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Do It Your Self Musician. (Yup... you can make money at this)

Updated on January 16, 2012

You have something that is valuable.

Your music is WORTH something.  So stop giving it away!!  Here is where you will gain valuable information on how to sell your music by the example of Canada’s indie folk/rawker Deni Gauthier. 

Learn by example and pay attention.  Learn to communicate to your target audience and sell CD’s.

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Stop looking for a stupid label will you?

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Labels Suck!

Huh? you say. Oh ya you heard me. Labels suck. Don't try to get signed. Not yet anyway. Let me tell you a story.

I know a great band that was getting very popular in Southern Ontario. Like most young bands this group was performing a bit, just enough to cover basic costs, and trying to get signed. Fact of the matter is that they were very good! Not too much time passed before they completed a demo album to sell and it got in the hands of a record label that I will not name. Yay!! They got signed!! Now they could cut a record in a really nice studio, sell tens of thousands of copies and tour the continent… just for starters.

Reality; Upon signing the Label told them that they could cut a record and that they would forward them $10,000 for the production, provide a producer and a great studio. WOO HOO! BUT, the studio is on the other side of Canada, the producer costs $100 an hour and that they better be tight because $10,000 only lasts for about a week of tracking. Oh ya, they would have to cover hotels travel, food and any other cost incurred for the recording period. Oh ya, and the $10,000 has to be paid back within a year or interest will be added. Oh, by the way, You still need to book your own gigs and we don't offer tour support to bands that haven't sold a certain amount of albums. One more thing, you make nothing on album sales until your debt is paid off, and after that we'll give you 20 cents per album sold. Sound good? And we own your music.

HUH? Pardon?

Wow, something sounds fishy here but I can't put my finger on it. The band broke up in a year and they are still paying off their dept. Their CD never really sold because they didn't have the skill necessary to book profitable tours.

To make this quick I'll get to the bottom line. You don't NEED a label until you are selling so many albums that you can't keep up with it. You'll just end up licking your wounds in the gutter wondering what the heck just happened to you!

Keep this page bookmarked. I will (FOR FREE) give you great ideas on how to do it YOUR SELF.

Music video examples.

Here are two you tube vids that I've done to show you two very different examples of how you can use video to promote your latest work.

"Not There Yet" is a professional video shot by www.redrubberstudio.com

"Home" is a cover by Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros filmed on my iPhone in one take.

Both serve a purpose to drive traffic to www.denigauthier.com for the release of my upcoming EP.

Video is a great way to reach new fans, and spark new interest from old fans :)

3.5% profit, or all of it?

What are you doing to yourself?? You want to make it big as a musician right? Let me ask you a question here... This is called the "would you rather game", seriously fun on long car rides. It goes like this... Would you rather, eat a goats eyeball, or swim in a pool full of vomit? You can insert anything you want into the question and peoples answers may surprise you!

So know for my question (music related) Would you rather make 3.5% of every album that you sell, or 100%? One more here, would you rather play to large crowds and make a fraction of the profit or decent size crowds and make all the profit?

It's not a trick question. You see, there is more money and for some people, satisfaction, in working a local fan base, developing really strong relationships with fans, and doing things the old school way. You see, being a musician is like being a carpenter. You have a business, you need to figure out how to make money working your business. Your trade is "musician", your product is "entertainment", and CD's. In order to sell CD's you need to entertain, in order to entertain you need to know the business of booking.

What books are you reading to help you along in the world of business? These don't have to be music business books at all! It's ALL the same thing... business is business. Musician or carpenter, your choice... both are great.

Top five music specific books that will rocket you to paid musician status. - Honestly... thes are INVESTMENTS into your carrear.

Want to get serious? Well then, what makes you think you think that just going out "there" will sell your music?? It's time to invest into your future and get educated.

When I started reading these books I realized that the more I read the more chance I had at becoming successful. Did you know that if you read just 5 books on one subject, you are considered an expert in that subject? How many books have you read on music business?

Here you go. These are for you to buy and grow. Put your money on the line and invest in your future. I've read them all at least twice.

David Wimble's 8th Edition The Indie Bible
David Wimble's 8th Edition The Indie Bible

SOOOO much information on where to submit your music. REMEMBER, target your target audience.

 
All You Need to Know About the Music Business  6th Edition
All You Need to Know About the Music Business 6th Edition

ALL you need to know? Not really, but lots of good stuff in there.

