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Daniel It Is, Set in Stone - Baby Name Drama

Updated on March 30, 2017

Do You Have a Story to Tell?


Conception is a lottery. Pregnancy is a waiting game. Birth is a drama of pain, hope and eagerness. Naming a child is a choice and sometimes it becomes a battle between parents or even within extended family. No wonder, there were so many rules for naming. Different times, different countries, different cultures, different traditions. But still, choosing a name is always a story and more often than not a fascinating one. Do you have a story to tell? I do.


The Mistress of the Copper Mountain

Characteristics


The Mistress of the Copper Mountain is depicted as an extremely beautiful young woman with green eyes, dark braided hair and ribbons from thin tinkling copper, and her gown is made from malachite.[2] She wears a diadem decorated with malachite and precious stones.[8] As a mountain spirit,[9] she is the protector and owner of hidden underground riches.[10][11] She is always surrounded by her servants,[12] small lizards, which can be green, blue, golden or luminous.[13] The Mistress can appear as a lizard herself.[14]According to the legends, a person who sees the Mistress comes under her spell. She shows kindness to good people and skilled craftsmen, helping them to find jewels and gold, but if her conditions aren't met, the person loses all his luck, skill and can even die.[2][15] She could permit or prevent the mining in certain places, give or take wealth.[12]

from Wikipedia.org

Lego Roller Coasters for Little People

three years old
three years old

Stupid Names. What Were They Thinking?


What makes us wonder what parents (some other eccentric parents, not us, oh, no!) were thinking when they chose a name that we do not like? Curiosity? Indignation? Passion? Concern?


We want to know. But statistics can be run only on results, not on intentions. I don’t know what parents think when they choose a name for their child, but I often ask. And I am not surprised to hear that most parents are driven by love. Ladies and gentlemen, parents mean well, maybe not wise enough (in our opinion), but choices are made with best intentions.


A Make-up Artist Getting Ready for Halloween

three years old
three years old


I have only one son and choosing a name was a long and arduous process. My ex and I could not agree on a name. We could not agree on many other things therefore we are no longer married.


We wanted a daughter, but half-way through pregnancy, we were told that it was going to be a boy. I was upset, but grateful for an early warning gave me enough time to adjust to the idea that I will have a son. At least I had some time to choose a name. I had time but not freedom.


No Repetitions


My father named me without asking my mother. He just announced to the world that he had a daughter Svetlana. My mother was furious. I think she did not forgive him till this day. She wanted to name me after a grandmother. Either one. Anasstassiya or Nina. I think it would have been Nina, my dad’s mother, because she had passed away two months after my parents’ wedding. But destiny had other plans. I asked my mother why she did not correct dad’s blunder, after all, before a birth certificate was issued it was not too late. She said it was bad luck. Not according to Russian tradition.


Note: It was precisely the Russian tradition to rename children at the age of seven – ten years old. The first name was deliberately bad, the second was good. Knowing how many people are unhappy with their names renaming does not seem so absurd. Does it?


I was not so fond of my name for a long time, but I knew that I wanted neither Anasstassiya nor Nina. Especially Nina. Somebody told me once, that Nina was really unlucky name. Remembering all Ninas I knew it seemed to be true. I doubt it now. Still, when I was younger I thought that compared to Anasstassiya or Nina, Svetlana was a lucky escape.


"The Stone Flower"


I did not want to repeat my story and I did not want to repeat my ex-husband’s story. Is there a story as well? There always is.


Ironically, his mother claimed that she could not name her son because he was named by somebody else. Not a family member, but someone who looked at a newborn and said “It’s Nikolai”. What that mysterious person meant was “He is a spitting image of his father Nikolai”. But just like my mother, Nikolai’s mother also said it was bad luck to rename a child and so there were two Nikolai’s in the family. That practice I never understood.


Inspired by all those stories, I decided that all names that were used in the family within three generations were ineligible. Maybe it was another extreme. I really liked my grandfather’s name and it was Russian, not Greek, Roman or Jewish. But it was I who had established some guidelines (limitations) and I tried to follow them.


My One and Only


Now it was time to make a choice for my own son. Being so passionate about names, it meant a lot to me to choose a good one. It meant more to me than to my ex, but I wanted both of us to be happy. I wanted harmony, peace and love. I wanted us to agree on a name, to like it and to love it. I wanted a name to be an echo of love. An echo of our parental love, not physical one. But nature has its own laws, every child is an echo of physical love or call it love-making if you wish (sometimes there is no consensus there either), but an echo of each parent and generations before them.


