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Robin Williams, Drug Rehab Failures, and Kratom

Updated on August 15, 2014

Making Sense of the Failure of Professional Drug & Alcohol Rehab

The apparent suicide death of actor Robin Williams, his less-than-successful rehabilitation for long-term drug and alcohol problems, and my recent involvement as the embedded commentator of the Do-It-Yourself drug rehab successes using the herbal catalyst, kratom, led me to write this Hub

I have been privileged to witness the birth of the "Do-It-Yourself drug rehab industry", so I thought I would take a moment to let you have a peek at what is going on.

My own experiences of intermittent severe depression add a personal dimension of understanding of the root causes of alcohol and drug abuse. Seeing the failures of psychiatry to deal with depression successfully has led me and many others to search for a natural remedy.

Though I never met Mr. Williams, I am well aware of the internal forces that drive a depressed person to seek relief in drugs, such as cocaine and alcohol. Though tempting, these substances are two of the worst choices for those seeking respite from depression.

I realize this Hub may ruffle some feathers of those who are the established professionals of drug rehabilitation, but I am simply reporting the facts I see and the failings of the old system, which led dissatisfied patients to take their condition into their own hands.

This article, from the Washington Post will give you some well-researched confirmation of the professional drug rehab failures that are daily being reported to me. Please read it before you continue.

The shortcomings of the established system of drug addiction rehabilitation are brought about in part by prescription drugs (Subutex, Suboxone, Methadone) that -- from what I hear -- are even more addictive than the heroin and prescription painkillers they are meant to replace. This would seem to guarantee that the patient will stay "stuck" in treatment indefinitely.

This technique of substituting one addictive drug for another, coupled with the costs, laid the groundwork for the "creative destruction" of the failed drug rehab system.

When Things Aren't Working, It's Time to Replace Them

This new D-I-Y method of recovery from addiction, using the herb kratom from Southeast Asia as a catalyst for both drug and alcohol withdrawal/cessation deserves to be heralded for its successes.

Instead of congratulating their former patients on the success of a low-cost, at-home rehab D-I-Y program, the herb kratom is being attacked by officials of the failed in-patient rehab facilities.

Well, What Did I Expect? A Miracle?

Losers should be "good sports", we used to be taught as children, though -- as adults -- we've learned that when money is involved, this is often not the case.

Rather than answer for their public failures, the drug rehab industry -- and the pharmaceutical industry that stands behind them? -- have adopted the tactic of changing the subject of discussion, rather than acknowledge their mistakes.

They have chosen to attack at every opportunity the herb that is indirectly hastening their profession's radical downsizing.

It is beyond the scope of this Hub to delve into how and why kratom works and why the best efforts of psychiatry usually don't. My purpose here is to announce the arrival and successes of a new methodology before we lose another gifted victim to the flawed chemical warfare methods of modern drug rehab.

Actually, come to think of it, the D-I-Y drug rehab movement is a very old human methodology, based on the use of herbs and a community of loving support for the addicted person.

Kratom has been used for this exact purpose traditionally to help people break their addiction to opium without having to endure an extended, painful withdrawal. This traditional use has merely immigrated to many of the countries of the world, creating a booming new sustainable industry in third-world countries that are wise enough to allow it.

But that, too, is another story for another day.

Kratom Studied As Opiate Suppressor

Kratom, the D-I-Y Drug Rehab Catalyst


Losers Fight Hard

Society should welcome the birth of D-I-Y Rehab instead of siding with the highly-paid high priests who are producing such dismal results.

After all, society is paying for this ineffective system of care that works so well that patients commit suicide to get away from it. Even psychiatrists kill themselves at a rate 2 to 3 times greater than the average citizen.

Unfortunately, where there is a lot of money involved, those on the losing end of change will fight like wounded wild animals to preserve their lifestyle.

Like our entire medical system, when it treats chronic and even infectious disease, the drug rehab professionals have been draining our society of resources that could be better used elsewhere -- and, they aren't about to quit.

Drug addiction rehab personnel charge a lot for their knowledge and supposed wisdom, but their knowledge is securely tied to a flawed system of selling us patented, synthesized, single-ingredient drugs derived from complex, naturally-buffered herbs. (Though, in this case, the herb works better, the professionals are tied to pharmaceutical near-copies of the alkaloid active ingredients in herbs because they can own the income stream.)