 
The Future of Music: Manifesto for the Digital Music Revolution (Berklee Press)
The Future of Music: Manifesto for the Digital Music Revolution (Berklee Press)

Want a glimps into the future? Part of being smart in business is getting in front of trends. CD's are yesterdays media. You still need them, but you need to look forward to the next trend in music. Digital media.

 
How I Make $100,000/year in the Music Business (Without a Record Label, Manager, or Booking Agent)
How I Make $100,000/year in the Music Business (Without a Record Label, Manager, or Booking Agent)

One of the first books I bought, and a great start to learning about the music business.

 

Mac Mac Mac!

A Mac will make you more productive. And better looking. OK maybe not better looking.

HEY! Have a computer? Of course you do. It's probably a PC right? Now, I'm not going to get all religious about Mac's right now but what I AM going to say is that a Mac will let you record mix, and master your next album all by your self with no producer, and VERY little cost compared to going to a studio.

If you are reading this you are at least partly interested in being DIY musician, I want to make this real clear. It is HARD work to learn the ins and outs of the recording world. It will take trial and error, and you should do as much LEARNING about mic placement, recording levels, and who knows what else you'll need to learn. BUT IT WILL BE WORTH IT.

Back to the Mac. Did you know that Trent Reznor, (Nine Inch Nails guy) has tracks downloadable that will open up in Garageband (software that comes with every Mac) so that fans can remix his new tunes? I read a news article recently online about a very well known artist that recorded and mixed his entire album on Garageband. I can't remember who it was, but I had heard of him. First of all it's brilliant because he did it all himself, secondly because it's an incredible marketing ploy! What a great way to draw attention to his new CD. I'll bet you Mac fans bought it to hear what THEY can do on THEIR Macs.

So think about this. Part of your business is online (let's face it, that where things are going) so you need a great computer that will do graphics (pages for $99), word processing (pages again), handle your band photos (i-photo), your video blogs to your fans (i_movie with built in i-sight) and handle all your recording needs (garage band and i-tunes). You buy a Mac and right out of the box you can do ALL these things and more.

I'm not preaching, but I have to tell you that I'm so happy I have a Mac. It's made my life as a musician a lot more simple.

CD Baby!

Want to sell more albums? Get to work!

If you haven't hear of CD baby yet, you will, actually, now you have. It's the biggest independent reseller of music on the web. OK, it's HUGE. If you are an independent musician trying to sell your music on-line you can't ask for a better option.

They give you about 90% of your sales, set you up with digital distribution for FREE, give you a back end website that has all your accounting, inventory, and details. Allow you to edit your selling page anytime you want and see instant changes. Not only that but they give you a ton of reading on how to promote your album online and get sales. They don't require any minimum sales and will stick with you until you make it.

Best of all, purchasing an album from CD Baby online is more secure than using your credit card at the grocery store. They handle all the shipping, and headache of getting the CD to the purchaser in a timely and non-broken state :) You can link to it from anywhere, and get started today.

Check out my children's album below and see what the site looks like. They've put much time and effort into designing a site that is simple and appealing to the purchasers eye.

More on how to promote your album online later.

Denis

DENIS GAUTHIER: Between Me and You

Roots folk, and didgeridoo infused with children's music. Kids music that moms and dads actually enjoy.

Promote Promote Promote!!

What are you SELLING?

An interesting thought, when I started into music as a job I kept thinking "people will buy my art", and now after 5 years, over 8000 albums sold, and 500 concerts later I find myself thinking "How can I sell more product".

I can hear you now, "BOOO! SELLOUT!!". Ha ha! I get it,you think I'm a sell out because I make a living playing and recording music? I want you to understand this, you are NOT selling out if you start to think smart about how you can compensate your talent with MONEY. I wrote it before and I'll write it again, you are WORTH something. How many people do you know that can write a song as well as you? Or better yet, how many people can you think of that are professional that you think you could do a better job writing and performing? Chances are you are a lot more "talented" than many other people that make great money as a musician!! HOWEVER, they are doing something right. They probably figured out that there is more to this than just being a good musician.

I'm not kidding you, when you start thinking "how can I sell more product" instead of "people will buy my art" you are starting the right path to working your own BUSINESS as a musician.

Now I'll ask you this. What is your product? CD's? A great concert experience? Songs that your write? (that's intellectual property by the way, very valuable!)

All for now.

