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   lovetherainposted 4 years ago

   if there is a purpose for God to create humans, what might that purpose be?

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      Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      To over populate and over pollute the planet. Humans have a great brain to create many other positive purposes, but they don't use it.

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         lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Nope, wrong.

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            Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            The only purpose I can find Christains having is preparing their life to go to heaven.When we study the Bible , you know mass majority of us are going to hell.
            
            They have not concern using the brain to reverse poluting and over population. They just pray to God to clean up the planet.
            
            What can be more wrong than that?

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               lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               I am talking about GOD'S purpose for creating us. Try to focus.

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                  Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  All God wants is for everyone to worship him in exchange for your entire souls.
                  
                  My soul is everything I got.
                  I can't focus on anything else, if God owns and controls my soul.

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                     lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     Try digging a little deeper.

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                        Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        Deeper into la la land. No thanks
                        
                        The way I work, as I go deeper I understand more and more. As for the Bible understanding is Less and less til I realize it's towards the funny farm heaven carrot  and hell still. I will never be able to understand it , but you have caught your black cat.

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                           lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           I don't think I ever mentioned the Bible. You are confused.

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      Paul K Francisposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      When I think of God, I think about good things like joy and beauty, and our purpose just may be to appreciate these things and more like them, and in so doing  increase them in this world through our actions.  I also understand  that there are those who may not believe in any higher power yet still  have similar ideas concerning joy and beauty. We are all in this together. Let us keep up the good work.

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      edhanposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Personally I believe we are created to learn our mistakes and once we have realized the true meaning of life then we shall return back in the form of spiritual beings. Then we will no longer going through the cycle of life of being reborn again.

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         gmwilliamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Spot on answer.   
         
         

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            Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Reborn sounds really painful.
            
            Reverse of that is a snake swallowing an egg twice it's size.

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      jacharlessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      perhaps the most profound question, with the most simplified answer: humans were made to reflect the sum-substance called creation.
      Evidence of this is greatly suggested in the text of Genesis. The most notable element points to when humans were made, which explains the why.
      
      In here begins the real conversation, and - perhaps - finally concludes how it all went awry.

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   wildernessposted 4 years ago

   I was always taught it was to give him companionship, but that struck me as what our purpose in getting a dog, or perhaps a goldfish, is.
   
   Other possibilities might be for food, for entertainment, as an experiment (what happens if I do this and this, putting that into the mix).  Perhaps it was to fill Hell and keep Satan satisfied so as not to start trouble again.  Perhaps to aid in developing an ET species somewhere (are we the first, failed, effort?), or to prepare the planet to His specifications.  Might be a high school biology experiment during His childhood.
   
   Speculating, without any information at all, is futile but perhaps interesting.

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      lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      But we do have information. There are things we can deduce from the nature, behaviour,and form of humans. For instace, we have large brains, and intellect compared to other ani,als. we have reasoning skill. Thus, one part of the reason may include communication.

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         Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         I could go through a millions of God's names. Who is your God?, my estimate guess your God is named Yahweh.
         
         Yahweh source or guildlines of universal truth and knowledge came through a book called the Bible. If your not using the Bible. Then you are useing your imagination and cherry picking your idea of Jesus consciousness probably from your subconscious mind. At least Jesus new age is much kinder than the bronze age book. 
         
         We can all agree on is using your brain, for :You are what youThink.: If you can think of a purpose for your life, that is better than hanging around for God purpose.
         
         If Gods purpose is to blow up the planet because of our sins. Screwwwww.... that kind of God.

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            lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I didn't mention Jesus either, your atheist bias to always assume theists are christians is showing. I am not a christian, never have been.
            
            I don't know God's NAME. I have no preconcieved notions about God. I just know that he IS.

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               wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               "I have no preconcieved notions about God. I just know that he IS."
               
               I'd have to say that is a preconceived notion.  But beyond that, how do you KNOW that he IS?  If it isn't a preconceived notion, where did you get that information?

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                  lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  Personal experience.

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                     Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     You met God personalally?
                     
                     Would not the bright light kill you?

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                        lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        Yes I have.

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                           Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           Then your the first person in human history.!!

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                              lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              I'm sure I'm not.

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                                 Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                 Many Christains or what ever you call yourself. Have experience God through very heavy drugs in the hospital. Yet absolutely nobody has ever proven they have met God. People have been put into rubber rooms for less.

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                                    lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                    I'm not trying to "prove" anything. I really don't care if you don't believe in God. That's your business. Stay out of my thread unless you have something useful to contribute.

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                                       Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       Like the purpose of God.
                                       Dead end away.

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                                          lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                          "Dead end away."
                                          
                                          Not sure what that's supposed to mean.

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                                       Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       The God thing is a fairytale.
                                       
                                       No harm in enjoying fairytales and learning a few ideas.
                                       
                                       When you think the snake or donkey really talks for real, it turn into delusions and give no or little purpose.

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                           lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           Yet I see no description of the person you met.

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                              lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              Did you ask for one?

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                                 lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                 You said: I don't know God's NAME. I have no preconcieved notions about God. I just know that he IS.
                                 
                                 You know that he is, you can't stop there. You have to tell us what he is. Also, is it a he?

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                                    lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                    Why don't you find out for yourself?

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                                       lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       That's proof enough that you don't know what you are talking about. You met him, but can't describe him. How sweet.

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                                          lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                          Yes, He is a He.

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                                             lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                             What does he look like, etc? A description does not even begin at him or her from what I can tell.

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                                                lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                                Do you think God has a physical form that "looks" like anything?

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                                                   lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                                   I have no clue, but you definitely do. It is a HE. If there is no physical form what makes you say it is a HE?

