I recently read an article that really got me thinking.
The writer was complaining about showing "fatties" on TV is disgusting. What really surprised me were most people agreed with her and proceeded to say things like:
"Being fat is a choice"
"Being fat is a dangerous lifestyle choice"
"I don't want to see that on TV"
"We are teaching kids to accept this behavior as normal, no way"
"No one is born fat, you choose to overeat"
"When a fat person dies of a heart attack it's their own fault"
“Fat people shouldn’t have children they will teach them the same unhealthy behaviors”
However, the other side said things like:
“God made me this way”
“I’ve tried to stop eating and losing the weight, but I can’t, it’s who I am”
“I was born this way”
“People should love and be tolerant of everyone… and teach children that people are different”
I could not help but notice similar arguments are made in the homosexual ‘rights’ debate.
Is this more offensive...
They allow homosexuality more on TV than obese people. More people find homosexuality disgusting and immoral. The only difference is when you mention the dangers of homosexuality, you are called a homophobe, but if mention the dangers of obesity you are simply stating the facts.
What are the facts? Let's compare the two behaviors.
Homosexuality vs. Obesity
2.9% of the population
34.3% of the population
Most homosexuals claim their desires are inborn even genetic, but to this day there still is no truly objective means of determining whether a person is innately homosexual. One cannot take a blood test or DNA test to prove that he or she is "gay." We must depend entirely upon a person's claim that his or her homosexuality is innate. Most if not all of the reserch quoted by homosexuals reak of political self-interest, that alone makes such 'evidence' wholly untrustworthy. The findings were not put through the scientific method, they were not peer reviewed and the research could not be repeated rendering the similar results.
Some obese people claim their desire to overeat and the behavior is genetic, although proven that in very rare cases a thyroid issue is to blame. From the above number less than 0.5 percent of obese persons have the thyroid issue.
Mental and Medical History
Homosexuality was once considered a mental illness because the behavior mimicked that of an addict or a reaction to a trauma. Homosexuality was showed to have occurred in people from something as simply as loneliness or to a reaction as something severe as sexual abuse. Even with the high risk of STDs, depression, extremely high rates of drug and alcohol abuse, the behavior persist and takes a life of its own, Homosexuals place their behavior as an identity which is only own in people with mental illness or substance abuse issues. These facts were never refuted, but after intense pressure from homosexual lobbying groups the APA and its sister associations removed homosexuality from the mental disorder list, citing essentially homosexuals don't feel bad about so it must be normal. Pedophilia was removed shortly after.
Obesity was first considered a sign of wealth and privilege, not until the Victorian period obesity became more of a sign of laziness and the smaller form was upheld as true beauty, self-control was the virtue. Although never considered a mental issue psychologists today are attempting to find a mental link to the behavior that is obesity.
Effects on Health
The Gay and Lesbian Medical Association. on Nov. 4, 2009, in a document titled "Top 10 Things Gay Men Should Discuss with their Healthcare Provider." (It may still be on its website.) 1) "Men who have sex with men are at an increased risk of HIV infections...The last few years have seen the return of many unsafe sex practices."2) "Sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) occur in sexually active gay men at a high rate. This includes...syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, pubic lice,...Hepatitis A, B, or C virus, Human Papilloma Virus, etc." 3) "Gay men may be at risk for death by prostate, testicular, or colon cancer.... [And there are] increased rates of anal cancers in gay men." According to a CDC report released in November 2009, 63% of syphilis cases in this country were found in homo/bisexuals in 2008. •The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75.................................... Lesbians, 1) Face a higher breast cancer risk. Another study found bacterial vaginosis occurring in 33% of the lesbians but only in 13% of heterosexual women, and found that: "Cervical cytology abnormalities were uncommon but only found in the lesbians." (Those abnormalities may be precursors to cervical cancers.) 2)Lesbians found a "relatively high prevalence of the viral STDs, herpes simplex and human papillomavirus. “In addition, according to another: "Genital HPV infection and squamous intraepithelial lesions are common among women who are sexually active with women." has been connected to cervical cancer. "DNA analysis has revealed that about 15 types of the virus account for more than 99 percent of all cervical cancer cases."(One reason lesbians have a relatively high incidence of STDs is that, as some studies have documented, lesbians have more sexual partners than heterosexual women. For example, a large University of Chicago study concluded that lesbians have four times as many sexual partners as straight women.) The Gay and Lesbian Medical Association. "Top 10 Things Lesbians Should Discuss with their Healthcare Provider." 3) "Lesbians have the richest concentration of risk factors for breast cancer than any subset of women in the world."4) "Lesbians have higher risks for many of the gynecologic cancers." It should be noted that lesbian sexual diseases have not been as researched as male homosexuality •The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79.
