Consenting to violence; bondage, submission and dominance

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   Bovine Currencyposted 14 years ago

   I have noticed a few strange threads lately.  Oral sex?  Really?  I thought I would start this thread for those who wish to discuss something a little more interesting.  This is not a joke but don't take me for a fool, the thread will become what is becoming of all threads, and so religion is welcome, better than a gatecrash huh? 
   
   Just for the record, I love oral sex.  I have worked as a male escort for couples, I was trained as a submissive in an S&M dungeon, I.e. consenting to violence, as the thread suggests.  However, is this violence?  Are the acts I consented to, against me or an act of pleasure?  Do I own the right to argue for my own pleasure?
   
   I enjoy violence but I am not one for taking liberties.  I have been beaten and I enjoyed it.  I have beaten others, with prior consent and they enjoyed it.  Men and women have sought my heavy hands for some purpose, where their desires come from, are they any of my business?
   
   I have been chained up and I have bound others.  Ropes, hand cuffs, other activities I will not mention. 
   
   I have been paid to have sex with a man's wife and a woman's husband.  Maybe I will go to hell? 
   
   Fire away.

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      As long as there's no tithing involved.  I consider that to be sick, twisted and morally indefensible.

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         prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         what is tithing??

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            Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Being coerced into giving 10% of your income to a church.  Absolutely sick.

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               prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               oh you must give voluntarily,,,but you made me smile with that comment. now I understand....

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      starme77posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Well, ok, it takes all kinds to make the world go round I guess

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   earnestshubposted 14 years ago

   Sounds like you are a pretty broad minded person to me.
   I have no interest in anything outside pretty straight sex, but to each his own, I like your sense of freedom in posting this, so more power to you!

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      Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks earnest.
      
      Glad to be of service (get it, service).  Ah geez

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         earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         It's always good to hear about all the different things that interest others. I know as an engineer I am very kinky! If metal is first class I often say I could lick it! I explained this to a fellow engineer who recognized my passion immediately!
         We are all different I am happy to say! We speak 183 languages in my city, we have people who do all sorts of different things, but mostly we enjoy the buzz of knowing there is a different opinion and ideas with the next human encounter.
         Makes it all worthwhile!

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   Bovine Currencyposted 14 years ago

   Wow
   
   Polished metal, I dig it.
   
   The world is a really small place.  Too much focus on difference.  I refuse to be defined and whatever the individual wants to say about one or more fragments of my behaviour or historical behaviour, they really know nothing about me.  If one seeks to define by the obscure, the goal of understanding is only ever further lost.  The moment we try differentiate, we move further apart.

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   Bovine Currencyposted 14 years ago

   Come on you prudes, give me something.  Quote the bible if you want...

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   Nothing wrong with that, if it's consented.
   
   I'm not a fan of SM, and I haven't done that before in full. But you never know, in the future, what your preferences will be.
   It also depends on your partner.
   
   Anyway, a little bit of pain, brings pleasure. At least for me.

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   prettydarkhorseposted 14 years ago

   straight sex for me only, but I dont have anything against other people who likes doing it......

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   Daniel Carterposted 14 years ago

   You certainly pose some interesting questions. But from me, you'll get little of religion. For me it's about a personal moral compass and I believe that's a little different for all of us. Having grown up in abuse of all sorts, I rather want to flee from all you describe, however, great sex is not about one or two positions. I think it's different to varying degrees for all of us.
   
   The old cliché "Be careful of what you ask for [want] because you'll likely get it" may have some application here.
   
   The same argument could be used for people who have substance abuse problems who really do want to continue and not quit. It's good for them right now, they want it.
   
   The only thing I believe is that we have to follow the natural consequences of our thoughts and actions to whatever conclusions we can determine. It's usually shortsightedness that cause regret. Forget sin. I would much rather live without regret. So I look at my life occasionally from that view point: am I going to regret this later.
   
   If the answer is no, full speed ahead.

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   kirstenblogposted 14 years ago

   I find nothing offensive here so no bible quotes or anything like that
   
   I do wonder what relationship there is between say child abuse and an adult desire for more then just a cheeky spanking during sex as an adult?
   
   I am really not all that kinky, I know of people who enjoy stuff that I can't understand. Potty play stuff for instance, I don't get it but hey thats me. I do enjoy being submissive in sex and have had lots of fun with role play including some small amounts of pain from spankings etc. but I don't really think its all that kinky to be honest, its like foreplay really . I guess thats a good follow on to the original question, what makes something kinky?

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   And that's very sexual.
   i've seen those faces of pleasure when receiving !

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Pay close attention to the fronts of their robes.

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         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         INTERESTING !

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