Why do you think we are seeing more and more people turning to ancient religions

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   SpiritusShepherdposted 8 years ago

   Why do you think we are seeing more and more people turning to ancient religions?
   
   The modern world is seeing more and more people return to pagan and religions and a belief that herbal remedies and spells are best medical practice. In addition many younger Christians are leaving contemporary churches for more traditional churches, like the Roman Catholic Church, what are your theories on why this is?

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   Norine Williamsposted 8 years ago

   The reason "..more and more people are turning to ancient religions" is because "religion," has not taught TRUTH when "interpreting" Bible and therefore the FULLNESS of HIS POWER can and will not be realized! 
   
   I have seen one raised from the dead, miracles, healings, individuals speaking in tongues, witnessed those being filled with the Holy Spirit (and they aren't quiet.  How can one be when the Power of God is upon you?), and much more!  They are not "taught" to "Walk in the Spirit" as indicated in Romans Chapter 8 and Galatians 5:17 which says "For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary the one to the other, SO THAT YE CANNOT DO THE THING THAT YE WOULD."  Did you hear that "sheep?"  We could "DO THINGS" as mentioned above! 
   
   Did Jesus not say in John 14:12 (since He was on earth a short period but sent Holy Spirit to "help us,") "...He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he DO ALSO; and GREATER WORKS than these shall he do, because I go unto my Father."  Did he not send us a "Comforter" (Holy Spirit) to "DO THESE THINGS" AND "GREATER" when He "Went to His Father?"  Is it a LIE?  It's in Scripture!  Either it is a LIE or those who don't believe is not a "believer!"
   
   With "no action" or "proof" of His Power, people are "turning to ancient religions" or "anything" they can ("carnally") see, touch, or feel which satisfies their "reasoning and logic!"
   
   Return to the Roman Catholic Church?  Organized religion that "the world" has concluded is right and do not study HIS WORD for themselves as "lost sheep" do!  As you know, if "sheep" sees another jump from cliff, they all follow!  And so it is with "religion!"  They all follow without "STUDYING" (II Timothy 2:15)!
   
   Apparently, in the "eyes" of "religion," GOD is DEAD; otherwise, sheep would "receive the "gift" of the Holy Spirit which is the POWER of GOD and "DO THING" as mentioned above!

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "DO THINGS!"  Have you heard of "THINGS DONE" in the Roman Catholic Church?  It wasn't n news!  Any priest raise the dead, heal the sick, open eyes of blind, etc. as JESUS did?  What's wrong?  THINK, "sheep!" Have you seen @ ur church/belief?

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      SpiritusShepherdposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Or perhaps they turn from Christianity, because they are promised miracles and no miracles happen for them, so they seek the next religion hoping to find the miracle there. Only one miracle should be focused upon and that is the resurrection of Jesus

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      PlanksandNailsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine,
      
      "Greater works" means carrying the gospel to the ends of the earth. It does not mean miracles. A study of the greek word ergon 2041 reveals the context. You shout study! yet you add your own eisegesis to Scripture.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Kris: They aren't "taught" how to exercise their "faith" for POWER & why no "miracles!"  Miracles outdated!
      
      P&N: So "miracles" are outdated? I thought "HE (Jesus Christ) is the same yesterday, today & forever" (Heb 13:8)?  See, why ppl

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      PlanksandNailsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine,
      
      Again, you twist more Scripture out of context Hebrews13:8 is about faith. Jesus is unchangeable in his faithfulness.You are cherry-picking and adding your own meaning to the verses. Read the previous verse and your error becomes obvious.

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      SpiritusShepherdposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Planks and Nails, I wish there was a "like" button for comments.
      Norine: you keep telling us to look at the word of God but you faith seems to be based more on the presence of "miracles" than an actual belief in what his Word says

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      P&N: WORD! Can u chg it? Mal 3:6 "For I the Lord DO NOT CHANGE; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed."  DID HE LIE?
      
      Kris: Did He LIE in Gal 5:17?  You LIMIT His POWER!

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      SpiritusShepherdposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I am glad that I am so powerful to hinder the might of an omnipotent God.

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      PlanksandNailsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine,
      ???
      Mal 3:6 is saying that God performs his promises, and effectually disposes of the allegation in 2:17 that He put no difference between the evil and the good. The great principles of right and wrong never change; they are as everlasting.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Kris: If u don't believe & have faith, U limit Him which STOPS the flow of HIS POWER then wonder why "nothing fm GOD?"
       
       P&N: U know GOD doesn't chg! IF IT IS WRITTEN, TI'S SO no matter what "context!"  U blaspheme calling Holy Spirit a LIAR!

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       PlanksandNailsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Norine,
       
       The Bible makes it clear that those who twist Scripture have a spirit of error, and should be shunned as troublemakers. (1John 4:1, Romans 16:17). I leave you to your delusion.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       P&N: And u to "yours" denying WORD (blaspheming)!  If 1 denies the POWER of the HOLY SPIRIT and says "a believer," you LIE! 
       
       GOD  IS "THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY & FOREVER" & "YOU" can't chg FOR IT IS WRITTEN (READ WORD)!
       
