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Handwritten Old Letter from WWI War Buddy in Frisco, Texas dated 1921
Photo of bi-plane serving in World War 1
Old letter
This was one of two old letters carefully tucked away for safe keeping in a vintage cigar box written to my grandfather from a World War 1 war buddy who lived in Frisco, Texas. This handwritten letter was dated January 9, 1921 and the other one was dated Feb. 29, 1920.
Obviously they had formed a bond and lasting friendship while fighting in France during World War 1 and had kept in touch with each other since returning home.
In those early days of airplanes and in particular the World War 1 planes, it was a rare breed of person who engaged in that type of warfare.
The other letter ( also featured in a hub ) written by this same gentleman to my grandfather stated the obvious...that many pilots did not get to return home and were killed while flying those airplanes often because of mishaps in the air in addition to enemy fire.
It was dangerous work!
The Airmen of the First World War
Picture of my grandfather in uniform during World War 1.
Excerpts from my grandfather's obituary...
On October 24, 1917, at Fort Sclocum, New York, when the country issued its first call for volunteers in the World's war, Mr. Vogt enlisted and was a member of 50th Aero squadron. He was advanced to the place of master election, and remained with the squadron until the Armistice was signed.
His squadron was organized at San Antonio, Texas; was transferred to New York and then overseas to England, where for a time it was attached to the Royal Air forces for training. The squadron arrived in France July 14, 1918, and was entrained for their first quarters at Goundrecourt.
As a non-commissioned officer, Mr. Vogt saw active service in the St. Mehiel drive, and later in the Meuse Argonne sector, for which he was awarded a service button. It is interesting to note that Mr. Vogt had charge of the first liberty plane to fly over the enemy's lines, and also had charge over the plane that discovered the famous "Lost" battalion.
Over the Front - original aircraft footage (b&w, silent) (Filled with good information about those days.)
Home of my grandparents and where my dad was born.
Okauchee, Wisconsin - Vintage Cigar Box
I can only wonder about the letters that would have been written to Mr. Hubert H. Rogers in return.
They were undoubtedly interesting as well.
From other letters of reference in this same vintage cigar box in my possession, I know that my paternal grandfather ( prior to the war ) had worked as a trained automobile mechanic in New York ( which obviously put him in good stead when being responsible for keeping those bi-planes and tri-planes in the air ); been trained at the Packard Chauffeurs' school and had been employed as a chauffeur for a bank president in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He had also worked for several years as a chauffeur in Pasadena, California for a Mr. Robbins from Farmers and Bankers Investment Co.
After World War 1 he would have returned to his home and started his home-building business in Okauchee, Wisconsin where he constructed the home for his bride (my grandmother) as well as a string of rental cottages on the lake.
My dad was born in that same house.
Sadly at the age of only 8, the young boy who was to later become my father lost his dad due to pneumonia. Those were the days prior to antibiotics and pneumonia was the cause of death of many people.
Who knows what my grandfather would have accomplished had he lived longer!
He was certainly highly regarded by those who knew him and he achieved much in the 46 years of his life.
Handwriting of Mr. Rogers...
War Buddy
Mr. Rogers and my grandfather survived World War 1 and shared a common bond that was forged and cemented as only other war buddies can probably truly understand.
Obviously theirs was a strong friendship and yet, notice the formality with which this old letter was written?
Place from which Mr. H.H. Rogers was writing his letters to my grandfather.
Do you have old hand-written letters that shed light upon events in the past?
Picture of my grandfather in WW1 uniform
Handwritten Letter
Here is the letter in its entirety:
"Frisco, Texas
Jan. 9, 1921
Dear Friend, Mr. Vogt:
I want to thank you with my whole heart for your lovely remembrance of Christmas. To say that I appreciate these cigarettes is expressing my gratification in the mildest of terms. If it is possible to do so, they make me esteem you all the higher and appreciate your friendship all the more. They have indeed been a pleasure, everyone of them giving me visions of you, your present whereabouts and your movements - and making me realize that true friends mean more to a person than anything else in this world. I am always happy to count you as such, and I shall forever cherish you & your memory as one of the truest friends and the most real man whom I had the pleasure of knowing in France and since our return.
I would have written you much sooner - only I mislaid the wrapping which contained your California address, and only recently my sister-in-law told me that she burned it, not thinking it of any value. So you see what Sister-in-Laws can do! I'm sending this to Wisc. in the hope that it shall finally reach you.