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                                                      gmwilliamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                      Exactly Lobobrandon.   God isn't physical.

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                                                gmwilliamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                Please don't encourage her.  PLEASE DON'T ENCOURAGE HER.....

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                                             gmwilliamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                             WRONG YET AGAIN.  God is BEYOND gender specification.    You have proven yourself WRONG so many times.   Oh well..........

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               Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               Lovetherain your God is lost in space, maybe Dr Smith can find him for you. I think the rest of us here, do not know where your God is, or what he looks like.
               
               You have No ID for your God. Is your God a woman. Has he white with a white Beard? Was Jesus blonde and white, Could the son of God be instead black? Black can't be right because describe in the bible he has hair that of as sheep wool. Was Jesus black? No that would change the course of human history.

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                  lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  You do have sheep with white, black and brown wool. But where is it mentioned about his skin colour?

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                     Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     The Book of Revelation includes John's vision of the Son of Man: "His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass [other translations: "burnished bronze"],
                     
                     Jesus sounds more like a brown or black guy to me. Not the blonde, blue eyes German white guy, most promoted worldwide.

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                        lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        Ah this is not him as he was supposed to be on Earth. The white is meant to be he was lit up in light (light is good and dark is bad) and stuff on those lines.
                        
                        He definitely was not as portrayed.

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                           Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           Dark as related to black words have twice as negative as words about white or light. Where for me they are Yin and Yang equally as important.
                           
                           That is one reason they could surpress people of dark skin into salvery.  Our new slave is Ecocide.

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                              lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              Ecoside is not new unfortunately, the term is new, that's all.

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         wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Or the ability to be easily trained for simple tasks.  And of course we also have meat...

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         lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Many other species have communication too. Google is your friend.

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            wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Most species, right down to insects, communicate.  Even plants do.  That we cannot understand it with all our much vaunted intelligence doesn't say much for us.

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               RTalloniposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               But communication isn't language. Food for thought:
               
               https://www.dolphincommunicationproject … n-language

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                  wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  From Mirriam Webster:
                  (2) : a systematic means of communicating ideas or feelings by the use of conventionalized signs, sounds, gestures, or marks having understood meanings
                  
                  (4) : the means by which animals communicate
                  
                  (5) : a formal system of signs and symbols (such as FORTRAN or a calculus in logic) including rules for the formation and transformation of admissible expressions
                  
                  Although your link plays a game with semantics to deny that communication between living organisms is language, Mirriam Webster disagrees.  And so do I; whether spoken by a human mouth or animal, whether by gestures (sign or body language) or by chemical means, communication is possible only through a language that both participants understand.

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                     RTalloniposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     The link's article from this scientist contains many informative links to both validate what he explains and help in understanding the difference between communication and language, as well as the unique difference of human language and various kinds of communication.
                     
                     https://www.dolphincommunicationproject … n-language

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                        wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        From your link:  "This meaning and usage of the word ‘language’ deems language to be any form of communication system. In this sense, it is halfway between the linguists’ definition and the metaphorical meaning. It is a very flexible definition, as I will illustrate with the following examples: scientists sometimes use this version of ‘language’ when they say things like ‘the language of birds or ‘honey bee dance language’to describe animal communication systems. But, this meaning of language can be used to describe any kind of system that communicates something. You have C++, html and java which are ‘computer programming languages’. You have ‘body language’and even the languages of formal logic and math. And, don’t forget artificial languages like Klingon. None of these are ‘true’ languages in the sense that we discussed in the linguists’ definition of language."
                        
                        In other words he doesn't like that language can be other than human, so will define other forms as not "true" language.  As I said; semantics but little more.  Not sure you could expect much else from a linguist specializing in human communication, though.

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                           RTalloniposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           Well, he said far more than that, basing it all on research findings coming from university level studies by people who, from what it seems, wanted to discover a dolphin language as opposed to communication:
                           
                           https://www.dolphincommunicationproject … n-language
                           
                           The author speaks for an organization that has proven the integrity of its work. That they were honest about the findings and willing to see them validated or not by offering them up for other scholars to study only increases their credibility. It is one thing to not agree with all their theories, but a completely different thing to dismiss what they've discovered along with the obvious conclusions coming from the discoveries.

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                              wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              All I can say here is to go back and review the dictionary definition.  It is very clear: animals have a language, just as computers do.  The dictionary doesn't specify, but plants giving off chemicals which other plants use to modify their behavior is also "language".  I may accept, after understanding the reasons, that Pluto is no longer a planet, but not that very obvious communication between animals is not "language".  It is simple and we very seldom understand it, but it is language.  IMHO
                              
                              That a linguist doesn't like that, and wants to define it differently, doesn't have much to do with how I use the term in everyday usage to someone that is not a professional, ego centered, linguist.

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                                 RTalloniposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                 It is helpful to understand the definition of communication and language with all their nuances. The article does a great job of explaining because their studies prove out the definitions.
                                 https://www.dolphincommunicationproject … n-language

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

   The purpose is joy.
   But we do all we can to squash it.

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      Castlepalomaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Can be. The one with the most joys in life. Rather than toys in life,  wins

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   lobobrandonposted 4 years ago

   Fun thought: there is no real purpose of humans. What's the purpose of a cyclone? It emerges causes destruction and dies off, all in its own time.

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   Katanoiaposted 4 years ago

   Well, humans -as rational souls/rational animals- were created with a purpose -an end that is perfective of their nature- that is part of their nature as created beings, but I don't think that is what you are asking about. As to the question whether God in creating humans or any other part of Creation, did so for a purpose outside of Himself, or as implying that there was some necessity placed Him other than His own good pleasure, there is none. It is rather out of love for that part of creation known as humankind that God created humankind.

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