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Best Picture and better picture: Which Oscar winners were deserving and which films got cheated?

Updated on December 27, 2011

In honor of Oscar season, I've put this list together. I was inspired to do this by Cogerson's recent Best Picture hub. So thanks Bruce.

Best Picture and Better Picture: Which deserved to win and which did not?

When the Best Picture winner is announced at the Oscars, sometimes we says, “Yeah, that deserved it,” but then again, sometimes we say, “Are they kidding me?!” There are a lot of politics and extenuating factors in Hollywood that determine which film wins the big trophy. The worthy winner doesn’t always win. Going back over the 83 year history of the Academy Awards, I’m going to say which films I thought didn’t deserve to win and which should have. Let me know if you agree with my choices.


1927-8: The Winner-Wings

What should have won: Sunrise (Sunrise was given a special award for Artistic quality of production, but it was the best film of the year and should have won best picture.)

1928-9: Winner-Broadway Melody

What should have won: The Letter (although several films from 1929 are lost, so one of them may deserve the win.)

1929-30: Winner-All Quiet on the Western Front

I agree with this one.

1930-1: Winner-Cimarron

What Should Have Won: The Front Page

1931-2: Winner-Grand Hotel

I agree.

1932-3: Winner-Cavalcade

What should have won: The Private Life of Henry the Eighth.

1934: Winner: It Happened on Night

What should have won: The Thin Man

1935: Winner-Mutiny on the Bounty

I agree.

1936: Winner-The Great Ziegfeld

What should have won: Either My Man Godfrey or Mr. Deeds Goes to Town.

1937: The Life of Emil Zola

What should have won: The Good Earth

1938: You Can’t Take it With You

What should have won: The Adventures of Robin Hood

1939: Winner: Gone with the Wind

This was the greatest year ever for film. Gone with the Wind was a worthy winner, but so were Wuthering Heights, the Wizard of Oz, Stagecoach and Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Any of them could have won.

1940: Winner-Rebecca

What Should Have Won: The Grapes of Wrath

1941: Winner-How Green was my Valley

What should have won: Citizen Kane

1942: Winner-Mrs. Miniver

What should have won-The Magnificent Ambersons

1943: Winner-Casablanca

I agree.

1944: Winner-Going my Way

What should have won: Double Indemnity

1945: Winner-The Lost Weekend

What should have won-Mildred Pierce

1946: Winner-The Best Years of our Lives

What should have won: It’s a Wonderful Life

1947: Winner-Gentleman’s Agreement

What should have won-A Miracle of 34th street.

1948: Winner-Hamlet

What should have won-The Treasure of the Sierra Madre

1949: All the King’s Men

I agree.

1950: Winner-All About Eve

I agree.

1951: Winner-An American in Paris

What should have won- Either the African Queen or A Streetcar Named Desire.

1952: Winner-The Greatest Show on Earth.

What should have won-Either High Noon or the Quiet Man.

1953: Winner- From Here to Eternity

This was a worthy winner, but a good argument can be made for Shane.

1954: Winner-On the Waterfront

I agree.

1955: Winner-Marty

What should have won: Rebel without a Cause

1956: Winner-Around the World in 80 Days.

What should have won-Either Giant or the 10 Commandments.

1957: Winner- The Bridge on the River Kwai

I agree.

1958: Winner-Gigi

I agree.

1959: Ben-Hur

I agree.

1960: Winner-The Apartment.

What should have won-Either Spartacus, Psycho or Inherit the Wind.

1961: Winner-West Side Story

I agree.

1962: Lawrence of Arabia

This is a worthy winner but a good argument could be made for To Kill a Mockingbird.

1963: Winner-Tom Jones

What should have won-Either Hud or Lilies of the Field.

1964: winner- My Fair Lady

This is a worthy winner but a good case could be made for Dr. Strangelove.

1965: winner- The Sound of Music

I agree

1966: A Man for all Seasons

I agree

1967: In the Heat of the Night

What should have won: Either the Graduate or Bonnie and Clyde.

1968: Winner-Oliver

This is a worthy winner but a good argument could be made for either 2001: a Space Odyssey or the Lion in Winter.

1969: Winner-Midnight Cowboy

A worthy winner but you could argue for Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

1970: Winner-Patton

I agree

1971: Winner-The French Connection

I agree.

1972: Winner-The Godfather

I agree.

