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Theories The Good Place Show Fallowing Logic and Finding Happiness

Updated on December 13, 2016

Episode 5 part 1 of 4

Eleanor is ready to learn.
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The Many Flavors Of Yogert

There are way too many flavors of Yogurt in The Good Place. For some reason, Janet is working at Yogurt shop.

Theory: There is no reason for Janet to have taken on the job as Yogurt shop employee.

Unless....


1) Someone asked her to give them more flavors. This person wanted to try every one.

2) That person has to be in the yogurt shop or Janet could just appoint someone else as cashier.

3) People in The Good Place take turns being cashier.

4) That person loves the full cell phone battery flavor.

5) The full cell phone battery flavor is asked for the most out of all the flavors.

6) Janet is trying to find out the rate of happiness for the community.

The flavors:


They taste how people feel in life when something they though as good happened to them.

“I think Heaven will be like a first kiss.”
― Sarah Addison Allen, The Sugar Queen

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/heaven

Addiction to feeling good:


She lets Gunner to go ahead of her while she choices what she wants to eat. She immediately realities that she did something good and has to go back to tell Chidi.

1) The Yogurt is not going, anywhere.

2) There is no long-term consequence to her action.

Long-term consequence later on


1) But, it might have made a different to Gunner or the people behind him as they would have had to wait for her selection.

2) She might have people thinking that she is not going to stay in line long.

3) She could have to get others their yogurt because Eleanor is so speedy at getting her own yogurt.

4) Chidi might expect more out of her.



What I can make out of the black board because the character keep getting the way.


Utilitarianism

What is "Good" What is "Bad" "One Person with an .. equal

John Stuart Mills ---Reading

1806- 1873

Jeremy Bentl..

1748

"The Greatest Happieness of the .. is"

Here is the principle: Jeremy Bentham:

"Greatest happiness of the greatest number. Some years have now elapsed since, upon a closer scrutiny, reason, altogether incontestable, was found for discarding this appendage. On the surface, additional clearness and correctness given to the idea: at bottom, the opposite qualities. Be the community in question what it may, divide it into two equal parts, call one of them the majority, the other minority, layout of the account of the feelings of the minority, include in the account no feelings but those in the majority, the result you will find is that of this operation, that to the aggregate stock of happiness of the community, loss not profit is the result of the operation. Of this proposition the truth will be the more palpable, the greater the ration of the number of the minority to that of the majority: in other words, the less difference between the two unequal parts: and suppose the condivident part equal, the quantity of the error will then be at its maximum."

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jeremy_Bentham

Part one Majority: Feelings counted for here = Happiness of community

Part two Minority: The closeness the number of the Minority to the Majority


Works explained: John Stuart Mills


-He worried that everything could be changed in a moment. And, there could be no happiness from getting everyone that someone wants so quickly.

-Bentham’s Rationale of Judicial Evidence and Coleridge, Carlyle, and Goethe influence his work.

-He wants to know all sides of the truth.

-eclecticism and Francois Guizot, Auguste Comte, and Tocqueville later influenced his work.

-He married in 1851 to Harriet Taylor shortly after her husband died.

-Wrote On Liberty.

-35 year worked for East India Company

-wrote A History of British India

-Member of Parliament for Westminster for the Liberal Party 1865.

-"suffrage to women, Irish reform, and the prosecution of Governor Eyre for atrocities committed during his administration of Jamaica."

-“honorary” position of Rector of the University of St Andrews


Naturalism


Naturalism-"substantive account of knowledge". Asks: What is present in my world and the relation to each of them?

Note: "Mill’s commitment to the claim that human beings are wholly part of nature, keeping in mind that Mill does not think of this as his unsupported starting point, but itself a substantive claim."

The mind is important to the nature (the world we live in) of how things are in life.

-He does not believe that our minds have to do with God and its place in making up the world.

-He does not believe that the mind has created the world around him.

He believes that there the world around him was created by mind, world and nature. Also, each are connected.

The mind can not understand all parts of the world.

People can only observe and experience in order to learn.

