Who Pays Right Wing Posters to Attack Barack Obama?
Danny....
Who's "your people with the handout"?
As for "those lying liberals"....anyone who cannot see that deceit lies at both ends of the political spectrum is either
1) Blind
2) Lying
or
3) an idiot
And for the nearly 10 years of war we have been "slogging" through...I guess it was those "liberals" that created the web of deceit that led us to Mesopotamia...right?
Oh wait....the "most liberal" member of the Senate was one of the few who voted against going to war with Iraq.... That darm Obama...always on the wrong side of history??
At least not in this case...Again you just spew BS! you still did not answer my question about Wright after you posted the links from youtube. I answered your questions but once again you have no answer to mine and you spew nonsense! again comprehension is key! if you look back I did State Bush caused the Iraq war not the Afgan war, that was justified. and your most liberal senator just started a war! what do you have to say about that??? Did he not just spend 100's of millions in cruise missiles? is he thinking of arming the rebels who happen to side with Iran and Alqeda? why the change? please do tell.
Actually, Danny, I have already begun answering that question...but it seems you have failed to read the post that I left behind... Check it out
I am not spewing...you are just projecting...
There is a difference..
"If you look back I did State Bush caused the Iraq war not the Afghan war"<--Danny
I don't know what you just said....can you please clarify your statement?
As for the "war" that has been unfolding in Libya...I do know that something had to be done..
As a descendent of Ottoman Armenians, it was the failed promises of the United States following World War One that led to the final deportation of Armenians from their native lands, and to the second genocide, that is commonly not mentioned in the media... Everyone points to 1915, but few realize what happened in 1920/21..
If only someone had intervened back then...
Danny, I made a comment concerning Lady's remark about lying...and you took it personally...
That is your problem...not mine..
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al...no "liberals" there...but the web of deceit they wove has driven our nation's wealth into a ditch, and has killed, wounded, and demoralized thousands of American men and women...
As I write this statement I think about the fellow Marine who I used to work with at my local community college... I was his classmate and tutor...and after 3 tours in Iraq...the last time I saw him, he was standing in the library with tears in his eyes... His first two deployments had been with active-duty troops....and he had come through okay.. His final deployment was with reservists...and he returned a broken man..
I don't know what happened to him... I hope he is okay..
This is the cost of the lies that "neo-conservatives" wove and played on those of us (like myself) who didn't know any better...
And, again..at least that "darn liberal" Obama had the guts and brains to call out Mr. Bush as a liar, and to stand by our need to not invade a country with no ties to Islamic terror...
Going back to Libya real quick....imagine if the bombing done under Reagan had killed Ghadafi....and think about the power vaccuum and unrest that would have followed... If you think Reagan would not have either put boots on the ground or done something similar to Obama then you are out of your mind...
If Obama was a white, conservative President he would be getting praised right now...and those "conservatives" would try to protect him from criticism, as they tried to do on behalf of dear old Bush...
Remember all the flak about the "threat that challenging the commander in chief would cause" in time of conflict?
How quickly such important information is forgotten...or intentionally ignored..
By the way, Danny...fiscal responsibility and Ronald Reagan are mutually exclusive things....I did not see your answer to my question after you posted your links to youtube and still do not.
As for the "war" that has been unfolding in Libya...I do know that something had to be done..
so it is ok for Obama but not bush? they were no threat to us so we are invading a country! no way around that. Obama said he would never invade a country if they were no threat to us for the wars GB started. but strangely it is OK now? Mike there are many other countries that are far worse than Libya how come he doesn't do something there? Syria is killing people everyday? Iran? Korea? why just pick them? And if you took off your goggles you would actually see many republicans are saying he is doing the right thing and many democrats are criticizing him! where are you getting your info? right away with the black stuff again, please he is 1/2 white if you have not heard. you seriously need to open your mind, you know what they say a mind is a terrible thing to waste.THIS IS A DEMOCRAT SAYING THIS!
Now that Obama has committed to military action in Libya, it will be interesting to see if Democrats and anti-war pundits line up to criticize him. Considering an interview today with Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), maybe, just maybe, it will happen.
Appearing on Fox News today, Kucinich opened up his interview by reading a quote from none other than Barack Obama, who back in the day criticized President Bush for military action in the Mideast:
“I’m gonna read this and then tell you who said it. ‘The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.’ Now that was Barack Obama who said that on December the 20, 2007. We’ve got to be very sure here that we follow the Constitution, and president Obama didn’t do that.”
Kucinich also had this nugget: the intervention we’ve already committed to will cost “half-a-billion dollars.”
“We cannot be the policemen of the world, as tragic as the situations are across the world, the United States cannot afford nor do we have the authority to go and intervene,” he added.
As Gateway Pundit reports via USA Today, back in 2007 Obama said preventing genocide is not enough to justify military action:
Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Thursday the United States cannot use its military to solve humanitarian problems and that preventing a potential genocide in Iraq isn’t a good enough reason to keep U.S. forces there.
