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Nude vs. Naked, Art vs. Erotica

Updated on February 9, 2010

When my girlfriend asked me to take some seductive pictures of her for her new beau, I was more that happy to comply. I’m a very amateur photographer but have a decent camera. She’s an ex-model, so I figured we could probably get some good shots. I wanted to do something artistic. But started wondering after her request and after reading Cris A’s hub: Pablo Neruda and nude celebrities, what is art and what is erotica? Is it a nude or is it just naked? And who decides? Is it the choice of the beholder or do those with masters in art get to pass judgement? I've decided for this hub, it is you that gets to decide.

My qualifications are only slightly educated. I was raised in and around an art gallery, as my family owned one before I was born and sold it when I was in my thirties. I never minored in art but should have with all the art classes I took, among them figure drawing. Strangely I was the only youngster in the class and several of my classmates were artists who showed “other” type's of art in our gallery. First day of that class, I was 19 and faced with my first nude male model. The only seat left was front and center; that is a funny story for another hub. I did however, learn a lot about the human form that semester and the next.

I was also educated by a three foot stack of playboys from the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. My grandfather had quite the collection. During summers as a preteen I would stay at my grandparent’s ranch. One magazine per night, I would study these pictures by kerosene lamp. I have got to say Playboy did nudes back then and they were quite beautiful. Today the pictures in Playboy are, in my opinion, naked. Maybe it had something to do with the earlier photos being in black and white. I feel that black and white is more artsy, and I chose black and white for my photos, when the contrast was strong enough. The previous and following photos are examples in black and white from our little photo shoot.

Staying with the idea of black and white, another question presents itself.  Does the  face verses just seeing the form as a landscape or a study of tangled limbs in light and shadow change the way you view a photo? Does it effect your determination of its artfulness? If I remove the face, does it remove the judgement?

And finally color, how does it make you feel to see these images in color? Does it make any difference to you at all? Are you so thoroughly stuck in this modern age that you see see black and white as a malfunction. If so, thank you for hanging in this far. Just hit your monitor with the palm of your hand. The color is about to fall into place.

Here are similar photographs in full color. Does it change your feeling about the vulgarness or lack there of? If I had used something more subtle that red perhaps, would it matter? Or is it more the tone of the flesh that becomes too real and therefore less artistic? Perhaps its no different at all. Color, I feel brings your attention away from light and shadow which are inherently artistic components, but color and its saturation can be quite powerful too. How do these photos in full color make you feel as compared to black and white?

I've decided not to do polls, instead I look forward to your comments.

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      Randy Behavior 6 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Thank you for sharing him with me. He is fabulous. I love his venetian blind work and the watery pieces too. Outstanding!

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      Kelley 6 years ago from California

      I certainly enjoy these "nudes," as I would call them. Have you seen any photos by Lucien Clergue? If you like nudes, you'll like his. Later!

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      Randy Behavior 6 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Hi Joy. Yea its still here but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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      Joy56 6 years ago

      this sure is spanning the test of time, i think it may survive the cutting edge.... lets see

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      Randy Behavior 6 years ago from Near the Ocean

      The ads have been disabled on this and they will probably unpublish it at some point. I've had other hubs killed off this way. Guess I'm just too naughty for HP. Which is pretty funny, cause I'm soooo vanilla.

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      MrDSpade2 6 years ago

      I say damn those old timers, how can they attest, when the female body is truly a work of art.

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      Randy Behavior 6 years ago from Near the Ocean

      No MrSpade this is not me. I did do a nude pictorial of me, but its gone now. Old timers around here can attest to it.

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      MrDSpade2 6 years ago

      Ahh yes, beautiful photographic art, but tell me Randy Behavior, you sure that isn't you?

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      Randy Behavior 6 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Yes that seems to be the general consensus. Black and white is just more artsy.

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      Chip 6 years ago from Cold Mountain

      Color is for vacation snap shots.

      Black and white is for the grit of reality.

      Interesting hub. (BTW - beautiful model!)

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      Randy Behavior 6 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Hmmmm wine might help :)

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      nelson soares 6 years ago from Sunny Algarve

      Love the B&W shots, love to shoot...Now if only my girlfriend were less shy...

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      Randy Behavior 6 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Glad you approve Nash. My girlfriend is indeed a beauty... in and out.

