Does the truth of your beliefs depend upon having the beliefs? Or do they stand true whether your believe or not?
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Strange contradiction in terms seeing as how "God" has never been proven to be a fact.
Fact = "something that truly exists or happens : something that has actual existence." All the dictionaries on-line say something similar to this.
Astrophysics, that's a most exciting course of study, Ruth!
True he has not. But that essentially is what faith is. Believing in something with out having factual validity. Yes I have my own faith that God exists. But I have no religion. The science behind biblical teachings are only relevant to its own time.
"Factual Validity?" Just because someone believes something doesn't make it true. No matter what it is. All religions are based on stories that authorities used to use to keep people in line.
"All religions are based on stories that authorities used to use to keep people in line"
Agreed, fortunately RELATIONSHIP with God is not, it's based upon Gods love for humanity, it's man that stuffed it up!
"... having spent a longish period of time in reflection over my life and it´s direction..." is very appropriate for your own life, John, but translating personal to others' lives is not, IMHO
While writing my series on the world's 10 most practiced religions, I struggled with understanding most of them.
Yes, ok Bruce. I would still use "fear." Even if an individual does not recognise it as fear, I suspect it really is that - based upon superstitious belief. But not adamant, just my opinion.
All in favour of people " If you are in doubt at all" examining their beliefs, how else will we learn what is truth?
If anyone is not SURE, they have no eternal security to speak of, or rely upon, best to deal with that, fast!
The big difference between christian and buddhist understanding, surely, is the former depending upon "external security" and the latter looking to "Inner Awareness" for an honest appreciation of all life.
Christians are by far the larger audience here on HubPages. That is why they are singled out. But I have noticed that other religions are rapidly gaining on them.
The very term 'singled out' indicates people's bullying natures. 'Cos, you know, they won't like behead you or nothing.
lol I love selective political correctness :)
Terrex - which forces? I know about Islam; what other religions don't tolerate questioning?
Ruth, it's not just belief in god, but the black and white restrictions that people put around their god. So petty you could have no allegence to "Him" or "Her,"
"they'll never know if it's true or not till it's too late."
Actually, that statement is only valid for atheists or agnostics, if believers are wrong, they will never know..... on the other hand!
And is it really worth while worrying about it? This life is a maximum normal of 100 years long. "Live it for God's sake" might be a good motto for believers. You will be a long time dead and past worrying.
Yes, it's worth taking into consideration, if one is wrong, you may be a long time (eternity) considering.
Don't worry John. I am 100% comfortable to take that dead-cert chance!
Then you are a fortunate man Alan, I only need look at Gods creation to know something bigger is involved.
We are like ants, trying to describe an elephant, the only way to 'see' the elephant, is to explore it fully.
Oh, John, please don't suppose I negate the idea of "something bigger involved." That does not have to imply there is anything of consciousness for me or my "soul" after death.
"the interests of OTHERS must take precedence." Hmmm... "for MY eternal security." So your beliefs are for your own sake. You are ultimately trying to save yourself. That is the result you're trying to achieve.
John, fair enough that you feel you are spiritually awakened and that perhaps others are not. But my question is not in reference to that.... just please, if you can, answer the question.
Ruth, I am speaking pragmatically i.e. : dealing with the problems that exist in a specific situation in a reasonable and logical way instead of depending on ideas and theories. Our eternal security (with God) comes only from believing in Yeshua.
John, I respect that you have those personal beliefs, but this thread is not intended to be about evangelism. Please be respectful of this.
Alan, not evangelism, just stating what I have found, but I will duck out if that makes it easier to control the thread.... funny, the questions seem to have taken over from the forum! :)
Ok, Shivam, with respect, would you like to expand on that? Is it like something around the corner, out of immediate sight, can be expected to be still there?
Yes Alan there r many things,many secrets that we don't but they do exist,it's not like if we don't know about something then it will not exist
I ask the question hoping a few more christians might be open to deeper discussion. That word "truth" has also been discussed (argued?) at length without useful conclusions.
Why do you need to please anyone? Belief and faith are the same thing. Hope would be another word. You 'hope' that you are right.
I'm always surprised at the ages of some of the people who answer these questions about other religions and only know about Christianity. Any college student has at least one course in comparative religion or philosophy.