“Well, look, if that’s the criteria by which we are making decisions on the deployment of U.S. forces, then by that argument you would have 300,000 troops in the Congo right now — where millions have been slaughtered as a consequence of ethnic strife — which we haven’t done,” Obama said in an interview with The Associated Press.
Iraq and Libya are apples and oranges.
WE invaded Iraq. Not to prevent or reduce genocide in that country, but ostensibly in retaliation for 9/11.
The UN called for military intervention in Libya. The US did not institate the aggression. We reluctantly followed our allies into action.
But there is one really important thing both countries have in common, besided megomaniacal, sadistic despot rulers.
And that is OIL.We did not invade Iraq in retaliation for 9/11, and the Libya operation would not have happened without US involvement beyond a token show of force at most.
"Not to prevent or reduce genocide in that country, but ostensibly in retaliation for 9/11." And then because of the WMDs. And then it was because Saddam was a bad guy. And then it was because the terrorists were there (which they weren't before we'd invaded). The reason for the US invasion of Iraq switched so many times, it'd be funny if it were a movie and not real life.
Now, I still don't like that we're involved in Libya, UN mandate or no.
I'm starting to hear about plans to arm the Libyan rebels, which I really don't like, especially since our leaders admit that we really have no idea who the rebels even are. Have we learned nothing from our earlier mistakes?Agree 100%.
We have NO BUSINESS arming Libyan rebels.
To do that we might as welll declare war officially, n'est-ce pas?
Yow about we send in some MEDICAL AID instead?
question you know I love you but is it alright that
Obama believes that if the UN says it is OK then Congress and the people are irrelevant.?
and then say everything he said and do just the same?
Poor poor Delusional Danny....
Perhaps you would like to answer the real question I posed to the Lady Loveless and the very Short Story...
They have proven incapable...and while the LL simply disappeared, the poor S.S. tried to duck and dodge by delving into questions of silliness...
But, I don't expect any more from you than I received from them...
The three of you are made for each other... If only we could send you back to the Ante Bellum, where it seems you would be happiest...
Or so you would think..More personal insults? Another of your methods of avoiding discussion?
LMAO still did not answer one question! how pathetic. I show and explain everything clearly and you can not even answer a single question just insult!
The White House decision to bomb Libya is a strange one. First, this president’s ties to the Libyan dictator go back to the years when the president-to-be was attending Jeremiah Wright’s church in Chicago. Wright, who is tight with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, is also a friend of Libya’s Muammar Qadhafi. Qadhafi even called the American president “our son” in a letter pleading that the US stay out of the Libyan conflict. Farrakhan, who once referred to the American president as the “Messiah”, has angrily rebuked the president saying, “you can’t order him to step down and get out, who the hell do you think you are?”
Qadhafi claims, and there have been media reports to confirm the claims, that al Qaeda is behind the rebellion in Libya. Qadhafi told the American president in his letter: “Al Qaeda is an armed organization, passing through Algeria, Mauritania and Mali. What would you do if you found them controlling American cities with the power of weapons?” We have an American president, who strongly criticized the Afghan and Iraqi war efforts against terrorism, bombing his friend in Libya, as al Qaeda waits in the wings to take over. In other parts of the Middle East, the US is assisting in toppling longstanding governments with al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood waiting in the shadows to take over.
Perplexing as it seems, there is some clarity. WikiLeaks released documents indicate the US has been involved since 2008 in destabilizing Middle Eastern governments in hopes of replacing them with democratic governments. This strategy was proven dangerous by the Palestinian Authority–where terrorists were elected. The current White House appears to have accelerated this strategy despite obvious indicators that the Muslim Brotherhood and its terrorist allies are powers in waiting. Ezekiel 30 talks of how “even as the day of the Lord is near” Egypt’s “foundations shall be broken down,” and Libya, “and the men of the land that is in league, shall fall with them by the sword.” America may be instrumental in bringing this about.
The Black Hole (S.S.) is trying to call the kettle black...
Keep looking in the mirror....I am flattered that you seem to be so infatuated with me, however...
You remind me of another poor guy names Sab Oh...seriously you never answer a question! you seriously look like a fool and everyone see's it! real questions have been asked and all you do is attack and avoid a real answer! I just posted two very real replies and waiting for an answer as I just proved what you said false as Obamas own words prove. come on smart boy answer the questions like a real grown up as you say you are! no more dodging questions with insults or diversions. BE A MAN FOR ONCE!
I see no answer to the question or interest in discussion in that post either.
Dear Danny...if you look through the many threads we have shared words...the only question you've put forward is regarding Mr. Wright...
I have already answered you once...and left something of my own for you to respond to...which you have still not done...
Keep lecturing on "manhood" while you continue to show that, evidently, you need to verify your own masculinity...
I'm using your metaphores...not mine...