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      Nash 6 years ago

      Great pics Randy. The second one was the best.

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      Randy Behavior 6 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Thanks for coming by Joy. There is a whole generation of new hubbers just now discovering it.

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      Joy56 6 years ago

      i read this hub before and of course looked at the pictures, and was surprised to see it up there again. some interesting pictures there for sure.....

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      Randy Behavior 6 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Glad you liked em.

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      sameerk 6 years ago from India

      very nice pic

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      Randy Behavior 7 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Well I'm glad I made you see the art itech! Thanks for the comment.

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      Krishna 7 years ago from New Delhi, India

      Interesting shots, first time noticed the art in such photographs...

      Great Work!!!!

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      Randy Behavior 7 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Definitely the crowd you run with effects your opinion of what artful and what is naughty. My ex's family is much more conservative than my family. Their influence over me made me less confident about nudes and nude photography for sure. If I was in Montreal is the sixties I surely would be naked, posed and proud... of course I'd be three years old.

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      saddlerider1 7 years ago

      I to was a student of Art back in the sixties in Montreal where so many artists showed their forms freely in the galleries and on the sidewalks and nearby beatnik cafes.

      I love shade, chalk, pastel and color. However I feel one does not capture the same mood, depth, tone, shadows and mystique that black and white offers us.

      Grant it color is wonderful, but my choice would be black and white photography. It jumps out at you and with respect to working with nudes. I love the mood, sensuality and eroticism that black and white conveys.

      My two cents as an amateur artist, although all of these shots taken by your artistic eye show form in different moods. My preference no doubt were your black and white shots.

      Great work Randy, I am happy to have come here and seen your photography at work. Peace

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      Randy Behavior 7 years ago from Near the Ocean

      I think she leaves them all happy Epigram, until she leaves them.

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      epigramman 7 years ago

      I would say that your model/friend has one lucky beau - and that your camera must be happy to be in your hands

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      Randy Behavior 7 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Thank you Eddie. I need to learn more about lighting, but love B&W also.

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      Seldon55 7 years ago from Somewhere in Florida

      I love B@W photography. It adds more to the subject by letting the viewer fill in color, hue and soften the contrast of the picture with subtleties of their own. this series allows you to show the whole woman without showingthe whole woman...Great Job....Eddie

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      Randy Behavior 7 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Thank you RedSelassie for your comment. :)

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      Sharif Selassie 7 years ago

      Black and white is so much richer than color--its amazing--keep up the good work

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      Randy Behavior 7 years ago from Near the Ocean

      So glad you enjoyed Ashimajain.

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      ashimajain 7 years ago from India

      Excellent post! I really enjoyed reading it. I will be back for more!

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      Randy Behavior 7 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Thank you Poppa. I find women's bodies quite beautiful so this is a fun, new creative outlet for me.

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      Poppa Blues 7 years ago

      Art is definitely in the eye of the beholder! I'd say you have an eye for it! The pics are tasteful and the poses stir one's erotic desires without overexposing the subject leaving just enough to the imagination. Well done!

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      lxxy 7 years ago from Beneath, Between, Beyond

      I do believe so..to me, they strike the perfect balance. =)

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      Randy Behavior 7 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Thanks for your comment Ixxy. I intended them to be artistic, the model intended them to be sexy. I think "beautiful" is a good outcome. :)

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      lxxy 7 years ago from Beneath, Between, Beyond

      These are very beautiful.

      Great lighting, by the way.

      I think the difference between nude and erotica is the intent behind it. Not to mention sexy is in the eye of the beholder. ;)

      But there's a huge difference between butt shots and posing in ways that just seems the subject in the photograph is relaxed and comfortable in their birthday suit.

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      Randy Behavior 7 years ago from Near the Ocean

      That seems to be the consensus. I only did black and whites in the second pictorial because the feeling was so strong.

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      whispers of faith 7 years ago

      i believe that the black and white pictures were more artsy than the colored ones.

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      Randy Behavior 7 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Thank you Cheeky Girl. I will google her right now.

      Thanks for commenting Scott. That seems to be the general consensus.

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      Scott.Life 7 years ago

      I have to go with the black and white. The contrast seems more apparent and gives the photo more depth.

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      Cassandra Mantis 7 years ago from UK and Nerujenia

      Wow, this is really good! If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion, randy behaviour - but check out the works of Sally Mann, a really cool black and white American Photographer - you would like her work! Well done! I'm a fan!

