For comparative purposes; and in search of truth

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   For comparative purposes; and in search of truth
   
   The theists who believe a Word revealed; should mention the claims of their religion from the Book they believe in and the reason from it.
   The atheists who don’t believe in religion should present their claims from science, which they eulogize so much, and reason from science.

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      Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Still attacking atheists?

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         paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Not attacking the atheists; they are good people and I don't judge anybody. I just mention what I sincerely believe to be truthful with an open mind.
         
         The atheists have an equal chance to prove that atheism are a truthful ideology, whatever, please read the OP.
         
         Thanks for your input. I feel encouraged.

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            A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            That is the tallest tale you've spun so far.

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      A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Honesty does not bestow you.
      
      Do you actually believe we don't know you'll never compare anything to Islam? Wow, you must really believe the rest of us are so dim witted as to not see right through you.

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Can a christian mention the claims of their religion pertainimg to trinity from Gospels they believe in and the reason from the Gospels?

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   Quran asks atheists and others:
   
   [2:112] And they say, ‘None shall ever enter Heaven unless he be a Jew or a Christian.’ These are their vain desires. Say, ‘Produce your proof, if you are truthful.
   
   http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … ;verse=111
   
   - to bring your proofs of the claims and the reasons both from the source you believe in.

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   Quran values brilliant arguments:
   
   [12:109] Say, ‘This is my way: I call unto Allah on sure knowledge, I and those who follow me. And Holy is Allah; and I am not of those who associate gods with God.’
   [12:110] And We sent not before thee as Messengers any but men, whom We inspired, from among the people of the towns. Have they not then travelled in the earth and seen what was the end of those before them? And surely, the abode of the Hereafter is better for those who fear God. Will you not then understand?
   
   http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … ;verse=108

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   wildernessposted 12 years ago

   While you are producing quotes from scriptures written thousands of years ago, you have to know that they prove only that the words were written.  As proof that the words are actually true and from God they are worthless.
   
   There is no reason for any atheist to even read these scriptures, let alone believe them to be true, and you are aware of that.
   
   Why do you then continue to produce them?

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      How dould you make comparison between religions, ideologies, philosphy in search of truth?
      
      It is for those who are on truth and in search of truth.

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         wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I see.  My misunderstanding of the thrust of your OP.
         
         But, Paar, if you don't like a quote or statement from any religion but your own, you just declare it not to be a truthful religion.  There is no search for truth; you already know it all.
         
         Why would you expect anyone else to do any different?

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            paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I appreciate your input, friend.
            
            One should give  claim and reason as I mentioned in the OP; truth will itself shine in the process; one could pick it up if one is an open mind.
            
            Everybody is free to quote both claim and reason form the book one believes in; of course of his choice.
            
            The atheisst; as they don't have a book, they could quote from science which they eulogize so often.

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               psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I don't see an open mind, I see

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                  paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Please elaborate.

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   MelissaBarrettposted 12 years ago

   You are free to quote anything you like, however, you need to understand that people who don't follow your religion are unlikely to be swayed by your religious texts. 
   
   On an aside, I get irritated by pages of quotes from any text. The texts are on the internet, if I wanted to read them I would go looking.  A note on which parts of exactly which texts are being referenced is sufficient.  I hate having to scroll for five minutes to find an original sentence. 
   
   In addition, I very rarely quote religious texts unless we are specifically discussing the meaning of a verse or it's a "where does it say that" kinda thing.  I figure if you have to copy and paste another source to tell what your opinion is, you might possibly be brainwashed.  It is YOUR opinion after all, right?  I mean you don't let a book do all your thinking for you?

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That might be you; there are others who think otherwise; they advise that I should quote from Quran instead of Bible.
      
      When I quote from Quran; I mean the reason mentioned in it; which I only explain further; Quran is a Living Book; it provides reasons in the context and needs no, necesarily, advocates.
      
      I enjoy your posts, friend.

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   knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

   My book is reality as it happens.

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You mean there was no reality in the past; and there will be no in the future?

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