Deranged Danny rants again... I write to Short Story...you feel obliged to intervene... Are you his/her alter-ego?
This is getting embarassing for both of you...and what's worse is you're too blind to see it...well you do not post properly as you just hit post a reply and not reply to my specific post. so I can not find or you simple have never answered my question. so you can either copy and paste and reply exactly to me so I get an email and it will take me directly to your reply or tell me you did not answer my question.
as for the new questions that you convienietly forgot, please do answer those as I directed it straight to you and at the top of this page. once again you fail to answer any!What's embarassing is being reduced to childish taunting by changing his screen name to something insulting every time you post. That's silly kids' stuff and you should be above it.
I only describe what I see...
I wonder, if I took a poll of anonymous hubbers reading along, how many would agree with my assessment...
You both hurl insults, and then whine like children when they are returned...
Ridiculous, man...
This is truly embarrassing....In your mind, does saying "I only describe what I see..." make it alright for you to hurl personal insults? Is that your justification?
Nice job slipping an "Appeal to Popularity" logical fallacy in there, btw.
And what is your source for this rubbish? Ann Coulter no less, she of the radiation is good for you rant!
how do you bring the radiation thing here?????????? and source for what? be specific please. enough with the BS
It's on another thread, go and find it. BS
so you are now talking about something on another forum post and want me to go find it? are you crazy? OMG you socialist are ridiculous. please keep your British nonsense where you are we do not want any part of that.
Any body who spent any time on these forums would know the discussion re Ann Coulter and her claim that radiation was perfectly safe. It being only a passing reference it seemed not to need any further reference, Lady Love, who the post was directed at, seemed to have no problem with it!
Now, would you like to explain why socialists are ridiculous?so now instead of keeping with the topic at hand you want to change it around because you do not have an intelligent answer and want to know why I think socialist are ridiculous. Funny
No, it is you trying to change the topic, even denying the topic!
where is lady's post in this specific thread??? please prove me wrong. I just copied the whole 2nd page which we are on and not a single post on this specific thread from lady or torture and radiation. and I'm denying the topic....your nuts
IT IS NOT DISCUSSED ON PAGE TWO. IT IS DISCUSSED ON PAGE SEVENTEEN.
Here's another one
John Holden wrote:
But not illegal does not mean that it isn't torture.
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I could make a case that talking with liberals is torture too! Lol!
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It's immediately before a post that you made!it has only 2 pages! your talking about a totally different thread.
Look, I'll take mercy on you. Scroll to the top of the page and see two buttons, one marked Threaded, the other marked Chronological.
Click the one marked chronological. Viewing the topic in thread form will ensure that you miss important parts of the discussion and other parts won't be related to any thing else.
Do it now, then come back and we'll pretend that it never happened!
Deal?I look from threaded not chronologically. only 2 pages threaded. that explains it.
If you answer the question at hand, I will answer yours, do not ask a question with another question off topic.
What has that got to do with the illegality of water torture?
where does water torture come in????????????
Beg pardon, water boarding which quite obviously isn't water torture, sigh.
where is that in this forum???? what is the matter when you can not justify something you just switch topics?
The posts on here aren't numbered but there are plenty about sixteen at least almost immediately before this one.
nothing on this specific forum is about water torture or radiation. what are you talking about?
Oh god! I give up you're blind, there are countless posts where Lady Love argues that water boarding isn't torture and an equal number where I argue that it is.
The reference to Ann Coulter was as a response to Lady Love posting an item by Ann Coulter to support her claim that water boarding isn't torture.blind? Lady did not even write anything on this specific thread! are you blind? I can copy and paste this whole 2nd page to show you?
Do that mate cos this is about post 350 on this thread and I can assure you that the topic didn't get on to water boarding until around post 300, so send me post's 20-40 and prove me wrong!
Jeez!Who Pays Right Wing Posters to Attack Barack Obama?
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mikelongposted 5 hours ago
Danny....
Who's "your people with the handout"?
As for "those lying liberals"....anyone who cannot see that deceit lies at both ends of the political spectrum is either
1) Blind
2) Lying
or
3) an idiot
And for the nearly 10 years of war we have been "slogging" through...I guess it was those "liberals" that created the web of deceit that led us to Mesopotamia...right?
Oh wait....the "most liberal" member of the Senate was one of the few who voted against going to war with Iraq.... That darm Obama...always on the wrong side of history??
At least not in this case...
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DannyMaioposted 4 hours ago in reply to this
Again you just spew BS! you still did not answer my question about Wright after you posted the links from youtube. I answered your questions but once again you have no answer to mine and you spew nonsense! again comprehension is key! if you look back I did State Bush caused the Iraq war not the Afgan war, that was justified. and your most liberal senator just started a war! what do you have to say about that??? Did he not just spend 100's of millions in cruise missiles? is he thinking of arming the rebels who happen to side with Iran and Alqeda? why the change? please do tell.