I wanted a name with a meaning. But all names have meanings, ALL. I wanted my boy’s name to be meaningful to me. I wanted a beautiful name. What I did not want was a common name regardless of its meaning or beauty. I am not conventional. My ex is. So, with this fertile ground for a conflict, we went: I suggested a name, he declined it with gusto - “Stupid!”


Danila, the Craftsman

Illustrations for Ural Tales by Bazhov
Illustrations for Ural Tales by Bazhov | Source

Daniel It Is, Set in Stone


About thirty “stupid” names went down the drain. We settled on Daniel. It has its advantages. It is pronounceable, it has a Russian version with lot diminutives, which is essential for our culture, and it has a pleasant cadence to it. As far as the meaning goes, the name is Jewish and it means “My Judge is God”. I don’t believe in God. But now, every time I say Daniel, I say God. Every time I say Daniel, I say judge. I don’t like those words, especially combined. But since my brain is not receptive to Jewish, the meaning is lost on me and on the English-speaking world.



To me Daniel is a phonetic combination that sounds closer to the Russian word “given” and I can accept it as a “gift”. Daniel certainly was a gift. From God, from the universe or nature? That does not matter. There is a strong association of Daniel and “Danila-Master”, the personage from a Russian fairy tale “Stone Flower” and I like the connection. It is another echo of my childhood and my love.


We went against Russian tradition and gave Daniel a middle name – Edward. I never liked its Russian version, but I wanted my son to have another name just in case he did not like his first one. I did not spend too much time picking it, because I did it soon after giving birth and I was in no condition to exert any effort, neither physical nor mental. Daniel Edward? Sounds nice? Daniel Edward it is.


Daniel Who?


There was no guarantee that Daniel would have liked his name. He does. But he does not let people shorten it. No Dan, no Danny, no liberties. In fact, it was lengthened. Since it is so rare, there are way too many Daniels and they became


Daniel I.,

Daniel H.,

Daniel M.


That was exactly what I was trying to avoid. Not only that. Russians in Toronto especially like this name. When my son was taking dancing classes, there were three Russian boys there and ALL of them were Daniels. At some point when he was still in kindergarten, Daniel was convinced that his name was Daniel-I and nobody could convince him that it was not so.


What about my safety net, his middle name? “I am NOT Edward!” Daniel says. Fine by me.


Over My Dead Body


While all other rejected names were just stupid, there was one that stood aside. “Over my dead body!” my ex said. My heart was set on it. Still. Now Daniel has an official, legal name and my CHOSEN name for him.


I will never forget it. And there was such a sweet moment once, when Daniel said: “Mom, I don’t want to be Daniel. I want to have that name that YOU chose for me.” It must be noted that if I asked him then whether he knew that name, he would not be able to say. He wanted to make me happy and that is Daniel, sweet and loving little Lion cub.


The Lion King

five or six years old
five or six years old

Yet Daniel Loves


Oh, he loves listening to the story about how his name was chosen. He likes my dramatic performance of “It’s a stupid name, it’s a stupid name, it’s a stupid name!!!” I put so much emotion into it and it looks very animated. “Mama, tell me again please, about a stupid name!”


What were those stupid names that were not chosen? There were all more or less conventional and that is why even I do not remember most of them. That was one line of thought to call him


Leo, Leonid, Leonard(o) or maybe other versions of a Lion’s name. My due date was for a Leo child and I thought it would be fun and appropriate. None of those names are too common. Daniel was, though, in no rush to appear and he came on the Leo – Virgo Cusp. It did not occur to me to choose an august name. It was not on the list.


Getting a Haircut

He is eight years old. Getting a haircut is not as simple as it seems.  "Do I have to?"
He is eight years old. Getting a haircut is not as simple as it seems. "Do I have to?"

What Did I Have in Mind?


That is another story. I had my wishes, but destiny had other plans. If Daniel wants to change his name, I will not object, I would respect his choice. After all he has to live with it more than anybody else.


Russian Tradition


As I have mentioned before according to the Russian tradition children were renamed at the age of seven – ten. Daniel is eight now.


