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My von Meyer family name and Coat of Arms

Updated on March 22, 2017
von Meyer ... this image may not be used or copied - all rights reserved (C)
von Meyer ... this image may not be used or copied - all rights reserved (C)

Starting with the ennoblement of a Meyer

When I first started this story it was my intention to research the Coat of Arms ~ Crest and Peerage, how and who earned it. I was always told that the Coat of Arms was for my g.g.grandfather Johann Meyer for his philanthropy. I noticed he didn't use a title or the von in front of his last name and wondered why.

I started researching about my grandfather Ludwig Adolph von Meyer who had a von in front of his last name...my dad also was a von Meyer. Most everyone that tried to help me said, there was no registration information. That was disproved when I found the information.

Then unexpectedly, I received some information from a German contact that had read this story...I was sent additional information and discovered some valuable and interesting answers through this person. This included my related research of the famed Vogue photographer Adolph de Meyer, as well the Dietel Garden and Villa in Oberliederbach Germany, built and owned by Adele von Dietel.

I have to say, what a pleasant surprise to receive this information from a reader.


Note ~ Scraper Protection: This is a personal story and photos, all rights reserved. If you see this webpage anywhere else on the Internet besides here...PLEASE contact me...Thank You ~ Delia Pacheco (C)

This Coat of Arms is one of the items in an old suitcase that I inherited...I have not found any registration, but then not all were registered. My curiosity about the framed original painting of our ~ Family Coat of Arms ~ became a virtual mystery. At one time my mother told me the meaning behind the images. However I have long forgotten, but I still wanted to know what the colors and images meant, and what did the motto mean? My searched on the Internet luckily brought me this information.

While mom told me the coat of arms was originated for my g.g.grandfather Johann Meyer, she was partly right as I found that the ennoblement and title "Baron" the "von" in front of Meyer was the result of his Philanthropy. The title had been conferred upon my grandfather Ludwig Adolph von Meyer and Adolph de Meyer ~ Watson (better known as Adolph de Meyer the Vogue photographer) These two were half brothers/cousins, their mother being my great grandmother Adele′ Watson who was married to two Meyer brothers. As far as the Coat of Arms I can't find any registration, but then not all were registered.

The 'von' (a small "v" meaning a title, can also mean 'from' meaning not a Nobel) the titles have been passed down to my sister and me as "Baroness." As far as using the title, it's the end of the line with my sister and me. I have two daughters and I believe the title is not transferable to them...but neither one of them have any interest.

I have not used my title since I got married and became a citizen of the United States...In the US everyone thinks you are Royalty, Aristocracy or Nobility just because you have a title, that's not true, each title is earned or either past on in families depending how it came about.

What I have written here is from my research, contributors and what I have been told or heard through my mother's conversations over the years. The items I've inherited including a hand written Genealogy chart are some things shown on this page. Since most records have been destroyed during the war, it's extremely hard to find information on my family...

I know who I am as a person, but wish to know more of who I am through the blood-lines of my parents.

Update: Peerage Recorded

Although I had seen portions of this in many books, none had enough showing for the total information...This was found in 1910 book: It informs us that Ludwig Adolph Meyer and his cousin/half brother to Adolph Meyer ~ Watson received their titles at the same time in 1897 through the name of Johann Meyer and all that he did for the city of Dresden with his Philanthropy...so my guess was right! My grandfather used the "von" and his nephew used mostly "de" maybe because he was born in Paris, and occasionally used "von" with a variation of last names.

Explanation for above relations of Meyer - Adele married two Meyer brothers

Personal chart for story (C)
Personal chart for story (C) | Source
von Meyer (C)
von Meyer (C) | Source

USAGE of my Coat of Arms!

This notice is for those that have inquired about my Coat of Arms on this page.

The original painted image for von Meyer can not be used, saved, copied or transferred to any other individual...a copyright restriction applies and it is illegal to use this image for the purpose of reproducing, and the making of Heraldry, Family Coat of Arms & Crests, Armorial, insignia rings/items for profit and other purposes including personal.

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Coat of Arms & Crests belong to individuals, NOT surnames

interesting reading at fleurdelis...

Coats of Arms and Crests Belong to Individuals, not Surnames.

Coats of arms are not awarded to a family or a name, but to an individual. That's why there's no coat of arms or family crest for the family name "Hardin" -- only a coat of arms and crest granted to someone with that name many years ago...and that's the reason why there's often more than one coat of arms associated with a given surname. Check out the various Hardin arms from different countries and regions. In England, direct descent is required for any heir to have the legal right to bear his ancestor's coat of arms.

Narrowing the search by geographic region of origin, you'll find there also may be more than one coat of arms awarded to several people in ancient Germany. Further complicating the issue is that the authoritative source information for most coats of arms only lists a city and/or county or origin, and sometimes only a country.

That is why, unless you can trace your family history to one individual, and unless the sources list that individual, the best that you can hope for is to find a coat of arms that is the oldest for a given name from a given region or the one most frequently used. Coats of arms usually started out fairly simple in design, then subsequent generations added onto or made slight variations to the design to make it their own. Marriages often resulted in a combination of two different family lines' coats of arms.

reference fleurdelis

Motto on Banner

Banner (C)
Banner (C) | Source

Dum Spiro Spero

The Motto inscribed beneath the shield, a Banner:

Dum Spiro Spero

While I live, I hope; or, While there's life, there's hope.
Hope while you live, for who would care to cope
With life's three foes, unpanoplied with hope?
Hope against hope, while fed with vital breath.
Hope be your anchor in the hour of death
E.C.B.

