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we al see different realties. How I see the world and you and every one else sees the world interprets it differently. what I mean is we all have a different option on how we see and understand things.
The fact of different interpretation-generation, would seem to make the point about an underlying, existing objective reality. The objective reality is the thing generating different interpretations for different people.
Yes Dwight, "?" is correct. Try hard as you may you will never make sense of that kind of thinking because it is insanity, to believe it "requires a willing suspension of disbelief." Odd isn't it, Hiliary (the liar in chief) said it best.
Dwight & Tsad. Really gentlemen? Perhaps too many ?? just exposes lack of wisdom & creativity? (Insanity?) R U qualified to diagnose or simply relating on a personal level? Hillary? How does she come in here?? Hope U can do better.
Really JJ?if u don't know that is a famous quote of Hiliary's to General Petraeus when questioning him then I'd say u are out of touch& if you ascribe to DS's definition of reality,well that goes a long way to explaining your comment.
Not a fan of Hillary. She's irrelevant & speaks jibberish. Wouldn't waste my time quoting her. A lot of time on UR hands? Congratulations. U ascribe as U choose. I ascribe as I choose. Check UR map. This is America. No dictators, Sir.
I imagine the pain would change their perception thus creating a new reality for them. At one time the world was factually known to be flat until someone sailed around it without falling off the edge. Whatever is impossible today may be possible
so your saying reality can"t exist without people's perceptions?
I'm saying reality is combination of one's known experiences, beliefs, and their perception. If you lived in a remote place and were on your deathbed without ever seeing or hearing about airplanes then in (your reality) planes do not exist.
Strange about pain. We have a built in system that increases tolerance to it over time. I am not so sure that we cannot "mind over matter" it's existence. Certainly with drugs pain changes - does the reality of the pain?
But dashing that does not mean that airplanes don't exists. U see reality is not individual perception. The question above is above is about subjectivity vs objectivity and objectivity always wins. Our personal beliefs don't matter: WHAT IS ALWAYS IS
Dwight I get where you're coming from. However it's because (we) live in a "shared world" where there is proof of airplanes. If you never seen or heard of them as you lay there dying (your reality) and your perception would be different.
I see U say U understand me, okay.........but we're still saying different things I believe.
I, don't think that reality has ANYTHING to do with people.
But U do......(am I right?)
I think that's where the difference lies.
It is cool that we use a language to communicate with each other. "reality" is one of the words. Juries decide the truth. Why do we have twelve of them? A husband and wife joint reality is different than their separate realities.
We're saying different things because you're not putting yourself in the place of someone who (lacks awareness) of airplanes. You're viewing the world from an (all knowing) or big picture perspective. I'm talking about (his) perspective.
mhh Ur right dashing........that's what I'm doing. But isn't that the okay way to look at it? shouldn't there just be one reality? Where we all look at it in different ways. Like opera; different individual perceptions but it's Still Opera.
Facts are accepted via awareness) of them. At one time it was believed the world was flat until man learned it was indeed round. From a big picture view it was always (factually) round. They're no unicorns only because no one yet has seen one.:)
Well said regard facts, yet remains provided is opinion regard objectively regard your 'self' and reality. There is bias present with the assertion being a truism and you as the authority. To be objectively for 'self' one cannot be the authority.
Nice and deep. It begs the question if anything can indeed be objective.........If we all have to speak from a subjective standpoint.
Yes, Dwight I concur. Thus, your subjective reply has been validated with veracity as objective. Thus, as reality objectively exists. However, this one for me does not remaining subjectively . . . Perhaps? is cause for peer review . . .