Published: The Analysis of the Phenomena of the Human Mind

-the law of association.

Similar ideas that create more ideas. -Learning from what is known in order to combine ideas.

Ideas might not be able to be cooperated after looked at them separately.

-space is infinite.= there is always more to be learned from nature.


Language is not part of though.


-Language is about denotation and connotation of a word.

--it is true people there are attributes to the word given unless it is a proper name.

Math and Logic: In that an object or letter can be the same as another letter or represented by that object or letter. Example: If it is true that L is R. All Ls are Rs. And, all Rs are Ls.

Math Syllogistic reasoning: The facts about one sentence is noted. Added to the facts about other sentences. Equal a fact about all the senses combined. All L are Rs + V is an L = L, R, V combined.

The truth must have primes that make it true. The primes must have something to do with what is going on.

The first prime is true to all involved. Universally true statements only

Premise 1: The Sinkhole was created in a Good Place neighborhood.

Premise 2: Problems have a relation to what is created.

Conclusion: A problem is created at a The Good Place neighborhood.

All knowledge about the problem must not just be known though observation.

He created a way to test what is true.

What is going on can be evaluated. Facts can be built upon by using what is known.


Empirical observation and what is already known under observation can be a means to get new knowledge


Some truths are obvious and others need to be explained.

X1,X2,X3,...Xn are P, so Xn+1 is P

P can be true, false or partually true in a statement

X are all the same items. Xn must be the same item.

1) What is true in one case is true to all cases of a certain description.

2) We can know by deduction.

3) self-support each truth


https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mill/



What the math will looks like:


This is not in the work sited. It is just math sequence for the problem. Just incase you wanted to figure it out for yourself.

X1 = (-1/1)1 = -1

X2= (-1/2)2= 1/4

2 and the other 2 is squared

2*2=4

X3 =(-1/3)3= -1/27

3 and the other 3 is cubed

3*3= 9 *3 = 27

Xn=(-1/n)n

{Xn} ={-1, 1/4 ,-1/27,...}

The first term is n

The difference between each number in the set is +1

Xn+1= (-1/n+1)n+1= -1

I hope this helps.


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(Picking up with same work sited.)

Humans should act with happiness as their goal.

Everyone happiness is desirable. And, holds no value greater than others.


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Happiness happens there is pleasure and no pain.

If H is what we like more then L. We will choose more of H.

H is quality pleasure and L is quantity of pleasure.


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Roles are forced on the sexes by commercial trends and society.

He wanted equality of the sexes in marriage.

The majority causes problems for the minority. And, gives punishment to them as they see fit.

We must need to argue for freedom of thought, discussion, character, and action. We must note strengths and weakness.

If proven false a person should be freedom to future thoughts.

The truth should be found by combining all truths statements and false statements.

There is truth. There is an outlook without the journey to a maybe truth as a goal.

People must have space to develop themselves and how they will live their lives.

We should not conform or be repressed by society.

We should not harm others. But, in some cases we should not interfere.

The punishment should only effect the individual and not any others.

People are always learning.)

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mill/

If you want to know more read the cited source above.

Janet Should Have The Answers. But, no one asks her.


Theory: John Stuart Mills would not want to use the Janet that is helpful to everyone. This would cause him to be confused about the after life. He could never be happy.

Theory: Would ask all the people in The Good Plate to find out what facts are similar and which are not. He would use Syllogistic reasoning to find out what he can about what happened that day.

---He would have narrowed down the people that could have created the sinkhole.

Theory: He would not agree with Michael in that the only people that created the sinkhole where at the party.

What is true? Eleanor and (my guess others) have created a problem in the neighborhood.

There are 321 people that could have created the sink hole.

What is known about Eleanor. She punch a cake. This might mean a hole. But, where is the cake?

What cake you say? The cake that would appear to indicate that Eleanor is connected to the problem. There would be wholly cake somewhere or cake everywhere. There is no cake.

So, Eleanor is not the only one that are on the list of suspects she only thinks she is the one that did it.