Whilst I breathe my hope is in the cross

MEANINGS of the colors and emblems on our Coat of Arms

Everything has a Meaning for a Purpose

*Gold (Or) Generosity and elevation of the mind

*Silver or White (Argent) Peace and sincerity

*Blue (Azure) Truth and loyalty

*Green (Vert) Hope, joy, and loyalty in love

*Olive Branch or Leaves Peace and concordance Plant Hope and joy

*The star, celestial, noble person

*The helm or helmet is used to indicate the rank of the bearer of the arms from the gold full-faced helm of royalty to the steel helmet with closed visor of a gentleman.

*The mantle

Originally intended to shield the knight from the heat of the sun and to ward off rain, the mantle was a piece of cloth placed over the helmet, draping down the back to the base of the helm. The mantle, contoise, or lambrequin is often embellished on the artistic Coat of Arms to give prominence to the arms and crest, and is usually presented as ribbons over the helm.

*The wreath

The wreath is a twisted silken scarf used to cover the joint where the crest is attached to the helmet. Modern heraldry depicts the wreath as if two colored scarves had been braided together, the colors showing alternately. These colors are the same as the first named metal and the first named color in the blazon, and are known as "the colors."

*The motto

Not officially granted with a coat of arms, motto's are a phrase which incorporates the basic philosophy of the family or an ancient war cry. They may or may not be present on an individual coat of arms, and are normally placed below the shield or occasionally above the crest.

I found my Meyer/von Meyer family-grave sites ~

Family Meyer/von Meyer grave site...Trinitatis Cemetery Dresden (C)
Family Meyer/von Meyer grave site...Trinitatis Cemetery Dresden (C) | Source

Johann's last name spelled Mayer - Mistake?

Johann Meyer grave stone (C)
Johann Meyer grave stone (C) | Source

Some answers to the "von"

When we visited Dresden I found out from the Museum where the Trinitatisfriedhof (Cemetery) was located. We took a bus there and a nice lady took us to the area that the Meyer family grave site was. I took photos, but never noticed the discrepancy until just recently when things just didn't mesh with my g.g.grandfathers' Johann Meyer name. You must understand that the name Meyer is as popular as Smith is here in the states. So you can see that this research has been frustrating especially finding more mistakes.

I happen to find a photo on Flicker that showed the same grave site that I took a photo of, and that's when I noticed the last name was wrongly spelled Mayer, however the years were correct. Then I received mail from the Cemetery, they said that no one knew why the last names were misspelled. Johann Meyer had a daughter named Auguste, she married a Müller. Johann's wife's' name was Auguste Dorothea 'Fehst' and she also is buried at this grave site, but I did not see her grave there and completely forgot to ask...I guess I was too excited seeing all this.

Then thinking, how does one find corrections for all this? Well, the mystery just got deeper....I was told that this is indeed Johann Meyers' headstone. From what I understand the city of Dresden replaced the war torn headstone, but not the original which might have had a Bust of him on top. My grandfather and great grandfather are right next to him, as seen in the photograph.

Now I have the answers for some of these inconsistencies, but there are still some unanswered things plaguing me...I'll carry on as long as I can and hope someday to fulfill my dream of answers.

Family grave sites

Personal property photos -all rights reserved Delia Pacheco (C)
Personal property photos -all rights reserved Delia Pacheco (C) | Source

Meyer and von Meyer -

Now that the mystery of the Meyer ~ von Meyer names has been shown recorded, it only made sense, including the why, how and when.

I'm hoping to find where my Uncle Eugen v. Meyer (dad's brother) died and where he's buried. I believe he died between 1960-1965.

Ludwig Adolph von Meyer my grandfather (C)
Ludwig Adolph von Meyer my grandfather (C) | Source

Ludwig Adolf von Meyer - photos all rights reserved Delia Pacheco (C)

my grandfather

a list of names on my Meyer side

* von Meyer

* Meyer

* Fehst

* von Fehst

* Feest

* Streit

* Watson

* Toal

* Müller

* Hannisch

* von Dietel

* von Pistohlkors

* von Manteuffel

* von Chaboulon

* Fits Gurld (Fitzgerald?)

* Faller

* Capelli

* Huttebien

* Ruchet

* Hartmann

Georgianna von Meyer (Ives)
Georgianna von Meyer (Ives) | Source

Georgianna von Meyer (Ives) photos - all rights reserved Delia Pacheco (C)

my grandmother

a list of names on my Ives side

* Thrall

* Bissell

* Upson

* Grannis

* Thorp

* Shailer

* Fitch

* Welch

* Whitmore

* Roberts

* Captain J. Cone (Cane?)

* Loomis

* William Ives (line from England)

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Baron - Baroness Crown -

Baroness-Baron  7 point crown
Baroness-Baron 7 point crown

Seven Point Crown

The ennoblement included a 7 point crown logo signifying the title Baroness/Baron.