While I keep my chosen name for him still close to my heart, I wanted to look at Daniel, at who he is actually. What is he like? What does he like? Eight years ago I expected an angel from Heaven like all rookie parents, but what do I know now?


Daniel is really a kid, I mean a little Goat. He was born in the year of Goat. He is capricious and willful. On the first picture, he is about three years old, no speech yet, but he is constructing roller coasters for “Little People”. He is still fascinated with roller coasters and when he grows up he wants to design them. He found this song “I am a roller coaster junkie” and made me listen to it. He really, really loves to laugh. His laughter is amazingly contagious and did not change since he was three months old.


Obsessed with Roller Coasters



On the second picture he is three as well and he “finishes” my “make-up” job for grandma. Look how absorbed and serious he is about his job! But he is really artistic and creative. He is wise and funny, too. I don’t know whether he feels like the king of the world, but I made him a crown. Recently, he told me that he is really good at asking and saying “no”. I guess what he meant was he knows how to get his way. I would not argue with that.





I don’t know why but he does not like to sing. But he really surprised me once with this song. This princess with a typical Russian (Slavic) name Zabava sings “I don’t want to marry for money, I want to marry for love”. I know he chose the song for its meaning not for any other extraordinary qualities. And the way the capricious and willful princess is trying to get her way? That is Daniel in female form. If he wants something, he will get it.


So, if I had to rename him now, what would it be?

I don’t know the answer except for it would be not be easy. Again.



© 2012 kallini2010

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    • A.A. Zavala profile image

      Augustine A Zavala 5 years ago from Texas

      Daniel fits him perfectly. I wouldn't change a thing. Very cute, intelligent, and artistic. The perfect Daniel...

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      kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank you, Augustine, for reading and your comment. I would not change his name now, of course, it is up to Daniel to decide whether he wants to keep it or not. And even if he does the best time is when he comes of age, not now, but I don’t think he will change it unless it would be some “stage” name or something like that. What are the chances?

      Does it fit him? That is the hardest question to answer, I could never understand parents who “just looked” at a newborn and they “saw” – “This is Lydia or Constantin or Leopold…” It takes time to know a child. It takes time to take it in that a woman became a mother, it all sinks in within TWO months (at least) and to know a child? A few years.

      But the real reason for this article was not my desire to change his name. The deed is done. I wanted to write about what name I chose and why I did not go ahead with my choice, so I am (was) planning to write another article or two – they will be more about the way we succumb to peer pressure and why. But I will save it for later. This week I have to watch my internet usage – I almost used my limit. And I have to devote my time to something far more important than writing.

      Even though, one of the new readers, someone who does not know me at all and who is a professional writer left me a comment “You have talent”. I thought about that quote about a horse…

      As my friend Jack Rosenblum likes to say: "If one person tells you you're a horse, they're crazy. If three people tell you you're a horse, there's a conspiracy a foot. If ten people tell you you're a horse, it's time to buy a saddle!"

      Shall I buy a saddle?

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      momster 5 years ago

      Choosing names is a large task for any parent. That child will have that name for the rest of their life. Great hub, thanks for sharing.

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      kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank you, momster, for your comment. I agree - choosing a name is difficult. I happen to like the "naming" stories and I love names in general.

      Thank you for the visit!

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      Martie Coetser 5 years ago from South Africa

      So interesting, and actually meaningful, to rename a child at the age of 7.

      My son's nickname is Steven. Christian names: Edward Steven. Edward is the first of his paternal grandfather's FOUR Christian names; Steven is the name I gave him (after my husband had rejected all previous choices of mine, and that while he could not contribute a single suggestion. Duhhh! You see, he did not wreck his brain about 'nonsense', and he is still like 'that'...) Choosing the right name was for me the MOST important decision to make...

      Daniel is a beautiful name for your beautiful and talented son.

      This is hilarious: "My ex and I could not agree on a name. We could not agree on many other things therefore we are no longer married."

      Hahahaha! Also my story!

      I enjoyed this hub, Svetlana... Voted up and interesting :)

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      kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Martie, what can I say? It is a mystery and a wonder every time our stories sound so similar. But disagreement really erodes marriage, doesn’t it? Everything becomes a battlefield and I would love a smooth sailing (on a battlefield?) in an ocean… If he did not care as much as I did why he did not let me choose a name I really wanted?

