You are not so clever as you think

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   Disappearingheadposted 12 years ago

   Why is it that the workings of the brain, the organs, the immune system, and all those processes that keep us alive, show more intelligence than the consciousness that inhabits?
   
   Given that by observation of the natural world and the cosmos we observe things that we could never have invented, is it any wonder that man created religion in an attempt to explain it all?
   
   Come on people don't be so harsh on those that have a faith. It's one thing to be able to explain the universe and origins of life, but quite another to come up with the "designs" in the first place. We might say that "life finds a way to evolve by itself", but why is it so? Why should life "care" that it continues to exist?
   
   God cannot be proven by scientific measure, but for me philosophical arguments make a good case for His existence.

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Any idea when he is coming back from His vacation?

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         Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         That depends upon the selected religion.

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            paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Any of them saying sometime this decade?

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               Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Errrr not that I'm aware of.

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                  paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

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                     Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     All I know is that during my 25 years in Church I was told that God talks to everyone, that is, He came back from holiday 2000 years ago. I've certainly met hundreds of people who think God is talking to them all the time. But if I'm honest I can't recall a single occasion where I have heard God or seen evidence of His involvement in my life. So no I cannot prove God from experience as I'm supposed to be able to according to the Church.

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                        paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        An open, questioning mind is a good thing. I try to practice the same.

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                           Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Me too.

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                              paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Maybe we should start our own religion. What would be your first tenet?

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                                 Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 Not to be so sure of one's own ideas. Time will come when you find out you were wrong.

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                                    paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    That is excellent!

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                        paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        I think that you think Jesus to be a god; no, Jesus was neither a god or a son of god.

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      A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sure, as long as they keep their faith behind closed doors.
      
      That isn't reality, though.

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         Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Is it the religion you object to or the actions of its adherents?

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            A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Bringing it out in public to evangelize.
            
            Brainwashing children is abuse, which everyone should object.

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               Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               It isn't abuse if the kids like it.  Most do, unfortunately.
               
               I agree that it CAN be abuse for some  but I think the principles of freedom of religion force us to look the other  way. 
               
               I would have to see extreme behavior before I'd want to interfere in that area.

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         aka-djposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Ot could be equally valid to say, keep yourself out of earshot.
         Heck, no-one forces you to enter the RELIGION forum.
         
         Stay out. No-one will bother you with it.
         I certainly wouldn't be chasing you down.

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            A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You have the right to practice your religion, but not when it affects other people. Telling others to just go away when you do affect them is not practicing your religion, it is being  disrespectful of others.
            
            But, I don't think you'll ever understand that.

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               aka-djposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               So, if you don't want to be affected, "go away"
               
               We each affect other people irrespective of religion, but you probably don't understand that either.

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      Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Why should life "care" that it continues to exist?
      
      Because the creatures that don't care don't live long enough to reproduce.
      
      As to designs, the designs are often not that good.  Our eyes, for example, are poor design because of our "blind spot".  A squid has a much better design - no blind spot.   I guess your "designer"  forgot that design when he got around to making us quite a few million years later.

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with you; the Creator God does exist.

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years ago

   Well, I think you scored yourself a reader with this forum post anyway.

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   Insane Mundaneposted 12 years ago

   As the old adage states, "I think, therefore I am."

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      aka-djposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      
      "I think, and therefore I have thoughts."
      

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         Insane Mundaneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         If I were to mock that, I would say:
         
         "You stink, and therefore you have smells."
         
         
         But, I'm not in a mocking and jeering mood right now, so congrats on whatever it is that you just said; cheers!

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            aka-djposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Chill out.
            It was meant to be humorous.
            I thought some others might find it funny.

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   mega1posted 12 years ago

   Cultivate a peaceful mind

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   icountthetimesposted 12 years ago

   Why the assumption that there is a design or a plan?

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      Insane Mundaneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I assume it has something to do with the non-randomness of it all and how we can identify certain laws and properties and the order therin; this most likely takes a slight bit of awareness and scientific discernment, for some, of course.     Then again, if mythical woo-woo has you confused, you can always stumble upon quantum theories of particles that are smaller than an atom, and we all know about how empy space leads to particle-filled madness. Ha! You do the math, and it all makes sense...

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   WD Curry 111posted 12 years ago

   Maybe I can't make a good argument for the existence of God. However, you have provided ample evidence of your unbridled enthusiasm to waste my time.

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