My grandmother passed on her Baroness crown brooch to my mother. The brooch was about 2 inches wide, platinum with seven 3/4 diamonds each and a small safety chain for protection of loss. Sadly this brooch and some rings were stolen from mom in San Francisco many years ago.

reference from Wikipedia

Ahnentafel (genealogy chart) of my fathers family - front page

Meyer - Ives genealogy chart
Meyer - Ives genealogy chart | Source

Ahnentafel (genealogy chart) - page two

Source

January 1937 article - He had been dead for 50 years ~ one who did good and to be remembered

Johann Meyer  - Russische Meyer
Johann Meyer - Russische Meyer | Source

Newspaper Title reads: 50 Years he's been dead, the "Russian Meyer"

January 1937 newpaper article

A newspaper article written January 7,1937

Title reads: 50 Years he's been dead, the "Russian Meyer"

Written about Johann Meyer, detailing his journey and Russian involvement with Industries that gave him the name Salt and Cotton Mogul and Grosskaufmann (great merchant) The rest of the story honoring him for all he had done for the city of Dresden Germany, where he was an Honorary citizen and a street named after him (Johann-Meyer Strasse)

A note: My researcher has found Johann Meyerś middle names indeed were different, as shown in the strikeout in the 1937 article. That's a story in itself with lots of new information.

I've also noticed in research, mentioning Johann Meyer as a Banker. I'm not sure where this comes from, as there are many Johann Meyer's during that time period. Maybe that's why my father went to a Banking School in London...so there might be something to it.

January 20, 1994 Sachsische Zeitung article - recently found another article in the online SZ Sachsische Zeitung written Jan. 6, 2006

Johann-Meyer-Strasse
Johann-Meyer-Strasse | Source

Thank You Stadtwiki! - NEWLY DISCOVERED INFORMATION!

Stadtwiki Dresden
Stadtwiki Dresden

Welcome to Stadtwiki Dresden ~ Willkommen im Stadtwiki Dresden

I came upon this webpage Stadtwiki Dresden featuring Johann Meyer. The addition to that site was done Sept. 2012. I was happy to have found some answers to questions I had...Interestingly enough they used my webpage for some of their information, but most likely it came from the other references they have.

The page can be translated by copying/pasting the Link URL into Google and then use the translator...although a few of the words are translated wrong (example Johann Meyer was not a reindeer ;-) however it's very informative and helpful to me.

Letter from STADTMUSEUM (State Museum)

recordings of his Philanthropy timetable and amounts.

Unfortunately this letter is in German, for those that can read German you might be able to understand it. It basically starts with 1863 with 1200 Mark and went total 575,200 Marks, which in those days was a great deal of money...With his philanthropy Johann Meyer was given the title of Honored Citizen of Dresden.

Also stating in the letter that in October 1991 and January 1994 the newspapers had articles commemorating his Philanthropy. The first Newspaper article was written in 1933, I can't find the ones written earlier in my research, most likely they where destroyed from the Fire Bombing of Dresden 1945.

Page 1 explaining his donations and reasons

Page 1 explaining his donations and reasons
Page 1 explaining his donations and reasons | Source

2nd page more Philanthropy records

2nd page more Philanthropy records
2nd page more Philanthropy records | Source

A wood-cutting by the famed Hugo Burkner in Dresden Museum

A wood-cutting by the famed Hugo Burkner in Dresden Museum
A wood-cutting by the famed Hugo Burkner in Dresden Museum | Source

Johann Meyer 1800-1887

Philanthropist

In 2006 we visited Dresden, and the Stadt Museum invited us to view a "Wood Cutting" of the image of Johann Meyer by famed Hugo Bürkner (1818–1897) The visit to the Museum was very interesting, they took us to a vault and gave us white gloves to wear so that we might handle the books. It is by pure luck that these items from the Museum survived through the Anglo-American firebombing of Dresden in 1945. My father and my aunt where caught in the midst of the bombing, I heard some very terrible stories about that night.

We visited many places in Dresden and it's nice to see that the city is being rebuilt. I still have a hard time understanding why of all the cities in Germany, they chose to destroy this most beautiful cultured city, with over 250,000 innocent children, women, old people and prisoners of war dying that night.

Allgemeiner Bildniskatalog by Hans W. Singer - presented to us in the Museum for viewing

cover of book
cover of book | Source

Inside the book with the listing of the woodcuting of Johann Meyer

inside of book
inside of book | Source

Take notice how many Meyer's in Dresden are shown here, and that's just a few! To boot, in Germany there are thousands of the name Johann Meyer...the research is very frustrating and most likely never be finished by me.

Villa Meyer - designed by Georg Hermann Nicolai 1876

Villa Meyer
Villa Meyer

While in Dresden I wanted to see where his Villa Meyer once stood, I knew it had been firebombed, and the rest was finally torn down around 1954, once standing on Beuststrasse 1/Parkstrasse.

Originally designed by Russian Architect Harald Julius von Bosse with additional designs and built by the famed Georg Hermann Nicolai, but for some reason we never made it there, a big regret.

When I saw the Villa Meyer listed on the Nicolai's Wikipedia, I knew there had to be more information available.

Can you imagine how pleasantly surprised I was to find images of the Villa on Wikipedia! I had just mentioned that I wished I had images of this Villa after seeing it listed on Georg Nicolai data.

Unfortunately this house on Beuststrasse 1/Parkstrasse Dresden was destroyed in 1945 from the firebombing and then completely torn down.

