I have no doubt our earth is warming at an alarming rate. One of the reasons I think this is because of the photo I included with the question. Otzi--the Iceman--was frozen over 5000 years ago and has remained that way through all sorts of weather trends until just a few years ago when his icy coffin melted away. This is not just a warming trend my friends. If you are a climate change denier then please explain why our worlds best scientist are lying about it and why. A conspiracy of this size without leaks is unthinkable.
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Somewhat yes, but others do not believe it's happening, despite the evidence. Like some still believe in Noah's Ark. We can't remove the rainforests and spew hydrocarbon fumes into the atmosphere and expect things to stay the same.
Give me a call and you can hike with me Randy. There is a place where 10 million years is condensed into 1 inch of formation. And the canyon is 1 mile deep in spots. Metamorphic rock dates 2 billion years. Really? People "have faith" in man caused?
Eric, then why are the world's leading scientists lying about the data? And what is their motive for doing so? Do you realize how difficult it would be to keep that a secret? Get real, dude!
Cows fart! and my family treats the world with respect but we know that our impact is so minor. 5 volcanoes at the same time. 1 volcano puts more out than LA for 200 years. Such egocentric people really think they have an impact. Morons.
All it would take to end life as we know it is for Yellowstone to blow. And that will probably happen long before man ruins the world.
So far, you guys haven't given a reason for the worlds brightest scientists faking the results of the data proving global warming is real. Even Trump's secret doings leak out in today's world. LOL!
Randy I think we are in closer to agreement than some would think. Yes man has impact. But not enough to change the patterns of climate that has been changing for billions. We hurt the earth as it effects us.
Amen: I agree that there is climate change, daily, but liberals seek to affix blame on human activity which is not settled science as they want you to believe. Calling those who don't agree with their position climate deniers is hysteria.
So, the earth hasn't changed according to you? You will only listen to those that agree with you. The majority of weather scientists agree that global climate change is real, and humans are responsible. Not believing them won't help our world.
What I find questionable is that what is the 'Norm?" The Earth has been hotter and colder during its existence. Was the Norm when Grapes grew in Canada? Was the Norm when England was connected to France by an ice bridge?
The "norm" would be the optimal conditions of the earth in its natural state, free from artificial conditions imposed by humans or animals. Barring that, the norm would be the average conditions calculated over ttime. Global warming averages are up.
How about the Cenozoic and the Mesozoic and the Paleozoic and the Proterizoic and the Hadean and the Jurassic time periods? Is someone serious about 1 million years as evidence?
How long have humans existed in civilized conditions, Eric? When did we really start the industrial revolution and began to clear the land of vast acres of vegetation which keeps the oxygen levels up? Doh!
Randy, one magma explosion, one massive solar flare and one huge earthquake. Mankind has no influence, we are nasty lame ducks. With that said, I leave a neutral footprint while Gore flies in private jets. Silly people.
This planet has gone through so many changes and man was never the cause for any of them. We might have somewhat of an influence on nature, but, like Eric said, a volcano or sun flare. As a matter of fact, it would only take Yellowstone to elawki.
I commend everyone that has commented for keeping their civility on this divisive subject.
Eric, are you smarter than the scientists? Do you disbelieve the ice packs are melting? Or do you think mankind has no part in this "natural" phenomenon?
Randy, I think man can and does effect the planet.But I just cannot ignore 5 previous ice ages. For many millions of years there was no ice even in the arctics. That comes from scientists, so I guess I do not think I am smarter.
What is the harm is cleaning up after ourselves? We are definitly creating pollution, garbage, and food shortages right now! Forget previous earth events. We had no control then. But we can control some of this weather change now.
Global warming is but another manufactured environmental crisis whose real purpose is social engineering.
Austinstar, I do believe in and live with a tiny footprint. Less is better and reusing is mandatory. I think we can make our planet better for man. But over the long haul we cannot change the climate, it will do as it does.
Yeah, it's best if we just give it all up and surrender. I'm glad that not all of us feel that way.
Lela, check out the PO hub. Very bad news!
Isn't it possible to recognize that we have an impact, and yet not go all chicken little. Maybe I do by action, but not a visceral fear. The changes in the next 2 decades might even wipe out 1 million or billion. Isn't that good for the earth? Weird?
Yes I can imagine he shocked "the academics" as he is showing his ignorance.
In science you have to backup your thesis. The global warming is proven over and over again by many scientist. His claim is 1 against a million. Shockingly naieve!
Accordingly Peter. The call is obvious. Feelings and beliefs and morals are not at play here. Science and natural law is. So by your logical standards we should let hurricanes, earthquakes wipe out a good billion people. Man must go!
Of course not Eric, if you can save a human life, or prevent a disaster you should do the best in you capabilities to do so. (I'm not talking about the pro-life thing, that's a different discussion).
Peter that fact remains. Kill of people is the only route to really limiting our impact. Man made disaster let it be man who extincts man. It is the only solution. Like thinning a herd of deer when they outrank predators you killed off. Simple Scienc
And according to which rules, who should be killed and who are the executors? Who is disposable! This way of thinking is a disaster and used in dictatorships where some people find themselves more human then others...
Absolutely my friend. We go with Paris accords and the US pays for India. India without coal or China without is death to millions of millions but West Virginia only jobs and poor children. This concept of "we bear the burden" is wrong. My children?
Eric, I suppose you agreed with exterminating most of the Native Americans by the European settlers then.
Going out of the Paris accord was in many ways stupid. Business wise and political. The US doesn't have the right to influence to shape the future anymore. Better to play the game, although you may not like it, then to be an outsider.
Randy please do not be silly. It is a point being made that if man is the problem, reducing man is the solution.
Peter I see your point. Only a player can effect the outcome of the game notion. But sometimes a player holds out for more money.
There is a price tag on leading the world. Apparently Trump is not interested in leading the world and more in money. This is short sighted. Politically and business wise.
Other countries like China will fill the gap where the US retreats.
This sounds a lot like the arguments about cures for certain illnesses being hidden so big pharma can get richer and richer. I think they both make some sense and are not whacky conspiracy theories.
Catherine, you didn't address how the world's scientists are able to keep the "conspiracy" so secret, and why they would do so in the first place. These are dedicated men who value facts much more than politics and money.
Easy there with the kool-aid. Scientist live off funding, no crisis no funding. Yes they do want to feed their families and egos. They are not above evil motive any more than the wonderful scientists that work for Monsanto--right Randy?
There is no agreement on the cause(s) of climate change and I have not seen credible evidence for anything man-made, however, I am sure YHWH's controls are in place.
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