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Uchiha Madara Real Face Unmasked! Tobi's Real Identity! NOT Uchiha Obito!

Updated on March 19, 2013

Uchiha Madara's New Mask!

Uchiha Madara's New Mask!
Uchiha Madara's New Mask!

And the real Uchiha Madara aka Tobi is....

By now we all already know that the "Uchiha Madara" aka Tobi that used to lead the Akatsuki is actually NOT the real "Uchiha Madara". This is because the real Uchiha Madara is already dead!

Some people are speculating that the masked man is probably Uchiha Madara's brother, Uchiha Izuna. However, remember the time when this masked man tried to show Sasuke his face? Even though in the end he couldn't because Itachi planted something to activate on his face if he were to show his face to Sasuke. But doesn't this mean that by showing his face to Sasuke means Sasuke would "immediately" recognize who he was? If he was Uchiha Izuna, Madara's brother, even if he shows his face to Sasuke, Sasuke wouldn't have any idea who he was, right? Some people are also speculating that the masked man is Uchiha Obito, which doesn't make sense, because Sasuke wouldn't know who Uchiha Obito was! Soon after it was revealed that the real Uchiha Madara is already dead, the speculations about Uchiha Obito being Tobi's real identity starting to circulate again just like years ago. Guys, that speculation is getting old! It is unlikely that Tobi is Obito! Old speculation is old!

OK, so who do I think this Tobi is? You read it here FIRST! It's Uchiha Fugaku! Uchiha Fugaku is Sasuke and Itachi's FATHER!!

I strongly think Tobi aka the masked man is actually Sasuke and Itachi's father! If you think about it, it makes sense if this masked man is Sasuke and Itachi's father. Let's say Itachi already knew about this, and the killing of his father in their home is just to deceive the young Sasuke. Or probably the killing of his father was just a genjutsu done by this masked man to deceive Itachi, not knowing that Itachi was well aware of it. Remember, Uchiha clan is tainted with deceit and backstabbing. The Uchiha's killed one another to gain power, namely the power of the ultimate sharingan. So there's no surprise if Sasuke and Itachi's father, who was the leader of the clan at the time of the clan massacre, is doing all of this to gain ultimate power for himself (Tsuki no me), and he's doing all of this under the name of "Uchiha Madara" just so that people get scared by hearing the name!

Let's say this speculation is true, when the Naruto series was to end, Sasuke, who is right now so stubborn and insists on bringing back the whole Uchiha clan, and insists to want to restore the name of Uchiha, would be crushed. When Sasuke learnt that this masked man is his father, he'd probably change his views on lots of things (makes it easier to end the story). I mean, think about it, and try to piece everything together, it would make so much sense, wouldn't it?

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******SPOILER ALERT!!*******

Well, guys, it has been revealed in the last 2 chapters of Naruto manga that this "TOBI" who also used to call himself "Uchiha Madara" is actually UCHIHA OBITO. Yup, you can celebrate that now, throw a party or something. Invite those Izuna-Fugaku-Shisui-whoever theorists (me included) too if you will! Lol.

Anyway, I was kind of disappointed, not because Tobi didn't turn out to be Uchiha Fugaku or whoever I speculated he might be. But because Masashi Kishimoto decided to spoil our good impression of the younger Uchiha Obito. Well, I always think of Obito as someone who is quite inspiring, for what he did and sacrificed for his friends. But anyway, it's Naruto, you need to be ready for whatever plot twist that might come your way.

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      nufoundglory 4 years ago from Asia

      People still come here, they're just a bit more silent now..... -.-

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      rikudou 4 years ago

      nobody comes here anymore, i guess.

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      ok naruto is on break. time to watch some of my favorite episodes from * hunter x hunter * :) still one of the best series out there

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      donzell60 5 years ago

      there that proves tobi did fight 4th hokage no need to wait for the manga to tell us now huh :) damn im good

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      donzell60 5 years ago

      Twelve years before the start of the series, Tobi discovered that Kushina Uzumaki, the Nine-Tails' jinchūriki and Minato's wife, would be giving birth, causing the seal keeping the Kurama contained within her to weaken. Intending to use the Nine-Tails, Tobi tracked her down and took the newborn Naruto Uzumaki hostage to keep Minato from interfering.[19]

      Tobi and Minato clash.

