CAN I APPLY FOR IAS EXAM AFTER B.TECH .

      PLEASE GIVE ME ALL DETAILS.

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      Manish Nain 3 years ago

      Sir, i take a UPPSC exam 2013, i hope that i'll be passed in this exam . so please suggest me that what SUBJECT would be choice in this Mains Exam.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 3 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @gajendra: yes , you will be eligible after b tech. Please use the official website www.upsc.gov.in for complete information.

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      Gurpreet Seehra 3 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      @Manish: the choice of subject depends on your interests.. pub ad, socio, geography, history and psychology are some common choices. Of these socio and pub ad have the smaller syllabi.

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      Eswar 3 years ago

      Hi..gurpreet.. I got selected for ITI andhra..what next after nominations ?

      How can I contact them to change my correspondence address?

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      Gurpreet Seehra 3 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Eswar: If your correspondence address is changed, you should contact the office of your Cadre Controlling Authority, which is CCIT-1, Hyderabad in your case.

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      priya 3 years ago

      i wrote exam this year i did not get it i don't want to write exam next year i want to write in 2015 can this is possible or i hv to write exam continously

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      vikartsys@yahoo.co.in 3 years ago

      plz guide me for UP PCS

      thanks sir

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      Gurpreet Seehra 3 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      priya: why not.

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      ks murthy 3 years ago

      sir, Is it sure of getting 2 more chances for civils? upsc could put any restictions on that?

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      Gurpreet Seehra 3 years ago from Chandigarh, India

      Yes, 2 more chances is final. UPSC can't overrule the govt. But the official notification will clear all doubts.

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      s.k.dora 3 years ago

      sir can upsc syllabus change again in prelims or mains its true

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      gowthaam 3 years ago

      any 1 indian language is compulsoooooory?????????????????????????????

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