By the way, PLEASE rank my page! Comment! Let me know if you agree or think I'm stupid! Help me get this out there, we will all benefit by becoming more professional in the music arena.

Great Stuff on eBay - Need Music gear? DON"T pay full price!!

Why in the world would you spend full pop on the stuff you need when you can get it delivered to your door with the click of a button?? I'm telling you, this is the future. You can do all your research online and make a purchase without spending enormous amounts of money on our ever price climbing and depleting natural resource GAS.

Really... GAS should be a four letter word.

A few great tips... NOT just for drummers!

A couple of questions turns into some great tips!

I got an e-mail from a young musician. He's 16! How many 16 year olds do you know that are actively looking around for answers to questions about being a career musician? I know of one, and I thought that I'd write a post to answer his questions so everyone could see.

Miles is a drummer and is playing in a band called Critical Solution (go to www.myspace.com/criticalsolution3 to check them out) and asked me this first question. "Is life as a drummer harder than other instruments, or is it the same all around?"

First of all, I don't envy drummers! I can't imagine having to choose a vehicle based on weather or not I could fit all my gear in it with a friend as well! That aside, it's hard to find great drummers, Miles. They are in demand. If you can play it the gigs will come. (Well, not really, I'll explain)

Your best question was just to ask me for advice, so here it is.

1. I've played with a ton of drummers. My favorite guys to play with always had the smallest kits. I think that the guys that really play a lot get sick of carrying all that crap around so they play with a minimalist kit. Those guys can make big things happen with a small kit.

2. Play Jazz. When I started playing jazz it opened up a new world of music and possibilities. I'll tell you right now, that to be a career drummer you need to know how to play it ALL. Jazz is a great start. Get involved in your school music program and play in as many jazz groups as you can.

3. Play percussion. Learn how to play as many percussive instruments as possible. Be open minded, it's the kind of attitude that gets you gigs. When I was your age I was fairly closed minded to different genres of music and had a hard time thinking that I would pay anything other than Primus on my bass, now I play more instruments that I can count (I can only count to 10 :). Learn multiple instruments in your field.

4. Attitude is EVERYTHING. This goes for us all in all areas of life. People want to work with friends. In music, you will get calls for gigs and studio time if you are well liked. Granted you need to be able to play well, but lots of people do that. Are you low maintenance, do you contribute positively, are you a problem solver, are you happy, are you well liked?

5. Expand. Your band is going to hate me for this, but you asked me specific questions about being a drummer, and not about your band. Start a contact list of people that you want to play with, the people you meet and the people you respect.

Become a master of your instrument.

Improve Improve Improve!

What are do doing to Improve your SKILLS? OK, lets define what skills I'm talking about, because I'll be the first to admit that being a do it your self musician almost forces you to be a Jack of all trades.

I'll be writing about business skill, personality skills, and a hundred other things, but right now I'm talking about your "skills of an artist" (for all you homestar runner fans out there). Your chops, your moves, your licks, your ability to play the instrument you chose. VERY important. You wouldn't believe how many people believe they are good enough to go pro because they can play a few Greenday tunes. It KILLS me to think that with 20 minutes a day, and some self discipline most people would GREATLY improve their skills but maybe 8 percent of of "serious" players actually put the time in.

Your playing ability is NOT what gets you gigs. You heard me. It's what keeps the gigs (kind of, more on that later). You could have great sales skill and never get a repeat gig if you sucked. Now that you are working hard to be an employed musician you have to be smart about your money, and since you have a computer and internet already in your asset of musician tools, may I suggest that you take lessons online? For FREE? Do them on your own time, when you aren't out Rocking the free world, save gas by not having to drive there, and choose where you would like to focus your energy.

I met this great guy scouring the internet for free guitar lessons. His name is Jim, and he posts these lessons right

here so that you don't have to spend precious time looking for them. All that time saved can go into IMPROVING your skills.

Have a look, and make sure you thank him for the great service and time that he put into this for you. Maybe ask him really nice if he'll find some bass or drum lessons for you :)

Ask Denis a Question - Hit me up. I'll answer it and maybe give your band a little promotion.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      I think it's great and I agree with you...

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Well for my I started off with some windows based guitar programs and then got a Mac and I'm much happier with it!

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      DenisGauthier 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Ya, Garageband is pretty limited, and no doubt, a PC will do anything a Mac will do. I love how people like you can take a simple article and make an argument out of it :)

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Mac Mac Mac? Of course you're not preaching. You're just telling people that Mac's make people's music better.