      Once he extracted the beast, Tobi placed the tailed beast under his control and ordered it to destroy Konoha.[20] Using his space–time technique to keep Minato from going to the village's defence, keeping his true identity a secret, Tobi engaged Minato before being hit by a Rasengan and branded with Minato's Flying Thunder God Technique. Wounded with Minato's Contract Seal removing the Nine-Tails from his control, Tobi fled while vowing to regain the Nine-Tails and that he still had other plans.[21]

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      donzell60 5 years ago

      and btw i give ya props i swear i thought it was kagami but hey i was wrong and everything i wanted explained got explained so im happy :)

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      @donzell60. hey i agree with u maybe there is some possiblity that madara did something to make obito believe his message. but it does seem like it will be obito that fights minato during the nine tails attack.

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      @raven2k7- Both.

      @zaikan -_-

      @donzell-its possible.

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      donzell60 5 years ago

      its been a while sense everyone has heard from the great donzell but i am gonna put out another theory and im sure raven would most likely agree if he still comes here but sense it is obito i believe he will end up helping kill madara cause after reading this last chapter i get the feeling madara is responsible for kakashi killing rin i mean why the fuck was there a clone even watching rin and kakashi soon as obito was laying in that bed and talked about kakashi and rin the white zetsu headed out then came back with info on them lol

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      zaikan 5 years ago

      until now rikudou still crying. lolz

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      nufoundglory 5 years ago from Asia

      Everyone needs to remember that Naruto is full of surprises.

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      it hasnt been proven or u havent accepted ?

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      nothing has been proven yet.

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      its funny how everyone is so quiet these days lol haha.,

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      @rikudou. i guess u were wrong . from the last manga it proves that it was obito. his hair has grew.

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      sorry i ment * Kisame Hoshigaki * .

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      @MyNameMei- Interesting insight as to why madara was resurrected and izuna wasn't. Maybe izuna isn't dead(just specualting). Maybe he's the masked man because as u said his hair length is not like obito or madara it's like izuna's exactly but izuna was old then so his hair should have been white like madara but it's actually brown. whatever.

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      @raven2k7- who the hell is kasami?? Never heard of him.

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      MyNameMei 5 years ago

      @raven2k7. Elder madara said to obito that he LEFT his REAL EYES to someone else. Someone that he appeciate much. To whom it be? Obito's left eye rinnegan took from Nagato and his right eye was his own. Either u also dont forget madara real eyes already gone because he overused it. Then izuna gave his eyes willingly to madara. If izuna already dead as we seen his body lying in coffin, then can u expected why he wasn't ressurected by kabuto? Looks kinda fishy here. Be ware, Masashi Kishimoto had made some plot ready for izuna uchiha.

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      that also tells why obito always wore a mask.

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      @MyNameMei. that mask man is obito. itachi never met with the real madara , neither did kasami. Dont forget that obito had been givin a mission from madara , and am sure that one part of that mission was to pretend to be him since some people knew that madara didnt die. so they suspected that obito was him. my belief is that madara give obito his other eye. to make obito complete. then madara died. madara said that u need both eyes to be complete. I can guarentee u that the mask man that minato faught was obito , and the same person that kasami and itachi met up with. because by that time madara had already been long dead. obitos plan was to look like madara and make nagato fufill madaras plan. thats why konan and nagato called obito * madara * . u guys will see what i mean after they complete with the story of the past

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      MyNameMei 5 years ago

      The twisted things is who is that old man proclaim himself as Uchiha Madara on chapter 602?? If so then who's Itachi talked with (masked man same mask as Obito wear but hair looks alike madara) on chapter 590 inside Nakano Sanctuary.. He is not Obito aka Tobi for sure. So it will be either he is Uchiha Madara himself or Uchiha Izuna (Madara brother) BUT Izuna already dead. Since this is just comic, all the magic can be happen to bring izuna suddenly back to life aite..hmm... If he is Madara which his hair already looks alike, it make sense also because when he talked with Itachi, he said that he hold a grudge toward both Konoha and Uchiha clan. Back then before the fight between Harashima Senju with Uchiha Madara, the uchiha turned their back on Madara because they believing he/Madara only desired to rekindle the flames of war. That is why makes Madara hold a grudge with his own clan and been abandoned by his clan Madara left the village. We can assume that that man is not Uchiha Izuna because Izuna got no grudge against his clan, So...who's could it will be that old man..? I think he is Uchiha Izuna, Madara brother. And his right sharingan was took by/gave to Madara. But why he proclaim himself as Madara? And are they twins? This is just my thought only..haha..we'll see. I also think that Jiraiya still alive .... "

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      by the way rikudou . the story isnt complete yet. wait until the manga completes the story with madara and obito , then make ur judgement

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      so the new mangas out and i was correct. and i was correct of course. half of obitos body is from the first hokage :)

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      @raven2k7- What else do u expect me to do but guess? I'm not masashi kishimoto!