1973: Winner- The Sting

I agree

1974: Winner- The Godfather part 2.

This is a very worthy winner, but you could make a strong case for Chinatown.

1975: Winner- One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest

I agree.

1976: Winner- Rocky

A worthy choice, but you could make an argument for Taxi Driver or All the President’s Men.

1977: Winner-Annie Hall

I agree.

1978: Winner- The Deer Hunter

I agree.

1979: Winner- Kramer vs. Kramer

What should have won: Apocalypse Now

1980:Winner- Ordinary People

What should have won- Raging Bull

1981: Chariots of Fire

What should have won-Raiders of the Lost Ark

1982: Winner- Gandhi

I agree

1983: Winner- Terms of Endearment

What should have won- The Right Stuff

1984: Winner-Amadeus

I agree

1985: Winner- Out of Africa

I agree

1986: Winner-Platoon

I agree

1987: Winner- The Last Emperor

I agree

1988: winner: Rain Man

What should have won- Mississippi Burning

1989: Winner: Driving Miss Daisy

A worthy winner, but you could argue for Henry the fifth or Crimes & Misdemeanors.

1990: Winner: Dances with Wolves

What should have won-GoodFellas

1991: Winner-Silence of the Lambs

I agree

1992: Winner-Unforgiven

I agree

1993: Winner- Schindler’s List

I agree

1994: Winner- Forrest Gump

What should have won- Pulp Fiction

1995: Winner: Braveheart

What should have won- Apollo 13.

1996: Winner: the English Patient

What should have won- Fargo.

1997: Winner: Titanic

A good case could be made for As Good as it Gets and L.A. Confidential

1998: Winner: Shakespeare in Love

What should have won- Saving Private Ryan

1999: Winner- American Beauty

What should have won- the Sixth Sense

2000: Winner-Gladiator

What should have won- Traffic

2001: Winner- A Beautiful Mind

This is a worthy winner but you could argue for Gosford Park.

2002: Winner- Chicago

What should have won- Adaptation

2003: Winner- Lord of the Rings: Return of the King

This is a worthy winner, but you could argue for Mystic River or Lost in Translation.

2004: Winner- Million Dollar Baby

What should have won—Either The Aviator, Ray, Eternal Sunset of the Spotless Mind or Sideways.

2005: Winner- Crash

This is a worthy winner but you could make a case for Capote or the Constant Gardner.

2006: Winner- The Departed

What should have won: Either the Last King of Scotland, the Queen or Dream Girls.

2007: Winner: No Country for Old Men

I agree

2008: Winner: Slumdog Millionaire

This was a worthy winner but you could argue for the Reader, Frost/Nixon or the Wrestler.

2009: Winner- The Hurt Locker

I agree

2010: Winner- the King’s Speech

I agree.

So that’s my view on Best Picture winners and better pictures.

What do you think?



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      Rob 6 years ago from Oviedo, FL

      Thank you and welcome to Hubpages. I'll definitly take a look at your hubs.

      Thanks for commenting,


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      thatmovieguy71 6 years ago

      An excellent list! I am knew to Hubpages, and I have a few hubs already posted in regards to the Oscars. I agree with many of your pics - Raiders of the Lost Ark over Chariots of Fire, Mississippi Burning over Rain Man, etc. I look forward to seeing more of your hubs. I hope you can check mine out as well and give me a little feedback. Thanks!

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      FloraBreenRobison 6 years ago

      Hahaha Cogerson! I love your wording. Clooney isn't that bad. You may see his films a lot at this year's Oscars ceremony. He reminds me of old Hollywood because of his Aunt Rosemary. And the fact that he doesn't always take the lead role shows he is interested in the art of movie making, not just being a big star. That means he will enjoy a long career and not need to worry he is now 50.

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      UltimateMovieRankings 6 years ago from Virginia

      As for 2007.....I would have gone with ...Before The Devil Knows Your Dead, Into the Wild or even and it pains me to say this...Michael Clayton with George Clooney.

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      Steve Lensman 6 years ago from London, England

      Of the GG nominees you mention I've only seen Ides of March and it was good but I would never buy it on disc. (I did buy both Green Lantern and Transformers 3 on blu-ray, he shamelessly admitted).

      The only one from that lot I would root for is Spielberg's Warhorse and Hugo if that gets nominated. I'm pretty sure both of them will end up in the collection right next to Cowboys & Apes and Rise of the Aliens.

