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My von Meyer family name and Coat of Arms
Starting with the ennoblement of a Meyer
When I first started this story it was my intention to research the Coat of Arms ~ Crest and Peerage, how and who earned it. I was always told that the Coat of Arms was for my g.g.grandfather Johann Meyer for his philanthropy. I noticed he didn't use a title or the von in front of his last name and wondered why.
I started researching about my grandfather Ludwig Adolph von Meyer who had a von in front of his last name...my dad also was a von Meyer. Most everyone that tried to help me said, there was no registration information. That was disproved when I found the information.
Then unexpectedly, I received some information from a German contact that had read this story...I was sent additional information and discovered some valuable and interesting answers through this person. This included my related research of the famed Vogue photographer Adolph de Meyer, as well the Dietel Garden and Villa in Oberliederbach Germany, built and owned by Adele von Dietel.
I have to say, what a pleasant surprise to receive this information from a reader.
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This Coat of Arms is one of the items in an old suitcase that I inherited...I have not found any registration, but then not all were registered. My curiosity about the framed original painting of our ~ Family Coat of Arms ~ became a virtual mystery. At one time my mother told me the meaning behind the images. However I have long forgotten, but I still wanted to know what the colors and images meant, and what did the motto mean? My searched on the Internet luckily brought me this information.
While mom told me the coat of arms was originated for my g.g.grandfather Johann Meyer, she was partly right as I found that the ennoblement and title "Baron" the "von" in front of Meyer was the result of his Philanthropy. The title had been conferred upon my grandfather Ludwig Adolph von Meyer and Adolph de Meyer ~ Watson (better known as Adolph de Meyer the Vogue photographer) These two were half brothers/cousins, their mother being my great grandmother Adele′ Watson who was married to two Meyer brothers. As far as the Coat of Arms I can't find any registration, but then not all were registered.
The 'von' (a small "v" meaning a title, can also mean 'from' meaning not a Nobel) the titles have been passed down to my sister and me as "Baroness." As far as using the title, it's the end of the line with my sister and me. I have two daughters and I believe the title is not transferable to them...but neither one of them have any interest.
I have not used my title since I got married and became a citizen of the United States...In the US everyone thinks you are Royalty, Aristocracy or Nobility just because you have a title, that's not true, each title is earned or either past on in families depending how it came about.
What I have written here is from my research, contributors and what I have been told or heard through my mother's conversations over the years. The items I've inherited including a hand written Genealogy chart are some things shown on this page. Since most records have been destroyed during the war, it's extremely hard to find information on my family...
I know who I am as a person, but wish to know more of who I am through the blood-lines of my parents.
Update: Peerage Recorded
Although I had seen portions of this in many books, none had enough showing for the total information...This was found in 1910 book: It informs us that Ludwig Adolph Meyer and his cousin/half brother to Adolph Meyer ~ Watson received their titles at the same time in 1897 through the name of Johann Meyer and all that he did for the city of Dresden with his Philanthropy...so my guess was right! My grandfather used the "von" and his nephew used mostly "de" maybe because he was born in Paris, and occasionally used "von" with a variation of last names.
Explanation for above relations of Meyer - Adele married two Meyer brothers
USAGE of my Coat of Arms!
This notice is for those that have inquired about my Coat of Arms on this page.
The original painted image for von Meyer can not be used, saved, copied or transferred to any other individual...a copyright restriction applies and it is illegal to use this image for the purpose of reproducing, and the making of Heraldry, Family Coat of Arms & Crests, Armorial, insignia rings/items for profit and other purposes including personal.
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Coat of Arms & Crests belong to individuals, NOT surnames
interesting reading at fleurdelis...
Coats of Arms and Crests Belong to Individuals, not Surnames.
Coats of arms are not awarded to a family or a name, but to an individual. That's why there's no coat of arms or family crest for the family name "Hardin" -- only a coat of arms and crest granted to someone with that name many years ago...and that's the reason why there's often more than one coat of arms associated with a given surname. Check out the various Hardin arms from different countries and regions. In England, direct descent is required for any heir to have the legal right to bear his ancestor's coat of arms.
Narrowing the search by geographic region of origin, you'll find there also may be more than one coat of arms awarded to several people in ancient Germany. Further complicating the issue is that the authoritative source information for most coats of arms only lists a city and/or county or origin, and sometimes only a country.
That is why, unless you can trace your family history to one individual, and unless the sources list that individual, the best that you can hope for is to find a coat of arms that is the oldest for a given name from a given region or the one most frequently used. Coats of arms usually started out fairly simple in design, then subsequent generations added onto or made slight variations to the design to make it their own. Marriages often resulted in a combination of two different family lines' coats of arms.
Motto on Banner
Dum Spiro Spero
The Motto inscribed beneath the shield, a Banner:
Dum Spiro Spero
While I live, I hope; or, While there's life, there's hope.
Hope while you live, for who would care to cope
With life's three foes, unpanoplied with hope?
Hope against hope, while fed with vital breath.