      And what do u want me to see? i have read the manga and there's nothing about obito being all grown up at the time of the nine tails attack.

      u told me it was obito all along. Big Deal! I remember for a long time u were so against the obito theory. You talk as if u knew everything all along. Scroll up and see your comments. Have u noticed how fickle minded u are?

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      @rikudou. ur guessing too much , and saying * must be * too much. just watch the following manga this week and u will see. i told u that tobi was obito and now he is, u never believe me until u see with ur own eyes :)

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      @raven2k7- You say that it was years after the incident at the bridge because minato already had a wife and child. Minato and Kushina were lovers since they were very young so that means they must have been married already by the time the incident occurred, and, to have child, how long does it take? 9 months, i guess. So it was possibly 1 0r 2 years max. after the kannabi incident. Try watching the episode once again u'll see that Kakashi, guy , kurenai, anko and the others were all very young.

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      zaikan 5 years ago

      @Inquisitor, the old man was uchiha madara, he's not actually dead when he fought the 1st Hokage. After he save Obito from that rocks, he trained Obito to be that powerful.. then that's the time Madara say's to Obito to continue his legacy and Madara dies at old age.

      Thats why Kabuto revived Madara at his prime, meaning he revived madara at his strongest form. Kabuto also said that his edo tensei was special.

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      first of all the fight between the mask man and minato was years after the incident at the brige, minato already had a wife and a child. The all had already grew up. it is possible that it was obito.

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      Inquisitor 5 years ago

      The only question is, who is that old man? Is it Uchiha Izuna?

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      @Frank- Kakashi didn't have both normal eyes that time and its not possible for obito to be in the academy because if the 4th hokage is dead then who saved kakashi and rin at the battle of the kannabi bridge?

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      Frank 5 years ago

      i wonder, if the real tobi is OBITO UCHIHA, then who masked man that fight 4th hokage in episode 502, that time Kakashi and Obito was still in young age and that time kakashi has both normal eyes, meaning obito is still a academy's student. WHO THE HELL IS 4TH HOGAKE ENEMY THAT TIME?

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      haha i told u guys that the real madara saved obito. and that he gave obito the eyes to give to nagato.

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      Shichii 5 years ago

      If TOBI is really OBITO... I really have this utmost feeling that there is some kind of twist in the story...

      I have never read of something throughout the Naruto manga that Kishimoto gave off a plot so easily. :)

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      zaikan 5 years ago

      nice 601 episode... RIP tsunade.. lolz

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      haha its amazing how this room was made to convince people that the mask man wasnt obito, and it turns out that he is lol

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      nufoundglory 5 years ago from Asia

      WOW, I left for a while and the next thing I know this article has 34675602752357 comments (j/k). Well, my point is, I can't keep up with the comments anymore, they're too many, you guys are great Naruto fans!!

      ANYWAY, *SPOILER* it has been revealed on the latest 2 chapters that Tobi is indeed UCHIHA OBITO!!

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      hahaha! lol raven!

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      obito left rin with kakashi so he could marry her , have sex , have children , and he let her die ! yes kakashi not every man would give u a virgin for a gift !!!! u ruined it! obito was so nice. wish someone did this for me in my life lol.

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      Brain_Freeze 5 years ago

      Naruto 599 & 600 was released.. Hes really Obito Uchiha..

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      @raven2k7- i said it already! i accepted tobi being obito why should i have a problem? its not like i hate obito or anything.

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      @rikudou. thats exactly what am saying. since its a cartoon and they can go all kinds of magic and u obviously dont know thier true ages. then yea . they can be any age :) anythings possible in a cartoon. even tobi being obito. wow! looks like tobi is obito !!!! hahahahha u just need to accept the truth man tobi is OBITO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      @zaikan- who said i can't accept that tobi is obito? And when did i bet that tobi is the elder son of the rikudou. You better look up the meaning of the word 'theory'. I think the only problem is that u don't understand English or sarcasm, so your best bet is to stay out of this.