      Maybe I would not be writing about these names now. I hope if I get time (and motivation at the same moment) I will write the story of my CHOSEN name and also a more general hub on disagreements. I don’t want to promise.

      Speaking of promises - remember when I said I had a couple of dates lined up? Both of them stood me up, no call, no nothing. I thought “Well, the sooner we discover our “incompatibility” the better. I am just laughing.

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      Augustine A Zavala 5 years ago from Texas

      I guess you should buy the saddle if you expect to get ridden.

      I await you other insights on peer pressure. I'm sure if I ever had children, I would press for my choice. I like Ezra for a boys name, I like Elizabeth, Natalia, and Katherine for girls names. I like others that are more specific to other cultures, but since I'm not planning for children, what's the point?

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      kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      No, Augustine, I don’t expect to be ridden. Nor do I expect to ride my (???) talent. I guess the metaphor is not quite good, even though I thought it was funny, but you are right, it is never a horse who buys a saddle.

      As for the names, I think the first disagreements happen within the family since it takes more than one person to choose a name (ideally) and two people hardly ever agree. A name is not a restaurant to dine out one day. It is more serious, permanent choice to be made; therefore…there is more at stake.

      Of course, new parents think about how a new name would be received and perceived. That is your peer pressure. I never paid attention to the name Ezra (maybe I have come across it, but I have not noticed it). I looked it up and it turned out to be a name gaining popularity over the last years. In Hebrew it means “Helper” and there is a whole “row” of related names equally if not more rare – Azareel, Azarel, Azrael, Azariah, Uzaeer, Azur. It is hard to believe that names have such a long life. All history can be forgotten, people, wars, nations, but the language and names live on.

      My own name was at one point a matter of conflict between people and the Church. Maybe it is the reason I have never felt religious?

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      Augustine A Zavala 5 years ago from Texas

      Religion places restrictions and bounderies on people, that's why I have issues with it. Yes, there are some names that have stood the test of time, like David and Daniel. I've never met a Solomon, but there was an athlete I read about named Nimrod King. In other cultures there are names that are revered but reviled here. Dung means shit to us, but in Vietnamese it means warrior.

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      kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      I agree with you, Augustine, about religion. But it is religion that made sure those biblical names stood the test of time. I usually look up names on www.thinkbabynames.com

      quoting:

      Popularity of Solomon

      Solomon is a very popular first name for men (#592 out of 1220) and also a very popular surname or last name for all people (#738 out of 88799). (1990 U.S. Census)

      if you look up that name - there is a nice list of variations - I also like it because it suggests and make more obvious interconnection of names.

      http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Solomon

      When it comes to unattractive phonetic combinations coming from other languages - it is unavoidable. Names are just words and once you start learning another language one of the first stumbling blocks you encounter is

      UNPLEASANT phonetic combinations.

      For me, it was was the word "THREE" - I just could not disassociate it from Russian "defecate" in a rude form. Later, I have managed to disassociate and I rarely remember "my beginnings".

      To me, even "shit" and "sheet" was a challenge.

      Maybe still is!

      It is hard to gauge the popularity of Jewish names. My father is Iakov and even though it was in use by Russians for generations just as Ivan was, after the Revolution and with passing years it fell out of favour and became almost an indication that its owner was a Jew. My father is not, but just because of his name...

      But i was so surprised to know that Jews here can have two names - one Jewish (it could be Solomon) and then a name for non Jewish community.

      One of my friends has three names - Jewish, non-Jewish for friends and family and the third for business.

      And there is one interesting "fact"? about renaming - Chinese have three names throughout life-time

      1) given at birth

      2) given at adolescence

      3) adult name.

      I find the topic names simply fascinating.

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      epigramman 4 years ago

      ....well my fellow Canadian and intellectual tango and sexy salsa dancer - you put together the greatest hubs of all time - and I have said that from the very beginning when I first saw/read them and no one and I mean no one does it quite like you - you are a true superstar and one of a kind - hubravo from the epi-man - lake erie time 6:44pm

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      Sushmita 4 years ago from Kolkata, India