1) High blood pressure - This increases the workload of the heart because it must pump more blood through additional blood vessels. More circulating blood also means more pressure on the artery walls. Higher pressure on the artery walls increases the blood pressure. In addition, extra weight can raise the heart rate and reduce the body's ability to transport blood through the vessels. 2) Type 2 Diabetes - This type of diabetes usually begins in adulthood but, is now actually occurring in children. Obesity can cause resistance to insulin, the hormone that regulates blood sugar. When obesity causes insulin resistance, the blood sugar becomes elevated. obese individuals are at increased risk for type 2 diabetes; heart disease; hypertension; osteoarthritis; sleep apnea; gallbladder disease; respiratory problems; stroke; endometrial, breast, prostate and colon cancers; poor female reproductive health; and depression, among other conditions. Even moderate obesity dramatically increases the risk of diabetes. 3) Heart disease - is present 10 times more often in obese people compared to those who are not obese. Coronary artery disease is also more prevalent because fatty deposits build up in arteries that supply the heart. Narrowed arteries and reduced blood flow to the heart can cause chest pain (angina) or a heart attack. Blood clots can also form in narrowed arteries and cause a stroke. Others illness assoiciated with obesity include, sleep apnea, joint problems, cancer, and metabolic syndrome. Obesity shaves two to four years off the average lifespan, while being very obese can shorten your lifespan by 8 to 10 years,
According to the American Psychology Association Homosexuals have higher rates of major depression, generalized anxiety disorder and substance use or dependence in lesbian and gay youth. Higher rates of recurrent major depression among gay men. Higher rates of anxiety, mood and substance use disorders, and suicidal thoughts among people ages 15 to 54 with same-sex partners. Higher use of mental health services in men and women reporting same-sex partners. The article entitled "Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality", pp. 110-11 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization.
In a culture where often the ideal of physical attractiveness is to be overly thin, people who are overweight or obese frequently suffer disadvantages. Overweight and obese persons are often blamed for their condition and may be considered lazy or weak-willed. It is not uncommon for overweight or obese conditions to result in persons having lower incomes or having fewer or no romantic relationships. Disapproval of overweight persons expressed by some individuals progress to bias, discrimination, and even torment. People who are obese mental issues are directly connected to social stigma.
Cost to Society
From the Aug. 28, 2009 Washington Blade, a homosexual newspaper "Gay and bisexual men account for half of new HIV infections in the U.S. and have AIDS at a rate more than 50 times greater than other groups, according to Centers for Disease Control & Prevention data presented at the National HIV Prevention Conference. Before anyone knew much about the AIDS scourge, the virus had contaminated the blood supply and infected thousands of people. In the early 1980s, 1 out of 50 bags of blood collected in San Francisco contained HIV. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) still bans men who have had sex with other men (MSM), even one time since 1977, from donating blood. This is for the simple reason that homosexuals as a group are at increased risk for HIV, hepatitis B and other infections that can be transmitted by infusion. According to the FDA, which, by the way, is not a right-wing think tank, men who have had sex with men since 1977 have a risk of contracting HIV that is 60 times higher than the general population. Further, homosexuals are about 5-6 times more likely to be infected with the Hepatitis B virus than the general population. In the U.S., Americans are spending $12 billion a year on anti-AIDS drugs ALONE for homosexuals who voluntarily engaged in unsafe sex.
Type II Diabetes used to only affect adults, but it is now being diagnosed among young people, and obesity is thought to be connected to this significant change. The United States spent $75.1 billion last year on medical expenses, such as drugs, doctor visits and hospitalizations, related to obesity, according to a study published this month in the journal Obesity Research. Because people willingly engage in unhealthy eating and lifestyle habits
Homosexuals claim the there nothing wrong with their behavior and there is no “cure” despite ex homosexual testimony. there is plenty of evidence that homosexuality is not innate. There is a very considerable body of testimony from tens of thousands of men and women who once lived as homosexuals. These ex-"gays" have renounced their former lifestyles and many have become heterosexual in self-identification and desire, while others have stopped at the point of comfort with their own gender and freedom from same-sex desires. The "gay" movement's challenge to former homosexuals to, in essence, prove they aren't still innately "gay" is the height of absurdity since homosexual immutability was never proven in the first place.
Most obese people admit their behavior/lifestyle is dangerous and seek help. Execrise and eating right seem to work best, BUT sometimes weight loss surgey is done, but a few still gain the weight back. Many people with obesity have dangerous cycle of lose/gain throughout their lives.
Do people have the 'right' to do this
What about the arguments from homosexuals?
1) Animals do it!
Animals overeat and are obese too!
In its effort to present homosexuality as normal, the homosexual movement turned to the animal kingdom. It is poor science to "read" human motivations and sentiments into animal behavior. Irrational animal behavior is not a yardstick to determine what morally acceptable behavior is for rational man. Anyone engaged in the most elementary animal observation is forced to conclude that animal "homosexuality," "filicide" and "cannibalism" is exceptions to normal animal behavior. Consequently, they cannot be called animal instincts. These observable exceptions to normal animal behavior result from factors beyond their instincts. For some people, what animals do is a yardstick of what is and is not natural. They make a leap from saying if it is natural; it is morally and ethically desirable.