      A mac is nothing more than a different operating system, which in my opinion is a little over-controlling and limiting, so I can't understand for the life of me why musicians, the creatives of the world choose them (other than peer pressure from guys like you).

      There is NOTHING that a Mac can do, that a good PC can't do, and I'd hazard a guess that it would be considerably cheaper too.

      Oh, and if anyone is serious about music, they might well get a Mac, but I doubt they'd settle for Garageband. There's a reason it's free.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      YO Denis -You're right I really do believe my music is worth something. Thx for the info Bro. I am a music producer & I have a friend who is a music producer as well. At some point he mentioned to me he has sold music for at least 10,000 a song but when I asked him how, he simply replied " promote on Myspace". I'm like really? I thought we were closer than that - Instantly I knew I was on my own. That said, my question is how do I get paid by soliciting my music to creditable target artist(s) within the music industry? Does any of the books listed above cover that question?

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      DenisGauthier 5 years ago

      @anonymous: You didn't read the whole article did you?

      BTW, if you are selling your SSL for a good price let me know :)

      "If you are reading this you are at least partly interested in being DIY musician, I want to make this real clear. It is HARD work to learn the ins and outs of the recording world. It will take trial and error, and you should do as much LEARNING about mic placement, recording levels, and who knows what else you'll need to learn. BUT IT WILL BE WORTH IT"

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Really just a mac computer to make professional sounding music? So I can sell my SSL and not have to worry about quality as long as I keep using my mac. Sweet! Thanks!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      "Digital Piracy"

      You never mentioned anything about it and it is a major factor for digital / internet selling of your independent music.

      I seen a video about a filmmaker. Her film has been downloaded, stolen and is being sold for profit overseas by the website who stole it,, even in different languages, and there is nothing she can do to stop it. she gets no compensation for her fine, hard earned work and years of developing her craft.

      This also is true of music recording of course. Too many people nowadays think that music should be shared and free and that artists have no moral ground to stand on. This is a sign of our times beyond music.

      You can't make a living selling your music and songs (or art) if too many people think it does not belong to you, or that you should not make a profit for your hard work.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Great advice! Im an artist myself and i would like to sell my album independently. I looked over a Sr Form for copyrights and it metioned something about a record label which leads me to this question How can i register my songs without a label? I hope its not a dumb question but i need to know! Thanks

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Great advice! Im an artist myself and i would like to sell my album independently. I looked over a Sr Form for copyrights and it metioned something about a record label which leads me to this question How can i register my songs without a label? I hope its not a dumb question but i need to know! Thanks

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      Poconoco 5 years ago

      Hey good stuff here! I just turned (cough) 41. I've been a musician since I started classical guitar when I was 5 and toured with bands since I was a teenager.

      The industry is completely different than back when I was playing clubs in the 80's and 90's. Back then, you worked to get noticed by a record label, picked up and supported and rocketed to fame! The labels are only going after artists with proven track records for any real $$ deals now... so you're dead on - don't sign to a label unless you are already making a living off your music.... HUH? It's true - it's like the pay-to-play thing - don't try to get a crowd of 50 to 100 people (if your lucky), to a 500 head venue! promote a show yourself for free and pack 50 into a coffee house! Don't aim to sell 50,000 records, but sell 1,000 yourself without a label to owe more money to! It's so easy to DIY your music career these days, but that being said, it is all still a lot of work to do!

      The $$ deals are not record label deals anymore - it's LICENSING baby! If you can write a catchy pop song and "sell out" to a big name brand tv commercial, an unknown can score a $250,000 deal! for 30 or 60 seconds of a song!! I'm not joking!! So if you want to "sell out" and don't mind making money - study the big high end tv commercials and listen to what music is being played - poppy, cheery, upbeat, with somewhat of an edge.. and HOOKY! -- so basically, write a potential hit song and shop it to music supervisors for television commercials as opposed to record labels.....

      So.... that "sell out" word/phrase/term - whatever - I used to be like "I'll NEVER sell my music to a tv commercial - F THAT!" --- now, after I've grown up, have a family and own a house, I'm like - "hmmm, a quarter million for a 3 and a half minute song and it gets used by miller genuine draft (YUCK!) - OK SIGN ME UP!!!!"

      I'm groovin' on your topics here - doing something similar myself.