      Kallini, I am keeping the other temporally relevant comment for elsewhere, and talk only about the hub. That rambling style is just the one I would like to inculcate. I do at times though, but not yet in HubPages. I loved the images and videos you have put together and the photographs of deal, lil Daniel. Particularly the King Daniel. The pain of it, not to be offered a choice, and the joy of it to see providence make things work in a fashion, maybe fitting things out so that it is not really a square peg in a round hole! Your writing is atypical of Russian folklore; I don't know if that is intended or just an effect of your mother tongue. I have been an ardent follower of Russian culture and literature since 2-3 years of age. I have my personal philosophy on names and I ascribe character traits to the name; in India we have names that necessarily must have a meaning. My name means 'the smiling one'; if you take one middle S off the name,it would have meant 'A good friend', which was easier to understand..that was what I aspired to be as a teenager; I would knowingly give out a different meaning to those unaware of the difference. I must vote up this as superb hub and share it too. My blessings to dear Danial, whatever name he or you may like to call himself by.

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      wewillmake 4 years ago from kerala-INDIA

      Naming is a great confused and sometime become problems to the parents.. many are successful in the combined decisions, but many fail in this and started fighting over the names...

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank you, Colin, for your comment - I had to reread the hub myself to refresh my memory, to understand what displeased the unknown moderator...

      a personal story...

      of course, it is a personal story. In Russian, we don't say "first name", we say "personal name".

      Names are personal so are the stories.

      When it comes to naming children, there is no

      "How to make a decision",

      "What is a beautiful name..."

      We decide taking into consideration all those stories that we know about how naming turned out and, yet, more often than not displease someone including the ones that are being named.

      Thank you for your support. I appreciate it very much.

      This gentleman in question - Daniel - did not let me sleep all night today and I feel like... a mother.

      A sleepy one...

      Que dolor!!!

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank you, sen.sush23 (the smiling one, the friend) for your support.

      I am sorry I could not respond sooner to your comment - this sleepless night was a bit too much for me - I feel like my brain refuses to cooperate.

      Today I would call myself "Oh, the Brainless One".

      I agree that names reflect character and do love names, I love learning more about then and understanding what went into naming (history, culture, and, yes, PERSONAL stories).

      All names have meanings, not only in India, but when a name migrates into another language/culture, the meaning becomes obscure/lost.

      I have met a Spaniard with a typical Russian (of Russian origin) name who was telling me that I didn't understand what it meant. I could accept that he was relying on what he was told as he did not have a feel for the Russian language. But there was a Russian linguist who said that Russians no longer understand the meaning of the same name. I was appalled.

      The name is

      "Vla'dimir"

      = "vladi" (to own, to rule) + "mir" (world or peace).

      It is obvious that the only meaning here is "The ruler of the world, the one who owns and rules, a king..."

      The Spaniard was told by Russians that it was "The ruler of peace" and I said:

      "Does it make any sense to you? Who rules peace? You can establish peace, have peace, but not rule it".

      Yet, another personal story - it is much easier to say -

      What a beautiful Russian name - Vladimir!

      It is beautiful, I agree, it is even Russian and it was the one that would not be so common - that was the name my grandfather had, but I made a rule - no names used in the family recently.

      My son will not be named AFTER someone else...

      Good decision?

      Bad decision?

      Who knows?

      But that's what makes it a story, a personal story.

      There are way too many hubs who just say - these are the names or avoid those STINKERS!!! or Japanese names...

      but where is the originality? You can look up this info in a second in google.

      I don't know...

      Thank you, my friend, for reading and commenting, I appreciate your feedback and your support.

      I am sorry for the truly rambling style of this comment, but somehow, I just cannot handle this sleepwalking-ness.

      What a pain!

      That is why as pen name I picked "Dolores" (Pains/Sorrows in Spanish), yet, now/recently I was told

      Dolores/Lola/Lolita is symbolic of a heart-breaker.

      Who knows?

      Yo no se...

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      Gypsy Rose Lee 4 years ago from Riga, Latvia

      Voted up and awesome. This is a wonderful story and Daniel is a handsome boy with a great name. Thanks so much for sharing.

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank you, Gypsy Rose Lee, for reading and leaving a comment. I think that "a personal story" is what makes a name personal and not just some name/word/label.

      Names evoke feelings and we cannot feel for every name that is out there. That is why names were created as concepts, - light, love, flower, defender - to evoke those feelings, but every person would take it further -

      not just any love, but MY LOVE. Even the word love evokes feelings on its own.

      And for me the word PERSONAL - is quite evocative. As evocative as the word "indifferent" - I feel this cold and want to grab a shawl!