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      Rob 6 years ago from Oviedo, FL

      Steve; Hmmm, Green lantern and Transformers 3 are going to be hard to beat at oscar time. Maybe "the 3 musketeers" can pull an upset.

      The "Golden Globes" will be January 15th. The nominees are "the Descendants", "the Help", "the Ides of March", "Moneyball" and "Warhorse".

      Good year for Clooney (Sorry Bruce) with two films. I think at this point "the Descendants" is the favorite, but who knows.

      I've only seen the Descendants, Ides of march and Hugo so far. I'll probably see "War Horse" before the 15th.

      The "day the Earth Stood Still' is another favorite of mine. I've seen it a dozen times. Demille should have gotten the oscar for "10 commandments".


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      Steve Lensman 6 years ago from London, England

      Well just to list a few faves that weren't Oscar nominated I would have picked The Good the Bad and the Ugly for 1966 and You Only Live Twice for 1967 and new Bond Casino Royale over The Departed which I'm not really a fan of but was happy to see Scorsese finally get his Oscar.

      As much as I liked Scorsese's Goodfellas I thought Kevin Costner richly deserved his win in 1990 and so did Mel Gibson in 1995.

      And as much as I love those MGM musicals I would have picked The Day The Earth Stood Still for 1951, what can I say I have a weakness for sci-fi.

      But I would have given De Mille an Oscar for the stupendously huge Ten Commandments even if I've seen the fabulous Forbidden Planet many more times. :)

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      Rob 6 years ago from Oviedo, FL

      Bruce; I always thought "Forrest Gump" was over-rated. "Pulp Fiction" was a real original.

      I echo Steve's question; what's your pick for 2007?


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      Rob 6 years ago from Oviedo, FL

      Hi Steve; Good list. I'm impressed with how quick you came up with that. I agree with many of your choices. The hardest part is to stick with the oscar nominated films and not slip all my personal favorites in there. I'd have picked "Duck Soup" or "King Kong" for 1933 if I didn't stick to the academy picks.

      Thanks for adding to the discussion;


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      Steve Lensman 6 years ago from London, England

      The ending wasn't that horrible Bruce, Javier Bardem did manage to get away! :) Which film would you have picked for 2007?

      My pick for this years Oscar biggie is between The Green Lantern and Transformers 3. I haven't decided yet.

      When are the Golden Globes on? They're usually a good indicator of what the Oscars have in store.

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      UltimateMovieRankings 6 years ago from Virginia

      I am shocked that Steve picked Ben-Hur as the 1959 I would have to agree with you and Steve about Pulp Fiction winning over Forrest Gump. And looking at 2007, I love the Coen brothers but I did not like No Country For Old Men...a horrible ending and not an enjoyable movie to watch.

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      Steve Lensman 6 years ago from London, England

      Part Two

      (all my picks are Oscar nominated films)

      1980: Winner-Ordinary People / MY CHOICE-Raging Bull

      1981: Winner-Chariots of Fire / MY CHOICE-Raiders of the Lost Ark

      1982: Winner-Gandhi / MY CHOICE-Blade Runner

      1983: Winner-Terms of Endearment / MY CHOICE-The Right Stuff

      1984: Winner-Amadeus / MY CHOICE-A Passage to India

      1985: Winner-Out of Africa / MY CHOICE-Brazil

      1986: Winner-Platoon / MY CHOICE-Platoon-Aliens (tie)