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mikelongposted 4 hours ago
Actually, Danny, I have already begun answering that question...but it seems you have failed to read the post that I left behind... Check it out
I am not spewing...you are just projecting...
There is a difference..
"If you look back I did State Bush caused the Iraq war not the Afghan war"<--Danny
I don't know what you just said....can you please clarify your statement?
As for the "war" that has been unfolding in Libya...I do know that something had to be done..
As a descendent of Ottoman Armenians, it was the failed promises of the United States following World War One that led to the final deportation of Armenians from their native lands, and to the second genocide, that is commonly not mentioned in the media... Everyone points to 1915, but few realize what happened in 1920/21..
If only someone had intervened back then...
Danny, I made a comment concerning Lady's remark about lying...and you took it personally...
That is your problem...not mine..
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al...no "liberals" there...but the web of deceit they wove has driven our nation's wealth into a ditch, and has killed, wounded, and demoralized thousands of American men and women...
As I write this statement I think about the fellow Marine who I used to work with at my local community college... I was his classmate and tutor...and after 3 tours in Iraq...the last time I saw him, he was standing in the library with tears in his eyes... His first two deployments had been with active-duty troops....and he had come through okay.. His final deployment was with reservists...and he returned a broken man..
I don't know what happened to him... I hope he is okay..
This is the cost of the lies that "neo-conservatives" wove and played on those of us (like myself) who didn't know any better...
And, again..at least that "darn liberal" Obama had the guts and brains to call out Mr. Bush as a liar, and to stand by our need to not invade a country with no ties to Islamic terror...
Going back to Libya real quick....imagine if the bombing done under Reagan had killed Ghadafi....and think about the power vaccuum and unrest that would have followed... If you think Reagan would not have either put boots on the ground or done something similar to Obama then you are out of your mind...
If Obama was a white, conservative President he would be getting praised right now...and those "conservatives" would try to protect him from criticism, as they tried to do on behalf of dear old Bush...
Remember all the flak about the "threat that challenging the commander in chief would cause" in time of conflict?
How quickly such important information is forgotten...or intentionally ignored..
By the way, Danny...fiscal responsibility and Ronald Reagan are mutually exclusive things....
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DannyMaioposted 4 hours ago in reply to this
I did not see your answer to my question after you posted your links to youtube and still do not.
As for the "war" that has been unfolding in Libya...I do know that something had to be done..
so it is ok for Obama but not bush? they were no threat to us so we are invading a country! no way around that. Obama said he would never invade a country if they were no threat to us for the wars GB started. but strangely it is OK now? Mike there are many other countries that are far worse than Libya how come he doesn't do something there? Syria is killing people everyday? Iran? Korea? why just pick them? And if you took off your goggles you would actually see many republicans are saying he is doing the right thing and many democrats are criticizing him! where are you getting your info? right away with the black stuff again, please he is 1/2 white if you have not heard. you seriously need to open your mind, you know what they say a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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DannyMaioposted 4 hours ago in reply to this
THIS IS A DEMOCRAT SAYING THIS!
Now that Obama has committed to military action in Libya, it will be interesting to see if Democrats and anti-war pundits line up to criticize him. Considering an interview today with Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), maybe, just maybe, it will happen.
Appearing on Fox News today, Kucinich opened up his interview by reading a quote from none other than Barack Obama, who back in the day criticized President Bush for military action in the Mideast:
“I’m gonna read this and then tell you who said it. ‘The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.’ Now that was Barack Obama who said that on December the 20, 2007. We’ve got to be very sure here that we follow the Constitution, and president Obama didn’t do that.”
Kucinich also had this nugget: the intervention we’ve already committed to will cost “half-a-billion dollars.”
“We cannot be the policemen of the world, as tragic as the situations are across the world, the United States cannot afford nor do we have the authority to go and intervene,” he added.
As Gateway Pundit reports via USA Today, back in 2007 Obama said preventing genocide is not enough to justify military action:
Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Thursday the United States cannot use its military to solve humanitarian problems and that preventing a potential genocide in Iraq isn’t a good enough reason to keep U.S. forces there.
“Well, look, if that’s the criteria by which we are making decisions on the deployment of U.S. forces, then by that argument you would have 300,000 troops in the Congo right now — where millions have been slaughtered as a consequence of ethnic strife — which we haven’t done,” Obama said in an interview with The Associated Press.
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Mighty Momposted 4 hours ago
Iraq and Libya are apples and oranges.
WE invaded Iraq. Not to prevent or reduce genocide in that country, but ostensibly in retaliation for 9/11.
The UN called for military intervention in Libya. The US did not institate the aggression. We reluctantly followed our allies into action.
But there is one really important thing both countries have in common, besided megomaniacal, sadistic despot rulers.
And that is OIL.