In simple terms -- Money Is Driving the Choice of the Way the Addict Is Rehabilitated, Not Patient Satisfaction or Positive Results

It has been the source of a good living for those who put up with a boring and depressing -- and ultimately pointless -- education in human psychology that doesn't produce results in the real world, but now their fine income will be drawing to an end. Their self-proclaimed superior knowledge will bow to the economic reality that they have priced their services, which yield poor results, out of the reach of those who need them.

My dear Rehab Professionals, you have been upstaged by a humble herb used for the purpose of drug rehab for perhaps a thousand years in Southeast Asia. It is time to pack your bags and find something else to do with your degree.

It seems to me that people suffering from drug or alcohol addiction do not have a deficiency in the drugs that you give them. The suffer from a deficiency of human interaction with people who care about their welfare. People who we must pay to listen to our problems don't count.

Those of us who suffer from occasional or chronic depression -- and alcoholism, as a result -- also have nutrient deficiencies and food allergies which are obviously not being addressed by conventional psychiatric protocols. These deficiencies are at the heart of the problems, but -- of course -- they aren't seriously considered because they are natural substances and can't be patented (a recurring theme behind the failures of our medical and psychological systems of treatment).

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Kratom Could Have Helped Robin Williams, If He Had Known

Still depressed, still addicted, your poster boys and girls are committing suicide as a testimony to your failures, you mighty rehab professionals.

Of course, you can easily blame the victim, but when a competing technology can do a better long-term job when run by amateurs, you might as well accept the inevitable and find something else to do.

You can ask your friends in the government, who love money-losing projects, to give your industry a bailout, but the cat is out of the bag and the genie is out of the bottle. The word is out on the street and society is tiring of paying for your efforts to pound round pegs into square holes -- and usually failing.

Give it up. Accept the facts. Find some other area of society in which to practice your outmoded chicanery, however well-intended. Those who have been through your flawed system -- some, for numerous visits -- have found a better way, the kratom way.

As a stopgap measure, rehab pro's might market their services to those trying to break their dependence on a myriad of other products to which Big Pharma has shackled our population. Nevertheless, it is only a matter of time before the old, tried-and-true herbal and nutritional remedies will make your services redundant.

Your services are no longer needed. You have been under-bid by a superior low-tech/high-touch methodology. Society has a depression problem, which has only grown on your watch and is no longer affordable, and never was very effective.

The recent suicide of the brilliant and beloved comedian Robin Williams is only the latest of the many individuals whose deaths should remind us that the modern way of going to a counselor -- who is probably depressed himself -- and being prescribed drugs that do little but worsen the problem, isn't working.

Kratom combined with peer sharing of experiences and emotional support is working. What you've been offering, Mr. Rehab Pro, is not so hot. Instead of treating this herb as a new, scary problem, why not accept the facts and get with the program -- the kratom and online peer-support program.

I'm sure that Robin Williams had access to the best professional depression and addiction counselors, but they still didn't have the answers to ease his pain. He, and many others, are entrusting their future to folks who don't know the answers. They don't even have a good temporary remedy that might have let Mr. Williams live long enough to find the true answers for his depression, which my doctor tells me are multiple nutrient deficiencies.

From what I've seen and experienced, kratom -- in my thoroughly non-professional opinion -- is a better emotional painkiller and anxiolytic remedy, but it is not the whole answer. The complete answer to depression and alcohol and drug addiction is to correct nutritional deficiencies and food allergies, according to the famous Dr. Joel Wallach, a Veterinarian and Naturopathic Doctor. You can read his simple prescriptions for both alcoholism and depression in the book Let's Play Doctor.

Another volume that helped me tremendously was The Depression Cure by Stephen Ilardi, PhD.

"Suicide Is a Permanent Solution for a Temporary Problem" -- Author Unknown

I don't claim to know Robin Williams' motivations for taking his own life, but I do wish he could have learned of and tried the anonymous peer counseling route online -- catalyzed by kratom -- that is creating so many success stories.

I can only surmise how kratom works to facilitate strangers' lowering their defenses, taking an objective look at how they can solve life's difficulties, and maintaining their new relaxed attitude even when they stop using the herb.

Nevertheless, I've seen it work and I believe it.

Kratom is not the whole solution, but it can "buy time" for sufferers long enough to sort their lives out and make some constructive changes. It is definitely effective for breaking the bonds of addiction -- and those who have done this, myself included, have no desire to go back.