Back portion

Villa Meyer front portion of house
Villa Meyer front portion of house

Villa Meyer drawing

Villa Meyer drawing
Villa Meyer drawing

Villa sketch 1952 - before tearing down

The drawing shows a wall built around the Villa before being torn down
The drawing shows a wall built around the Villa before being torn down | Source

Original drawing by Russian Architect Harald Julius von Bosse

Plan by Harald Julius von Bosse from St.Petersburg
Plan by Harald Julius von Bosse from St.Petersburg | Source

From Another Architect Book - a Plate of the Floor Plan

My first visit 2006 Dresden - the Bridge going over to the Frauenkirsche (church) in the background

Delia in Dresden
Delia in Dresden | Source

Apartments and housing built by Johann Meyer for workers in the earlier years

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Delia on Johann-Meyer Strasse DresdenAn apartment complex
Delia on Johann-Meyer Strasse Dresden
Delia on Johann-Meyer Strasse Dresden | Source
An apartment complex
An apartment complex
Johann Meyer Str...see how it looks now
Johann Meyer Str...see how it looks now | Source

A Commemoration Plaque

and a Street Name

The Museum director gave us directions to see the Street that was named after Johann Meyer the "Johann-Meyer-Strasse"... as you can see there is Graffiti on the street plaque sign, you can't get away from it...what a shame!

Not only did he build one building but others on that street. His first building was to accommodate the poor working people at the Factories. He also built Schools, Hospitals and helped Churches, setting up trusts that to this day are still in affect. These are just some of the things he did to warrant his ennoblement, and for one year he was the Honorary Citizen of that beautiful city Dresden.

Johann Meyer's heartfelt concern for those that worked so hard in the city factories living in deplorable disease ridden conditions was without notice, and the fact he gave a huge amount of money to the poor to be distributed amongst them, makes me exceedingly proud of him...how lucky I am and that his blood flows through my veins...

About Johann Meyer - Short History about his accomplishments and philanthropy written in German, sent to me by the Museum Director

Johann Meyer  Stifter
Johann Meyer Stifter

The American Journal of Sociology - page

The American Journal of Sociology
The American Journal of Sociology
Find your Noble Ancestors
Find your Noble Ancestors

A diagram of a Coat of Arms

Source

Image credit fleurdelis.com

listed description above diagram::

1. left side: part of an official coat of arms

2. right side: items not specified in any particular coat of arms

President Barack Obama's acceptance Speech

Nov 4, 2008 he quoted,

"that while we breathe, we hope!" Dum Spiro, Spero

Created 12/17/2007

What you are is God's gift to you, what you do with yourself is your gift to God: Danish Proverb

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      Tanya Jones 3 years ago from Texas USA

      One other thing, I was hoping to find the blazon for your coat of arms, but seem to have missed it. That's one thing that has always interested me. The blazon, for instance of Mirabel Atte Rose: Argent, a pall flory sable between three roses proper, a chief gules.

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      Tanya Jones 3 years ago from Texas USA

      I used to be a herald for the SCA so I got to learn a lot of heraldic information for the play of the game. I enjoyed reading your genealogy information. Great lens.

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      Paul Lenton 3 years ago from El Calafate, Argentina

      Anything on Heraldry and ancestry is highly interesting for me!

      I think I've got lots more to investigate on my ancestors. Thanks Delia von Meyer!

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      sierradawn lm 3 years ago

      What remarkable digging you have done on your quest!. And how fortunate you are to have such a family treasure! I have learned many things here on your informative lens. Thank you!

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      Rob Hemphill 3 years ago from Ireland

      Very interesting, you've done so much great research and that's what genealogy is all about. The older we get, the more we become fascinated about our heritage, which is exciting and daunting at the same time.

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      Doc_Holliday 3 years ago

      Fascinating lens. Looks like a fun task that you have undertaken.

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      anonymous 3 years ago

      i don't think my family has one, we are asians so we might not really have one.. i wish i have one.

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      Denise McGill 3 years ago from Fresno CA

      I loved reading this. It was very interesting. My grandmother told us for years that we were descended from German Bollingers but when I did some research I found that the original to come here was John Bollinger from German-speaking Switzerland. I'd love to know more about them but haven't done the research.

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      CrazyHomemaker 3 years ago

      This is another amazing lens! It's very interesting to see how you've researched your family. Good luck. Thanks for sharing.

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      anonymous 3 years ago

      Dear Delia,

      Fantastic research job! I will send this link to my friend Heike in Dresden.

      How kind and passionate your Grandfather was to help the workers!

      Thanks for the education and if we ever go back to Dresden we will look at his street.

      God bless you!

      Linda

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      Pat Goltz 3 years ago

      Your personal story, how you became an American citizen, and this story, are both fascinating. Thank you very much for writing. Now I just wonder if any of these illustrious people are in my family line anywhere. Perhaps my sister knows...

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      Melissa Miotke 3 years ago from Arizona

      I'm so fascinated with genealogy. It's getting easier these days with the internet. It's very cool that you have a family crest. I wish I could find something like that about my family.

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      Cynthia Haltom 3 years ago from Diamondhead

      You appear to have done quite a bit of research. I can appreciate the work you did. I once traced my family for a couple of generations and became frustrated as family word of mouth was just a story.

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      Char Milbrett 4 years ago from Minnesota

      I love genealogy! My [mother's side] grandfather's family had a crest and his family tree has many barons and nobles. They were from Gotland. When I was in high school, I signed up to write to a penpal and she was from Leipzig. [of course, lost touch...]

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      Wow, what a well put together lens. My father's side of the family has a crest. I never really thought of the origin, though now you have me wondering

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      My goodness, you've done your family great honor in compiling all this together. Heraldry always fascinates me as well! Another fantastic lens d-artist!

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      Family history is so interesting, even if it isn't your own family! Congrats on your Purple Star.

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      Wow -- you did a lot of research! Your family crest is lovely.