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      zaikan 5 years ago

      @rikudou - it seems like your not reading the latest chapter ng manga.. right?

      or you just cant accept the truth that its obito? or still insisting with your bet Elder son of Rikudou? i know youre still crying for now bcoz u lost your bet.. lolz

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      @raven2k7- Ohh now i get it! thank you raven, you opened up my eyes! i get your point of view. You're trying to say that kakashi could be of any age i.e 50, 60 or even a 100!!!! Since rin's age wasn't announced she could be like ten or maybe even 20 years older than kakashi! That's foolish.

      Do u realise what kind of argument u are making?

      And Tobi is obito???!!!! mannnn u spoiled that for me!!

      - _ -

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      @ rikudou .common sense? if the videos / manga doesnt announce thier ages then obviously any other information other than that is a lie. and ur just living lies, thats why u always believed that he wasnt obito, so u feel sorry and sad inside that u were living a lie. common sense is that if it aint in the manga or video then it isnt true. people edit wikipedia and other stuff online , u should have the common sense to know that dude. and by the way Tobi is OBITO!!!!!! in your face hahahahaha. and u wanna know why ? cause kakashi let rin die !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P :P :P

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      raven2k7- the info this wiki got is from wikipedia and its not necessary that all the info that is not there in the episodes or manga is not true because its not like they are going to announce everyone's age and height before the release of the episode. Stuff like that is a given. it's common sense dude.

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      by the way, am actually surprized that Guy actually remembered someones face lol.

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      gave the * eyes * . sorry

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      @rikudou , dud that wikia. people put those things together themselves. also his age was never mentioned in any of the videos. thats why u havent given me a episode yet that says his age , so just be quiet. what u need to do is watch the latest manga and see how the story is coming together when i said * madara saved obito * and madara gave obito the guys to give to nagato . thats all there is to it.

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      Obito 5 years ago

      My plan shall be successful. You'll soon see the power of the second Sage of the Six Paths!

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      Kakashi's present age is 30. if u dont believe it then check out

      http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kakashi_Hatake

      We know that the nine tails attack occured 16 years ago so by using basic mathematics we get 30-16=14. There you go.

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      onlinemangareader 5 years ago

      he actually is

      their names are similar

      and it was revealed in the manga

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      @rikudou . give me the episode where it says he was 15 years old . if u cant do that , then be quiet. and in the video i want it to state the ages of them. lol now ur saying that there are 2 masks men ? hahahah . u are so lost.

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      @raven2k7- you're wrong about the time line. On the day of the nine tails attack Kakashi's age was 14 that means obito was the same age. which means it wasn't obito. There are two masked men. It's highly likely that the other one's Izuna. How their technique's are same i cant' explain but there are two masked men. Its possible that the second masked man gave obito all the knowledge he has about the ninja world.

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      yellow flash 5 years ago

      knew it !

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      lol i agree with u mundanemondays . people come here speaking the craziest things, for example. the guy who talked about izuna walking around with no eyes stealing sharingans lol .

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      lol i agree with u mundanemondays . people come here speaking the craziest things, for example. the guy who talked about izuna walking around with no eyes stealing sharingans lol .

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      MundaneMondays 5 years ago

      LMAO obito is tobi, but let me say this how can you buy a manga chapter they come out weekly ? you have to wait for a volume, that guy ANON is an Idiot LOL you got it in the mail ...funnniest comment

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      anon no need for bad language. its just that it was hard for alot of people to believe. but yes it was obvious that it was him, like i was telling everyone when obito said * borrowed sharigan * and * too late for regrets * . obito was the only person that could fit in this scenary. and by the way , like i said before, even itachi was lied to. sasuke figured that out when he found out that the edo madara was still around. and another thing. madara gave obito his eyes to give to nagato. just in case u guys are still confused about that part. obito worked with madara to continue his legacy. it was all part of the plan

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      anon 5 years ago

      Wow whaddya know... IT WAS OBITO!! Dumasses... Excuse me if that offends you but seriously it wasnt that hard to figure out and imo this whole trying to figure out who wad stupid... Again no offense... If you are really that into it just buy the Japanese manga raw once it comes at and wait for in the mail like me. (just got it)

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      yea u bet we won!. i told u guys that people change. u never know what someone has become after u leave them. nagato was also a good boy. always remember that. i think soon we will see the past where he met with the real madara and he told him everything. and yes i am still sticking with my belief that obito got some cells from the first hokage implated on half of his body.