Key Points

  • Actor/Comedian Robin Williams' suicide is evidence of the failure of conventional alcohol addiction rehab and depression treatment methods
  • Amateur former addicts are helping each other learn how the herb kratom can be used to break the bonds of opioid and alcohol addiction.
  • Severe acute and chronic depression is also being eased with kratom
  • Anxiety, Panic Attacks, and many common sources of pain are also being helped by kratom
  • An estimated 500,000+ Americans are using kratom to reduce dependence of prescription and illicit drugs -- and living happier, healthier lives
  • The vast majority of kratom users are middle-aged adults using the herb for medicinal reasons, not reckless pursuit of euphoria
  • Plain kratom leaf has little potential for abuse
  • High-priced Addiction Rehab clinics produce lousy results; Kratom works long-term!


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    • Paul Kemp profile imageAUTHOR

      Paul Kemp 

      3 years ago

      Thank you, Mihnea. I have been studying herbs and using them for medicine and personal growth for 48 years. There is much more to learn, but I believe they are generally safer and, in many cases, more effective than pharmaceutical drugs.

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      Mihnea-Andrei Andreescu 

      3 years ago from Tilburg

      Wow you seem to be very aquainted and knowleadgeable with plants.My girlfriend has a pharmacy degree and she too read this hub and found it very interesting.

    • Paul Kemp profile imageAUTHOR

      Paul Kemp 

      4 years ago

      Thank you, Brenda, and congratulations on having the courage and wisdom to find a natural solution to the source of your pain. You and others like you are the reason I write about this amazing herb. Accepting the standard treatments, when -- with a little study -- you see they are clueless and profit-driven, would be foolish, so you seek out a natural way. Conventional medical care for chronic disease only seems to make things worse by throwing multiple drugs at the problem, while ignoring the nutritional support of our immune system. Naturopaths have a better grasp of the Big Picture of health, I agree. I appreciate your inspiring comment.

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      Brenda Barber 

      4 years ago

      I would like to share my story about how I came to use Kratom. I recently found out I have Lyme disease. This in itself is a nightmare as the mainstream medical cartel are trying to sweep this illness under the carpet. Watch the documentary "Under our skin". Anyway, to get to the point, Lyme causes considerable pain in every part of your body. The pain in my legs was excruciating and Tylenol was only effective for a short while and I knew I couldn't use it long term as it would damage my stomach. I googled natural pain killers, and Kratom came up in the search. I thoroughly researched it and was convinced it was safe so I ordered some from a reputable vendor. Not only did it alleviate the pain, but I noticed that I had a happier disposition and it helped me get on with my day. I am so thankful for natural remedies. I should also mention that I sought the help of a reputable Naturopath to help with the Lyme as well. I am taking MMS (Master Mineral Solution) to combat the Lyme bacteria with great success and Kratom for pain relief. Just to be clear, I have gone days without the need for Kratom, so it's not addictive like some would have you believe. It was an answer to my prayers. Cheers!

    • Paul Kemp profile imageAUTHOR

      Paul Kemp 

      4 years ago

      Thanks, Paul S. I noticed years ago that just about every legal psychoactive drug on the U.S. market is ultimately fatal or has a lethal dose: Cigarettes, coffee, alcohol, Rx painkillers, etc. The illegal ones, like cannabis and kratom are not fatal at any achievable dose by normal means. So, who's protecting the public? The FDA is just running a protection service to guard the market of licensed vendors of various poisons -- and it can and does harass their competitors.

      I agree that kids don't need caffeine. For some reason, my father started me on coffee diluted w/ milk and sugar when I was 7, perhaps to spur my success w/ my studies and it has stuck with me. I don't know that it hurt me, although the sugar is a big problem in Mtn. Dew, etc. People should have freedom to have most things, BUT they need accurate warnings and not advertising BS to guide them. Frankly, we have a lot of re-educating the public in how to intelligently use herbs and take responsibility to study the real proven effects, before they are ready for full freedom. We are to used to trusting our MD's recommendation or the ads on TV, which are just sales pitches. I appreciate your pertinent comments, sir.

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      Paul S. 

      4 years ago

      The fact is that as long as cigarettes are allowed to remain legal, the government has no business scheduling anything but the most dangerous of substances such as bath salts. In my opinion caffeinated beverages and Kratom should both be 18+. Kids should not be able to drink Mountain Dew all day either. Over the counter antihistamines for instance are also very addictive and have terrible withdrawal symptoms if you use them daily or in excess, as just one other example of something else that should be sold to adults only but not banned.