I have been working like a Trojan for so long that I have forgotten everything else. I resigned my place on the farm and went home for a week during Xmas. I had a good time too - kids all home from College; several girls had visitors and I was lucky enough to be called onto help entertain them. That almost made me feel young again. I soon forgot about my rough hands, my gray hairs and wrinkled brow - and I had a better bunch of honest fun than I've had for years. But now I'm back to the washtub - with a few more beautiful faces to haunt my memory.
Our wheat and oats are looking fine - and the green bugs seem to be here only in very small numbers. Papers declare that the prospects of a bumper grain crop in Texas are very good. I only hope the paper farmer prophets are correct.
I trust that you are enjoying California again, and that everything is going well with you. I'd surely like to see that state as you have.
I imagine that you have seen a good many of the boys of old 50th. Whenever you bump into one, give him "Old Rogers" best. Those prune gatherers of old 50th were a jolly good crowd.
I hope that 1921 will find you realizing your dreams, and reaching your ambition; that Dame Fortune will place her choicest wares at your disposal and that Father Time will deal gently with you.
I shall be more than delighted to hear from you anytime.
With every good wish, and my most heartfelt thanks for your generous remembrance.
Sincerely your friend,
Hubert H. Rogers"
Other letter from Mr. Rogers...
- Old Correspondence 1920 Handwriting Letter found in Beautiful Vintage Cigar Box
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Summary
Hopefully readers of this old letter will glean some insight as to hand written communications back in 1921 from this particular World War 1 war buddy of my grandfather's who returned home to live and work in Frisco, Texas.
1918 photo of 50th Aero Squadron, Harlaxton Airdrome, at Grantham, England
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Comments are most welcome!
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Hello Robert Sacchi,
This certainly is a look at past history. Glad you liked this.
Thank you. This article gives a good look into the past.
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Hi Patricia,
So nice that you still have some of your Daddy's old journals and writings. Things like that are real treasures! Appreciate your comment, votes and the share and sending good wishes your way this morning.
Finding treasures like this takes us back in time and gives us a glimpse at how things must have been I have found a number of writings from my Daddy to family as well as a few journals he kept ...what a treasure they are.
Ah...the bonds of friendship speak loudly down through the years.
So glad you shared this with us Peggy.
Angels are once again winging their way to Texas this morning ps
Gladly voting up++++ and sharing
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Hi Virginia,
So glad that you enjoyed it. That letter and another one are now in a Frisco museum.
How marvelous to share this letter and your knowledge about it online.
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Hi Peg,
The actual letters, this one and the other one dated 1920 are now up in a museum in Frisco, Texas. I donated them after I was contacted by some people who expressed an interest in them. Apparently the Rogers family were influential land owners and from what I was told have a school named after them and even a street somewhere in that general location of Dallas. Glad that you liked how this was written. I agree with you that modern communication methods will never be quite the same. Appreciate your comment.
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Hi moonlake,
Nice that your sister salvaged those old postcards. Old letters like this as well as postcards can tell much about the past and become bookmarks of periods in history. It is a shame that my grandfather had to die so young. Thanks for your comment, vote + share.
What an interesting piece of history captured in this handwritten correspondence from your Grandfather's friend. I love the way he expressed him fading youth: "That almost made me feel young again. I soon forgot about my rough hands, my gray hairs and wrinkled brow..." and the terms he gave to the forecasters: "paper farmer prophets".
The future will hold a different sort of remembrance, paperless tweets of font driven characters, lacking the unmistakeable personality of this handwritten thank you letter. So glad you preserved this piece of history and shared it here.
Loved reading the old letter. Sad that your dad lost his dad at such a young age. My mother was throwing away old post cards until my sister found out and saved them. Voted up and shared.
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Hello Johnnyd44,
Nice to know that you enjoyed this bit of family history and how it related back to World War 1 and afterwards from this letter written to my grandfather in 1921. Thanks for your comment.
Peggy W,
Very powerful! I love the letters and the videos. Of course, I love history as well. Thanks for providing.
Johnny
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Hi EdwardB,
Thanks for sending your email address. I'll work on sending you more information of which I am sure you will be interested.