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      nooblogic 5 years ago

      nooob

      he is obito

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      donzell60 5 years ago

      lol i not crying i just confused and i confess i never thought it would be obito i didnt think it would be who i thought but still obito and maybe this will be good its gonna give fkn fillers thou not and before it tells us how he lived how everything played out thats what sucks

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      zaikan 5 years ago

      we won raven2k7!! its obito! hahah.. donzell60 still crying -_-

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      jnigga your the only dumb A in this room. yes it is obito and i was saying that all along . now we just need to wait and hear the story behind it. and jnigga u need to be more relaxed its just a japanese anime. obviously u dont have a life or a woman. dumb idiot ( u smell also ) lol.

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      donzell60 5 years ago

      :/ ITS NOT OBITO I DONT BELIEVE IT LOL STILL IM SORRY BUT SCREW THIS IT CANT BE OBITO THATS TOTAL BS THERE HAS TO BE MORE TO IT THEN THAT

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      jnigga 5 years ago

      told u bitches i always knew it was obito thats tobi and he doesnt have the first hokage face dumass this is wat happen when he was about to die the real madara saved and trained him to be super strong. and the person that was fighting minato during the nine tails attack was the real madara becuz he was the first mask man then when he found obito he trained him told him about a plan to revive him and obito took over as the second ask man thats how u explain the masked man fighting minato and im telling u thats what really happen

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      chris345 5 years ago

      obito uchiha is tobi!!! its already known in the manga

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      i was trying to tell u guys that u dont know the time difference between obito dying and minato becoming hokage. so u couldnt say that it wasnt him. minatio didnt become hokage right after that , that was a long time after. thats why u guys were confused. but if u look carefully it seems like he has part of the 1st hokages face on him.

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      tobi 5 years ago

      i told you ;)

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      My apologies to all those who said it was obito and i criticised them; i feel awful.

      Anyway now that we know tobi is obito i wonder how kishi will explain his fight with the yondaime. Its gonna be kinda cool now that it's obito! And i can't stop looking at the last page of this chapter! SERIOUSLY!

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      Naruto freak 17 5 years ago

      Well I know for a fact that it is obito because if read the most resont chapter that came out 8/28/2012 that it shows you who he is because naruto breaks his mask and it turns out he is ..............OBITO!!!!!

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      i keep telling u guys that his face isnt old ! i told u that its from surgery being done. and by they way . seems like he has half of the face of the first hokage just like donzo . either oru did it for him or ren . but we will see. o man , this is a great day. donzell60 get that beer ready :) dont forget the deal .

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      told ya soooooooooooooooooooooooo , hahahahhahaah , so all u idiots out there who were saying that its not obito , ya!!! go crying now , i told u that ur the ones not understanding the story line , hahahahahhah . rikudou , donzell60 and all of u , go crying now !!!

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      Argem 5 years ago

      ***SPOILER***

      Manga just came out and his true identity has been revealed.

      It is in fact Obito.

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      zaikan nice story. but i dont believe that crap. they made up that story about meeting kishi and all that foolishness. as pupung said , lets just watch and see what happens with the manga. the story that is the truth

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      pupung 5 years ago

      Enough with the speculations. Let's just wait for the story to be finished. The story is not finished yet so changes can still be made. The true identity of Tobi is a mystery which only the author knows. :) Just enjoy watching and reading naruto.

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      zaikan 5 years ago

      Guys, i believe its Obito but i dont think this is real Q & A about Kishi.

      Found this on another site. Not sure if its legit but an interesting read nonetheless..

      While visiting Japan for business,me(Victor Sleever) and Mike Birnton, from Viz Media, decided to spare some of our time and go to Comic Market 78, the biggest manga festival in Japan, something that happens only twice a year. The festival lasts for 3 days, from 23 august to 25 august.

      After some time wandering around the Tokyo Big Sight convention center, we met Masashi Kishimoto, me and Mike are big fans of Naruto, so it was a really pleasant surprise to be able to talk with him.

      He didn't have much time to talk because he was holding a conference in about 30 minutes since we met, we asked if he could reveal some of the things he will talk about at the conference, and surprisingly he said yes.

      Mike asked all the questions while I wrote them.

      Q:So, what exactly is the conference about?

      A:After the identity of Tobi was revealed by one of my assistants, I realized that the next few chapters will leave the fans confused. I had to clear up some misunderstandings, thus, Comic Market was the best place to do it.