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      Randy Behavior 7 years ago from Near the Ocean

      In our culture the word nude is used to describe art, while naked means no clothes. :)

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      prasetio30 7 years ago from malang-indonesia

      I think those word have the same meaning. Thanks for the woman art picture.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Yes they are... in my humble opinion. I could be wrong let me check again. Ya, I think they are both, well. Hold on a minute..... yes they are.... yep still think they are.

      Excuse me though I need a cold drink.

      Just kidding RDF (sorta) thank you for your insightful comments.

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      rdfrank67 8 years ago from Seattle

      RB-

      As a photographer I prefer black and white or sepia tones. the is something inately sensual about the subtle tone gradients that are achieved with B&W.

      I also like color photography for some sensual shots, but usually try to create something with deep shadows for a more dramtic shot.

      The main difference between an erotic/artful photo and today's Playboy type shots is what is left to your imagination. If everything is exposed and in bright shining detail, then the viewer is overwhelmed, something needs to be left up to you to imagine, it's a combination of the photographers imagination and the viewers that makes it art or erotica.

      My humble opinion.

      Are both of these photo's art?

      <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rdfrank67/3397541587/... title="Torso2 BW by rdfrank67, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3442/3397541587_223... width="334" height="500" alt="Torso2 BW" /></a>

      <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rdfrank67/3390835622/... title="Torso2 by rdfrank67, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3567/3390835622_63a... width="334" height="500" alt="Torso2" /></a>

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Moyra, the fourth is my favorite too. Its like a landscape. I definitely find women's bodies more beautiful than men's. I think we are raised to appreciate women's bodies as moving art forms. Not that I'm not attracted to men's bodies. I am. But more in a "yum" sorta way. lol.

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      Moyra 8 years ago

      As an artist I love nudes and in particular the female form. (even though I am female, I am yet to be artistically moved by the male form it may be something to do with the curves and roundness of the female form). The black and white photos felt more artsy and I was able to distance myself from the model. The colored photos for me were more raw and naked. I was most drawn to the faceless black and white photos particularly the fourth one from the top which is mostly the curve of her hip, waist and thigh. (it must be the curved lines which draw me). Thanks for sharing.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      ledefensetech, I love the way you described that, "a riot of color assaults your senses." If you read the comments here, you understand why I went all black and white in the second.

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      ledefensetech 8 years ago from Cape Girardeau, MO

      The B&W pictures have an etherealness to it I think that the color pictures lack. Still juxtaposing them like that is like a shot right to the senses. You get used to the soft and ephemeral lighting of the black and white, then POW a riot of color assaults your senses. The effect overall is stunning.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Kelly, We always skinny dipped in the river, which gives me a great idea for a photo project.

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      Kelly 8 years ago

      RB,

      Skinny dipping is the only way to swim. Not really, but I very much prefer it. My parents house, which is also the house I lived in for the first 21 years of my life, is out in the country. My parents got us a big inground pool when I was 3 years old. The closest house to ours was about 500 yards away, and we had a tall wooden fense around the backyard. My mother never bought my sister and I swimsuits until my sister was about 11 years old and I was about 9 years old at the time. And even then we only wore them if our father was at home or if we went swimming out in public. My father's job required him to travel a lot, so all the way until I moved out at age 21 I swam nude when my father wasn't home, and my sister did the same.

      I would still swim nude at night even if my father was at home because there was no way of accidentally seeing me or my sister, he knew we swam nude, so he wouldn't walk out into the backyard when he knew we were swimming.

      When my sister and I were in our teens our girllfriends always wanted to know when our father was away for his job so that they could come over and skinny dip with us when he wasn't home for a few days. A couple of our girlfriends liked to sunbathe nude, so they would sometimes ask if they could do that in our backyard too.

      I've always had a non-sexual appreciation for the nude female body. When I started in middle school and high school the mandatory showers in gym class did not bother me at all because I was already so used to being nude or seeing my female friends nude when we'd skinny dip. I couldn't really relate to any of the girls at that time in school who seemed to be embarrassed by having to shower in front of other girls in the class.

