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Genealogy: A Famous Canadian Dynasty

Updated on May 22, 2017
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I started my genealogy search when I was in 8th grade. DNA testing led me to Cherokee, Saint Luke, Napoleon Bonaparte, & Marie Antoinette.

Norman French
Norman French
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Canadian cousins
Canadian cousins

Paternal Mathurin Roy Line

Imagine in a conversation with your paternal Aunt that you find out that a pair of great grandparents X10 or 11 (Mathurin Roy and Marguerite Bire-Roy) brought their children, an older daughter, Madeleine, a son Etienne, and two daughters; Marguerite and Marie Catherine, from LaRochelle France to Canada in 1643. Imagine putting that great grandfather's name into Google: Mathurin Roy and finding this article:

http://www.looking4ancestors.com/2012/10/why-its-not-surprising-justin-avril-and.html

Therefore, I and the Roy side of my family are related to Justin Bieber, Ryan Gosling, Avril Lavigne and if you look carefully, (website of the actual family tree is below) Celine Dion, appears to not be part of this article, but if you take a look at the picture that was put together, (and that I found already made online) Celine Dion is part of the same family tree as Justin Bieber, Ryan Gosling and Avril Lavigne. Funny thing, my father, was born in Canada (1946) and resides in the States as well. He's had a work visa in this country since he was 17 years old. He has not become a citizen, however, he married my mother in 1970, who was born in the United States. Therefore, she is an American citizen, as my brothers and I are. My mother's parents were also Canadian citizens, that became American citizens.

https://hoguegirardin.wordpress.com/tag/mathurin-roy/

I also found another website that led me to a Roy Family Reunion that took place at the Acadian Festival in Madwaska, Maine in July 1994. According to the site, no one showed up to the reunion from Mathurin Roy's line because most of us knew nothing about it. I wish I had, because I would have gladly attended.

This image has a road named Louis XIV, which makes me believe that the actual connection to Royalty, on the Roy side of my family, is King Louis XIV.
This image has a road named Louis XIV, which makes me believe that the actual connection to Royalty, on the Roy side of my family, is King Louis XIV. | Source

Interested in your family genealogy

So, after learning this much about my father's side of the family, I got interested in learning more about my mother's side. I went to 23andme.com and ordered the DNA test, which was $99 at that time. It came in the mail, I did the test, which required me to use first morning saliva to spit into the test tube up to the line. I sent it back in the postage paid box, and waited to get the results via email. (This DNA test, via 23andme.com, has now increased in price - $199.)

Either case, anyone that is interested in learning more about their ancestry. It is actually best that you are male as you carry BOTH the XY chromosome and they can read BOTH the maternal and paternal sides of your saliva specimen. (I didn't know this at the time I gave my specimen.) Being female, you carry the XX chromosome and only the mother's side can be read.

This journey made me realize a few things about myself. Before this journey took place, I already knew of the family connections with Celine Dion (father's line), Robert Goulet (mother's line) and Loretta Young (mother's line). It was just recently that I found out about the connection between Justin Bieber, Ryan Gosling and Avril Lavigne. However, it led me to the understanding of why I spent so much time in high school choir (Concert Choir 10, 11, 12 and Show Choir 12), and in my senior year, joining Drama Club. It made me understand the fact that my mother cannot seem to miss an awards show, music (mainly Country music) or tv/movies. I also just recently learned that, "my father CAN SING!!!" WHO KNEW? (I was downstairs and my father was watching television, an old country song came on, and out came the song. Needless to say, I WAS SHOCKED!!!) My mother?? Oh my God....She cannot sing a lick. My brothers are also major music and movie buffs. However, they never spent time in high school singing. Although, my youngest brother is heavily into art and my youngest brother was also an extra in the movie "A Will of Their Own," which starred Lea Thompson, Faye Dunaway, Thomas Gibson and Charlotte Ross (who now stars as Felicity Smoak's mother on the show "Arrow"). My brother's scenes were done in the background of Charlotte Ross' scenes. Therefore, I think it is safe to say that you can see the family traits just trickling through the family tree. So many artists in one family tree, so much expression from family members.

They are also now saying that Family History is good for kids. "Kids who know more about their family history can turn out to be more emotionally resilient than children who don't." (Who knew? I started asking questions about my family tree when I purchased my "Roy Family Tree" book from Harriet Carter's catalog, when I was in the 8th grade, when I was about 12 or 13 years old.) It makes kids feel like they are a part of something larger. Especially with this French Canadian legacy that Mathurin Roy and Marguerite Bire left for their descendants. I find it amazing!!