Theory: Mills would tell Eleanor to look around her neighborhood for new sinkholes and anything to do with a whole at a distance. Maybe, Janet can get her some binoculars and testing and earthquake testing supplies.

Theory: A geologist might be able to help Eleanor.

Theory: Eleanor will be focusing more on her relationship with Chidi as a friend and helping him find happiness.

Theory: Chidi is not anyone's soul mate. He is a higher being that is checking on Michael. He is also responsible for putting some bad people in The Good Place.

Theory: Chidi wants to Eleanor to use Mills' work to find out what is going wrong in The Good Place.


John Stuart Mills: Finding The Answers


What is known: there is a sink hole. Why is there a sink hole in The Good Place? This place is designed for these people. It should not be possible for one to form.

Using Mills:

Premise: This Good Place is for all the people that live there.

Premise: The destruction happened in The Good Place's, The Good Plate where people are excluded from going to the opening event.

Conclusion: The destruction of The Good Place happened because people were excluded from The Good Plate opening.

Using Mills:

Premise: Punishment for what happens Bad in The Good Place happens the next day.

Premise: Eleanor punched a hole in the cake which took place in The Good Plate, which was located in The Good Place.

Conclusion: What Eleanor did showed up the next day at The Good Plate making the whole bigger.

According to this Eleanor did not create the first whole. Who did?

Using Mills: (This information is used from Chidi's and Eleanor's two house guests.)

Premise: There are many people that idolize Chidi's and Eleanor's soul mate relationship. They sneak off to do something unknown.

Premise: The people at the tables became jealous of Chidi and Eleanor because they have not not formed such a loving relationship.

Conclusion: The people who idolize Chidi and Eleanor created the who because they do not feel confident in their own relationships. They want to have the same relationship as Chidi and Eleanor.

Eleanor did not create the first whole but the people at the Good Plate created the first whole.

Theory: Chidi does not understand all the he is teaching Eleanor. I don't believe he was ever a teacher. He might belong in The Good Place. But, he is hiding something.

Theory: Chidi needs to understand that The Good Place can be a great place for him to become a better person. Isolating himself will not help the community or himself.

Theory: Chidi's dreams of talking to others about philosophy did not included teaching anyone only reflecting with like minded people.

Theory: Chidi would see himself in getting smarter. If he used Mills sequence. With every person he met he would learn positive or negative things about the topic. I am making an educated guess because of his statements that these people that he meets are his peers.

Peers that invasion the afterlife as the same as him.


Work sited: Jeremy Bentham (1748—1832)


Emphasized conceptual clarity and deductive argument

Reason is better then custom and tradition

underlying principles of psychological associations and principle of utility.

All parts talked about should be together and not left out.

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English philosopher and radical.

Moral Philosophy

He believes in overall happiness of an action. Happiness is pleasure and lack of pain.

Philosophy of Law.- he was a critic of law and reform.

Legal Positivism-moral theory "resulted in justification in social and political and legal institutions."

Things should be used or abandoned.

Finding notification of original contracts. New clarifications and justification should be used in terms.


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Morals and Legislation -account of human nature. Behavior must have a motive for pleasure or pain.=psychological hedonism

There is no proof but in actions is the human motivation.

Introduction to the Principles of Morals and Legislation

What we do and what we obligated do. is measured by pleasure and pain.

Right and wrong and the other cause and effect.

We must demonstrate and confirm what we do in government.

There must be a value put on the pleasure and pain.

Math: pleasure and pain are objective states and can be measured in terms of their intensity, duration, certainty, proximity, fecundity and purity

Intensity = Each experience has values and a speed at which it can be acquired in a given amount of time. What is needed to be is the highest level to meet the maximum speed.

Duration = The time that something is being used.

Certainty = how sure something is going to be true.

Proximity =nearness in space, time, or relationship

Fecundity = Rate of the increase an value.

Purity = How much the value has been altered.

He was against many earlier philosophers. And, tried to find positive alternatives.

We have consequences in this life. And, we are not a part of nature but part of society.

There are no general rights. No man can own a right. Governments exist to enforce rights.

http://www.iep.utm.edu/bentham/

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