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      So interesting and your family crest is beautiful

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      Fascinating Lens, I thoroughly enjoyed reading it and will come back to see if you've uncovered any more research. It's interesting to read about how you found each piece of the jigsaw puzzle.

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      What a fascinating lens! I have done research on my husband's German family, and I can easily become so engrossed in my research that I forget everything else. Minutes, hours, and days fly by without my being aware of it. I'm trying to be more balanced, but it's a challenge! :)

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      What an amazing page! I love genealogy and am always surprised by what I uncover. I think this is just fascinating! Blessed.

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      I am researching my family tree and my great great Rudolf Von Meyer was a lieutenant in the Danish Virgin Island troops I am having a lot of trouble trying to find out links with the Von Meyer name.

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      Geneology is difficult to research, sometimes. I enjoyed reading your efforts. Blessings!

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      I find all your family history articles interesting. Your life and family history sound absolutely fascinating and I love delving into it. You are so very lucky to have such a wonderful history including a true family crest. Quite a while ago an article of yours involving a suitcase completely fascinated me...I think I will try to find that one again today too.

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      Brandi 5 years ago from Maryland

      This is fascinating! I love genealogy. How wonderful that you have been able to do so much research...and that it all stemmed from your curiosity about your family crest. And your title, "Baroness"...sounds so fancy! :) Thank you for sharing your family here...I very much enjoyed reading it! Blessed by a brand new SquidAngel!

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      nikyweber 5 years ago

      Amazing lens! squidlikes!

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      kathysart 5 years ago

      What an amazing lens! Loved it and felt you in it. Angel blessed.

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      traveller27 5 years ago

      Excellent job - blessed by a travelling angel.

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      Nancy Tate Hellams 5 years ago from Pendleton, SC

      Oh Wow, I certainly enjoyed reading about your Family History. so interesting.

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      TeacherSerenia 5 years ago

      This is a wonderfully detailed genealogy lens. This inspires me to do a lens about my own family tree as well. Blessed by a passing angel.

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      sheezie77 5 years ago

      Great lens! Keep up the good work!

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      oxfordian 5 years ago

      As usual, an inspiring story from a wonderful storyteller. Thank you for sharing your amazing work. Here's some Squid Angel dust .....

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      goo2eyes lm 5 years ago

      i squidliked your family crest lens in june 2011 already.

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      darciefrench lm 5 years ago

      What an interesting journey, thank-you for the introduction to your family. Very lovely page.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      This is a fascinating and an enchanting read you Highness! Much love and respect and it is a pleasure to have met you here! :)

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      MariaMontgomery 5 years ago from Central Florida, USA

      What an interesting lens. It's wonderful that you have so much info on your ancestors. I'm planning to begin researching my family soon, and your lens has encouraged me to get busy.

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      Moocha 5 years ago

      Very interesting, informative and enjoyable.

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      WayneDave LM 5 years ago

      Wow, that's a lot to take in! Really sweet and lovely lens, very enjoyable. Thanks for sharing this.

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      Mary Norton 5 years ago from Ontario, Canada

      Really interesting family history...one you certainly did much research. Great to see you right there in Dresden. I had been there with my husband and really loved the restoration.

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      RuralFrance 5 years ago

      What a fascinating history! Thanks for sharing it :)

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      My heart sank in learning your Baroness brooch had been taken, may it one day be returned to you by some set of circumstances. Wonderfully interesting, fascinating and beautifully done, a true treasure!

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      KimGiancaterino 5 years ago

      I was directed here by your Pola Negri lens. You've done a great job researching your family crest. It would be lovely as a needlepoint. I'm sorry your Baroness brooch was taken. Our former housekeeper just stole several jewelry items from our home, including wedding rings and a few other family treasures. Pretty sad!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      my family also has a crest, good to see your publishing it out there! If you like to browse lens like I do, mine has a great educational topic with poll questions for my readers to do.

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      brbrooks 5 years ago

      You have done a great job on this lens, I loved reading it!

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      Coreena Jolene 5 years ago

      What a wonderful job you have done of tracing your family. I have one side of my family that was from a Bernhagen Germany which is now part of Poland. I hope to travel someday to explore. I enjoyed all the details you have shared here.

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      LadyCharlie 5 years ago

      Very informative. I enjoyed reading your family history. Thanks for sharing!

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      Peggy Hazelwood 5 years ago from Desert Southwest, U.S.A.

      Very interesting!

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      grifith 5 years ago

      Liked. Great Lens

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      Anthony Godinho 5 years ago from Ontario, Canada

      Wow, what a beautiful crest and, what a well-presented and researched lens Baroness...blessed! :)

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      taliasmith23 5 years ago

      your crest is beautiful!

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      Lindrus 5 years ago

      Very interesting! Thanks for sharing this!

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      Lisa Auch 5 years ago from Scotland

      How amazing, and to think you own the original drawing of the crest too! i am currently trying to pice my famil history together, which is proving difficult, as my parents passed when we were quite young, and due to a huge family rift, FB is excellent for finding people thought ;)

      what a lot of work in this page, and deserves a Blessing too!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      I love heraldry. It's interesting that my family is a Sept of the Fraser Clan featured in the segment "A diagram of a Coat of Arms".

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      JackNimble 5 years ago

      Very cool. I didn't realize that crests were granted to individuals and not passed on through the family. I will have to do some more research and reading on this. Thanks for sparking my interest with your great lens.

