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Billie Eilish - Torok Thoughts

Updated on April 26, 2019
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20 years old, screenwriter, student. Sharing his thoughts on different subjects that come to mind.

Billie Eilish 08/10/2017
Billie Eilish 08/10/2017 | Source

Let me start off by saying that if you enjoy her music and get something out of it then awesome. That's great. Enjoying music is such a nice treat and can help you through a lot of stuff. I've been having problems with some depression and anxiety and found out that nothing helps me more than listening to Enya. It's just about the most relaxing and calming music you can find. Beautiful stuff.

So if you enjoy Billie Eilish then it's cool and you should definitely tell me why. Because I don't get it.

I just wanted to clarify that I'm not trying to attack anyone for enjoying a certain artist, I am just sharing my thoughts.

My thoughts

I found out about Eilish when noticed my YouTube recommended box being filled with clips of her. My Facebook timeline was also pretty packed with posts about her. Most of the posts were negative, though. One quote that I kept seeing was:

"Billie Eilish makes music for young girls who thinks having a depression is cool."

Of course, I had to check it out after seeing that. So I Googled her name and found her music video for "bad guy". I watched about 1 minute and then closed it. I couldn't listen to it. The lyrics were bad. I didn't like the beat. The worst thing though was the music video.

I get that you're trying to be edgy and different. I really get it. But that's not the way to do it. Absurdity is an art form. One that I enjoy. You can't just put random things in your video that you think of. If you want to be different, you'll have to actually try. You can't just do weird things in random order and then sing your just as random lyrics.

Eventually, I listened to the song in its entirety. The rest of the video didn't add much to my opinion. It was just more of the same. The same exact scenes, actually. I hoped that at some point it would give me something that would make me understand it, but I didn't find it. I wanted to hear or see something that made me see what the fuzz was all about. The lyrics were the same. Short sentences with no meaning behind them.

"You just don't get it, Torok. It's her art and you're just some guy."

Maybe I don't get it. Maybe it's true art. I'm no artist. But in my opinion, there has to be something behind your art. Like some sort of deeper meaning. Something that makes people think.

Having a nosebleed isn't really edgy. Smudging it around your face isn't either. I've woke up in the morning with blood around my face and fingers multiple times just this month. I didn't film it though.

"Okay, then I'd like to see you make a better music video!"

I really hate that argument. Even though I was the one making it right here. I've heard it so many times. "Do you think you could do better?". When someone puts something out in the world, I'm allowed to criticise it. When a footballer plays badly I'm allowed to call it out. I know I couldn't play better ball. The difference is that I'm not trying. I didn't try to make a video. I'm not trying to be something I'm not. I just have thoughts and I say them out loud. I can have an opinion without being able to do better.

In conclusion

It's very likely that it's just not for me. People like different kinds of music. I just had the idea that this could have been my kind of music. Turns out it was very far from it. Then again she is young. She has time to develop. In a few months, most likely she'll fall out of relevancy. That might be a chance for her to rethink her music. Put some more work into her lyrics. Maybe try to be more natural. She could stop pushing the absurdity. Keep it at a point where she can actually manage it. I've listened to a couple of her tracks and they're definitely not all that bad.

In the end, it is just my thoughts. But that's what I'm trying to do with this series of articles. My girlfriend is tired of listening to some of my thoughts about artists and movies. So now you get to listen to them instead.

I'll leave you with this video. I enjoyed it quite a lot. Truly a talented man.

© 2019 Vincenty Torok

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