      1987: Winner-The Last Emperor / MY CHOICE-The Untouchables

      1988: Winner-Rain Man / MY CHOICE-Mississippi Burning

      1989: Winner-Driving Miss Daisy / MY CHOICE-Born on the Fourth of July

      1990: Winner-Dances with Wolves

      1991: Winner-Silence of the Lambs

      1992: Winner-Unforgiven

      1993: Winner-Schindler’s List

      1994: Winner-Forrest Gump / MY CHOICE-Pulp Fiction

      1995: Winner-Braveheart

      1996: Winner-The English Patient / MY CHOICE-Fargo

      1997: Winner-Titanic

      1998: Winner-Shakespeare in Love / MY CHOICE-Saving Private Ryan

      1999: Winner-American Beauty

      2000: Winner-Gladiator

      2001: Winner-A Beautiful Mind / MY CHOICE-Fellowship of the Ring

      2002: Winner-Chicago / MY CHOICE-The Two Towers

      2003: Winner-Return of the King

      2004: Winner-Million Dollar Baby / MY CHOICE-The Aviator

      2005: Winner-Crash / MY CHOICE-Munich

      2006: Winner-The Departed

      2007: Winner-No Country for Old Men

      2008: Winner-Slumdog Millionaire

      2009: Winner-The Hurt Locker

      2010: Winner-the King’s Speech

      Well thats it, my choices would be a lot different if I was to pick personal favourites over movies that were Oscar nominated. For instance I would have picked Frankenstein for 1931. King Kong for 1933. A Night At the Opera for 1935. :)

      I enjoyed that Rob. Voted Up and Interesting.

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      Steve Lensman 6 years ago from London, England

      Right, good topic Rob. We would argue about these all the time on the movie forum.

      I agree with some of your choices, here are mine -

      (all my picks are Oscar nominated films)

      1927-28: Winner-Wings

      1928-29: Winner-Broadway Melody

      1929-30: Winner-All Quiet on the Western Front

      1930-31: Winner-Cimarron

      1931-32: Winner-Grand Hotel /MY CHOICE-Dr.Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

      1932-33: Winner-Cavalcade /MY CHOICE-I am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang

      1934: Winner: It Happened on Night

      1935: Winner-Mutiny on the Bounty / MY CHOICE-Captain Blood

      1936: Winner-The Great Ziegfeld / MY CHOICE-Mr. Deeds Goes to Town

      1937: Winner-The Life of Emil Zola / MY CHOICE-Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs

      1938: Winner-You Can’t Take it With You / MY CHOICE-Adventures of Robin Hood

      1939: Winner: Gone with the Wind

      1940: Winner-Rebecca

      1941: Winner-How Green was my Valley / MY CHOICE-Citizen Kane

      1942: Winner-Mrs. Miniver / MY CHOICE-Yankee Doodle Dandy

      1943: Winner-Casablanca

      1944: Winner-Going my Way / MY CHOICE-Meet Me in St.Louis

      1945: Winner-The Lost Weekend / MY CHOICE-Spellbound

      1946: Winner-The Best Years of our Lives / MY CHOICE-It's a Wonderful Life

      1947: Winner-Gentleman’s Agreement / MY CHOICE-Great Expectations

      1948: Winner-Hamlet / MY CHOICE-Treasure of the Sierra Madre

      1949: Winner-All the King’s Men / MY CHOICE-On the Town

      1950: Winner-All About Eve / MY CHOICE-Sunset Boulevard

      1951: Winner-An American in Paris

      1952: Winner-The Greatest Show on Earth / MY CHOICE-Singin' in the Rain

      1953: Winner-From Here to Eternity

      1954: Winner-On the Waterfront / MY CHOICE-Rear Window

      1955: Winner-Marty / MY CHOICE-Mister Roberts

      1956: Winner-Around the World in 80 Days / MY CHOICE-The Ten Commandments

      1957: Winner-The Bridge on the River Kwai

      1958: Winner-Gigi / MY CHOICE-The Big Country

      1959: Winner-Ben-Hur

      1960: Winner-The Apartment / MY CHOICE-Spartacus-Psycho (tie)

      1961: Winner-West Side Story

      1962: Winner-Lawrence of Arabia

      1963: Winner-Tom Jones / MY CHOICE-The Great Escape

      1964: winner-My Fair Lady / MY CHOICE-Dr. Strangelove

      1965: winner-The Sound of Music / MY CHOICE-Doctor Zhivago

      1966: Winner-A Man for all Seasons / MY CHOICE-The Professionals

      1967: Winner-In the Heat of the Night

      1968: Winner-Oliver / MY CHOICE-2001 A Space Odyssey

      1969: Winner-Midnight Cowboy / MY CHOICE-The Wild Bunch

      1970: Winner-Patton

      1971: Winner-The French Connection

      1972: Winner-The Godfather

      1973: Winner-The Sting / MY CHOICE-The Exorcist

      1974: Winner-The Godfather part 2.

      1975: Winner-One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest / MY CHOICE-Jaws

      1976: Winner-Rocky

      1977: Winner-Annie Hall / MY CHOICE-Star Wars

      1978: Winner-The Deer Hunter

      1979: Winner-Kramer vs. Kramer / MY CHOICE-Apocalypse Now- Alien (tie)

      Part two coming up.