      Q:Then the rumors are true? Is Toby really Izuna? I thought he died in battle after Madara took his eyes, is that a lie?

      A:Well, the truth about his survival is much different, I can't tell you how he survived, you will have to read the next chapters to find out, but yes, Izuna is Tobi.

      Q:How come he has eyes now? I thought he was blind.

      A:He will reveal that together with his identity, let's just say that the Uchiha clan is much larger than you know.

      Q:In an earlier interview you talked about Madara not having any weaknesses, what about Tobi? Is he going to be killed by Naruto after his identity is revealed?

      A:Not really, after the way he survived is revealed and what he tries to truly achieve, everyone will change, the truth will hurt a lot of them, it will actually change the history that they know.

      Q:What do you mean by that? How will it hurt them?

      A:The truth is dark and bloody. Madara is related to why Tobi was supposed to die, you could say that what he wants is revenge, but his brother isn't the only who wanted to kill Tobi, one of the Hokage played a big part in the attempt on his life.

      Q:What else?What is going to happen in this fight?

      A:You know, Tobi always had this forbidden technique prepared, I wanted him to use it only after his identity is revealed. If you thought that Kabuto's technique for reincarnating people is dangerous, you should see what Tobi prepared.

      Q:Why did Izuna hide his identity?

      A:Because some of the Akatsuki already know what Madara did to Izuna, they know because someone told them, and they wouldn't be willing to help Izuna. I'm afraid I can't answer any more of your questions, but I'm hoping you will be patient, in the next weeks everything will be revealed.

      A short interview that revealed a huge amount of spoilers, what is the truth behind Izuna's past? I guess we are going to find out in the next chapters.

      What do u think guys?

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      hmm no i still its u. i read that manga already. so why do u think kakashi keeps saying * its cant be ? * . and why u think tobi made a statement like * its too late for regret? * . whether u are an uchica or not it would still be borrowing cmon. ur saying if a chinese gets borrows a bike from a chinese its different than him borrowing it from an american lol. its still something borrowed. tobi is the original user of the eyes. the guys face was smashed by a rocks , u think his face would look the same ? cmon. his body is not the body of an old person its the body of someone that went through alot of experiments. the new manga will come out on wednesday . then we will see !!! u better not hide ! or il come looking for u lol . and still am saying that * ITS OBITO!

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      @ raven2k7- First of all what ur saying is agreeing with what im saying. And Tobi never even hinted that he *awakened* the sharingan, he hinted that he *got*(stole) it. Check this out. http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/597/12

      If obito survived somehow and tobi is him then how does he have such an old face? There are no parts of zetsu on his face.

      U said why kakashi has a borrowed sharingan and he doesn't. MAYBE it's because kakashi is not an uchiha and tobi is an uchiha (also likely that he is the older son of the rikudou). Sasuke took itachi's eyes yet he is able to deactivate the sharingan; its because he is an uchiha. The reason he sacrifices his other sharingan is because that sharingan was an ordinary one and obito's eye possesses the ability to use a space-time technique that surpasses the second and the fourth hokages' . So i think in reality it's u who is misunderstanding.

      Do reply.

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      if its not obito then why does kakashi have a borrowed sharigan and he doesnt? we have 100% proof that its obitos sharigan, without a shout of a doubt. and why does he always sacrifice the other eye he has and never the one on the right? all of u will be disapointed when u find out that its obito in the next chapter. just dont come here crying about how it doesnt make any sense and that kishi has alot of explaining to do bla bla. because u guys are the ones misunderstanding the story line.

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      hotrod10011 5 years ago

      its not obito or anyone else.....its the village elder

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      donzell60 5 years ago

      SPOILER*

      tobi is not obito

      PROOF*

      i said so

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      rikudou , ur not reading the manga . he said * where u say ? * in other words hes implying to kakashi where he obtained the eye. because if u were paying attention u would relize that he also mentioned the fight that led to him activating his sharigan. so yes , it is tobi . he relized that obito survived someone. and yes. there is a possibility that zatsu has something to do with obito still being alive also.

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      rikudou 5 years ago

      Don't u people read the manga?!! Tobi is NOT obito. When kakashi asked tobi where he got that sharingan then he said he got it from the kannabi bridge implying that he stole it. Besides, u have got a glimpse of tobi , he is OLD. I think its possible that obito's other eye had not got crushed when he died.