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ShortStoryposted 4 hours ago in reply to this
We did not invade Iraq in retaliation for 9/11, and the Libya operation would not have happened without US involvement beyond a token show of force at most.
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Jeff Berndtposted 4 hours ago in reply to this
"Not to prevent or reduce genocide in that country, but ostensibly in retaliation for 9/11." And then because of the WMDs. And then it was because Saddam was a bad guy. And then it was because the terrorists were there (which they weren't before we'd invaded). The reason for the US invasion of Iraq switched so many times, it'd be funny if it were a movie and not real life.
Now, I still don't like that we're involved in Libya, UN mandate or no.
I'm starting to hear about plans to arm the Libyan rebels, which I really don't like, especially since our leaders admit that we really have no idea who the rebels even are. Have we learned nothing from our earlier mistakes?
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Mighty Momposted 4 hours ago in reply to this
Agree 100%.
We have NO BUSINESS arming Libyan rebels.
To do that we might as welll declare war officially, n'est-ce pas?
Yow about we send in some MEDICAL AID instead?
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DannyMaioposted 3 hours ago in reply to this
question you know I love you but is it alright that
Obama believes that if the UN says it is OK then Congress and the people are irrelevant.?
and then say everything he said and do just the same?
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mikelongposted 4 hours ago
Poor poor Delusional Danny....
Perhaps you would like to answer the real question I posed to the Lady Loveless and the very Short Story...
They have proven incapable...and while the LL simply disappeared, the poor S.S. tried to duck and dodge by delving into questions of silliness...
But, I don't expect any more from you than I received from them...
The three of you are made for each other... If only we could send you back to the Ante Bellum, where it seems you would be happiest...
Or so you would think..
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ShortStoryposted 3 hours ago in reply to this
More personal insults? Another of your methods of avoiding discussion?
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DannyMaioposted 3 hours ago in reply to this
LMAO still did not answer one question! how pathetic. I show and explain everything clearly and you can not even answer a single question just insult!
The White House decision to bomb Libya is a strange one. First, this president’s ties to the Libyan dictator go back to the years when the president-to-be was attending Jeremiah Wright’s church in Chicago. Wright, who is tight with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, is also a friend of Libya’s Muammar Qadhafi. Qadhafi even called the American president “our son” in a letter pleading that the US stay out of the Libyan conflict. Farrakhan, who once referred to the American president as the “Messiah”, has angrily rebuked the president saying, “you can’t order him to step down and get out, who the hell do you think you are?”
Qadhafi claims, and there have been media reports to confirm the claims, that al Qaeda is behind the rebellion in Libya. Qadhafi told the American president in his letter: “Al Qaeda is an armed organization, passing through Algeria, Mauritania and Mali. What would you do if you found them controlling American cities with the power of weapons?” We have an American president, who strongly criticized the Afghan and Iraqi war efforts against terrorism, bombing his friend in Libya, as al Qaeda waits in the wings to take over. In other parts of the Middle East, the US is assisting in toppling longstanding governments with al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood waiting in the shadows to take over.
Perplexing as it seems, there is some clarity. WikiLeaks released documents indicate the US has been involved since 2008 in destabilizing Middle Eastern governments in hopes of replacing them with democratic governments. This strategy was proven dangerous by the Palestinian Authority–where terrorists were elected. The current White House appears to have accelerated this strategy despite obvious indicators that the Muslim Brotherhood and its terrorist allies are powers in waiting. Ezekiel 30 talks of how “even as the day of the Lord is near” Egypt’s “foundations shall be broken down,” and Libya, “and the men of the land that is in league, shall fall with them by the sword.” America may be instrumental in bringing this about.
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mikelongposted 3 hours ago
The Black Hole (S.S.) is trying to call the kettle black...
Keep looking in the mirror....I am flattered that you seem to be so infatuated with me, however...
You remind me of another poor guy names Sab Oh...
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DannyMaioposted 3 hours ago in reply to this
seriously you never answer a question! you seriously look like a fool and everyone see's it! real questions have been asked and all you do is attack and avoid a real answer! I just posted two very real replies and waiting for an answer as I just proved what you said false as Obamas own words prove. come on smart boy answer the questions like a real grown up as you say you are! no more dodging questions with insults or diversions. BE A MAN FOR ONCE!
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ShortStoryposted 3 hours ago in reply to this
I see no answer to the question or interest in discussion in that post either.
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DannyMaioposted 2 hours ago in reply to this
Guess he knows he is totally beat. sad kid
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mikelongposted 119 minutes ago
Dear Danny...if you look through the many threads we have shared words...the only question you've put forward is regarding Mr. Wright...
I have already answered you once...and left something of my own for you to respond to...which you have still not done...
Keep lecturing on "manhood" while you continue to show that, evidently, you need to verify your own masculinity...
I'm using your metaphores...not mine...
Deranged Danny rants again... I write to Short Story...you feel obliged to intervene... Are you his/her alter-ego?