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      Rob 6 years ago from Oviedo, FL

      Flora; Interesting. I didn't know that "It happened one night" was a toss-away script. It's funny how films defy expectations. No one expected "Casablanca" to be as acclaimed as it was. "Star wars" only got a 10 million dollar budget because they expected it to flop. Sometimes you just don't know.

      Thanks for the information, Flora,


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      FloraBreenRobison 6 years ago

      I can't remember why Louis B. Meyer was mad at him, but as a script, everyone who read it hated it and several people turned it down-including Myrna loy, by the way. No one wanted to make it. Meyer loaned his star to the "poverty row" studio and that's the only reason why the film got made. The movie was finished in two weeks. At the end of filming, Colbert called it "The worst film (she'd) ever made." Meanwhile, it won all five major Oscars- a rare event.

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      Rob 6 years ago from Oviedo, FL

      Hi Bruce;p wow! thanks for all the extra information. I'll have to look into Danny Peary's book. I see I'm not the only one who thinks that the oscar academy misses the mark much of the time.

      Looking over his list, I think he is right about 1931. "City Lights" was the best film that year. I missed that one in my research somehow (amazingly, it wasn't nominated for anything that year) but Dan Peary is on-the-nose there. At least we agree that 'Cimeron' did not deserve to win.

      He's actully got a point about 'King Kong', too, because it is a great film, (one of my all-time favorites) but it just doesn't strike me as Oscar material. It's a great film but not an artistic film, if you see the difference.

      I knew I had to go along with 'Ben Hur' or I'd hear from Steve Lensman.

      Thanks for all the great input, and for giving me the idea in the first place.

      Always a pleasure to hear from you,


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      UltimateMovieRankings 6 years ago from Virginia

      1971: Rob-French Connection Danny-McCabe and Mrs. Miller

      1972: Rob and Bruce and Danny- The Godfather

      1973: Rob- The Sting Danny- American Graffiti

      1974: Rob, Bruce and Danny - Chinatown

      1975: Rob-One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest Danny and Bruce- The Man Who Would Be King

      1976: Rob-Taxi Driver or All The President's Men....Danny-The Front

      1977: Rob and Danny- Annie Hall Bruce and Steve- Star Wars

      1978: Rob-The Deer Hunter Danny-Coming Home

      1979: Rob-Apocalypse Now Danny-Manhattan

      1980: Rob and Danny-Raging Bull Bruce-The Elephant Man

      1981: Rob and Bruce- Raiders of the Lost Ark Danny-Reds

      1982: Rob-Gandhi- Danny-ET Bruce- Blade Runner

      1983: Rob and Danny- The Right Stuff

      1984: Rob- Amadeus Danny-The Killing Fields

      1985: Rob-Out of Africa Danny And Bruce- Brazil

      1986: Rob, Danny and Bruce - Platoon

      1987: Rob-The Last Emperor Danny and Bruce-Empire of the Sun

      1988: Mississippi Burning, Danny-A World Apart, Bruce-Dangerous Liasons

      1989: Rob-Henry V or Crimes and Misdemeanors Danny-Henry V, Bruce-Field of Dreams

      1990: Rob-Good Fellas Danny-Miller's Crossing Bruce-Confused either Good Fellas or Miller's Crossing would have been better than Dances with Wolves.

      1991: Rob-Silence of the Lambs Danny-An Angel At My Table

      His book is already 20 years out of date.....but I have to mention 1998-Saving Private Ryan should have never lost to Shakespeare in Love. Love the hub...hope these three long messages were not to long....but I respect both of your opinions so I thought it would be interesting to compare the I threw some of my opinions in as well....voted up and awesome and interesting and useful.

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      Rob 6 years ago from Oviedo, FL

      Hi Flora; "It happened one night" was a punishment? What was Gable being punished for? This was before "Mutiny on the Bounty" and "Gone with the Wind" so he hadn't reached his peak yet.

      I'm biased toward the "Thin Man", too, mostly because I'm such a huge Myrna Loy fan.

      I've read that after "It happened one night" came out, sales of under shirts dropped because Gable wasn't wearing one when he undressed so it was no longer seen as stylish.

      Thanks for the info,


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      UltimateMovieRankings 6 years ago from Virginia

      The Danny Peary book is called Alternate Oscar.....the comparison continues.