King Louis XIV, The Sun King (Reminds me of a descendant of mine - A very handsome young man, if I do say so myself.
King Louis XIV, The Sun King (Reminds me of a descendant of mine - A very handsome young man, if I do say so myself.
The start of the royal families coat of arms.
The start of the royal families coat of arms.

Further information on my Paternal Line

King Louis XIV has also shown up in my paternal line, as "Roy" means "King," in French. It shows up as a probable Paternal Line on my 23andme.com account. It's simply amazing the pictures that I find that remind me of family members that are living today.

The year 1663 in Canada was noteworthy for three reasons. First, it was the year that saw a very important change in how the colony was governed. The colony had been administered mainly by the fur-trading companies such as the Compagnie des Cent-Associés and the Communauté des Habitants. In 1663 King Louis XIV of France, aka the Sun king, brought the colony directly under royal rule. A new form of administration was now adopted that gave power to the Governor, the Intendant and the Bishop.

If you notice on the Coat of Arms, it says, "Saint Denis," which Denis is my father's name. His two older siblings named him.

My mom had two of her own sisters in her wedding, as well as my father's youngest sister. However, to keep her sisters from fighting, she had her best friend be her maid of honor. She didn't choose one sister over the other.
My mom had two of her own sisters in her wedding, as well as my father's youngest sister. However, to keep her sisters from fighting, she had her best friend be her maid of honor. She didn't choose one sister over the other. | Source
My mom had a Cathedral length train, an orchid corsage in the middle of her bouquet and a wedding cake that was shaped like a Cathedral. She got married Labor Day weekend, so she had her attendants in forest green, purple, fuchsia, and copper.
My mom had a Cathedral length train, an orchid corsage in the middle of her bouquet and a wedding cake that was shaped like a Cathedral. She got married Labor Day weekend, so she had her attendants in forest green, purple, fuchsia, and copper. | Source
This picture is what is used on the Mothers of Acadia Family Tree DNA online group.
This picture is what is used on the Mothers of Acadia Family Tree DNA online group.

Maternal Line H1n

Through the DNA testing, I found out that my maternal line is H1n haplogroup, which is a subgroup of H, and makes me related to:

  • Luke the Evangelist (Saint Luke)
  • Marie Antoinette
  • Napoleon Bonaparte
  • Prince Philip
  • Susan Sarandon (I thought our eyes looked similar LOL)

Haplogroup H1 is widespread in Europe, especially the western part of the continent. It originated about 13,000 years ago, not long after the Ice Age ended.

I've learned so much about my family history after my divorce. My paternal Aunt tried to find out about her mother's (my paternal grandmother's) line, however, she said there was a block on that information. I am really not sure what that is about? (There is a theory that the person who brought my paternal grandmother's line to Canada was actually an orphan from France.) Maybe one day we will go further and find out about all the families.

Throughout my childhood, I was told that we were related to Robert Goulet and Lorretta Young (both entertainers) on my mother's side. (Lorretta Young had a daughter by actor Clark Gable.) However, I don't think these actors have any records with 23andme to prove otherwise? If they did have a record, then they would show up on my list of relatives on my 23andme site.

I was told by a couple of my mom's sisters that there was a Cherokee bloodline on my maternal grandmother's side, which I am sure, FINALLY, getting this information will make my son very happy.

Cherokee MtDNA (matrilineal) results are dominated by H. In fact, according to the early test results of the FamilyTreeDNA, Cherokee DNA Project only one Cherokee participant tested positive for the authentic, full blooded, Native American MtDNA (matrilineal) Haplogroup C, while the remaining results were all positive for a number of European haplogroups with the majority recorded as H.

All of the DNA results mentioned above support the fact that at one point the original Cherokee males of Haplogroups Q and C were exterminated and replaced by European males who are the carriers of Y-Chromosome (patrilineal) R1B. The male offspring of the European fathers (Y Chromosome R1B) and the original Cherokee mothers (X- Chromosome A, B, C,D, and X) would then bring European wives into the tribe thus accounting for the dominance of European MtDNA (matrilineal) Haplogroup H amongst the modern day Cherokee women. This process helped reduce the ratio or percentage of the original Cherokee women who were the carriers of the authentic Native- American MtDNA Haplogroups A, B, C, D and X and thus the genocidal policies of European genetic warfare not only targeted Cherokee males but Cherokee females as well. In the same manner that the freedmen are referred to as "Black Cherokees" the so-called modern day Cherokee should be referred to as "White Cherokees" for they are just as much European as the "Black Cherokees" are African.

The European genetic takeover of the Cherokee Nation began in 1673 as the English realized the value of developing a trading alliance with the Cherokee which would allow them to bypass some of the other Indian tribes who were serving as middlemen for most trade routes and transactions. In order to secure the trading alliance with the Cherokee many of these English traders began taking Cherokee wives. The number of these intermarriages were so great that it is historically acknowledged as the source of corrupting the native Cherokee matrilineal clan system as the European husbands demanded full patrilineal rights thereby refusing the Cherokee women's tribal right to claim property, children and inheritance.