    • Paul Kemp profile imageAUTHOR

      Paul Kemp 

      4 years ago

      Thanks for your comment, Paul S. I agree. Young people seem to need to explore new states of consciousness in order to learn who they are. Along with the freedom to explore these regions of our mind, comes the responsibility to learn what we're getting into and how to stay safe. When our society automatically tries to ban substances that are generally harmless, kids will seek out other avenues to change their mental state, such as household solvents or breathing dust-off or brain-damaging airplane glue. We should know by now that Prohibitions don't work, but the underlying message with this sad story about a mother losing her son appears to be that kratom should not be legal. As if a lawmaker somewhere can wave a magic wand to make kratom unavailable in their state. A better strategy is to teach children and young adults how to intelligently use psychoactive herbs (if they choose), so they will know they need to place limits on their consumption, etc. When we ban substances, some young people use them anyway -- without any guidance -- and trouble often ensues. Banning kratom would penalize and deprive those who have learned to use the herb for their benefit in a futile attempt to protect the ignorant who are determined to use it anyway.

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      Paul S. 

      4 years ago

      Teens have committed suicide because access to their boyfriend or girlfriend was cut off or because they were no longer allowed to play World of Warcraft. Even if this account is true, it does not mean that World of Warcraft should be banned for instance. Addictive personalities will always find something to abuse and self medicate. There are plenty of lives destroyed by alcohol abuse, but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't be allowed to have a glass of wine with dinner.

    • Paul Kemp profile imageAUTHOR

      Paul Kemp 

      4 years ago

      Thanks, Gaynelle, for bringing up this tragic case. Your comment about what sounds like the Ian Mautner suicide raises many interesting points that our society should consider.

      The first unanswered question about Ian Mautner's suicide is: What other drugs, both prescribed and illicit, were being used by this young man? Kids now get their start in grade school on Ritalin and Adderall, then various sleeping pills might be added. These could have a powerful effect on the person's emotional state. However, we never hear the pharmaceutical industry indicted on TV news for providing our children the equivalent of long-acting cocaine, especially now when they please their family by maintaining straight-A report cards.

      There is also the possibility that Mr. Mautner was taking antidepressants, which we aren't being told. These drugs plainly carry the warning that "in rare cases" they may cause impulsivity, thoughts of suicide, and actions to that end. This was not examined in the superficial TV news coverage.

      I am daily in contact with members of the kratom community, many of whom have been addicts to heroin and pharmaceutical equivalents. I have never heard of anyone using kratom feeling compelled to commit suicide. Likewise, I have heard no reports of kratom's fans stealing from friends and family to support their desire for the improved mood and relieved aches & pains that kratom provides. I have heard comments of people, reluctant to go back to prescription pain meds, simply do without if they can't afford kratom.

      The most glaring anomaly of the reporting of the Ian Mautner suicide is

      that Ian's personal responsibility to monitor his kratom use and reduce it, if it seems he is abusing it, is not mentioned. His mother is aware of his infatuation with this benign substance, but we hear little or nothing about her admonishments that he must not let it take over his life.

      To my mind, this tragic story says more about the way American society has changed in recent years, due in part to letting televised news become our conscience, telling us what is socially-approved and what is not. Blame is not placed on young Ian Mautner for stealing from a family member. It is not his fault -- we are asked to believe that the all-powerful Kratom made him do it.

      There is no disapproval -- as there would have been when I was growing up -- for the young, apparently school-smart Ian's lack of self-control or morality in stealing to support a habit that he created for himself.

      What is truly sad here is that this young man, with so much going for him, didn't receive some basic instructions about a code of behavior by which he should guide his actions: "Thou shalt not steal."

      His behavior is excused. He didn't make a rash decision to kill himself rather than correct his actions and make amends -- we are asked to believe the leaf from a tree MADE him do it. This line of reasoning is ludicrous, when we consider it.

      I can't recall ever hearing a case where a judge forgave a bank robber whose defense was that heroin made him rob banks to support his habit. Yet, by committing the modern equivalent of harikiri, young Ian Mautner is absolved of his wrongs and all the blame for his actions are placed -- in this TV morality play -- on the leaves of this tree.

      Thanks, Gaynelle, for bringing up this new absurdity of modern life in America. I regret that this promising young man chose to kill himself, but I'd like to see a thorough toxicology report and hear what else might have caused him to commit suicide. I, and many others, are unwilling to buy the conclusions the TV spin-meisters expect us to accept.

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      4 years ago

      Funny, I am friends with a grieving mother whose son jumped to his death off an interstate overpass last month. He had relapsed, and had been confronted for stealing a substantial amount of money from a relative to support a $60/day habit. His last words to his family were "I can't live like this anymore." The drug of choice KRATOM. Ever wonder why so many supposedly recovering addicts hang out at the kava bars? Ever wonder why the reputable sober homes won't allow residents to hang out at Kava bars? Ever wonder why people use kratom trying to get off pain pills? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to make an educated guess that it's because Kratom affects the opioid receptors in the brain. Just because something occurs in nature doesn't mean it is harmless. Remember, opium comes from a plant, too.