      I'm NOT a nudist, I'm much more conservative around males. But I'm glad to see that your another non-prude when it comes to nudity. Again, in a non-sexual way, it can be kind of fun to be nude with close girlfriends or female family members, be it swimming, the sauna, or just in a locker room.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Kelly, My Grandmother painted nudes. I took figure drawing. The women in my family had a tradition of multi-generational skinny dipping. So I would never judge you. As suggested in the comments above, I did pose for photos. Now I just have to decide if I want to do a hub about it and if I want to show my face or not. After seeing these photos a lot of my girlfriends want to be the next model too.

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      Kelly 8 years ago

      RB,

      I'm glad to hear that. Usually when I tell people how much I like to see an attractive female body in the nude they think I'm either a lesbian or weird. A good girlfriend of mine laughs at me because we workout together at a gym and sometime in the locker room I'll tell her to look at a nude woman across the room and I'll say something like "Wow, she has a beautiful tush," or "I love her breasts." She knows I'm NOT a lesbian, but she teases me about liking to look at nude women. Eventhough my physical desires are for men, I prefer to look at a beautiful nude female body.

      I hope some day to get the nerve up to pose for some tastefull nude photos. I'd either go to a professional photogropher or having a girlfriend or my sister photograph me.

      I love the scene in Titanic where Kate Winslet poses nude.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Then I'm not like Nimoy at all. All I had to do was NOT screw up the beauty put before me.

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      Jeffrey Penn May 8 years ago from St. Louis

      If I were the recipient, I would prefer the color photos. Yours are excellent by the way. Someone mentioned Nimoy... his trick is to find "beauty" in "ugliness."

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      RB, I always use sunscreen.

      Kelly I couldn't agree more, heterosexual also and think women's bodies are beautiful. You are one of the few who prefered color though.

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      Kelly 8 years ago

      I'm a heterosexual female. But in my opinion there is nothing more beautiful on earth than tastefull female nudes.

      My father had a Playboy subscription when I was young and I used to look through them too. I was in awe of how stunningly beautiful the ladies were in those issues.

      I prefer color photos over black and white.

      Your friend has a fantastic body, by the way.

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      R. Blue 8 years ago from Right here

      RB....I hope you didn't let anything get sunburned....send me the negatives.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Had just such a day today Blue. :)

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      R. Blue 8 years ago from Right here

      Let me know when you're ready for your day in the sun. I liked the color photos much better in this case because of the beautiful color of her skin.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      knell, Thanks for stopping by and giving me your two cents. :)

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      knell63 8 years ago from Umbria, Italy

      Beautiful set of prints, prefer the B&W, they have a more classic feel to them but loved the whole idea of playing the two off against each other.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Ralph - that photo at least, was really similar!

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Trooper - Or a mardi gras mask.

      Hsofyan - Thanks for coming by. I'm glad you like.

      Ralph - Thank you for the link!

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Here's a link to a famous nude photo by Edward Weston--

      http://www.artphotogallery.org/02/artphotogallery/...

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      hsofyan 8 years ago from Indonesia

      That's right. I agree with you.

      Women's rich artistic value. I like it.

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      trooper22 8 years ago from Chicago

      There's always the fan dance :)

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      I'm glad you like them Trooper. Yes, Kat wants a chance as the photographer, but we'll have to chop my head off. I must remain incognito. :)

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      trooper22 8 years ago from Chicago

      Your friend is a stunner, and enhanced by our photograpy to be sure.  Well done, these photos are beautiful.  I did not find any of them vulgar, the color, and the black and white are tasteful representations of a beautiful woman.  Bravo, now lets see if your friend can get you out from behind that camera and share some equally tasteful shots of you :)

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Aya, perhaps you're right about the background, too noisy perhaps, too much competition. I hadn't thought about it. I will next time though. Thanks for coming by and having a think.

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      Aya_Hajime 8 years ago

      Wow - I have to say that I like the black and white photos more. Maybe it is because a lot of 'naked' photos are printed in color, so the b&w's just seem other than that and therefore more classy.

      Or maybe it is just the colorful background that seems to detract a bit from the main figure. I wonder if you made the color images more muted, and with a plain background if that would change things.

      Very interesting concepts to think about ...

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      James - chuckle, Kat will be glad to hear that.