Hope be your anchor in the hour of death
Whilst I breathe my hope is in the cross
Informative links for this motto ~
- Dum spiro spero - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dum spiro spero meanings
- Dum spiro spero -
- Family Crest Motto
Need information on a family crest motto?
MEANINGS of the colors and emblems on our Coat of Arms
Everything has a Meaning for a Purpose
*Gold (Or) Generosity and elevation of the mind
*Silver or White (Argent) Peace and sincerity
*Blue (Azure) Truth and loyalty
*Green (Vert) Hope, joy, and loyalty in love
*Olive Branch or Leaves Peace and concordance Plant Hope and joy
*The star, celestial, noble person
*The helm or helmet is used to indicate the rank of the bearer of the arms from the gold full-faced helm of royalty to the steel helmet with closed visor of a gentleman.
Originally intended to shield the knight from the heat of the sun and to ward off rain, the mantle was a piece of cloth placed over the helmet, draping down the back to the base of the helm. The mantle, contoise, or lambrequin is often embellished on the artistic Coat of Arms to give prominence to the arms and crest, and is usually presented as ribbons over the helm.
The wreath is a twisted silken scarf used to cover the joint where the crest is attached to the helmet. Modern heraldry depicts the wreath as if two colored scarves had been braided together, the colors showing alternately. These colors are the same as the first named metal and the first named color in the blazon, and are known as "the colors."
Not officially granted with a coat of arms, motto's are a phrase which incorporates the basic philosophy of the family or an ancient war cry. They may or may not be present on an individual coat of arms, and are normally placed below the shield or occasionally above the crest.
I found my Meyer/von Meyer family-grave sites ~
Johann's last name spelled Mayer - Mistake?
Some answers to the "von"
When we visited Dresden I found out from the Museum where the Trinitatisfriedhof (Cemetery) was located. We took a bus there and a nice lady took us to the area that the Meyer family grave site was. I took photos, but never noticed the discrepancy until just recently when things just didn't mesh with my g.g.grandfathers' Johann Meyer name. You must understand that the name Meyer is as popular as Smith is here in the states. So you can see that this research has been frustrating especially finding more mistakes.
I happen to find a photo on Flicker that showed the same grave site that I took a photo of, and that's when I noticed the last name was wrongly spelled Mayer, however the years were correct. Then I received mail from the Cemetery, they said that no one knew why the last names were misspelled. Johann Meyer had a daughter named Auguste, she married a Müller. Johann's wife's' name was Auguste Dorothea 'Fehst' and she also is buried at this grave site, but I did not see her grave there and completely forgot to ask...I guess I was too excited seeing all this.
Then thinking, how does one find corrections for all this? Well, the mystery just got deeper....I was told that this is indeed Johann Meyers' headstone. From what I understand the city of Dresden replaced the war torn headstone, but not the original which might have had a Bust of him on top. My grandfather and great grandfather are right next to him, as seen in the photograph.
Now I have the answers for some of these inconsistencies, but there are still some unanswered things plaguing me...I'll carry on as long as I can and hope someday to fulfill my dream of answers.
Family grave sites
Meyer and von Meyer -
Now that the mystery of the Meyer ~ von Meyer names has been shown recorded, it only made sense, including the why, how and when.
I'm hoping to find where my Uncle Eugen v. Meyer (dad's brother) died and where he's buried. I believe he died between 1960-1965.
Ludwig Adolf von Meyer - photos all rights reserved Delia Pacheco (C)
a list of names on my Meyer side
* von Meyer
* von Fehst
* von Dietel
* von Pistohlkors
* von Manteuffel
* von Chaboulon
* Fits Gurld (Fitzgerald?)
Your Genealogy and Family Tree Guide
Georgianna von Meyer (Ives) photos - all rights reserved Delia Pacheco (C)
a list of names on my Ives side
* Captain J. Cone (Cane?)
* William Ives (line from England)
Baron - Baroness Crown -
Seven Point Crown
The ennoblement included a 7 point crown logo signifying the title Baroness/Baron.
My grandmother passed on her Baroness crown brooch to my mother. The brooch was about 2 inches wide, platinum with seven 3/4 diamonds each and a small safety chain for protection of loss. Sadly this brooch and some rings were stolen from mom in San Francisco many years ago.
reference from Wikipedia
Ahnentafel (genealogy chart) of my fathers family - front page
Ahnentafel (genealogy chart) - page two
January 1937 article - He had been dead for 50 years ~ one who did good and to be remembered
Newspaper Title reads: 50 Years he's been dead, the "Russian Meyer"
January 1937 newpaper article
A newspaper article written January 7,1937
Title reads: 50 Years he's been dead, the "Russian Meyer"
Written about Johann Meyer, detailing his journey and Russian involvement with Industries that gave him the name Salt and Cotton Mogul and Grosskaufmann (great merchant) The rest of the story honoring him for all he had done for the city of Dresden Germany, where he was an Honorary citizen and a street named after him (Johann-Meyer Strasse)
A note: My researcher has found Johann Meyerś middle names indeed were different, as shown in the strikeout in the 1937 article. That's a story in itself with lots of new information.