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      arifur zaman 

      4 years ago

      A good informative hub..............

    • Paul Kemp profile imageAUTHOR

      Paul Kemp 

      4 years ago

      Hi, Miniplicity: If you give me your mailing address, your phone number, I will send you a CD of a recorded lecture by my doctor with the reasons why we feeling like something's missing (It is!), an overview of what we are genetically capable of, and how we can attain it. You don't need to return it , but I want you to promise to listen to it and let me call you in a week or so to see what you liked best about it. Fair enough? I think you'll find it fascinating and you'll learn why Americans are having so many health problems.

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      4 years ago

      I have struggled with depression since I was an adolescent, and, thanks to kratom, I have been free of pharmaceutical antidepressant medications (as well as narcotic pain medication) for over two years. That said, I still am missing something, and your statements about nutrients and mental/physical health is intriguing. Is there any place I can get more information in lieu of purchasing this book? Unfortunately, I don't have $20 to spend right now (yes, it's sad, but we are a paycheck-to-paycheck family and we are behind on everything) but I would really like to learn more. Thanks in advance.

    • Paul Kemp profile imageAUTHOR

      Paul Kemp 

      4 years ago

      Thanks for your powerful story, LuckyDavid. Putting someone in a straightjacket, either a real one or a pharmaceutical one is the most cruel and unproductive way of "helping" a person. I feel for you.

      I'm glad you found your own way out of the darkness and into the light of nature's healthy remedies for our pains, mental/emotional/physical.

      Just a note about ibogaine, it is essential to have professional assistance in using it. I have been warned about this, so I pass it along. Of course, you won't find open-minded pro help at a Rehab Center, you need a trained shaman.

      But really, the key to breaking addiction is giving your body the nutrients it needs to be healthy. MDs and psychiatrists know nothing about nutrition, nor do most dieticians. I get my medical advice from the world's leading Naturopathic Doctor and it works. Kratom is a good bridge to help anyone change their habitual diet and get on the path back to mental/physical health. Kratom is only the start of the journey -- it's not the destination. Fix the cause of addiction, which is ultimately a mineral and vitamin deficiency, according to my doctor. Get the whole package of health and kratom is just the icing on the cake.

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      Lucky David 

      4 years ago

      I learned about speciosa in a rehab from my roommate at that time who was 18 years old. When we asked the staff at the Hanley center in S Florida we are told that is was a very addicting opiate and should stay far away from it. They then proceeded to give me methadone for six weeks along with adavan to calm me. I was awake for 12 days straight and ended up in the acute mental ward in North Palm Beach Hospital for over a week. The methadone was not enough to keep my body from going into shock. I was in a mental ward and could not communicate with the world and it was scary. They had a plan to heavily medicate me with some very serious new psych medications permantly. After more than two weeks I was able to tell these people that in fact I was not crazy I just needed to be treated without sooo many drugs. I eventually got back to my rehab and out of the psych ward and tapered off methadone. When I was released the very first thing I did after two months of hell was went straight to my stash of pain meds OXYCONTYN. There was nothing I could do to stop myself. Not the thought of my wife and daughter not anything. I ended up back in rehab after 1 day out. After the second round of hell I went against everything that they had taught me and started using kratom and other herbs regularly. I clearly had a problem and now I had found a solution. When I first tried kratom was the first time I had felt normal and happy in over twelve years. It did not make me high but in fact just made me happy and feel alert as if my brain was operating again. It was night and day difference in my life. Within a short few days I had really turned a new corner and had found again what my purpose here on Earth is. What a great feeling to come out of a cloud and know exactly why I went through hell and what it all meant. Since that day kratom has changed my life and solo many others around. I have two healthy girls and loving wife who stuck by my side. Now I want to share my story and share speciosa with the world.

      Kratom may have been able to give Robin Williams the happiness and sobriety that he needed to go on living but we will never know. Rehabilitation enters have the responsibility to be more open minded to such herbal cures for addiction. Along with kratom there is also many other ways to combat addiction successfully such as ibogane.

    • Paul Kemp profile imageAUTHOR

      Paul Kemp 

      4 years ago

      One avenue I neglected to explore was that antidepressants sometimes make patients want to kill themselves. Was Robin Williams on antidepressants? It seems likely. Connect the dots, folks.


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