      Poconoco

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      Bookmama2 5 years ago

      Oh... and I meant to say also, that I LOVED your videos and your advice on it being a great promotion tool.

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      Bookmama2 5 years ago

      You are right that you are not a sellout for promoting something you've produced that you believe in and love. It's a much bigger sellout to sellout your life to work in corporate America for a guaranteed paycheck. Believe me, cause I've done both -- no, AM doing both. Funny, just writing that brought a bit of clarity to me on a choice I need to make. Thanks.

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      Samrsmiley 5 years ago

      Great work man, this is some valuable info. Any ideas on what freelancing musicians can do?

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      DenisGauthier 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Hey! I checked out your site... sick tune!! Lets connect. I'll send you a twitter message.

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      Shadrosky 6 years ago

      Excellent lens, as a fellow do-it-yourself musician I can fully appreciate it...nothing I've done is ready to be heard yet but its getting there, I'll stop back sometime in the future...

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Hi Denis,

      really loved your article, thanks for doing this. One question, if I could only buy 1 or 2 of the books you mentioned, which would they be. BTW: I live in Santiago, CHILE. @picnickibun or www.picnickibun.com for info on my music,

      cheers!

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      sir, you are indeed NOT stupid, but a genius. now i admit a lot of this stuff i knew about cause ive been researching for a long time what to do to get this right....BUT, not only there were tips and even ways to think of the things i knew at a different angle, but i also just had a major split with a business partner and my mind, ideas, and strategies got lost in the crossfire. you have revitalized me. and now i can re-focus on what was in my plan to begin with and take on new ideas on my own terms. thank you....thank you so much... :')

      i would say i love you but that's proly going to far... ^_^

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      sir, you are indeed NOT stupid, but a genius. now i admit a lot of this stuff i knew about cause ive been researching for a long time what to do to get this right....BUT, not only there were tips and even ways to think of the things i knew at a different angle, but i also just had a major split with a business partner and my mind, ideas, and strategies got lost in the crossfire. you have revitalized me. and now i can re-focus on what was in my plan to begin with and take on new ideas on my own terms. thank you....thank you so much... :')

      i would say i love you but that's proly going to far... ^_^

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      chris-warren 6 years ago

      Great write up promoting online has never been more important with the way the industry has shifted towards single releases.

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      hi Denis,

      am trying to start a music group but i haveno money even for recording my songs.what do you think should do?

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      QuinnWolf LM 6 years ago

      Right on. More musicians need to learn to utilize the internet to get their music out there. Gone are the days of recording demos and shopping them to record labels. These days, musicians can take matters into their own hands.

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      oh man your jokes :D

      okay i'm veronica mmari. well,i don't think you're stupid.i actually believe that there's abit of wisdom in all fools just like how wise people can also be stupid.

      i wouldn't mind you marketting for me(hint) but thanks. i'm 15 and i believe i can make it.i'll do what it takes cause man i'm tired of being put down.i don't agree with ALL your points but you're a smart guy...especially marketting for mac like that.thanks so much.aurevoir!

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      JeffJoyce 6 years ago

      Please visit our lens. It's useful to anyone in the music industry!

      http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-be-a-rockstar-

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      anonymous 7 years ago

      Good Lens. Thanks for the Info.. .. (^;^)

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      anonymous 7 years ago

      My name is chris and I am 13 years old and I am a drummer and I am beginning to play the cello. I practice all the time and I my friends say I am very musically talented. My friend and I started a band and he plays guitar and bass. We just finished our first song with lyrics. We have a few problems though. We are both agnostic atheists and we are hated for it by many people. Therefore, it is very hard to find other people that are willing to play alongside us. Also, my mom and everyone in my family says I should go to a school for performing arts, but I don't want to and neither does my friend. I would really like your opinions on that. And my friend really wants to get signed to a record label and I said not when we start we don't. But he insists that we do. And he expects for people just to find us instead of us working to get recognized. I want to know how to convince him of that. And I desprately want to make it as a musician. I work really hard at it and I'm not good at anything else. And here's the main problem. I have been hiding my religious views from my family for quit som time and the only person in my family that knows is my mom. My grandparents are VERY relieous and I'm afraid that if they find out they wil take away my instruments and it will ruin my life. In that situation, how should I explain to them that I need my instruments for a career? I know I asked a lot of questions, sorry about that but I really need sone advice now. Especially about keeping my instruments. Thanks.