      Indifferent was that reader, who I suspect did not read further than the first paragraph, and did not think the matter, through. It could be, though, just a glance at photographs - they do tell a personal story.

      Now the popularity of the article went up. Any publicity is good publicity?

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      I have not been writing for so long that I have not even noticed that now EVEN comments are PERSONAL, as well!

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Dear readers, all my personal readers! Now, that we have discussed what is wrong with personal stories - the hub is the hottest in its category. What a world!

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      Sushmita 4 years ago from Kolkata, India

      Svetlana, your comment to my response can easily become another wonderful hub. I am actually loving this entire development- even this becoming the hottest hub. Cheers!

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Yes, sen.sush23 - you are right - I have a tendency to write mini-hubs in my comments. Maybe I should write another... This article was the last one that I published, more than two months ago. Well, well, well.

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      Ausseye 4 years ago

      Hi K12: Breath taking and yes a devoted marvellous mother by name…..wow what a hubber DER hub…reading it was a breeze of fresh air…..I am in aware. Ausseye to your talent.

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Wasn't K12 a police dog or something? HubPages did not like the article for being too personal. But selecting a name cannot be a generalized story, can it?

      Thank you for reading, Ausseye, and thank you for your comment!

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      IsadorasThought 4 years ago

      I admit I was just going to skip through this hub at first but then I ended up reading in TWICE from beginning to finish :) It's got it all - it's funny at places, you made the subject extremely interesting and it's such a beautiful tribute to Daniel. (Still Daniel, right? ;) )

      I changed my name first when I was seven and I never knew about the Russian tradition. Legally, I changed it at 21, to yet a different one. When I saw it in my passport, I felt like me for the first time ever. It was a strange feeling, your article reminded me of that time. Thank you, awesome work you've done here.

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      Mr. Happy 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Fun little guy he is! : ) Send him my greetings, please.

      Names are tough, I have difficulty even remembering them at times. That is why, I often make-up my own names for people - I like giving people nicknames. My friends' nicknames range from Del Torro, to Sugarcane, El Presidente, etc. I think the names I give them fit quite well. I have had no complaints. Haha!

      I also tell people that they can call me whatever they wish. I will not impose a name for myself like my parents did. Not that I dislike my name but I know that the same thing may often have different names ... diferent languages, different perspectives, etc.

      Sometimes mutations happen by mistake, or from misunderstanding. I like Johnny (there is somebody I actually call "Johny-Johny") but sometimes it becomes Jonny, or Johny ... or Johannes di Silentio. : )

      You have a great day, Kallini!

      All the best.

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thanks for your comment, Mr. Happy!

      I have been looking for a name for you for a long time (as you know) and you have declined all my suggestions,

      but, in the end, for myself - I have finally called you Aladdin.

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      I know your stake on names, but to me, it is just one area of interests. When I have a chance to get more organized - I am sure I will continue to torment the world with my thoughts about names.

      In the beginning I was vehement to be called Svetlana and nothing else, but after that fight was won, I came to the conclusion that as long as I am happy with the name whether of my own choice or someone else's - it's all in good fun.

      Now (Ahora) mi nombre es Dolores.

      Well, Dolores Marina de la Luz - I did not go that far with the Spanish-speaking world - I think - testing this monstrosity would be the next step.

      And speaking of Silentio

      there is this song

      "it has been three years since I saw you ...

      talk to me, stop this torture

      break the SILENCE, because your silence means good-bye"

      =========================================

      No me hablas tesoro mio, no me hablas, ni me has mirado

      fueron tres años mi vida, tres años muy lejos, de tu corazòn.

      Hablame, rompe el silencio, ¿no ves que me estoy muriendo?

      y quitame este tormento, por que tu silencio ya me dice adios.

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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT0GKQNIZB0&fea...

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      Cheers,

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      Maria Jordan 4 years ago from Jeffersonville PA

      Dear Svetlana,

      How lovely to see your young man in these happy poses through the years.

      I cannot imagine how difficult selecting the perfect name is... I also love the tradition where your youngsters have the opportunity to select a new name.

      Your warmth and dedication to Daniel is beautiful. Thank you for sharing this with me.

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank you, Teresa, the only thing I can add now is who surprised I was when Daniel had to name his first Teddy bear. The one that he selected himself and insisted that we bought it. The bear is larger than me and it was something that Daniel chose for his 9th!!! birthday. I really thought the time has passed for that kind of toys. No, forty-two dollars (only!!!) and this big thing....