2) It is about feelings, desires, love!
What could be loving about medically dangerous behavior? Are all the effects on health because of feelings, desires or behaviors?
A person's inclination toward a form of sexual or any other conduct may not, for any number of reasons, be consciously chosen, but the mere existence of desire does not justify the act. To accept otherwise would be to validate adultery and pedophilia. Society has the right to require people to suppress harmful desires/behaviors, even if it is difficult for them to do so.
3) I have been with my partner for years. Some obese people outlive healthy people.
Homosexual men consistently report their involvement in a steady partnership while simultaneously reporting that they continue to have multiple sex partners! This kind of accepted unfaithfulness within the context of a reportedly ‘committed’ and ‘steady’ relationship is unique to the homosexual community (particularly the male homosexual community). Why is this so? Studies suggest that homosexual men consider sex outside the relationship to be normative. In fact, many homosexual males simply refuse to be monogamous because they see it as an act of oppression. One study confirmed that only 26% homosexuals believe that commitment is the most important aspect of a marital relationship. (Mary Mendola, “The Mendola Report”, New York, Crown). Researchers and homosexual advocates alike have openly discussed the attitude that many homosexuals have toward ‘monogamy’ in steady relationships:
Homosexual Writer and Activist Michelangelo Signorile “For these men the term ‘monogamy’ simply doesn't necessarily mean sexual exclusivity....The term ‘open relationship’ has for a great many gay men come to have one specific definition: A relationship in which the partners have sex on the outside often, put away their resentment and jealousy, and discuss their outside sex with each other, or share sex partners.” (Michelangelo Signorile, “Life Outside”, New York, HarperCollins, 1997)
Former Homosexual William Aaron “In the gay life, fidelity is almost impossible. Since part of the compulsion of homosexuality seems to be a need on the part of the homophile to ‘absorb’ masculinity from his sexual partners, he must be constantly on the lookout for (new sex partners). Consequently the most successful homophile ‘marriages’ are those where there is an arrangement between the two to have affairs on the side while maintaining the semblance of permanence in their living arrangement.” (William Aaron, Straight (New York: Bantam Books, 1972).
Even IF one could cite cases of homosexuals living long, 'healthy', truly monogamous lives the research shows that such people are the exception rather than the rule, and laws must be based on what usually happens, not exceptions.
For example, we should not stop warning people about the dangers of obesity just because some fat people outlive non-obese people.
If laws were based on exceptions, we would have to do away with virtually every law we have. Yes, we have abusive marriages, divorce and we have anorexia bulimia and eating disorders. HOWEVER, natural marriage and healthy lifestyle/weight as a whole, is great for society. We cannot let its exceptions prevent us from experiencing the overall benefits it produces.
Homosexuality is a sin
What if obese people took their push for acceptance the same way homosexuals did.
1. Get obesity removed from the physical disorder and health issue list. Insist obesity is inborn. Downplay and deny all health issues related to obese behavior.
2. They are no longer called fat, but jolly, Hold jolly pride parades, and walk around half-naked with endless eating contests.
3. Constantly show fat people on TV tactfully rarely show them eating, make them look smart and funny just like healthy people.
4. Portray people who oppose their behavior as bigots, food Nazi and fatophobics, and pass law to punish the opposition with hate speech laws
5. Demand that school promote their behavior as normal, good and acceptable. Jolly youth should be encouraged to be jolly and love themselves as they are.
*Something else to think about
Is bullying a behavior or is it who they are? It is a choice, learned or are some people born that way?
What would homosexual activist say if a bully claimed a genetic predisposition to anger. Does that justify his verbal bullying? Maybe the bully is really a victim and needs tolerance and acceptance from everyone, and if you disapprove of their behaviors, you are a bigot.
Which behavior group is bullied more? Obese kids, no real battle cry for them though, I guess they deserve it?
This is the ideal
Although we are the majority, this is still the exception
This is the Ideal
Altough vocal, this is still the exception
What would happen if every player got MVP regardless of performance? Alternatively, every actor in every movie got an Oscar? It would become meaningless, that is what happened of European countries and promote homosexuality. Could the same be true if there was no ideal health and lifestyle?
A healthy lifestyle/weight and natural marriage and is ideal that is why the government promotes and encourages it, homosexual and obese behavior is the opposite. There are times when it is important to promote the ‘ideal’, but government has to be careful not to punish the ‘non-ideal’. There are certain benefits and recognitions that the government offers traditional married couples in an effort to affirm and encourage the very institution that lies at the foundation of our society.
"Those of us who argue that natural marriage and healthy lifestyle/weight should be encouraged and promoted are NOT saying that non-natural family units should be prohibited or punished. Each and every one of us has been created in the image of God, and each of us should be afforded the same human dignity that this reality demands. However, our society must continue to recognize and encourage the formation of natural marriages/families and good physical health. This bold statement is not the result of a religious conviction; it is simply the result of a close examination of all the data from history, science, and common sense."