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The Dangers From Smoking Fake Marijuana

Updated on October 12, 2015

Smoking Fake Marijuana Can Really Kill You.

Do you think just because you can buy " Fake Marijuana" in any corner store, gas station or tobacco shop, and on the internet, that it is safe to use? Well think again. I wanted to write about this subject, because I found out a very dear friend of mine is smoking this Fake Marijuana. I knew it could not be a good thing when he is always coughing his head off. He is coughing worse than someone that smokes cigarettes. And I know because I smoke cigarettes.

Then I saw a news segment on Time Warner Cable News and it confirmed my suspicions. I told my friend about the dangers of smoking this fake marijuana, but it did no good. I think this stuff looks like catnip, and comes in flavors that smell like incense. I did not try this stuff. My friend was showed it to me, then he smoked some, and the smell even though it does resemble incense made me cough, and I had a hard time breathing. Keep in mind I did not smoke any of this junk. And I never would. Why would I want to?

So lets talk about this Fake Marijuana, also known as Spice. ( As well as other street names)

This nasty stuff is marketed legally as an Herbal Incense, and as being 100% organic herbs. The label says not for "human consumption." This is how they can sell it legally. This product was first introduced in 2002. The technical name for this is K-2, and it was first created in the mid 90's by a chemist named John W. Huffman. It is also known by JWH-018 ( which is his initials) And apparently this stuff was being sold in China & Korea as a plant growth stimulant. This is how the chemist recalled learning about the K2 compound. There is the possibility this stuff was first smoked in Europe. You can get really high on it,and it is about 10 x's more active than THC, which is the active ingredient in real marijuana. And you can smoke a lot less of the K2 and get just as high from it.

The K-2 acts just like weed, and you would expect to see the same effects, which would include relaxation, reduced blood pressure and sleepiness. Though in high doses can cause hallucinations and delusions. This is a very dangerous drug. There are other symptoms , such as blood pressure that is dangerously elevated, vomiting and pale skin. This means the K-2 is affecting the Cardiovascular system. It will affect the central nervous system, and will cause severe potentially life threatening hallucinations. There could even be seizures in some cases. The K-2 has never been tested on humans and could very well have toxic effects. It has been tested on mice however, and when the experiment was over with, the mice were euthanized. So it was not proven how it affected the mice in the long term. The drug is unregulated , so we don't know what else this drug can be contaminated with.

There are so many sad stories out there about this Fake Marijuana , and it is not funny. Why are people not paying attention? For one thing, there is not enough out there in the Media about this subject. Yes you can find it online, but the people smoking this stuff are not reading about the bad side effects of this very harmful and dangerous drug. We all hear about smoking and alcohol, but not K-2. There needs to be more awareness about this. We don't want our younger kids turning to this as a way to trick parents. They could just sit in their room and smoke it, and tell you they are burning incense because they like the smell. It used to be you burned incense to cover the smell of weed. There are also other factors in regards to why people smoke this stuff. They may hold a job that require drug tests, or they are on probation or parole. These people will get random drug testing. So they are looking for another way to get their "High On". In respect and no offence to anyone, but nowadays nobody has a private life.

There are many horrific stories out there about what this terrible junk can do to a person. In Dallas there were three teenage boys who suffered heart attacks, after smoking the Fake Marijuana for a few weeks. All the boys did recover from this, lucky for them. Texas banned the K-2. In another case a 13 year old boy from Pittsburgh Pennsylvania had underwent a double lung transplant after his lungs had collapsed from smoking the Fake Marijuana, and he had smoked it out of a homemade pipe made out of a Pez candy dispenser, and he died from an infection. He became ill after smoking the fake weed. He had complained of numbness in his hands and feet. He could not breathe and he was vomiting blood. There were severe chemical burns in his collapsed lungs.

Now here is a horrific story for you to think about. A guy in Texas faced felony charges after he bit, killed and ate his roommates dog while he was high on "Spice". He took spaniel mix out to the porch, where he beat and strangled the poor dog, and then he began chewing "hunks of flesh" from the dog. The roommate called the police, and told them the guy was "going crazy". The police arrived at the home and found the guy sitting on the porch with "blood and fur around his mouth" and the dead dog on his lap. The roommate told police the guy was "on a bad trip" right before the awful incident happened.

