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Catholic Church Origin Based on Krishna
When Catholic Church Started
Nicaea was the ancient name for Iznik in Turkey. Here the Roman Emperor, Constantine, set up a council of men called into his presence from around the empire in 325AD. They consisted of literate and illiterate delegates and those of such variance in religious idealism that it was almost impossible to draw a conclusion about what actually happened here. No written records were kept or, if they were, they were destroyed by later Catholic religious leaders who had much to hide.
My research into the origin of the church stems from having memory of reincarnation and of being between lives, which the church would declare is blasphemy and that such things are of the devil. More than 20 years of uncovering the facts has shown me that the things this organisation relies on as its faith has dubious origins in a medley of mayhem, power and necromancy and that its claims, such as a virgin birth and resurrected Savior are worthless.
The point of the lens is to explain how through the scholars who took up the challenge to make it credible that this body was mostly unable to decide on too much at all, at least in the initial stages. Yet it was the foundation of the Roman Catholic Church that was born of the Roman Caesar Constantine's desire for more power.
The Council of Nicaea
Who was present when Constantine established the religion
While there is no written record of the council there is a painting surviving from it which is a snapshot of the meeting and gives an insight into the wretchedness of it. Arthur Stanley, theologian and Dean of Westminster, published his work in 1864 on the make-up of the council by piecing together evidence from this image and from documents and other things he had access to at that time. It is from this work that the following points were extracted.
It should be pointed out that old works like this were often corrupted by later 'do-gooders' in religious organizations and the public forum to protect the establishment. That's why old manuscripts are more precious than late publications.
The Assembly comprised opponents of each other from conflicts and religious differences. The idea of a unified future was profitable but most of the delegates lacked the logic, design and politics for productive conformity. Many attended only because of the summons and the threats of retaliation if they did not show up. The emperor's highly posted officials, scribes, leaders and bishops had persecuted them and silenced them before.
It was an odd and heated meeting held in the street with onlookers and interjections of all types. It led to conflicts among the public who would have seen this as a major event in their community and, no doubt, broadcast news items from it as things occurred. The diversity of views among the delegates would have also been contentious. Below is a list of just a few of them so as to convey an impression of the whole:
Arians: As sunrise worshipers they were already in favor of the Son of the sun or the son of man being represented in the person of the Pharaoh, Moses, Apollo, Chrishna, and others. Arius was described as the 'madman from area' or 'mars'. He was murdered before the proceedings ended.
Church of Egypt and Assyria: The delegates from these two places were shrill and able to persuade some issues their way.
Alexandria: Their bishop was the most learned and was titled pope or papa. But so were all Greek presbyters and Latin bishops so addressed. Pope did not apply to the Bishop of Rome until the 7thCAD (De Origin nom Papae, p60. cited Stanley)
Copts of Egypt: They hampered proceeding by not speaking Greek. They included Potammon whose name means dedicated to Ammon, an Egyptian Pharaoh and Paphuntius, whose name means dedicated to Nut (a version of Isus). Both had suffered persecution and their right eyes were ripped out by a sword and the sockets seared with a red hot iron. The latter also had his left leg hamstrung.
Syria: This delegation included more civilized and better educated people. The leader Eusthatius was persecuted as both Heathen and Christian and his surviving work is The Witch of Endor.
Caesarea: Bishop Eusebius was the Clerk of the Imperial Closet and very close to Constantine. His published works included a book fashioned on the Hexapla of origin. Potammon knew him from the persecutions and claimed he had sacrificed to an idol to avoid punishment. He was supported by the Palestinian bishops. Many called him a hypocrite. Atanasius called him an Arian.
India: John the Persian was accompanied by a band of eleven from this region and they were the only ones without mutilation or injuries. It is claimed that they bore the Chrisna doctrine, which fits the claim that Christianity is derived from Chrishna.
Neceasarea: It Bishop Paul arrived with 4 families who practiced Arianism. Their leader, Moses, was credited with miracles.
This is only a small section of the make up of the Council but it serves to show the diversity and the pain and suffering inflicted on them by Constantine and others. Now they were here, in his presence, to do his bidding.
You can check for yourself how much of this work was altered by Constantine. The Greek version that he translated orders the English one so that any changes will stand out,
If you are a true searcher for truth then this book may help you.
Mixture of Delegates from All Corners of the Empire
It was a mixture of people greatly at odds with each other. Many were intimidated, frightened, uneducated and poverty stricken as opposed to the richest and best in Constantine's Service
If you want to see what the original bible contained then don't go past the King James. It was copied from the original and has remained virtually unchanged. All other bibles have been tainted with church related contamination to serve their own purposes.
The King James Bible is the one used by me to undo all the stuff that the Catholic Church has put in place. My version is very old and does not have highlighted passages that tend to mislead readers. Mark out your own passages so they make sense to you.
How much do you know about the Council of Nicaea?
Have you knowledge of the Council. If so would you like to comment here
The Assembly comprised Two Halves - the educated rich and the uneducated poor
They were all sun worshipers and Islamic in their beliefs
The Assembly was made up of two sides. On the one hand the rough, simple and almost illiterate, who demonstrated passion for their faiths but little knowledge of their rights. Disunited and unmotivated they were no match for the well versed educated men of the other side. The otherr sided with Constantine and were unified, educated, confident and able to demonstrate logic as well as politics. They were also comfortable in the emperor's presence, often being coached by him or his bishop.
The mood of the Assembly is gauged by the opening ceremony when the illiterate, clothed mainly in rags, stood alongside the well dressed highest officials in the government and the Imperial Roman Religion. The former fidgeted and were hot and smelly as they waited impatiently for Constantine. The latter were clean, perfumed, well dressed and attended by their secretaries and other assistants. They were confident, calm and full of expectation.
Constantine arrived in pomp and splendor, tall and handsome, surrounded by guards, preceded by his insignia, he was secure in his office and confident in his purpose. Bedecked in his purple robe over the uniform of a general, bejeweled and with his court in tow he towered over the Assembly and stood like a God before them. When he finally sat so could they all be seated. There is no doubt that some shook with fear, others had to control their anger, while others still were overawed and full of admiration and excitement. They were in the presence of their king, the sole ruler of the vast empire and his power exuded from him.
Unification did not happen overnight but the Assembly represented the start of a new world order. Many opposed it while Constantine's compact Imperial Catholic Church was more important and overrode individual points of issues that might have continued to divide. A single religion to stem dissension and run by a collection of bishops, with power to send anyone to hell or to open the doors of heaven,formed a government of government that ensured the ruler security like no other king before him His interest was focused on the outcome, not the debate that produced it.
The bible states that Babylon took over as the influence and it was the old Capital city of the Amorites before Mari. Constantine, as shown here was an Amorite The bible states of him:
He had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the number of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is wisdom let him who hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Revelation 14:15-18
That is the number of Constantine, as shown to me by the Spirit and proven by the evidence. The image he put forth was Jesus Christ, for whom there is not a scarp of evidence except in the writings by his co-horts. And that will be the subject of the next lens.
The Plea from The Spirit
I have not sent them . . . yet they prophesy a lie in my name; that I might drive you out and that you might perish, ye, and the prophets that prophesy unto you.
What's You Opinion of the Debate - Could two such opposing sides find a common cause
Not only opposed to the emperor but many were strongly against the principles they had to agree to. So what do you think?
Did the delegates have much influence over Constantine's religion
Fall of the Roman Empire
Just over a hundred years after the formation of the Roman Catholic Church the empire came to an abrupt end. Historians ask why? But the message may lie in the activities engaged in.
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Some Light Relief - The Funny Side of Roman Life.
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