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      mr Johnny . theres a few things i would like to know. first how did u know that kakashi was 26 years old ? where did u see that? second how do u know that the masked man attacked the village a little right after obitos death ? i can agree with u with the things that we have proof , but if u dont have proof for those things then u cant say they are true. we dont know how old they really were , and 2 we dont know what the time different were from when certain events happened. u cant put a story together with * i think so * facts , because it would be greating a whole other story. i agree that its obito but i dont agree with ur facts that arent related to the manga or story line

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      donzell60 5 years ago

      TOTAL BULLSHIT let me right my list of people i can say i told you so idc who it is but if its not obito ima rub it in you guys face and you better get back on this page so i can lets type it down

      - raven

      -johhny

      -any one else who thinks its obito

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      kage of seven paths 5 years ago

      hope we dont get caught by the tsuki no mae before the reveal of tobi's identity...lol

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      Johnny 5 years ago

      Proof

      1) Lets go back during the Hokage sumit when Sasuke was looking for Danzo. In this scene Tobi was poisoned by one of Danzos hench men in which Tobi then cut off his arm as if it was nothing. When he cut off his arm there was no blood at all, to me it looked as though that side of his body was fake. Yet in the Manga he seemed to have a new arm (whenhe came to pick up Sasuke from fighting Kakashi, Naruto, and Sakura the reunion). If I am correct that side of his body in which he cut off his arm was the side where Obitos body was crushed. The samething when he fought Konan his body was damaged, yet now he has new body parts.... The only way I can explain this is that his body is artifical.

      2) Lets go back agian to the Hokage Sumit, Tobi talks about his moon eye plan in which he wants to have peace in the ninja world. This seems alot what Obito wanted to do when he told Kakashi "those who dont help their friends are worse then scum, i'll change that aspect of the ninja world" (paraphrasing it along those lines, if you all remember). I find that to Ironic.

      3) Tobis sharingan is the thing that tops it all off. Not many people can fit this together or even really payed attention to it. However it made sense in the last chapted of the Naruto manga and it hit me. Lets go back to when Kakashi fought Diadara when they went to save Gara. He used his MS, Kakashi's MS is a portal type technique in which it sends others ot a diffrent dimenson and in his MS he has that circular twirl vortex that sucks people in. I find it strikingly similar to Tobis technique in how he uses his sharingan to vortex people into another dimenson as well as killing them with it. Take a look at Kakashi's and Tobis technique the style is the same, the only difference is Tobi's more complete version of it.

      There is one thing I can not explain and thats Tobi's teleportation and making himself like a ghost. As we saw in the Manga when the 4th fought Madara, Madara kept making himself like a ghost in which all the attacks would go through him then harden him self up. The thing that is troubeling me is that Tobi can do the same thing. The reason why I say Tobi, is that even Zetsu calls him Tobi and not Madara. So therefor the only person who knows Tobi's true identity is Zetsu... So what is my explaintion for Madaras techniques and the same techniques of sharingan used by Kakashi and Tobi..

      Simple answer : Obitos grandfather is none other then Madara, why not go and act like it yor Madara. So how do we explain the man who fought the 4th was it Obito no... Is Obito's father... why do I say this? Is simple lets look at some interesting coincidance

      Kakashi's age in the beigning of the Naruto story is 26 years old. Kakashi's age now would be about 31 given the fact that team 7 was together for a year before they broke up, then the 2 1/2 - 3 years of Naruto training with Jiraiya. 12years before Naruto's story, was a young Kakashi at the age of 14. The point is, "Madaras attack" (as Minato said, a "Man in a Mask" attacked therefore there was no indication Madara was that man) came very shortly after Obito died very very shortly. Is that coincidence I think not. I believe Obito's father attacked the 4th and Konoha as a revenge for not being able to be there for his son. It was never said that Minato killed the man in the mask but it was hinted that he did. All of a sudden out of no were 12 years later the man in the mask reappears as if nothing ever happened to him.

      So here comes my second theory, as I said before Tobi is Obito. When Obito was getting crushed, I believe Zetsu saved him, I believe zetsu is a close friend to Obito's father and Madara, I believe Zetsu helped restore Obitos Body, and before Obito's father attacked Konoha he implanted his eye to his sons. Hense the mask to cover half of the face and keeping one eye. I bet you if anything Zetsu told the whole history of the Uchiha and everything has gone on for all these years and the corrupted ninja world. What better way then to stick to your ninja moto and change the way the ninja world is by continuing the legacy of the Uchiha.