These are just a few examples of what this legal incense type of drug can do to a person. This is a true story, as it was on ABC News. Also the show 20/20 did an investigation which aired in 2011, and found spice and bath salts being sold to teenagers all across the country. Many of these kids were showing up at drug treatment centers, and according to Louisiana Poison Control Center " they think they are dying". They will experience extreme paranoia, and they are having hallucinations. They are seeing things, and hear things, aliens, demons and monsters.

There have also been reports in the Albany NY area, where I live, though Thank God none of the people involved have died. I see over in New Jersey, That Fake Marijuana is now a real crime. According to the state Attorney General Jeffrey Chiesa. He has announced a full ban on this synthetic drug, New Jersey became the 4th state to criminalize any variation of the chemicals. This is now a 3rd degree crime. A person can get 3 to 5 years in prison, and as much as $25,000 in fines. Over in Denver: Police stepped up operations to try an rid their city of this terrible drug. They had confiscated boxes of the fake weed, which they believe was being sold to teens. The bust was less than 500 feet from the high school. The target was high school kids. How sad. They seized 1,000 packets of "fake weed", and it has a street value of around $20,000.

This I hope is only the tip of the Iceberg in getting this horrible, yet legal drug off the streets. I have 5 grandkids, and they range in age from 16, down to 2 years old. I don't ever want them to be able to get their hands on anything like this. We need to put an end to this. The crazy money grubbing manufactures out to make a quick buck, at the expense of the unsuspecting and gullible, yet stupid public people. No offense here folks. We have to know though, you can't buy something like this in a store, and not know it won't harm your health. After all the label does say " Not For Human consumption". Here is a clue, right?

Let us just get this horrible "Fake Marijuana" off the Streets!!

Update: I am so happy to hear that the Law makers are really trying to get this nasty stuff out of the stores, and off the street. And there will be stiff penalties for those caught selling this stuff, and using it as well.

Recent Update : As Of July 2015. I just heard first hand, from someone that I know personally this Fake Marijuana is being smuggled into the prisons by visitors. I'm sure if all involved could face serious charges if caught bringing the stuff into prisons. Not only is it being brought in, it is being sold to other inmates for profit.


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      ....... 2 years ago

      Hello.. I was just reading this and i have experienced a TERRRIBLE trip on this nasty drug, on my 3rd hit of this spice i go to pass the pipe and it hits me, BAM. So i went to sit down on the stairs ans i knew right then and there i was gonna have a bad trip. Well than i started seeing "blocks" and everything had a tint of yellow while moving back and forth, left, right, left, right. I honestly rhought i was gonna die, either that or get sent to an insaine asylum. Thirteen at the time (my B-Day), so those thoughts going throught my head i started crying.... My sister went and got my mom and she started talking to me (witch was the one thing that i needed the most) and it started going away, little by little. She stopped talking and went inside, than i thought it was coming back, my mom came back outside, helped me into my sisters room and layes me on the couch, saying its only a 15 minute thing but it went on for hours. Me crying and being trapped in my mind finally went to sleep (thank god) i woke up and was relived. Please everyone that read this DO NOT EVER consume this "spice" you WILL regret it.

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      Helli 2 years ago

      Yes, Lucy, I hope so too!

      I suspect that this devilish synthetic curse was funded and deliberately created by people who want to destroy this world and in the process to inflict as much misery and suffering on their fellow human beings as possible.

      I think that it's chemistry is based on some clandestine military programs otherwise that artificial evil shit wouldn't be light years away in it's armful affects on psyche even from the hardest drugs like heroin, meth and crack).

      I admire people like you who are trying to make some difference in the world and you are doing great and noble job!

      P.S. However, I think that your blog/forum page should be closed for scum-bags who try to use it as advertising platform for selling "spices" and their posts with web and email addressees deleted...

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      Bonny OBrien 2 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      Thank you so much for sharing with us Heli.I hope someday this crap will be gone for good.

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      Helli 2 years ago

      One of the most horrifying and degrading experience I have ever had.

      No human have to experience such a terror I've had under the influence of this evil and cruel shit. I was terrified beyond anything I could predict. Pure HELL! It caused Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. It took several months to get back to normal me...

      I'm not a stranger to THC. Tried LCD once, speed couple of times and have had MDMA 3-4 times. Nothing comes even remotely close to that horrible spice-crap! It is mind-boggling that I was able to get that substance in my local tobacconist in Sydney. Thanks God it is illegal now in Australia and has been banned...