      But the name, after a very short struggle, the bear ended up being "No Name". Just bear.

      I said, but he already has a name - Teddy - Theodor (theophoric name), in Russian becomes Fyodor

      (like Fyodor Dostoevsky)

      So, I said, in Russian we can call him "Fyedya" - I know it is hard to pronounce for you, but now Daniel put up resistance to all my shenanigans. So, to me the bear is Misha Feydya,

      to Daniel he is just BEAR. Talk about name calling. Daniel went by the essence.

      And speaking of Marias - my teddy bear is called Masha, that is Maria for short. And I also got it when I was an adult - about ten years ago and it was the only toy I was not ready to pass to Daniel. Masha is mine and mine only.

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      Maria Jordan 4 years ago from Jeffersonville PA

      Oh I laugh at my concrete weirdness, as my teddy (now over 40 years old) is BROWN BABY. My doggie is AUNT BABY... And I call many people baby... Uh oh!

      I love that your Masha (that is much lovelier than Maria) is exclusive, just as Teresa is. Everyone needs a teddy bear.

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      Gareth Pritchard 4 years ago from North Wales

      I enjoyed your Hub and remember the difficulty endured between my ex and myself when trying to come to an agreement on a name our my son.

      My sons name is Daniel and it was not my choice but I could have had my choice because it was me who registered him at the registry office so I could have named him my own choice but I didn't.

      My name is Gareth but I have been called Bog since I was a very young child and although many other people don't consider it to be a nice name I like it. I was called Bog by other children who wanted to be nasty towards me when I was a child but I still like it. I have written a hub about this bullying as a child.

      I also know that if anyone mentions the name Bog others do not forget it easily because it is still unusual or not a very nice name but I don't get mixed up with anybody else.

      Some older people call me Bob because they can't bring themselves to calling me Bog, this is because Bog is a slang term for toilet in the UK.

      The interesting thing is, many Polish people have moved to the area where I live in recent years and a popular name in Poland is Bogdan I am lead to believe.

      Everybody calls my son Dan and not Daniel so BogDan is our name and a real name as well. He likes the name Stan and so I often call myself BogStanDad. This is a play on the word Bogstandard that means the basic model of something in manufacturing derived from the term Box Standard.

      I think of myself as a BogStanDad human being.

      I give you a big thumbs up for this inspiring hub.

      Thanks, Gareth, a BogStanDad human being.

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank you, Gareth, for reading my hub and leaving a comment.

      I am of the conviction, that there are no meaningless names. Most names originate as a word with a meaning and that the whole idea in name-calling as well. We are seeking meanings (pleasant or otherwise), we are longing for meanings. Somehow we end up borrowing names from other languages and cultures and when a name migrates, it travels in its phonetic shell and loses its weight - the true core - the meaning.

      I have never known the word "Bog" until you told me and the meaning I find rather bizarre to be used as a name. But I understand your own rebellion. After all, it is your right to be called what you like to be called. I think we should be allowed to choose our own names at some point.

      I have written more on the topic on names and I have repeated so many times, that it was precisely the ancient Russian tradition to give a child the first BAD (as bad as it can get) name and then rename him at the age of seven with a good name. So, your name Bog should have been replaced by a good name as soon as you outgrew the need for it.

      It is ironic, of course, that this precise word "Bog" (pronounced more like "Bokh") means GOD in Russian and other Slavic languages. I like the name Bogdan, even though it is was rare in the Soviet Russian when I was growing up. I don't know what is the situation with names now - probably the same as usual - once a name becomes popular, half the children get the same name.

      There is another hub I wrote - not exactly about "Daniel", but a contemplation about God and God related names -

      https://hubpages.com/education/Names-an-Echo-of-Lo...

      You might find it interesting.

      You might even consider writing your own story about your name. I find those stories fascinating. Names are personal and every name as every person has its own unique story.

      As strange as your insistence on being called Bog can be, there are other odd names out there. For example, the name Odd (a Norwegian male name and quite popular at that). There was a famous person called Odd Bull.

      You are unique, your name is unique and your story is fascinating.

      I was not in favour of choosing Daniel as the name for my son, but I like it. Certainly, I would never understand the concept of "My Judge is God" which in Russian would sound "Moy Sudja Bog". How does that sound?

