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Who's Children are they any ways?

Updated on May 18, 2014

Is the really much difference?

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Child Protection Agency and the Department of Children's Services

In 1853 the Children's Aid Society in New York city to help with the problem of abandoned and orphaned children. These children were ran through the legal system making the wards of the State "State Property" to keep them from growing up in the streets and becoming criminals. The State found that they could place the children in foster homes. This was a great benefit for the State because the foster home would use the kids to work on the farm. Much like the way prisons use laws to reinstate slavery using the prison system by selling the labors of the prisoners, the Children Aid Society began selling children for farm labor. This was a lucrative business for the Agency as well as the State, until they ran out of children. The Agency had to work closely with the State to develop a legal way to take normal everyday parent's children from them so the agency could continue earning money for them and the State.

The State enacted more laws allowing a private agency to to determine if a normal parent was worthy of having their children taken under the guise of "abuse" and "neglect".

Because we said so!

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On who's Authority?

Whether you believe in God or not there is a basic principal that would suggest certain basic human rights. The right to hunt and gather food, the right to make a home, the right to protect your self, and the right to travel or move around. You would assume that if you gained something as long as you did not take if from another it belongs to you. Being a part of society means being a part of rules but what do we do if that set is rules is not fair or right?

Should not our children belong to us? The only argument really should be does the child belong to the woman or the man, not if the state should have control of the children. I could see maybe saying if the State pays for a part of the child's upbringing with sources like Food Stamps or Insurance, but the argument there would be that the State does not pay the taxpayers do. Even at that a child belongs to the parent's and should not be something the State can take away especially through an outside private agency that has no legal right to enter your home or even talk to you according to our Constitution.

I know many will say that if a child is being abused, neglected or exposed to undesirable dangers. I say. what ever happens to a child is between the parent, the child and God. Who are we to justify claiming authority over another human being. to tell them what they do or think is wrong, even more so, if the Government is only supposed to be an extension of the people's wants unless we have became a communistic country, the government does not have this right. I for one do not remember the government asking us if we want them to take our children.


It is mine!

Moral Argument.

The moral argument is if children are being abused should we not help them. Ask your self this question: if a person was in their yard and they got angry with their car and starting beating the car with a baseball bat, do you have the right to intervene and stop that person from beating their car? You might say a car is not a child or a human being, but put aside blood, bones, and a voice. Property is property, ad a child should be property of the parent. If someone abuses your child ask for help, but if they do something you don't like to their own children mind your own business. As for the State it takes a croup of control freaks to feel the need to make everyone be like sheep.

Don't stand for this.

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Legal Kidnapping

In the new we see in small third world countries that someone kidnapped someones child and every American gets their feathers ruffled, and the US government even wants to get involved at times. We get bothered by this because the idea of someone taking our children really bothers us. And still we support legal kidnapping that goes on here in the United States every day. Even if you do nothing at all you still support this. People calling in on children's parents, people not standing up to the State, and people fostering children all supports this form of legal kidnapping. I ask when will Americans stand up fro the freedoms this country was built on? When will you stop sitting idly by and watching America getting raped and robbed of our freedoms in the name of saving people? It is our duty as Americans to pick up our guns and stand before our government and let them know we will not stand for them taking our rights and freedoms.

Kidnapping

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Corruption in CPS

Seeing is beliving

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      Peeples 3 years ago from South Carolina

      Ok see I guess disagreeing with you got me one thing, I see that we do agree at least on a couple things and am able to see your point of view better. I honestly wish you would have conveyed it in the same way in your post. I'll agree to disagree on if we should intervene. As for the foster parents being paid to be "career foster parents" I agree. I saw over 30 homes and many were busy collecting their checks while locking our food away so we couldn't eat it. I agree the world is policed and sadly it take one lie to ruin a family. However just those handful of times could stop suffering that should never happen no matter how good we MAY turn out. Have a good evening.

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      Stephen P, Ferguson Jr. 3 years ago from Parrottsville, Tennessee

      I never once said any of those things were okay in my mind, nor would I condone them in my home, what I am saying is that it is not our business. My mother was raped by her father repeatedly while her mother sat in the living room and did nothing. Her father was never charged, she was never taken away, and I can say she turn out to e the best mother anyone could ask for, on top of being the strongest woman I have ever seen. My mother taught me that things like abuse and rape are the most horrible thing a person could go through or that someone could put someone else through, but she also taught me that freedom and minding your own business are much more in value. I personally believe that families should take care of families in all matters. If the family finds out something like this is going on and they want to step in and correct the situation they should be allowed to, without government stepping in. What I have a problem with is an unconstitutional agency taking peoples children because they don't live like other do. I have a problem with fostering parents getting paid $3000.00 a month to raise other peoples children when the parents don't even make that much. The world is being policed by to many people and these agencies give everyone the authority to turn anyone in even based on lies. I personally have had some jerk lie and call DCS with BS and they have had to close there case for unfounded evidence, But we as a people should not have to go through these things over our own flesh and blood, our own property.