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      anonymous 7 years ago

      My name is chris and I am 13 years old and I am a drummer and I am beginning to play the cello. I practice all the time and I my friends say I am very musically talented. My friend and I started a band and he plays guitar and bass. We just finished our first song with lyrics. We have a few problems though. We are both agnostic atheists and we are hated for it by many people. Therefore, it is very hard to find other people that are willing to play alongside us. Also, my mom and everyone in my family says I should go to a school for performing arts, but I don't want to and neither does my friend. I would really like your opinions on that. And my friend really wants to get signed to a record label and I said not when we start we don't. But he insists that we do. And he expects for people just to find us instead of us working to get recognized. I want to know how to convince him of that. And I desprately want to make it as a musician. I work really hard at it and I'm not good at anything else. And here's the main problem. I have been hiding my religious views from my family for quit som time and the only person in my family that knows is my mom. My grandparents are VERY relieous and I'm afraid that if they find out they wil take away my instruments and it will ruin my life. In that situation, how should I explain to them that I need my instruments for a career? I know I asked a lot of questions, sorry about that but I really need sone advice now. Especially about keeping my instruments. Thanks.

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      DenisGauthier 7 years ago

      @anonymous: LOL! Man, Why is this such a hot topic for people? You seem to enjoy your PC, GREAT! I recommend not getting too hot and bothered and don't spend too much time writing these response on peoples pages... it's a bit crazy.

      No one said that OS has anything to do with audio quality.

      MANY professionals are using Garage Band for post production.

      Almost EVERY program can be purchased for both mac and PC.

      Corel Draw sucks... and cost's $500 (CAD) Pages is $99 and comes with Numbers and Keynote.

      Mac's and PC's cost about the same when all is said and done.

      If you want to promote your point of view (and your website) you may choose to approach it with a different attitude next time :)

      Denis

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      anonymous 7 years ago

      PC's are WAAAAY Cheaper for audio production. the OS has NOTHING to do with Audio quality. What really matters is your Preamp and DA/AD which has no reliance to ANY OS! Stop teaching people this GARBAGE.

      yeah mac is simple if you want to do things in garage band, which doesn't support the Industry Standard VST. also exporting tracks for professional use is a pain.

      Also Corel Draw > WAY cheaper than any mac program. Industry standard PC Graphics Program.

      also> Reaper is $60 way more options for VST support, You can drag and drop audio clips to and from your desktop or any folder when you need to move files around for further processing.

      again stop teaching people lies, mac is a big expensive waste of money.

      www.evolucianmusic.com

      www.elijahlucian.com

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      anonymous 7 years ago

      werd.

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      anonymous 7 years ago

      I would hate to see anybody on here be an unfulfilled human being. They have a calling and a purpose, it NEEDS to be fulfilled!

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      anonymous 7 years ago

      hello Denis!

      my name is jess! i'm a 16 yr. old musically inclined female child who is currently taking piano and voice lessons and progressing very well. i work pretty hard, and i REALLY want to make a living off my music. i know that major labels are a no-no if you want to make good money. i cannot tell you how badly i want to be a touring, CD-producing musician. for me, it is honestly about making people happy and reaching out to the. music is also my passion and i would like to use it to support myself. i also like to travel, so really i could say this is my dream career. ANYWAY, this webpage has been oh so helpful! i'm very frightened because i really want to do this right and i DO NOT want to be screwed over or die penniless in the streets. so again, this page REALLY helps. especially since you make everything so clear! i'm not great at writing lyrics, but i can write songs pretty easily. ugh, hahah, i'm bragging, sorry...i want at most one other bandmate (cello, actually). i know how to find other musicians...basically...my dad is another musician and he can show me how to book shows...i guess really my only problems have to do with what to do after gaining popularity. what if i produce a good CD and sell so many of them i can't keep track? what record labels are good ones? my piano teacher used to work for the music industry but i haven't heard of any "good" labels. i mean, of course, a label that won't screw me over and make sure i get what i earn! what i deserve! geez, i think that's my only question!

      you have literally answered all the others. but if i have any more questions, i'll ask! THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU ARE SUPERIOR!

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      DenisGauthier 8 years ago

      [in reply to Olga] All I can say is keep trying... I couldn't sing when I started, now I sing full time.