      My honest and good advice to anybody - DON'T even touch it!

      Smoke pot if you need to get away from some shitty reality if you need. Its good for you by the way...

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      siberjam 2 years ago

      herbal incens guru is a medecine http://herbalincense.guru/

      you may visit this link.

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      Melissa 3 years ago

      I don't know what is in these blends. But the honest truth it that we are better off smoking crack than this stuff. At least crack has predictable results. There are no long term tests on this stuff, as a nation we are in the dark about it. Tell everyone you know how dangerous it is.

      I believe the blends are mixed with large amounts of nicotine (LARGE) and various chemicals to make them very addictive.

      The people who created it are evil. This is not pot or anything like it. If you want to smoke pot do it, but please don't give these bastards your money, sanity and health.

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      Jbyrdgon 3 years ago

      Ok here goes my story been smoking fake since 09 I got caught with fake they sent that shit to the lab boom I'm fucked results say its mixed with meth sound dumb right well this happened in Feburary 2014 cops came looking for me I have a warrent for my arrest and I'm on probation came as controlled substance man I hope this will save someone but I'll leave it in Gods hands as long as change is on the rise

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      chris 3 years ago

      i have spice for sale 343 Jones fork road Steele ky. 41566

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      Anon 3 years ago

      Legalize POT damnit. It's natural and no one has ever died from it.

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      Bonny OBrien 3 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      A4 that was a very moving video. Thanks for sharing, hopefully it could help someone else.

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      A4 3 years ago

      I overdosed on Neutronium and it made me stop smoking that stuff all together for good. I made a song re-creating it the best I could to help wake people up before it kills somebody or leaves them with other serious injuries. I hope my music video helps save atleast 1 life from this deadly stuff....A4....

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zatTkoBwZO8

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      M8 3 years ago

      Ummm... you do know the kid who died after smoking it out of a homemade pez candy pipe probably died from the chemical burns from the pez dispenser melting?

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      Trampis Heble 3 years ago

      A young lady I love very much is smoking bizzaro I have try every thing to keep this shit away from her but there is now a new man in her life that continues to supply this shit for her. I see the effects of substance and am afraid this shit will kill her. I will know who to blame I hope the law inforcement around her will to.

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      Bonny OBrien 3 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      My heart goes out to you Lori. I hope he can get off this crap.

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      lori 3 years ago

      My boyfriend started smoking k2. He stays so sick coughing his head off. Throwing up when he is out. Going threw horrible with draws.he has crazy anger issues when he runs Out of K2 .please dont smoke this stuff an pray for ppl that do.

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      Brody 3 years ago

      I'm 16 spice was the first drug I had ever tried. I was in 8th grade when I tried it and it made me hallucinate I probably smoked it a good 5 or 6 times and it did the same thing over and over so I quit. I stayed drug free untill id say half way through my freshman year and I started smoking real weed. I love weed and I love the way it makes me feel I think I am a much more aware fun outgoing and loving person when I'm high off marijuana. I promised myself I would never smoke spice again but my good friend I met( a year older than me) when I was a freshman just got out if Juvy this year on September 26.(I'm a sophomore now) That very same day he got out I rode with him to Hobbs nm (I live in Texas 30 min away from Hobbs) and he bought spice I dident want to smoke it because I new my body rejected it but I wound up taking a small small hit and I did get high but I dident trip out like I used to. I would still only smoke weed but if spice was their I would smoke it as well. As time went by I would say in mid October I began to only want spice I would still smoke weed but I would have rather smoked spice. Little did I know it was changing me drastically. On November 22 I ran away from home and I was gone for 2 days before I got arrested. Before I snuck out and left I had smoked spice resin because I did not have any and I had to scrape out of my pipe. I got high and made plans to go smoke real weed with some freinds (no longer freinds now) It was snowing and 27 degrees out side. I have a berry loving family that was worried sick about me but I honestly did not care. I got arrested in another town 15 min away and taken back to my home town jail. I was drunk and high off marijuana but they couldn't tell thankfully. Everything was going smooth untill last Monday I had made a deal. I got a gram of "Devils Eye" witch is a fairly new type of spice I had never eaven heard of and I paid 10 dollars for it. I new how much I could smoke to get high and have a good little high and so I began. I continued to take a hit when my high wore off and I would say roughly around midnight on Monday I went to sleep I left my pipe and the spice out in the open because I did not plan to go to sleep, but thankfully I woke up at 6 neding to pee and i forgot I left it out so I put it in my desk and took a hit and about 15 min later I was tripping out like I was crying and I thought I was going to have a heart attack and reality hit me that I was about to die because something was really really wrong with me so I got up and started screaming " mom" over and over I walked to the living room seem my mom and just started telling her how much I love her and shit and I was begging her to take me to the E.R and I forgot what happend after that but I remember me laughing my ass of puking in the toilet then reality hit again and I knew I was going to die it was the worse feeling in the world and she told me to go to sleep and I went and layed down and I thought that this was it and I remember crying and thinking I was in a fight and I couldn't move I was like paralyzed but I could feel myself being punched in the face and I guess I finally went to sleep I don't really remember much but my mom got me up at 10 to get ready because I have been sick and I had a dr appointment at 11 so I went to the doctor and everything had been fine now but I honestly did think I was going to die like real shit I did I'm not jokeing I thought this morning was my last day on earth. I will never in my life touch spice again! Even when I first smoke it it never made me hallucinate and feel like I was having a heart attack and was going to die. I will still openly say I will smoke real marijuana but I will never touch spice again. The crazy thing was Is that after I was puking I stood up and I felt like I was fighting for my life it felt like I was staring straight into the devils eyes witch honestly scared the hell out of my considering the name of the spice is "Devils Eye" from here on out I thank god for letting me live another day because I honestly thought that yesterday morning (dec 3 2013) was my last day on this earth.