This is getting embarassing for both of you...and what's worse is you're too blind to see it...
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DannyMaioposted 109 minutes ago in reply to this
well you do not post properly as you just hit post a reply and not reply to my specific post. so I can not find or you simple have never answered my question. so you can either copy and paste and reply exactly to me so I get an email and it will take me directly to your reply or tell me you did not answer my question.
as for the new questions that you convienietly forgot, please do answer those as I directed it straight to you and at the top of this page. once again you fail to answer any!
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ShortStoryposted 108 minutes ago in reply to this
What's embarassing is being reduced to childish taunting by changing his screen name to something insulting every time you post. That's silly kids' stuff and you should be above it.
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mikelongposted 105 minutes ago
I only describe what I see...
I wonder, if I took a poll of anonymous hubbers reading along, how many would agree with my assessment...
You both hurl insults, and then whine like children when they are returned...
Ridiculous, man...
This is truly embarrassing....
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ShortStoryposted 76 minutes ago in reply to this
In your mind, does saying "I only describe what I see..." make it alright for you to hurl personal insults? Is that your justification?
Nice job slipping an "Appeal to Popularity" logical fallacy in there, btw.
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John Holdenposted 51 minutes ago
And what is your source for this rubbish? Ann Coulter no less, she of the radiation is good for you rant!
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DannyMaioposted 32 minutes ago in reply to this
how do you bring the radiation thing here?????????? and source for what? be specific please. enough with the BS
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John Holdenposted 27 minutes ago in reply to this
It's on another thread, go and find it. BS
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DannyMaioposted 13 minutes ago in reply to this
so you are now talking about something on another forum post and want me to go find it? are you crazy? OMG you socialist are ridiculous. please keep your British nonsense where you are we do not want any part of that.
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John Holdenposted 8 minutes ago in reply to this
Any body who spent any time on these forums would know the discussion re Ann Coulter and her claim that radiation was perfectly safe. It being only a passing reference it seemed not to need any further reference, Lady Love, who the post was directed at, seemed to have no problem with it!
Now, would you like to explain why socialists are ridiculous?
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so now instead of keeping with the topic at hand you want to change it around because you do not have an intelligent answer and want to know why I think socialist are ridiculous. Funny
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DannyMaioposted 15 seconds ago in reply to this
If you answer the question at hand, I will answer yours, do not ask a question with another question off topic.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl … 3G_7gpeJQ8
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John Holdenposted 22 minutes ago in reply to this
What has that got to do with the illegality of water torture?
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DannyMaioposted 20 minutes ago in reply to this
where does water torture come in????????????
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John Holdenposted 19 minutes ago in reply to this
Beg pardon, water boarding which quite obviously isn't water torture, sigh.
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DannyMaioposted 17 minutes ago in reply to this
where is that in this forum???? what is the matter when you can not justify something you just switch topics?
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John Holdenposted 15 minutes ago in reply to this
The posts on here aren't numbered but there are plenty about sixteen at least almost immediately before this one.
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DannyMaioposted 11 minutes ago in reply to this
nothing on this specific forum is about water torture or radiation. what are you talking about?
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John Holdenposted 5 minutes ago in reply to this
Oh god! I give up you're blind, there are countless posts where Lady Love argues that water boarding isn't torture and an equal number where I argue that it is.
The reference to Ann Coulter was as a response to Lady Love posting an item by Ann Coulter to support her claim that water boarding isn't torture.
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DannyMaioposted 2 minutes ago in reply to this
blind? Lady did not even write anything on this specific thread! are you blind? I can copy and paste this whole 2nd page to show you?
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John Holdenposted 15 seconds ago in reply to this
Do that mate cos this is about post 350 on this thread and I can assure you that the topic didn't get on to water boarding until around post 300, so send me post's 20-40 and prove me wrong!
Jeez!
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Can you show me where on this specific thread does anyone talk about torture or radiation? I bet you can even admit your wrong on that! I went through page 2 again and nothing has anything to do with that. do you care to answer the question at hand? or you have no real answers?
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John Holdenposted 4 minutes ago in reply to this
Try page 16 and 17 rather than page two!
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DannyMaioposted 19 minutes ago in reply to this
I just went back many post all the way to the top of this page and no where do I see radiation and water torture??? are you that delusional?
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That's right! Very specific techniques were used and a legal opinion was obtained from the justice dept prior to employing them. This was NOT the same waterboarding the Japanese used on their victims in WWII.
But liberals don't read any sources but their own. It's reassuring to stick with like opinions so independent thought isn't required.
You mean the sort of water boarding that resulted in US forces executing Japanese soldiers for using in WWII?
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Can you explain to this ignorant lefty how exactly water boarding as carried out by the US deferred from that used by the Japanese?
I have tried to find out but the internet remains quiet on the subject beyond describing water boarding.