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      anonymous 8 years ago

      hey denis, im a 15 year old thriving musician that loves to play metal/classic rock/blues. my dream is to become a musician that plays big arenas like the budokon. i sit and play for up to 5 hours straight on my half stack. i can't get enough of it. i want to make my dream a reality but i have 2 problems. one i can't find musicians that are devoted to playing. i have found people but they play xbx 360 before music. that's not devoted enough. so where and how do i find people that will keep up with it like i do. two, how do i find and know if im signing with a right label or doing something in this category without getting screwed later on like the band you wrote about. one more thing, iv read that labels don't want people that are going to be under the influence of anything. will they care if i still smoke pot later on down the road? thanks so much.

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      anonymous 8 years ago

      What about those of us who love to play instruments, write songs, and sing, but know we are not very good...? Especially at singing.

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      DenisGauthier 8 years ago

      [in reply to Bill] Hey Bill! Good to know you :) Keep in touch.

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      anonymous 8 years ago

      Hey Denis, this is very useful. I'm digging in a little deeper and will keep in touch.

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      anonymous 8 years ago

      Hey Denis, this is very useful. I'm digging in a little deeper and will keep in touch.

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      anonymous 9 years ago

      I'm going into my first recording session. The band worked up the material prior to my arrival and I created original drum parts. Things are great, love the group and there is potential to sell records. How should I expect to be compensated? Is this something that everyone approaches individually? Any guidelines? I would love to get something for what I do on the record should it sell really well. Right now I can only see making a split on live shows but if the band sells $1000 worth of merch and only charges $200 for a gig cause of the merch potential I'm kinda losin out. Thanks for your thoughts and for putting the site together.

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      sirkeystone lm 9 years ago

      Great lens man! Keep it coming! Maybe if all of us got together, nobady would need labels anymore... ;)

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      sellyourknowledge 9 years ago

      Great lens, thanks!

      think you might be interested in additional ways of promotion and extra distribution channels - you can find more info at ways to sell music online

      thanks again!

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      anilg 9 years ago

      Great lens.. Check out my lens on making money online

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      maxlowe 9 years ago

      Rock on, Denis!!

      You've got some great info here, particularly about communication and CDBaby - I LOVE CDBABY!

      Keep up the good work!

      Max

      maxlowe.net

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      hua 9 years ago

      Keep it up!

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      Markk 9 years ago

      Deni - good stuff here will come back often for refreshed info. I like the article about not needing a label. You are right - very rarely does it happen any other way. I was helping an act to move forward - Eric Lindell - and he went through the wringer and back again.

      Thank God he loves music!

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      kristiebrottle 10 years ago

      I think your blog is fantastic! I want to get your cd from cdbaby for my kids. Keep up the great work Denis.

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      anonymous 10 years ago

      Great lens! I voted 5 stars - I invite you to check out mine too, and rate it for me! Live Streaming Video

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      anonymous 10 years ago

      Hey

      this site is amazing

      if you have the time

      email me: josh_odair@hotmail.com

      i have a few questions

      thanks

      myspace.com/joshodair

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      DenisGauthier 10 years ago

      Hey Nathan!

      I'm a full time musician, and this is how I do it. I'd say that it's pretty good adivce. Get it together man! You'd rather have "a great disc an impressive amount of pr for twelve songs worth of music"? Rather them than what? And you SHOULD have great music and pr. Have a good one!

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      anonymous 10 years ago

      Tis this same information that gets musicians in just as much trouble as major label bangers. Personally, I'd rather have a great disc an impressive amount of pr for twelve songs worth of music.

      You don't have much real concrete advice here, just opinions. Ciao.Nathan

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      anonymous 10 years ago

      Very 'in'formative and duplicate'able'. I don't even play the piano, but ivory is worth money. haha

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      anonymous 10 years ago

      Great idea man, a web page dedicated to the indie musician, how toos, what to dos, where to go, what to check out, what to read, This is a very insiteful read and I have marked it for future reference. It's good to be on the cutting edge. There no keeping up with the jones here, he is MR.Jones. Tim

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      JimH 10 years ago

      Denis

      This is a terrific lens with a fantastic message for musicians trying to make it work in a tough industry. I applaud your generosity in sharing your great ideas with others in a similar position.

      I've rated you 5 stars and added you to my favorites!

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      anonymous 10 years ago

      Denis, you rock the frontlines, keeping it real and stickin' it to the man! Your new kids album is wonderful.

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      anonymous 10 years ago

      good article indeed. i agree.

      olly