      1951: Rob-African Queen or Streetcar named Desire Danny- Strangers on a Train

      1952: Rob- High Noon or The Quiet Man Danny- Singin' in the Rain

      1953: Rob and Danny Shane

      1954: Rob- On the Waterfront Danny-The Salt of Earth

      1955: Rob-Rebel Without a Cause Danny- The Night of the Hunter

      1956: Rob-Giant 10 Commandments Danny- The Searchers

      1957: Rob-Bridge on River Kwai Danny- Paths of Glory

      1958: Rob- Gigi Danny- Touch of Evil

      1959: Rob- Ben Hur, Danny - Some Like it Hot , Steve Lensman - Ben-Hur

      1960: Rob- Spatacus, Inherit the Wind, Psycho Danny-Psycho

      1961: Rob and Danny - West Side Story

      1962: Rob-Lawrence of Arabia Danny- Ride the High Country

      1963: Rob-Hud or Lillies of the Field Danny-None worthy

      1964: Rob and Danny- Dr. Strangelove

      1965: Rob- The Sound of Music Danny- Repulsion

      1966: Rob-A Man For All Seasons Danny- Cul-de-Sac

      1967: Rob- Graduate or Bonnie and Clyde Danny-Bonnie and Clyde

      1968: Rob- 2001 or Lion in the Winter Danny- 2001

      1969: Rob and Bruce-Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid Danny-Once Upon A Time in the West

      1970: Rob-Patton Danny-Five Easy Pieces

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      UltimateMovieRankings 6 years ago from Virginia

      Hey Rob....great hub and thanks for the shout-out....there is an awesome book by Danny Peary that does this exact thing and I thought it would be interesting to see where the two of you both agree on Sunrise

      1928-29: Rob- The Letter Danny- The Wind

      1929-30: Rob/Danny both All Quiet on the Western Front

      1930-31: Rob- The Front Page Danny- City Lights

      1931-32: Rob- The Grand Hotel Danny-Scarface

      1932-33: Rob- Private Life Of HenryVIII- Danny-King Kong

      1934: Rob-The Thin Man Danny-The Scarlet Empress

      1935: Rob-Mutiny on Bounty Danny-The 39 Steps

      1936: Rob-My Man Godfrey/Mr. Deeds Danny-Modern Times

      1937: Rob-The Good Earth Danny-Stage Door

      1938: Rob-Robin Hood Danny-Robin Hood

      1939: Rob-Many Movies Danny-Wizard of Oz

      1940: Rob and Danny - The Grapes of Wrath

      1941: Rob and Danny - Citizen Kane

      1942: Rob-Magnificent Ambersons Danny-Sullivan's Travels

      1943: Rob and Danny - Casablanca

      1944: Rob and Danny - Double Indemnity

      1945: Rob-Mildred Pierce Danny- They Were Expendable

      1946: Rob and Danny It's A Wonderful Life

      1947: Rob-Mircle 34th Street Danny-Monsieur Verdoux

      1948: Rob and Danny - Treasure of Sierre Madre

      1949: Rob- All The King's Men Danny- Gun Crazy

      1950: Rob-All About Eve Danny- Sunset Blvd

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      FloraBreenRobison 6 years ago

      Interesting about The Thin Man vs. It Happened One Night. I haven't talked about It Happened One Night a lot before, but this is one of the few comedies I've seen multiple times and never tire of watching. Both of these films were expected to pass through the theatres quickly and be forgotten as they were being made. IHON was actually a punishment film for Gable. And here both of them were nominated and are well loved. My love of thin man films are what I call a bias towards and must keep that in mind too.

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      Rob 6 years ago from Oviedo, FL

      Hi Greensleeves; Good to hear from you again. I think you're right about hindsight. I'm sure that there are a lot of voters who, years later, said "what was I thinking?" I imagine that when "Citizen Kane" flopped at the box office, no one would have guessed that it would be considered the best film ever made 60 years later.

      'In the Heat of the Night' and 'Dances with wolves' wre both godd films (even though I'm not personally a fan of "Dances') but I just felt the alternatives were a tad better.

      Thanks for the input,


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      Rob 6 years ago from Oviedo, FL

      Hi Alecia; Thanks. I'm sure some will agree and some will disagree with my choices, and of course its all subjective, but I often tend to disagree with the academy.