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      James A Watkins 8 years ago from Chicago

      That wasn't what came to mind when I saw it, I'll tell you that.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Wow James, you inspire me to do more. I love that you like #6 which happens to be the one Christoph thought looked like a proctology exam. I almost removed it... glad I left it now. There is always another's view. Thank you for your comments and compliments. :)

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Thanks Ali, glad you enjoyed them.

      Iva - Classy, that's the right word I think. A hub from a models point of view is an excellent idea! If you do one let me know.

      prasadjain - Thank you for sharing your view point. I agree in the end it's an accumulation of factors that make something erotic or art.

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      James A Watkins 8 years ago from Chicago

      Your photographical work is extraordinary.  The photos themselves are exquisite.  I like the color and B&W equally.  In answer to one of your questions: I do think if you eliminate the face we veer off into objectification.  I vote for # 6 and #7 though they are all excellent.

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      Dr.S.P.PADMA PRASAD 8 years ago from Tumkur

      Whether a nude picture is artistic and/orexciting, depends not only on the viewer( photographer nad the model can't just push it like that on the shoulders of others) but also on the composition, feeling expressed by the model especially in her eyes, also count much. But the photoes of the lying posture( with face clearly visible) is little exciting.Among colour pictures, one in the sitting posture, with legs folded across is more sexy, as the look of the model also supports that thought.

      This is a set of beautiful photoes,quite artistic and have aesthetic view.But black and white photoes have more artistic quality than coloured ones.

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      iva dragostinova 8 years ago from Brighton, UK

      Being a life model myself, I also find the distinction between art and erotica interesting. It's fun to push those boudaries and I think at the end of the day it truly is in the eye of the beholder. Black and white makes most nude/naked pics "classy" and more mysterious, tends to communicate "this is art". However this is most likely due to sociological misconseptions. Loving the pics and your hub! keep them coming! this gives me an idea! I should hub about this topic too!

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      Ali Althawadi 8 years ago from Bahrain

      So beautiful

      Nice photography

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      PM - Then "bad" erotica is pornography?  

      Thanks for the compliment too. 

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      Paper Moon 8 years ago from In the clouds

      The black and white pics do add that certain something. As for art vs erotica, i find most good erotica to be art. The line which I would question is erotica vs pornogrophy. Wonderful pics, I wish I was that good with the lenz.

      Great hub as well.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Davy - Finally a vote for color. I knew someone out there surely would prefer it. Thanks for your comment.

      Femme - I wonder that too. Perhaps I find b/w more artistic because that is what I was shown as "art" growing up.

      Disturbia - I like that one too. Its like a landscape with the sun getting low. I'm glad you liked them!

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      Disturbia 8 years ago

      These photos are lovely.  My favorite is the B&W laying on the bench without the face.  The curve of the hip and the dip to the waist... it's all lines and curves and light and shadow and it's just beautiful. 

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      femme fatale 8 years ago from india

      I think the black and white photos look more artistic. Could it be because most of the photos we have seen in this genre are not in color and so our mind has the presumption that b/w images are more artistic? B/w images lack some details and i think that can actually focus our attention more to the subject, it could also be a reason.

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      DavyJ123 8 years ago from Kentucky Paradise

      there is more beauty in color photography than in black and white, though lines seem more defined in black and white photos.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Elena - queen for the day, anyway. I do feel a sense of power behind the camera. When else would your friends let you boss them around, "get closer, look this way, smile bigger."

      AIDY - Thank you so much, I'm glad you came by.

      Laughing Mom - I swear its the camera. My old shots never used to come out as good.

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      Laughing Mom 8 years ago

      They don't look like amature shots to me!!

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      Am I dead, yet? 8 years ago

      Beautiful hub, Randy. Very well done.

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      Elena. 8 years ago from Madrid

      Hey, Randy - I think the photographer is king, or queen in your case :-) You won't click until all is aligned the way you want it (composition, light, pose...) and you'll ask the model to move this or that way until you feel you can click. Now, if the model's intentions are different than your own and she convinces you to take some shots that you originally hadn't thought of taking, then at the end of the day your intentions match those of the model, hence the photographer is ultimately responsible for the effect caused. I think :-)

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Oh May, are you camera shy? I actually have two more girlfriends who want me to take their pictures now after seeing how these turned out. Not everyone is comfortable in front of the camera though and I respect that.