I have sent another e-mail - I was able to get a copy of the image, but its a little fuzzy - so if you can send a copy of the original that would be great (ebujak@harlaxton.ac.uk)
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Hi Edward,
I just checked and did not see it. Even checked the Spam folder to make sure. If you wish to copy the photo from this hub you have my permission. Do you know how to do that? If not try sending your email address again by using the orange colored envelope at the top right of this hub which says Contact Peggy W. Let me know when you've done that and if I do not receive it again I'll contact HubPages to see if there is another way to retrieve it. Thanks!
Thank you - I have sent you an e-mail.
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Hi again EdwardB,
I could actually email you a copy of this 50th Aero Squadron group if you give me your contact information. It might be faster than contacting the Frisco Museum folks. I will leave that to you to decide. If you contact me via the contact info. above, leave a comment so that I will be sure and look for it as it goes to a separate email address. If you feel comfortable leaving your information in a comment box, that would also bring it to my attention quickly. Nice to know that I can be of some help to you.
Thank You Peggy W! I'll follow this up and try to get a copy of the above photograph of the squadron for the College - being able to link today's generation of Americans studying in England at Harlaxton with the generation who fought in the Great War and were stationed for a time on an aerodrome just beyond the tree-line facing our classrooms is simply awe-inspiring. Seeing the picture above and reading-up on the heroism of the 50th Aero Squadron has made this a very special day.
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Hello EdwardB,
I have no idea if any of these photos were with the Museum of RAF Harlaxton. The name of the museum that now has these donated letters, the picture of the bi-plane and a copy of the 50th Aero Squadron in England (I kept the original) is the Heritage Association of Frisco, Inc., P.O. Box 263, Frisco, Texas 75034 Another method of contact is www.friscoheritage.org Judy Isbell (secretary) was my contact person with regard to my donations. Hope this is helpful to you. Thanks for leaving a comment and good luck with your research.
Hello - I work at Harlaxton College (the overseas campus of the University of Evansville in Indiana)- and the WWI RAF aerodrome was on the hill behind the Manor that is now the College. I am researching the history of the Manor in WWI and airbase (in our garden) - I find it amazing to think there were Amercians here in 1917/1918 and in 2011! Were any of the photos now with the Museum of RAF Harlaxton? If so could you let me know the nam,e of the Museum please?
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Hello scott33thomas,
A museum in Frisco, Texas now has both of those old letters as well as some accompanying photos...so their historical value is being preserved. Thanks for your comment on this letter from the WW1 era.
Imagine the historical value that will have this letter
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Hi Hello, hello,
Have you written a hub about that old letter in your possession? That would be interesting to read. Thanks for your comment.
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Hello Freelance Writing,
How very interesting!!! Thank you for this informative comment. One letter that was passed on to my brother and has now disappeared after his death was a letter from Windsor Palace thanking the U.S. airmen for their service. It was on official stationery.
Will have to look for that movie. THANK YOU!
I find them fascinating because there is so much heart and feeling in personal historical evidences. I have got a letter from my uncle from Tobruk, written on eve of the battle where German troops were defeated and the POW were shipped to America.
Hi Peggy, and hello from England. I was interested to see the picture taken of your grandfather while he was stationed at Harlaxton. Harlaxton was originally a Royal Flying Corps aerodrome and was transferred to the Royal Air Force when that was formed by combining the RFC and the Royal Naval Air Service in April 1918.
The expansion of numbers, plus the sudden influx of American airmen, meant that overflow sleeping quarters had to be provided near Swinderby village some 20 miles away. Of course, only enlisted men were inconvenienced, not the officers. However, it did mean that if you saw RAF Harlaxton in 1918, you usually saw RAF Swinderby also, as I'm sure your grandfather must have.
Harlaxton and Swinderby were closed after the First World War but re-opened in 1939 when Round Two began. I did my own training at Swinderby after the second war and about the same time, RAF Harlaxton was closed down, except for a nuclear bunker that remained until the 1990s.
You may be interested to know that some of the barrack room scenes in the film Full Metal Jacket (about US Marines) were in fact filmed at RAF Swinderby. If you ever see it, you might get a glimpse of your grandfather's sleeping quarters!
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Hi dahoglund,
Good thing that your sister had an interest in family history and accomplished what she did. The Internet certainly makes things easier! Remember the Dewey Decimal System and encyclopedias? That was my era when in school. Pretty well dates us, doesn't it. Ha!