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      pheonix76 5 years ago from WNY

      What an amazing story -- you have a fascinating family history!!! Thanks so much for sharing this with us, truly amazing. I love history and learning about one's family history is especially rewarding. Very well-organized and well-designed lens, two thumbs up!

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      goo2eyes lm 5 years ago

      I am from Austria and I understand fully what you have written. More power to you.

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      RinchenChodron 5 years ago

      Isn't researching family history fun and fascinating! Great job on this interesting lens. Congrats on a well-deserved purple star.

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      cdevries 5 years ago

      A fascinating Lens!

      I've done a little research and it seems that, because coat of arms are un-legislated in the U.S., it is legal for a family to create a new one for themselves if they wish. Though it would be against copyright and unethical to "borrow" an existing one, of course.

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      HorseAndPony LM 5 years ago

      Another wonderful lens. I loved reading about your family crest and history. What an interesting history. Thanks for sharing!

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      Barbara 5 years ago from USA

      I really enjoyed and learned a lot from this lens. Liked the special touch for Squid Angels.

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      olpampam 5 years ago

      Neat. I love how you got creative with your html.

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      Liz Mackay 5 years ago from United Kingdom

      What an interesting family you come from.

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      sushilkin lm 5 years ago

      cool lens. Thanks for sharing family crest

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      Virginia Allain 5 years ago from Central Florida

      A fascinating look at your distinguished ancestor and the family crest. Blessed by a squid angel and will be featured on You've Been Blessed lens.

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      moonlitta 6 years ago

      Family history is always so intriguing. I've often thought of making a page about mine (it's not that impressive as yours is, though!) but still haven't made it.

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      Great lens. Cool idea

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      chrispell017 6 years ago

      amazing lens!

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      elyria 6 years ago

      Amazing Lens! I enjoyed every minute of reading it. Simply wow!!

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      archangelptx 6 years ago

      Very interesting read... I'm inspired to do some research into my own ancestry, but it is difficult as my family is not from the states--but the Dominican Republic. I will surely be back to follow your lens again to see how I can further my own search. Cheers!

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      mrsm54321 6 years ago

      You should be very proud of your ancestor and his achievements because he appears to have been a really interesting person with a kind heart. It must give you are great sense of wonder to see some of the buildings he was responsible for building which are an important part of history.

      One of the things that annoys me about family history is the presumption that a family crest belongs to anyone who has the same surname. Family crests are for individual families and certainly shouldn't be used by just anyone!

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      Lee Hansen 6 years ago from Vermont

      What a fascinating story - not only about the crest and restrictions on its use, but also your journey to find your ancestor who was famous and revered for his contributions to his homeland. Gesundheit!

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      jvsper63 6 years ago

      Wonderful information you have there. Its great to have information on ancestry. Another very interesting lens. Good job!! Joni

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      MarkFashionista 6 years ago

      Amazing lens... thanks for sharing it!

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      Petula40 6 years ago

      This is very interesting and amazing. Thanks for sharing this... fascinating.

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      JoshK47 6 years ago

      I love discovering family history and especially things like family crests. Awesome lens!

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      Debbie 6 years ago from England

      Isn't family history intriguing and so informative? Great lens... wonder why it hasn't had LOTD? Lensrolled to Family Heirlooms :)

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      Tony Payne 6 years ago from Southampton, UK

      Excellent lens. You have a wonderful family history. Lensrolled and featured on my 100 Years Ago lens, and also a Blessing coming your way.

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      VarietyWriter2 6 years ago

      Blessed by a SquidAngel :)

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      myneverboredhands 6 years ago

      Congrats on finding that picture of Villa, you're looking for... Great lens, interesting and very informative... Thanks for sharing.

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      Mona 6 years ago from Iowa

      Really wonderful. It's amazing you have the original drawing of the crest. So often those things get lost.

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      justholidays 6 years ago

      I'm happy to learn that you finally found the photo of the villa you were always looking for! Congrats on this fantastic find! Hoping for you to find more info and pics, Madame la Baronne ;)

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      jolou 6 years ago

      What a great topic and lens. How wonderful to have all those momentoes.

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      ChrisDay LM 6 years ago

      What a wonderful new find - you must be delighted.

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      Char Milbrett 6 years ago from Minnesota

      Interesting. i had to check and see if the coat of Arms was like ours. My family was elevated in Gotland, Sweden back in the 1300's. Fegraeus. Part of the Stora Wanga lineage. There aren't a lot of generations between myself and them, since many of my grandfathers waited until older to have children. There is 100 years between myself and my grandfather. He was in his late sixties before my mother was born. She was almost 36 when I was born. Good to read your lens! Thanks.

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      beerhead 6 years ago

      Amazing lens very interesting and informative thanks.

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      julieannbrady 6 years ago

      Oh my, this is such a heartwarming and touching page -- I had done some research on the Nagy family crest a while back.

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      nice crest lens great thanks

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      davidcompass 6 years ago

      I found your lens on your family crest fascinating.I especially liked learning the meaning of Dum Spiro Spero.Great job! Did you try to find out if you had other options in terms of passing on your family crest?

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      sarita 6 years ago from Hisar

      Really cool it is...

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      ZablonMukuba 6 years ago

      this is very cool, i am also going to look into my great grand parents

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      Elizabeth Sheppard 6 years ago from Bowling Green, Kentucky

      What an interesting lens. How fun to have these mementos of your great-great grandfather and the photos. I am also interested in genealogy. I have done a little research so far. My mother was also interested in this subject. Thanks for putting this on Squidoo to see.