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      mayhmong 8 years ago from North Carolina

      Its great to see some beautiful nude work as art instead of ya know. Her posture and skintone blends well in the sunlight. But hey, you have to kill me first before you can take a picture of me?! That means with clothes on too.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Candie -  Kat is a dear friend, so I'm sure you are right that it comes through.

      Janetta - I hadn't though about her looking away as making it more artful.  Interesting. It was fun coming up with poses that didn't give it all away.  I'm glad you like them. :)

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Kat - I'm glad you came by to see it. Thanks for letting me post your pictures I don't know who else would be as brave as you. The comments have been great fun and very insightful, not a bad payoff for an afternoon in the sun.

      Invictus - I'm glad you were able to enjoy the faceless ones. I think it really makes you look at the body in a different way. Black and white seems to be the favorite medium thus far.

      Ralwus - I'm glad you enjoyed them. Kat had really long wavy hair when I met her. She looked like a gypsy then. Don't remember why she cut it. Someone probably told her she never should.

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      Janetta 8 years ago

      I think they are beautiful... great job! I'd say it all comes down to how tasteful it is. It seems more art to show just a hint of rather than full on nudity. you see the shape of the breast, but not the whole thing. Also the way she is looking away in some also adds to the art feel. Black and white I think is just beautiful for any photograph--it adds something more to it, makes it more classic. I would say these are definitly art and I'm sure your friend's beau agrees :)

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      Gypsy - Thanks for having a look and a think. ;)

      Christoph - O.K., I'll take the 6 out of 8 and call it a job well done. Proctologist appointment huh? Squinty from the sun I think. I don't agree with the nudist advert idea though... I think Kat looks too statuesque to be just hanging out naked watching volleyball. LOL.

      Fan - I'm glad you approve.

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      Candie V 8 years ago from Whereever there's wolves!! And Bikers!! Cummon Flash, We need an adventure!

      For me, the "why" makes all the difference in shooting people, like photgraphing people you love is different than strangers, You see different light, capture the spirit differently, in my humble opinion.

      Kat, if you come back.. nice!! You two are lucky to have such a friendship of trust and respect. Awesome!

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      ralwus 8 years ago

      Randy, it's all art to me. I like them both. Now, the male in me will say the color is best. The poet/artist in me says they are equal. You have captured her in full sun in stunning poses and She sure looks like someone I knew in MO many years ago. a Native American Woman I shall not name. Oh I rember her well, and she looked just like your friend. Longer hair tho'.

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      I*n*v*i*c*t*u*s 8 years ago

      Randy, this is an awesone hub! I feel B/W photo's reveal a more artistic feel on the whole. The contrast and shades of light capture a mysterious nature of form or objects. In your photo's, I felt the B/W's without her face to be alluring in an artistic nature. (though your friend is beautiful). As with the color photo's, they are great photo's as well. I would think her new beau would love them! Color seems to be more personal in these captions for me.

      Thank you for putting this together! I really enjoy photography and this really helped me to think. I new of a great photographer named, Andy Katz, the is from Boulder Colorado. He had captured some lovely shots of nudes.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      RooBee - "Its almost as if the color is too much for our analytical side and we have to start categorizing and labeling it before appreciating it as a whole." Interesting observation. It's similar to the poem Cris A posted, we see anatomy. I guess that is what I meant, saying the color makes the flesh too real.

      Frieda - I probably could have accomplished the dehumanizing of the photos by just taking them from her back instead of cropping them. I have a few where she has her face hidden and to me makes such a difference not seeing her eyes.

      Ralph - I am glad you enjoyed them. I will have to go check out Edward Weston's nudes.

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      Randy Behavior 8 years ago from Near the Ocean

      NT - Thank you for the compliment. Interesting you think black and white creates space between the viewer and the photograph. I see what you mean. I checked out Nimoy's work. Very cool. http://www.leonardnimoyphotography.com/2photo.htm

      Candie - I am so enjoying every one's different percpectives. So the "why" behind the photo is something I hadn't thought about. She is obviously thinking about him in some of these shots.

      Hawkesdream - So black and white lets you fill in the blanks the same a book vs. a movie does. Ya, I can see that.

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      Kat 8 years ago

      wow, great job. Very interesting for me to read through everyones comments about the entire piece. I feel this has brought us closer together. I like what Christoph and Chris a. had to say, as well as some others. Love and light to you and I look forward to inspiring experiences shared.