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      Peeples 3 years ago from South Carolina

      You see it as kidnapping and as someone who was taken from my parents I see it as a life savor. A man who screws his own child should have that child taken from him and then shot. I don't know what I would do if I saw someone in the street hitting their child but I do know that I have been a a guardian ad litem and looked at a judge and a parent and said there was no way that parent should have their child. What funds? Most of those foster children end up in foster homes. CPS has almost no money, to the point of laying off their own employees!!!!!

      Your moral compass is so broke it is sickening and I don't understand how you think it is ok for children to be tied to porches, beat unconscious, raped, sodomized, and thousands of other things and no one should step in!!!

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      Stephen P, Ferguson Jr. 3 years ago from Parrottsville, Tennessee

      Actually, no. My moral compass tells me that we are animals and in nature there is a rare occasion where when a baby is left behind that a non parent animal might adopt and take care if it, but there are no cases that show when a parent animal does something to its own child that another egotistical self righteous animal will come along and rescue the baby that does not belong to them. I can't stand people thinking they should have a right to intervene with the private life of another human being. Look how many men and woman have died because some idiot in the government can't keep his nose in our own yard and send soldiers to fight a battle they would not fight their self. Quite honestly I would bet money that if you yourself saw a parent doing something you did not approve of you would whisper under your breath to your buddies, and even cowardly call DCS or CPS anonymously, but facing the the fact that a parent the might just slap your teeth out of even shoot you: chances are you would not step up and try to take a child yourself. So instead of acting high and mighty as if you would be some kind of hero accept the fact that if you cannot do something yourself about your views on a situation like this then you should not have an opinion. Me on the other hand for myself along with family and friends would have no trouble in my mind, stepping up to law enforcement and DCS or CPS armed with the Constitution and a gun letting them know taking someones children is kidnapping no matter what color of laws you may use to justify it, and I will not stand for it. The point of the whole story was that the only reason CPS and DCS exist is to gain funds for the private kidnapping agencies and the government, not whether I agree with child abuse or not. Just the same as a woman beater, if I saw a man hitting his wife or child in his yard I would mind my own business, if he done it in my yard I would make him leave.

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      Peeples 3 years ago from South Carolina

      You are comparing these things to a person being abused. Do you fail to see the difference? Does your moral compass not tell you to protect what can't be protected?

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      Stephen P, Ferguson Jr. 3 years ago from Parrottsville, Tennessee

      Peeples,

      Though you have your freedom and right to believe what you may, we as people do not have the right to intervene other's personal business. If we do then we have a right to control if blacks and white mix, or if gays are aloud in private to be together. we can not pick and choose which rights we have and which freedoms we have. To say we have to let someone love who they want because that is their private right; the to say a parent can not do what ever to their child, is hypocrisy at its greatest. Maybe the people have a right to say you can not drive because we don't like how you look, or maybe because you eat a food I don't like I should intervene and tell you you can not eat it any more. I mean either people have freedom as long as it does not affect you, or people don't have freedom?

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      Peeples 3 years ago from South Carolina

      I am appalled by the article. I truly can not wrap my mind around someone saying "I say. what ever happens to a child is between the parent, the child and God." That's sick and honestly makes me wonder about your mental stability and parenting. Where is your empathy? How about what is your God doing to protect those children? If they cry out in prayers for help and that God has done nothing to stop their suffering? It is our job as humans to take care of others. It is our job to protect those not protected by their parents. I usually find that parents who cry about how their child was taken wrongly by the government are the same parents who think beating the crap out of their child is the "right" thing to do. Very sad. CPS/DSS has many faults that I know all too well, but to do away with a system put in place to help children like I once was is ludicrous!

      By the way you have no rights to treat your child poorly, they are NOT a possession, they are a living person!!

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      Stephen P, Ferguson Jr. 3 years ago from Parrottsville, Tennessee

      The biggest problem is that Americans do not choose to stand up for their Rights as humans. When they take our gun and our children we sit by and say much and do nothing. People need to pick up their guns and stand before the enemy willing to die for freedom, but people are to preoccupied and unconcerned.

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      someonewhoknows 3 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

      Like I have often said : "MONEY TALKS"