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      toriphile81 6 years ago

      How cool to be able to see such family history!

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      RebeccaE 6 years ago

      this si just an awesome lens, and wonderfully done and reasearched, great job. Many blessings to you.

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      frances lm 6 years ago

      I love your personal lenses. You are lucky to have an ancestor you can find out so much about.

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      I never knew the family crest and history could be so intriguing. Great job done on the research and information part.

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      LoKackl 6 years ago

      Amazing story. Squid Angel Blessed.

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      VarietyWriter2 6 years ago

      Blessed by a SquidAngel :)

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      Mayapearl 6 years ago

      Very interesting lens,one of my daughter's family crest also has a star with a tree branch. I have not researched it, my German is a little rusty. I have no doubt that she will dio this herself at some stage.

      Thumbs up,

      Maya

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      GuyB LM 6 years ago

      How cool is it to have a family crest? We just started doing some research and the whole family tree thing-it's very exciting. Thumbs up

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      Cheryl Kohan 6 years ago from Minnesota

      What in interesting lens! I enjoyed learning about coats of arms and I had no idea that a lowercase v in von indicates a title.

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      SummerQueen 7 years ago

      Great lens. Thanks for sharing the history of your family. 5* :)

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      squidoolover76 7 years ago

      Remarkable lens indeed, fascinated me

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      Delia 7 years ago

      @anonymous: Hi Lisa, unfortunately the name 'Meyer' in Germany is a like a 'Smith' here in the US...I suggest you look up free Genealogy sites and the LDS site that allow you to put in queries, and ask about your grandfather's name...Good Luck!

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      anonymous 7 years ago

      my name is lisa meyer and i would like to find out who im related to in germany? I live in honolulu , hawaii and my grandfather is arthur lee meyer, but i don't know who he was related to in germany? Your story was awesome!

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      norma-holt 7 years ago

      Returned to bless this lovely history lens of your family. Blessed and featured on Sprinkled with Stardust

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      VarietyWriter2 7 years ago

      Great lens. Blessed by a SquidAngel :)

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      Tracy_Smith 7 years ago

      This has me wondering if last name smith has a crest. Wonderful lens!

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      LadyFlashman 7 years ago from United Kingdom

      Fantastic Lens, you must be so proud of your heritage. Excellent links too, they will help me in my family history research thank you!

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      reasonablerobby 7 years ago

      A really informative lens! Prima I habe es sehr interessant gefunden. I notice in the German letter a reference to the seed capital being in 'Thalers' which I recently found out was the root of the word 'dollar' from the German miners who went to the US I believe. Genealogy is a great subject. I did a lens inspired by my family name about The Border Reivers in the UK a special group of clans on the English /Scottish border.

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      Leanne Chesser 7 years ago

      This is fascinating information about your family history and about the family crest. Blessed by an angel.

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      norma-holt 7 years ago

      What a great historical background you have. Very interesting to know it all and thanks for sharing. 5* and fave.

      Norma

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      Indigo Janson 7 years ago from UK

      Yet another wonderful lens on your family history. What treasures you have in your past! I hope you will consider writing your memoirs one day to capture your family's stories.

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      justholidays 7 years ago

      Hello Madam, I'm happy to have find this lens and would say how I enjoyed reading it! I'm fond of history and loved the coat of arms you feature here! It's a beautiful one!

      SquidAngel blessings for the baron von Meyer, hoping that wherever he would be, he's proud of you!

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      AlinaWarner 7 years ago

      Favorited and 5 ***** Loved this lens.

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      Sue Dixon 7 years ago from Grasmere, Cumbria, UK

      Great lens- you've really put your heart and soul into it- a wonderful family history to trace.

      5*

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      Ram Ramakrishnan 7 years ago

      Everything around has an interesting and illustrious history. It only needs an open mind and perseverance to trace it and for those who enjoy this exercise, nothing can be more satisfying. 5*

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      anonymous 7 years ago

      Beautiful lens. Thank-you. 5 stars*****

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      pkmcr 7 years ago from Cheshire UK

      Excellent lens and great to see others creating great Genealogy Lenses! 5 Stars :-)

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      anonymous 7 years ago

      Great lens. Thank-you. 5 stars***** and favorited. Happy new year!

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      anonymous 7 years ago

      Whoah, not only a raisin girl but a noble one. Fascinating. I did a lens on my Peppler family, nobody looks at it but my brothers.

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      luvmyludwig lm 7 years ago

      I'm sorry, I messed up with the link it is http://happysquidooanniversary.crabbysbeach.com/bl...

      have a wonderful day and happy squidversary

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      luvmyludwig lm 7 years ago

      this is great! wonderful job.

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      eccles1 7 years ago

      great idea to check out

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      kab 7 years ago from Upstate, NY

      Did you know that another team challenge was announced for the September 31 deadline? You are welcome to join us once again on the Squid Squad. We'd love to have you on our team!

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      x3xsolxdierx3x lm 8 years ago

      this lens inspires me to look into my family's crest even more......5 stars.....favorited....and i'm now in your fanclub :)

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      anonymous 8 years ago

      Fascinating information that is a must-read for anyone with an interest in family crests or family history in general. Thanks for providing this info!

      Stephanie at the Research Your Family Tree lens-stop by and see us!

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      Merlyn63 8 years ago

      Really well made lens and such an interesting story with lots of good information, has inspired me to look into this myself. Thanks.