I've also noticed in research, mentioning Johann Meyer as a Banker. I'm not sure where this comes from, as there are many Johann Meyer's during that time period. Maybe that's why my father went to a Banking School in London...so there might be something to it.
January 20, 1994 Sachsische Zeitung article - recently found another article in the online SZ Sachsische Zeitung written Jan. 6, 2006
Thank You Stadtwiki! - NEWLY DISCOVERED INFORMATION!
Welcome to Stadtwiki Dresden ~ Willkommen im Stadtwiki Dresden
I came upon this webpage Stadtwiki Dresden featuring Johann Meyer. The addition to that site was done Sept. 2012. I was happy to have found some answers to questions I had...Interestingly enough they used my webpage for some of their information, but most likely it came from the other references they have.
The page can be translated by copying/pasting the Link URL into Google and then use the translator...although a few of the words are translated wrong (example Johann Meyer was not a reindeer ;-) however it's very informative and helpful to me.
Letter from STADTMUSEUM (State Museum)
recordings of his Philanthropy timetable and amounts.
Unfortunately this letter is in German, for those that can read German you might be able to understand it. It basically starts with 1863 with 1200 Mark and went total 575,200 Marks, which in those days was a great deal of money...With his philanthropy Johann Meyer was given the title of Honored Citizen of Dresden.
Also stating in the letter that in October 1991 and January 1994 the newspapers had articles commemorating his Philanthropy. The first Newspaper article was written in 1933, I can't find the ones written earlier in my research, most likely they where destroyed from the Fire Bombing of Dresden 1945.
Page 1 explaining his donations and reasons
2nd page more Philanthropy records
A wood-cutting by the famed Hugo Burkner in Dresden Museum
Johann Meyer 1800-1887
In 2006 we visited Dresden, and the Stadt Museum invited us to view a "Wood Cutting" of the image of Johann Meyer by famed Hugo Bürkner (1818–1897) The visit to the Museum was very interesting, they took us to a vault and gave us white gloves to wear so that we might handle the books. It is by pure luck that these items from the Museum survived through the Anglo-American firebombing of Dresden in 1945. My father and my aunt where caught in the midst of the bombing, I heard some very terrible stories about that night.
We visited many places in Dresden and it's nice to see that the city is being rebuilt. I still have a hard time understanding why of all the cities in Germany, they chose to destroy this most beautiful cultured city, with over 250,000 innocent children, women, old people and prisoners of war dying that night.
Allgemeiner Bildniskatalog by Hans W. Singer - presented to us in the Museum for viewing
Inside the book with the listing of the woodcuting of Johann Meyer
Take notice how many Meyer's in Dresden are shown here, and that's just a few! To boot, in Germany there are thousands of the name Johann Meyer...the research is very frustrating and most likely never be finished by me.
Villa Meyer - designed by Georg Hermann Nicolai 1876
While in Dresden I wanted to see where his Villa Meyer once stood, I knew it had been firebombed, and the rest was finally torn down around 1954, once standing on Beuststrasse 1/Parkstrasse.
When I saw the Villa Meyer listed on the Nicolai's Wikipedia, I knew there had to be more information available.
Can you imagine how pleasantly surprised I was to find images of the Villa on Wikipedia! I had just mentioned that I wished I had images of this Villa after seeing it listed on Georg Nicolai data.
Unfortunately this house on Beuststrasse 1/Parkstrasse Dresden was destroyed in 1945 from the firebombing and then completely torn down.
Villa Meyer drawing
Villa sketch 1952 - before tearing down
Original drawing by Russian Architect Harald Julius von Bosse
From Another Architect Book - a Plate of the Floor Plan
My first visit 2006 Dresden - the Bridge going over to the Frauenkirsche (church) in the background
Apartments and housing built by Johann Meyer for workers in the earlier yearsClick thumbnail to view full-size
A Commemoration Plaque
and a Street Name
The Museum director gave us directions to see the Street that was named after Johann Meyer the "Johann-Meyer-Strasse"... as you can see there is Graffiti on the street plaque sign, you can't get away from it...what a shame!
Not only did he build one building but others on that street. His first building was to accommodate the poor working people at the Factories. He also built Schools, Hospitals and helped Churches, setting up trusts that to this day are still in affect. These are just some of the things he did to warrant his ennoblement, and for one year he was the Honorary Citizen of that beautiful city Dresden.
Johann Meyer's heartfelt concern for those that worked so hard in the city factories living in deplorable disease ridden conditions was without notice, and the fact he gave a huge amount of money to the poor to be distributed amongst them, makes me exceedingly proud of him...how lucky I am and that his blood flows through my veins...
About Johann Meyer - Short History about his accomplishments and philanthropy written in German, sent to me by the Museum Director
The American Journal of Sociology - page
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A diagram of a Coat of Arms
Image credit fleurdelis.com
listed description above diagram::
1. left side: part of an official coat of arms
2. right side: items not specified in any particular coat of arms
President Barack Obama's acceptance Speech
Nov 4, 2008 he quoted,
"that while we breathe, we hope!" Dum Spiro, Spero
What you are is God's gift to you, what you do with yourself is your gift to God: Danish Proverb
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