Here is wikipedia's take on water boarding;-
"The United States's Office of Legal Counsel stated the CIA's definition of waterboarding in a Top Secret 2002 memorandum as follows:
In this procedure, the individual is bound securely to an inclined bench, which is approximately four feet by seven feet. The individual's feet are generally elevated. A cloth is placed over the forehead and eyes. Water is then applied to the cloth in a controlled manner. As this is done, the cloth is lowered until it covers both the nose and mouth. Once the cloth is saturated and completely covers the mouth and nose, air flow is slightly restricted for 20 to 40 seconds due to the presence of the cloth... During those 20 to 40 seconds, water is continuously applied from a height of twelve to twenty-four inches. After this period, the cloth is lifted, and the individual is allowed to breathe unimpeded for three or four full breaths... The procedure may then be repeated. The water is usually applied from a canteen cup or small watering can with a spout... You have... informed us that it is likely that this procedure would not last more than twenty minutes in any one application.[23]
Dating back to the Spanish Inquisition, the suffocation of bound prisoners with water has been favored because, unlike most other torture techniques, it produces no marks on the body.[24] CIA officers who have subjected themselves to the technique have lasted an average of 14 seconds before capitulating.[3]"
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that is a totally different topic! no where on this specific thread is that here. do you do this purposely to change the topic when you do not have a legitimate answer?
I think you have a serious PC problem, that's the diplomatic response!
I'm posting on "Who pays Right Wing Posters to Attack Barack Obama"
A thought, are you logged in and what post numbers do you see at the top of the page?
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Can you show me where on this specific thread does anyone talk about torture or radiation? I bet you can even admit your wrong on that! I went through page 2 again and nothing has anything to do with that. do you care to answer the question at hand? or you have no real answers?
yeah try and change it around! I just posted the whole 2nd page and no where is a post with radiation or torture from lady. you can not even admit your wrong! how sad for you. I just looked at other forum post and you probably thinking of another.
I just went back many post all the way to the top of this page and no where do I see radiation and water torture??? are you that delusional?
Ann please tell me if I'm wrong does anywhere on this 2nd page say anything about water torture or radiation?
yes you need the padded one because your quoting things from another thread and not even man enough to admit it!
No mate, I'm quoting things from this thread, except for my reference to Ann Coulter, which referred to another thread but didn't cross on to it.
You even posted the tag end of the debate re water boarding on your massive copy and paste!
ann, I know this is ridiculous but this crazy Brit thinks that Lady posted about water torture and radiation on this page. did I miss it?
Eighty something year old Joan Rivers was waterboarded by her young grandson and his pals. She seemed okay with it.
http://www.popeater.com/2011/03/09/joan … erboarded/Well she's a game old bird. Even lying down like that on the grass of death at her age let alone getting up is a feat.
I'll say! I hope, but I doubt, that I'll still be around and that fit at that age.
Men are such babies... they can't take a little water on the face? Try having a baby! Lol!
I feel that there are a number of people who would gripe and complain about ANYONE that stepped into the office of President. Obama, or any other person in that position, will constantly be up against a stream of attacks-- just based on the position that he holds.
You can't please everyone. No matter what he does while in office, there will be people backing him up-- and people countering him. It is just par for the course.
As far as people being paid for these attacks, hey-- there are a number of people on FB who just pound him daily. They aren't being paid for that, they just ENJOY it!
In my opinion, anyone who would follow George W. Bush would be in a position to constantly try to "clean up" what was happened in that previous administration. Obama was stepping into quick sand, from the minute that he took office. George W. and his Administration really set some boobie traps for anyone else who would follow him.
Let's face it, we are in better hands with Obama than we EVER were with George W. The only thing that I miss, were his comic relief ridiculous statements that were so comical that he would have been much better off playing a role on Sat. Nite Live, than claiming the position of President of the USA.
Hey, I'm from Texas-- and I've always been proud to be a Texan... but the years that George W. was in office, I could have crawled under a rock because I was so embarrassed of him.I guess the other shils will be around shortly, you might like to run short English language course between you, Evan or John could help you out. They might even help you with how to do research that goes beyond Youtube and a few faked up old pictures - Oh yes, and the geography of course.
Now me, I'm off out for our Saturday evening dinner in the safety of China's streets full of charming helpful and peaceful people - I may catch up with you kids later when I get back but don't hold your collective shil breath ok.If anyone is running an English course, you should think about signing up yourself. If the above post is any indication, you could really use some help with articles, syntax, spelling, and punctuation.
And I hope you do enjoy a safe, peaceful evening. If you stay out of the wrong parts of town at the wrong time of night you should be fine.Well done, moved the topic right off anything at all serious!
Hey guys, let's not bother about torture, let's discuss the English language, so much more important!DISCLAIMER: This dialogue manipulated for your enjoyment by various politically minded individuals from several different ideologies. No Liberals were harmed in the making of this forum post. No Conservatives were allowed to harm anything in the making of this forum post. Thank you for your time.