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      anonymous 8 years ago

      This lens is beautifully laid out and very interesting.

      Family Crests

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      Snozzle 8 years ago

      I'm fascinated by the whole world of genealogy, crests and so on. Most enjoyable, informative lens.

      Mike.

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      InspiredWritingResearch 8 years ago

      Uh-oh, yet another of my interests - genealogy! Fascinating, 5 stars!

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      Spook LM 8 years ago

      Thank you Baroness, I really enjoyed this lens.

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      Aice 8 years ago

      oh wow! amazing information about crest and stuff (^_^)

      thanks for visiting my lens

      i'm giving you 5 starts too

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      macroqueen 8 years ago

      Very cool...thanks for visiting my pages! I love genealogy too! *5

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      LeaYekutiel 8 years ago

      Hi Dalia,

      Thank you for such great comments about my lens.

      You are a great artist and your lens deserve 5*.

      I would like to know more about your experience

      with cancer, if you don't mind.

      Love,

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      Paul Hassing 8 years ago

      Fascinating! What a great lens topic; such a perfect medium for this content! Best regards, P. :)

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      mistyblue75605 lm 8 years ago

      How neat is that! I love digging into the past when it reveals something interesting! 5*'s!

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      Andy 8 years ago from London, England

      Very interesting. I've been researching my family tree recently, but it must be wonderful to have a family crest to research too.

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      TonyPer 8 years ago

      Interesting article 5*! I also love art and also have just started looking into my family tree (I have traced names going back to 1572, but now I need to flesh out the information I got. Also thanks for your kind comments about my cartoons. Love your family moto!

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      Lamar Ross 8 years ago from Florida

      Great job. I joined your fan club. I would love to have you join our Everything Genealogy and Family History group.

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      jpetals 8 years ago

      Your lens is great on so many different levels. As a lens, it is appealing to the eye (I have not yet played with changing font colour, etc) and as far as the information is concerned... outstanding! What an interesting history you have. Cheers!

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      Megal LM 8 years ago

      That crest is really cool! You are very fortunate to be able to track your family down for generations. I can track back to by great grandmother, but no one else.

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      hesika 8 years ago

      A very interesting lens. For me as a woman from Germany the acting of von Meyer in Dresden, of course, is especially interesting. You are the member of a great familiy with a great background and history. All my respect for you. - and 5*, naturally.

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      Jesi 8 years ago

      I can't read the whole article bcoz of sum time shortage, will be back and will read it completely, coz its really interesting history....

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      papawu 8 years ago

      Very interesting what your family crest represents. I never knew that the colors on a crest held meaning as well.I know very little about my family genealogy, but supposedly, my own family had royal blood within the line way back when and we also have an official seal rather than a crest.

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      Sandy Mertens 8 years ago from Frozen Tundra

      Great lens! It is so cool that you have original drawing of your family crest. Too bad we couldn't see a larger view of the 1933 article. 5* Thanks for visiting my German Shepherd lens!

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      Anthonyaa 8 years ago

      You are d-artist, and you are blessed and gifted. Great lens.

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      billco1 8 years ago

      Amazing history. 5 Stars!

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      Artguide 8 years ago

      I might have missed it..but was he related to the 19th C. Paleantologist? Peter

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      tdove 8 years ago

      Nice lens! Thanks for visiting my foot tattoos lens.

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      dahlia369 8 years ago

      Wonderful lens, I enjoyed it a lot - and lensrolling you right back on my "Coats of Arms from Slovenia" lens - we kind of have quite some history in common... :)

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      AlisonMeacham 8 years ago

      Another great lens!

      You have been Blessed by a Squid Angel

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      edah1308 8 years ago

      I really enjoyed this lens. I will be checking out more of your lenses in the future. I also wanted to thank you for your comment on my Finding Ephraim series. You made my day. You're invited to join my genealogy group Genealodocious. This lens is perfect Genealodocious material. I gave it a 5.

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      anonymous 8 years ago

      While I've been interested in Heraldry for a number of years, I find your lens extremely interesting and informative.

      Family Crests

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      ElizabethJeanAl 8 years ago

      Very informative lens. Family histories make for great reading.

      5 *

      Lizzy

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      ms-giggles 8 years ago

      Wonderful lens 5***** I really had know idea about Family Crest until I read your lens. Very informative. I wanted to thank you for signing my guess book, what you said meant a lot to me.

      God Bless Beth

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      LisaDH 8 years ago

      Great reading. I always thought a coat of arms was associated with a family name. That's for the education! 5*

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      MargoPArrowsmith 8 years ago

      I had one done as a gift to my parents years ago. I thought it was just a gimmick as they must be ancient to be 'real'.

      Well, thanks for this, now I know better.

      While you seem to know so much of your history, I would bet that there are also some legends. I would love for you to visit http://www.squidoo.com/familylegends.

      I have read a few of your lenses this morning, they are unique and I thank you.

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      driewe 9 years ago

      Your Grandfather sounds like a great man. My Great Grandfather came over from Prussia by himself when he was 14. Well actually, he had everything planned to come by himself and had already done the funding when his older brother (16) said he was going to go along to look out after him :-) It shocks me what our ancestors did and went up against. May God grant them all eternal memory. Oh, 5 stars too!

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      Arthur Russ 9 years ago from England

      5* and lens roll for a very informative lens. I note your interest in genealogy and history, you may be interested in visiting A Victorian Scrapbook by George Burgess which is packed with both.

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