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Hi Truckstop Sally,
That is true. Years ago I cleaned out a drawer of letters that I had saved over the years from many different people. Looking back...wish I had kept them! They were letters from both of my brothers who were writing from Viet Nam; letters from my grandmother, etc. Now all of these people are gone and it would have been a nice link to the past. So much for trying to be neat and tidy!
Thanks for your comment on this old letter from WW1 war buddy to my grandfather.
Peggy W
In my family I am the junior member. My sister who did a family history and put much work into it is eight years older than me.Most of the cousins are in her age group and the aunts and uncles are passed away. I have difficulty finding out anything within the immediate family.She did a lot of work on it but it was the "old-fashioned"way without the help of internet resources.
What a wonderful connection to your Grandfather. I wish people still wrote letters. Thanks for sharing.
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Hi Simone,
Nice that this hub about that old letter post WW1 could transport you back in time. Who needs science fiction time machines? Haha! Thanks for your comment.
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Hi again dahoglund,
Wouldn't it be wonderful to discover more old letters from your family! You did a marvelous telling of Marie's journey with facts and suppostion making the story. Hope more people read those hubs of yours.
Did you get any oral history from your family members? The telling of oral histories can be equally interesting.
Wow, what an amazing journey you have shared! Great Hub! Wowowow- between the historical artifact, images, and video, I feel quite immersed in another time and place.
Peggy
Thankks for the compliment.I'm sure there qre letters out there but unfortunately I do not know many members of the family nor do I liave near many of them who may be still living.
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Hi Becky,
Glad that you enjoyed this old letter from a WW1 war buddy written from Frisco, Texas back in 1921. I found the formality of how it was written interesting as well as the contents. Thanks for your comment and votes.
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Hi Cheryl,
I'm sorry that I never got to know my paternal grandfather except through stories. These old letters from Mr. Rogers who lived in Frisco, Texas after WW1 gave me an idea of their friendship that they had forged during the time they were involved in flying those early airplanes. I know that besides readying the planes for flight, my grandfather did some aerial photography which was some of the important work done during the first world war. They would be able to relay information to the ground troops as to what was being spotted from the air. Thanks for your comment.
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Hello Georgiakevin,
Yes I am certain that Mr. Rogers and my grandfather were both honorable men. Obviously the bond they formed during WW1 was a strong one. My grandfather's early death is probably what ended that friendship. I was happy to find these 2 letters after all these many years. As to writing fiction...not sure about that but thanks for the encouragement. :-)
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Hi again dahoglund,
Aha! That was an interesting story! I thought that perhaps these were some new letters that were discovered. You did a good job with that "Marie" series.
Thank you for sharing your grandfather's old letter from a WW1 Buddy. It was very interesting. Love the pictures too. Voted up and awesome.
Peggy,
You have written a wonderful and memorable hub on Old Letter from War Buddy. This is great to know that Mr. Rogers and your grandfather were survivors of World War 1 and that their friendship lasted for many years. I am happy that the documents are preserved for history. Great photos and videos. Great hub.
What an interesting hub. It strikes me that your grandfather and his friend must have bewen good honorable me. it is too bad you couldn't find other letters but this does leave open an opportunity for you to create letters that they might have written to each other.
Peggy W
I guess I didn't relate this clearly. The letters I was referring to were the letters on which I based the series of hubs about "Marie' which you read and gave me useful comments on.
Family histories are full of stories.
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Hi dahoglund,
After being contacted by a lady who read my first hub with the other 1920 old letter from the same WW1 war buddy in Frisco, she put me in touch with the Frisco Heritage Society which has a museum. They now have both of the letters, the picture of the bi-plane and a copy of a picture of the 50th aero squadron from that time. Mr. Rogers who wrote both of these letters to my grandfather is undoubtedly in the photo although I have no idea which one he is in the photo. So these letters (documents) are now preserved for history.
My grandmother had donated my grandfather's WW1 uniform to a museum years ago, so if she were alive, I think that she would have approved.
Your family letters sound interesting. Are you going to write about any of them?
Thanks for your comment and votes.
Today's interest in genealogy is probably helping preserve documents that might be lost otherwise.My sister came upon letters from my great aunt because she wanted to do a family history.I would not know about them otherwise and the grabbed my interest more than hers.
Social history is a fairly new specialty but these kinds of documents contribute a lot.
I voted this up and sent to facebook.
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