       Now whose "del

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       PlanksandNailsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       No, It does not say "God" but it says that JESUS CHRIST is the same yesterday and today and forever.(Heb 13:8)The previous verse gives the context, which is in his faithfulness. Is English your first language? I will no longer engage a babbling fool.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       P&N: How could Jesus Christ exist "yesterday" if not GOD" when JESUS SAID "I AM ALPHA & OMEGA, FIRST & LAST & IF SO, "WHERE WAS GOD" IF NOT GOD? Because "ONE SPIRIT" not 2 r 3 persons (HE has MANY GLORIES or "personalities") as u've b

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   gmwilliamsposted 8 years ago

   
   
   There are people who have a sense of spiritual anomie.  They contend that they are psychologically, even psychically adrift in this increasingly postmodern culture.  They furthermore contend that there is a strong correlation between this modernity and instability.  They yearn for the more ancient and/or more traditionally based religions which they feel will give them a strong sense of stability. 
   
   They see that these religions have a history.  They see such history and tradition as giving them comfort in these postmodern, precarious times when so much is changing.  They want something that is a bulwark and/or an anchor against such ever changing times.  They want a religion which demonstrates a high level of reliability whether it is the ancient pagan religions or a more traditional and/or orthodox form of modern religions.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      GM: Can you provide a book w/as many ACCURATE prophecies written BEFORE Bible?  I can't seem to find one and is reason why I KNOW (in addition to personal experiences) "MY GOD IS REAL!"

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      SpiritusShepherdposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      One of the things I enjoy about the Lutheran Church is that we follow traditions that are hundreds if not thousands of years old. It is good to know that these traditions have stood the test of time and also that these traditions connect us tothepast

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Kris: "...stood the test of time..."  What test?  Seen any miracles lately? Jesus did!  If not, why not @ your church? Gal 5:17 "...so that ye cannot do the things that you would." Why not?

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      SpiritusShepherdposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine, yes, I saw a miracle this Sunday actually. I watched two children be baptized into the name of Jesus Christ.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Kris: NOW THAT IS A MIRACLE considering most Lutheran's baptize according to Matt 28:19!  Diff doctrines w/in diff branches?
      
      Do they teach Jesus' Doctrine (The Gospel of Christ) which is "After the Cross?"  (Gal 1:6-9).

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      SpiritusShepherdposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      They were baptized into the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit..I thought this would be understood. I joined the LCMS because of how Christ centered they are. Everything they do points us to the work of Jesus on the cross.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Kris: Have you studied baptism? If Disciples "commanded" to baptize according to Matt 28:19, why didn't they?  Were they disobedient?  I Don't find ANYONE baptizing accordingly (Matt 28:19) in the Bible?  Why?

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      gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for selecting my answer.

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   Oztinatoposted 8 years ago

   People need religious and spiritual beliefs and practices. Its natural. Otherwise they can't fill the real existential void we experience as humans. A society without religion is a bland McCulture of gangsta chic, money, porn and hollywood gossip.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Oz: "Otherwise they can't fill the real existential void." And if not "rightly dividing" HIS WORD, His Power won't be realized & 1 moves on or back to sin!

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   peter565posted 8 years ago

   Because Christianity, seem more and more like full of crap, so people are turning back to pre Christian era religion.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Pete: YES! When an "unbeliever" who does not KNOW HOW TO EXERCISE "FAITH" for FULL revelation of Holy Spirit's POWER!  Sheep never taught to do this & therefore, "unbelievers"  can't "see" evidence of POWER "carnally!" Could be doing "miracles!"

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      peter565posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "Faith"? Only stupid people follow something blindly

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Pete: GOD said there would be "wise" people such as you!  Read Rm 1:21-32!

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   Michaela Osieckiposted 8 years ago

   I think for some, it's also a call to return to nature. Especially when we stop and look at how we're treating the planet we live on - practicing a pagan or nature based faith reconnects one with the earth and the cycles of the seasons and our place in it all.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      MO: "nature" can't save 1 but the CREATOR of nature "can!" GOD=Creator=SPIRIT & we were "created in His image" (Gen 1:27)! Therefore, we're "spirit" housed in a body who will "reconcile" to GOD (I Cor 15:24-28;44) & not "nature!"  Wrong Worsh

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   platinumOwl4posted 8 years ago

   During the time of the ancient religions, people live what they believed, there were no need for billion dollar edifices and corrupt figure heads. In a nutshell people are tired of the BS. Remember Jim Baker, Tammy Faye, Jimmy Swaggart.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Plat: God "forgives" ALL!  How about you? Let it go!  We ALL "fall" as did Peter, Judas, David, Abraham, Moses, etc.  Come on now! Who knows (But GOD) if they've confessed & repented sincerely?  Yes, some r corrupt, but not ALL!

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   johncecconposted 8 years ago

   End times prophecy. The Bible warns us that there will be a falling away from the faith, wars, famine, false prophets, disease, just to name a few. We are advised over and over in scripture that these things MUST take place as we head toward the final judgement of Revelation. It only takes a few minutes watching the news to see that these things are in fact taking place. If you look back at just the last 30 years, it's hard to deny that the human race has become more and more depraved. Acts of violence are up. Disease is up. Armed conflicts are too numerous to count. Not only are people turning to ancient religions, they are turning to things like narcissism, sex, and violence as their new gods.
   
   I was talking to a girl recently who told me that she prays to the universe. I told her that she should consider cutting out the middleman and pray directly to God since he's the one who made the universe.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Scripture WILL BE "fulfilled!"  Why it'd behoove 1 to "STUDY" & forget "tradition" & "teachings!"  STUDY for SELF asking Holy Spirit for "revelation" of HIS WORD!  ONLY way to be saved!  Consider Galatians 1:6-9!

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