Rec1 said:
"John - you are wasting your time. Your 'opposition', as you call the mindless gaggle of trolls and paid shils you are trying to argue with, are too dumb to connect their own whining about freedom, freedom of speech, human rights in other countries with the more gross examples of their own govenment.
They are so short of vision and reason they can't see that the killing of brave UN people who are prepared to BE in these places of danger （created by the US) is totally connected to their support and encouragement of their right wing christian friends to publicly burn Koran's.
They are so short of self respect they are prepared to lick the a@@ of the masters who enslave them.
They are so self-engrossed with their own mouths they can't see that Guantanemo gives any opposition the green light to torture Americans. They are so blind they can't see that International laws and treaties work both ways, and that it is encumbent on the most powerful forces to follow the law absolutely or they cannot complain when they are no longer the bully on the block.
Unfortunately they are just grubby cowards shouting off their mouths and supporting torture, murder, regime change, race hate and their own bigotted thinking hiding in the anonymity of their digital hate-spew - at the expense of real lives on the ground.
Remember this - your 1st post. And you don't see how you could be considered a troll.
Oh -- shill has 2 L's, just like troll. If you're as brilliant as you claim, you should know such things.Two L's?
But, but thats just a typing error on his part.
He knew it had two L's, he was just thinking so far ahead of the rest of us he forgot to add it.
Genius that he is.I am no genius, I find that I am quite average in most respects
- except in present company where I am so clearly superior in almost every way that it is hilarious.
It is how being teacher in a primary school must feel, where all the kids don't even know how to crap let alone read ! I now understand Gullivers Travels even better than the last time I read it
Paid shills with two ll's but no moral compass, trolls who have been banned frequently for their forum behaviour, trolls who leave sh!tty comments on my hubs because they are unable to put enough coherent words together to make their own hubs, and the just plain stoopid who think they have the right to mouth off about the behaviour of other countries - but their own country indiscriminately bombing around the world is godswork, along with torture, political arrests, assassination drones that kill women and kids every day, state executions etc etc etc.
Grown up's know this is how the world works at the moment for good or bad, and most people are beginning to understand that any words in these forums or elsewhere get out onto the internet and appear to the texting masses as 'information'.
it is time Hubpages put a stop to the paid posts of these small people - as by anwering their garbage we are assisting in this deliberate dissemination of misinformation.It must be hell coming up with so many different monikers for yourself.
I was partial to China man.
Oh well.I quite liked Chinaman too - especialy the part where he made it clear all the avatars that he was in the first lines of his profile for everyone to see. Who else are you Jim ? are you also TK and SadOh ?
Funny thing is that Chinaman was not a Chinese man, did not seem familiar with much of the reality of life in China and spoke NO Chinese. He claimed to be a teacher but didn't seem to know the first thing about teaching and had a rather tenuous grasp of the English language. He was, in a way, a great writer though.
"I am no genius, I find that I am quite average in most respects -except in present company where I am so clearly superior in almost every way that it is hilarious."
What's hillarious is that you actually believe that! Oh yes you're superior in everyway! Lol! Typical liberal all knowing better than everyone else and only you are capable of understanding the complex issues of the world! Lol!I would have thought that as an employee of some right wing scrag-end you would have been vetted in some way. But I guess a shill (with two ll's) does not need to be able think, just repeat lies and misinformation and keep the word associations that your masters choose re-cycling around the internet. You are a political shill of the worst kind.
Your name is a miss-gnomer - you should have called yourself lady-white then we could have given all your little troll followers suitable names alsoRight because only someone as superior as you has the capacity to judge what is a lie and what is truth. Sadly its libs like you in power that are doing real damage to this country.
Like the other trolls and shills (with two ll's) - you clearly are also unable to read. I made it quite clear that I am not superior in any way - it is the gaggle of no-brainers around these threads that just make me appear that way.
Forgetful much? Go back and read your own words stating your superiority! But then that's also another trait of the left denial and hypocrisy.
If those others are "trolls," "shillllllls," and "no-brainers" then you must be superior unless you are a no-brainer yourself, right?
I agree with Short Story/Sab Oh (the similarities are too close)...on the count that the President will always be under attack from somewhere...although I remember how the overwhelming majority held back any criticism of Bush after 9/11....
I don't know if the "left" is obsessing with her....it is quite apparent that she is obsessing over herself...whether it was through her "grooming" on Fox Schmooz...her show on the Learning Channel, or her recent visit to India.... It is she who is twittering away (or someone she pays with the wealth she's received from the book deals she never would have had if the GOP vetting process had been sincere).
The problem with the "right" is that she may end up on the ticket again somehow.... I do think that the "left" would love that idea, however...
Lady Love may wish to see a Bachman/Palin White House....but I think that gruesome twosome would put women's lib back 200 years... Then again...that is exactly where the "conservative" fringe would wish this country to go...
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