      This is why Tobi is so much infatuated with Sasuke, becuase Obito to in his own right is an avenger. A man who seeks revenge for his grandfather, his father, for all the Uchihas who have died and above all to create the world he invisoned, the perfect world.

      Tobi is Obito, always has been. This why when the time does come and the mask is removed, everything will make sense especially to Kakashi. To many of us Obito is by far one of the most beloved charachters in all of Naruto, and the most shrouded in secreacy and least of all info. It is the same with Tobi, the name is so strikingly familar it makes you wonder since the begining of when the name was mentioned if it really was Obito. We will soon see the man underneath the mask.. And dont be surprised when I say "I told you so"

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      by the way u guys didnt relize something. tobi said * am not afraid of some borrowed power * . think about it . obviously hes saying that his power isnt borrowed like kakashi's own. and the ownly way for that to be possible is for him to be the original owner of the eyes. duh!

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      Ray 5 years ago

      Uchiha Fugaku Being Tobi - Possible. It makes sense and gives the person behind Tobi the perfect motive for doing everything to dominate all things. But there is no solid proof. At least, there is none yet. Tobi being Uchiha Fugaku is just a belief or theory.

      Uchiha Izuna Being Tobi - Possible. Uchiha Izuna also lost both his eyes as replacement for the eyes of Uchiha Madara. The Tobi we know got the Rinnegan from Nagato (Whether He Got It Back Or He Obtained It) and the Sharingan probably from Uchiha Obito as what the latest manga revealed.

      Uchiha Obito Being Tobi - Possible? I am not sure. Uchiha Obito died at a young age during the Third Great Ninja War. Tobi existed as an adult persona during that time. The time of the Third Great Ninja War and the Birth of Naruto is not that far. You cannot have a youngster Uchiha Obito being Tobi in almost the same era.

      Other Uchiha Being Tobi - Possible. But I am not convinced. What is their motive then? This includes Uchiha Shisui and the rest of the Uchiha Clan Members.

      We cannot have another twist for the identity of Tobi especially now that Naruto Shippuden is in its climax. Putting another story of another prospect persona behind Tobi would make everything complicated.

      I am convinced that the one behind the identity of Tobi is someone we already knew, but not sure of since it is not revealed yet.

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      donzell60 5 years ago

      madara was died shortly after he gave nagoto that and at that time obito would be what 2 or 3 years old think about that for a min and tell me your theory again

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      as i said again * obito met with the real madara! * thats how he knows all that he knows cmon .

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      donzell60 5 years ago

      actually raven it does have to do with time and age for him to know where the 1st hokages clone was sealed at and that statue thing as well so yes it does have to do with time you cant take that out everyone has been arguing on that for a reason he can know history sure but locations and such you have to be in that time period to be precise about that and he does have explaining to do cause if its obito then that rinnigan needs to be explaned like kage of the seven paths said also he needs to explain how obito lived why he wants to rule the world how come the mask there is only ONE thing tobi has said that would make me think its obito and that is this i quote " i am not afriad of a borrowed kumia ill show you the power of the real one now" that would be the only thing said so far that would lead me to beileve it might be obito

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      kage of seven paths 5 years ago

      my mistake...yellow flash...hehe

      i'd like to believe its obito...but you'll never know

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      kage of seven paths 5 years ago

      they don't call yondaime hokage the green flash for nothing you know...his teleportation and sealing jutsu are second to none...lol

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      raven2k7 5 years ago

      he doesnt have alot of explaining to do , u guys just dont understand the story line. obito didnt have to be living all those years just to know past history , also obito lived during the area of minato , so everything is in line.

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      kage of seven paths 5 years ago

      how come the real madara gave nagato the rinnegan...he's already dead during the era of small nagato...by reading the manga there's truth in what tobi said about giving nagato the rinnegan...only the illustrator himself knew for sure...lets wait for the next issue...if tobi doesn't activate his rinnegan the moment rasengan hit his face...the real tobi will appear...next week...hehe

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      donzell60 5 years ago

      i still want to say its kagami or an uknown uchiha if its obito then kishi has A LOT of explaining to do on that cause it would make entirly no sense and i just was reaserching and reading but the 4th hokage was a fkn beast he beat tobi one on one saved naruto and was fighting the 9 tailed fox at the same time yet its taking the nine tails guy kakshi and naruto plus bee to take on tobi everyone got to admit the 4th hokage is pretty bad ass