      "Social Network" is a very socially relevent and timely movie but I'll still stick with "the King's speech" for 2010.

      I'm waiting to see wht will be nominated this year. I have my own theories but we'll see.

      Thanks for stopping by,


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      Greensleeves Hubs 6 years ago from Essex, UK

      Well Rob, I guess you're expecting all kinds of disagreements over a list like this!

      I can't comment on many because I don't watch sufficient movies, but I think I'd agree rather more than I disagree between your choices and the actual winners. Notably, I'd agree with you about The Treasure of Sierra Madre and The African Queen and Apollo 13 and Saving Private Ryan.

      But, I have to say I think In the Heat of the Night and Dances With Wolves are both great films, great stories, and deserving winners!

      Some films don't get a mention including some of my personal favourites - The Big Country, The Untouchables and Nottinghill, and recent historical dramas which I like such as Kingdom of Heaven and Master and Commander.

      I suspect Rob, that if the Academy had the gift of hindsight they would certainly change a few of the awards. They clearly could not have foreseen that Citizen Kane, and It's a Wonderful Life, would be regarded as timeless highly respected classics, whilst the character of Indiana Jones would become a Hollywood legend after Raiders. I also think Star Wars should have been awarded an Oscar - a real ground breaking movie in so many ways.

      Well anyway, it's a good list and bound to provoke debate.

      Voted up.

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      Alecia Murphy 6 years ago from Wilmington, North Carolina

      This is a great list. And I agree with a few of your alternates like Double Indemnity, Mildred Pierce, and The Queen. Some I'm not too sure about since I haven't seen them but I think Social Network should've won last year. Yes Colin Firth is a perennially brilliant actor but as a whole The Social Network captured a moment in time as eloquently as any film like The Best Years of Our Lives. However, since the Academy has yet to fully modernize I'm not surprised. It'll be very interesting to see what comes out on top this season. Great hub!

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      Rob 6 years ago from Oviedo, FL

      Hi Flora; The last few years I've agreed with the Oscar winners. It's been about 5 years since the last one I dispute. I try to see all the films which are nominated in the theaters before Oscar time but sometimes I can't so i see them in retrospect. Most of the classic films on the list I've seen over the course of 40 years, but there may be better films I haven't seen (obviously I haven't seen every film ever made) so there may be Better 'better pictures' out there somewhere.

      I thought you'd agree about 'the Thin Man', though.

      I haven't seen "Yellow Sky". I'll have to watch that.

      thanks for the input, Flora,


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      FloraBreenRobison 6 years ago

      Actually, I find I agree with the winners much more than you-I'd say about 90% of the time I agree with the winners-when I've seen them all. Now in some years, I have not been able to see every movie that was nominated, I realize this. But in terms of the years where I have seen them, I don't actually have a problem with the choices unless two strong contenders split the vote and the third one won, and not always then. In some cases I think the film that did win was equally excellent to your alternate choice - clasic era years only, of course. It has been a long time since there where there were several contenders who were worthy of Best Picture.

      But I do agree with your alternate choices for 1938, 1941, 1960 (though you haven't picked one, I'd say Spartacus as epics are fabulous).

      Of course, in years since I was born I rarely saw all the films, so I can't say. I have this bias against Woody allen, Titanic, movies that celebrate how great the mafia is, etc. so I'd rather they didn't win regardless of what the other films were, but that's something different.

      Now off to watch Yellow Sky to celebrate the late Richard Widmark's birthday today, title chosen because Harry Morgan is in it and he recently died - I like to do this at the end of the year.

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      jeyaramd 6 years ago from Mississauga, Ontario

      I sure will. Thanks a million. There is nothing like quality cinema.

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      Rob 6 years ago from Oviedo, FL

      You're welcome, jeyaramd; Glad you liked it. I agree that "the King's Speech" was great. If you get a chance, check out some of the other films on this list I picked. They're all worth seeing,

      Thanks for stopping by,


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      jeyaramd 6 years ago from Mississauga, Ontario

      Thank you for this wonderful list. I haven't seen many of the movies mentioned here. The recent best picture, The King's Speech, was very deserving. It was a great movie. I enjoyed Colin Firth and Geoffrey. They were on top of their game. Well screenplay did not lag at all considering it was a historic film. Have to check out the rest of the best pictures. Thanks for the great hub.


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