      Odd. Very Odd.

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      Gareth Pritchard 4 years ago from North Wales

      The true definition of the word bog in the English language is, swampy, marshy, ground, a bog. The use of the word for a toilet is a slang word not in the English dictionary as far as I know. It is a word often used but not recognized and might be because it would be an insult to religious belief to give the word authority in the English dictionary if it means God in another language, I think.

      The Norwegian translation for bog is pork, I have been told, which is the name for pig meat in English and I have been to the Odd Bull's house in Norway, an interesting wooden building on a little island, where you have to take a small boat ride to get to it.

      Thank you for the further information about the word/name Bog, very interesting but I can only give one thumbs up sorry.

      Gareth, a BogStanDad human being.

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Dear Gareth,

      thanks again for your comment. Rest assured that I am not expecting "Thumbs Up". I am not that kind of writer. I know that a lot of my readers who love my stories simply forget to rate them. Writing for ratings might be a motivation for some, but not for me.

      I am simply share my beliefs.

      I was fighting for my name Svetlana and in fact one of my first stories was about it. As soon as the fight was over, where the major point was not letting people cut in half my name and calling me Lana, and, especially writing about it, I lost such inexplicable attachment to my name.

      In the course of writing on HP, I came up with a pseudonym, a pen name - Dolores Marina de la Luz. I don't know how potty it must sound to the Spanish speaking audience, but indeed I started introducing myself as Dolores in a social gatherings, especially at dancing where there were plenty of Latinos.

      The phenomenon of Dolores, the name which meaning is understood by the native speakers, is something odd as well. Dolores in Spanish literally means "pains, sorrows", but it is not perceived as such. Dolores has a notion of a heartbreaker, femme fatale (which I learned later and it was not my intended meaning, but by that time I was unable to part with this name).

      I love the associations with pain. And I find some similarities that you are not willing to let go of your pain of childhood.

      To me, names are fascinating. Not always pleasant. But it depends on the taste, tradition, and so many things.

      Who knew that the name Maria originally meant "Bitter". Yet, bitter tastes are medicinal and Italians love their bitter tastes.

      Take care, Gareth.

      I still think that your name story is very engaging.

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      Gareth Pritchard 4 years ago from North Wales

      I have written about my name already in the hub about bullying. I do not want to post a link into a your comment box because I am not trying to become labeled as a spammer. If you are interested which I think you are, then you can find it I am sure by just doing a search for (Nickname, do you have any, how did you get your nick names?) here on Hubpages.

      I like bitter tastes also but I am Welsh not Italian, ha, ha, and hey, Dolores, you hardly strike me as the femme fatale type, no offence intended.

      Thanks again, Gareth.

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Yes, I have found your hub and I left a comment there. I am not offended at all, I may or may not be a heartbreaker or a femme fatale, it is not for me to judge, but it was funny and unexpected that as soon as I decided to introduce myself as Dolores, people found it more interesting to call me Svetlana.

      "But what is your real name?"

      Before that there were too many attempts to call me something else. In French class, they called me Claire. But in fact, translated, my name means LightLight or Double Light.

      That can be painful, burning in fact.

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      LongTimeMother 4 years ago from Australia

      lol. I am guilty of thinking one name suggested by my ex was stupid, although I didn't call it stupid out loud. I thought it would be hard to go through life with that name.

      Years after we parted, his next child was given that same name. I thought the kid's mother was stupid for not seeing what a burden they were placing on the child. I didn't say that out loud either. :)

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      kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank you, LongTimeMother, for your comment. I don't think there are too many stupid names as such, there are names that we like and the names that we dislike. It is more a matter of fashion, so to speak rather than stupidity.

      But after having thought about names for a long time, I came to the conclusion that everyone should be given the right to choose his own name. I don't see it happening soon, so the stories will go as they went before, the first disagreement between parents is on choosing a name.

      There was a comedy I watched recently - "Due date" with Robert Downey Jr. - he was playing a serious character caught in a situation with a weird one and while he was choosing a name for his ... child to appear ... the movie ended up with the weirdo naming the child to whom he had no relation.

      I still did not reveal to the general public (even my friends) the name that I chose, but I changed mine. I am just fascinated with the topic, that is all!

      Thanks again for the comment!

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