H1 is also found in the Family Tree "Mothers of Acadia" DNA Project. Half of this population was exiled to Louisiana, and formed Cajuns. However, I believe that I come from the half that remained in Port Royal, Nova Scotia.

Family of the father of my children

Further information, if interested: The father of my children's family. My ex husband's paternal grandfather actually changed the spelling of his last name from Hojer to Hoyer (it's Swedish), but I was told before I married into the family that they were related to Alexander the Great, and Erik Erikkson the Psychologist. Anyway, I recently read in a history book that Alexander the Great was Napoléon's hero. It kind of makes one wonder about reincarnation, and souls gravitating to souls they already know. I just found much of this to be quite interesting.

I had three children with this man. Want to take a gander on what I named my ONLY son?? Before I even realized that I was related to Saint Luke....(I, initially, chose Luke because of my paternal grandfather's name was Lucien.)

ALEXANDER the great saint LUKE

:-)

My oldest daughter looks quite a bit like the actress, Loretta Young, who was actually born Gretchen Young. However, Loretta came from a family of sisters. Many in which became actresses, but not as famous as Loretta Young. In fact, Loretta Young's youngest sister, Georgiana, was married to Ricardo Montalban, who played Mr. Roark on Fantasy Island.

Therefore, I encourage you to enjoy your journey into your own family history. It can be quite an amazing journey, which can lead to more and more surprises.

Other websites of Descendants

More notes on my question to learn more about my ancestors from my father's side. As his line goes up to the King Louis' of France, and the Sun King.

Listing of the King's Daughters: http://www.fillesduroi.org/src/Filles_list.htm

Listing of the soldiers that married the King's Daughters:

http://www.fillesduroi.org/src/marriages.htm

Make note: Mathurin Roy and Marguerite Bire Roy are not on these lists, because they married in France, and brought 3 children with them from France.

However, this may explain my paternal Grandmother's family line's entrance into Canada. Francois Breton, is probably the orphan that brought my paternal Grandmother's line to Canada, and he is listed in the list of soldiers. To increase the population, in 1663, they brought some orphans to New France (Canada) to live. They were given free passage to Canada, some personal supplies, and accommodations upon arriving to Canada until they got married. After they got married the newlyweds were given a bull, a cow, and some other supplies.

I also enjoyed reading the below website about some French Canadian History:

http://www.everyculture.com/multi/Du-Ha/French-Canadian-Americans.html

New Genealogy Journey

I am starting a new Genealogy journey, but it isn't my own. Due to the fact that I am already a member on 23andme, I am buying a DNA test for my boyfriend for his 40th birthday present. (I get a $50 discount for already being a member of 23andme.com.) This will be a different kind of journey, as my boyfriend was adopted when he was 2 days old. He doesn't know much about his biological family. He knows nothing about his biological family's health history, so I also bought the kit that will give him more information on his health too.

I have received some of my boyfriend's DNA results. As of right now, it is only ancestry kind of stuff. I have done some research on his biological parents haplogroups, and WOW.....the history is amazing. I will most likely share one day. It will be a long while before I do. I am just delighted at the original that is him.

However, just FYI - My father, previously, did not believe the results of my DNA test. However, I just told him that I made contact with a woman who is said to be my 2nd or 3rd cousin. It turns out, one of her Grandfather's is my Great Grandmother's brother. (My mom's dad's mom.) AND, this cousin brings with her 100 other family members that have a match on my DNA. ONE HUNDRED!!!

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      MizBejabbers 2 weeks ago

      That is a beautiful start to the history of your family and a well-written article. It was especially interesting to me because of the French history. We live in the Southern U.S., but after WWII our family scattered out nationwide. A DNA test on my mom's brother confirmed our suspected link to Versailles. Our ancestor is purported to be a Hugenot who fled to the new world via England and landed in Philadelphia in the 1750s. He, like many other refugees, assumed the name of Partee, and the DNA test linked us to the Perradeau family (spelling may be off) of Versailles.

      My mom's family has some Eastern Band Cherokee of VA, and my dad's grandmother was an unknown "Indian" from Tennessee, but her white surname "Benton" indicated that she was either Choctaw or Chickasaw.

      My brother's DNA test was a shock to us, and I have written about it. My dad's family came from the Johnston Clan of Scotland via Ireland, but his Y chromosomes turned out to be the Welsh Clendennin. Sometimes these tests give you quite a surprise. Good luck on your boyfriend's test. I hope you get great results and he finds out who he is.

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