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      Bonny OBrien 3 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      Ken, thanks for sharing. I respect your honesty.

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      ken 3 years ago

      I smoked it for years and sold it in my store, I even made the stuff from pure powder even smoked the raw powder.I sold and did mdvp and methadrone for years and I loved it till it became illegal. Then the people in the community started fucking with me. They even tried to put

      me away but they were unable to do it, ha,ha! to them. I moved out of town and still smoked herbal incense for the next year and a half. the formula changed several times because of changes in the law over the years. The new stuff caused me to have a seizures, so I stopped never did any of the stuff again, never had any withdraw or problems sense.

      I do think the stuff is bad for your health.

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      viking 4 years ago

      Very dangerous and addictive. I smoked it for 3 years. Spent thousands on it ,couldnt breath or stopcoughing. Fell asleep while driving and smoking and totalef my truck, and about destroyed my marriage. Leave it alone.

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      zack it could still catch up to you, ya never know.

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      Zack 4 years ago

      I'm 15 I've smoked herbal incense/potpourri for almost a year now theirs nothing wrong with me I'm not addicted ever once in a while ill go a couple days without smoking an I feel fine I thk ever1 is just overreacting about it

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      Thank you Cristian D for your input and advice. I hope all works out for you.

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      Cristian.D 4 years ago

      I'm in rehab for smoking Kush, a product sold in local smoke shops and gas stations. The stuff's illegal in my county now, and I'm back on real weed. I suggest NOBODY smokes this stuff, it's very harmful. That coughing the person mentioned, that's your body saying it needs the chemicals. You end up needing it, I made it out clean, and anyone can. I'm 16 years old, I quit while I was ahead. Stick to real weed, grows from the earth, and doesn't interfere with daily life. Smoke incense, dare you, you'll lose everything. It's just as bad, if not worse than heroin

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      xriley 4 years ago

      I knew a guy who went into a coma after smoking that fake stuff. Not

      worth it. Stay Natural! I get my stuff from this guy online, he has yet

      to let me down, some of the best weed I've ever smoked reminds me of

      when I first started smoking. Hit him up and tell him Xavier sent you:

      dopeexpress@Outlook.com.

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      @FuckSpice. Because The person ( Tom ), has very poor circulation due to smoking, and the clogging in the arteries. He has also had cancer last year, but yet he continues to smoke.. Well I don't know about that yet, we will see when he comes back to us, as now he will have the prostectic leg, sorry I did not spell that right. I also want to stay away from people that do smoke, and My daughter will be starting Chantix on Tuesday. She quit for almost a year before, then went back when an overload of stress hit her.

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      FuckSpice. 4 years ago

      I think you'll be fine, because quitting smoking, automatically reduces your chances of getting a smoking related disease because you're no longer inhaling the smoke. But why did someone have to have their toes removed, then their leg? what happened to them?

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      fuckspice. I am glad you have quit smoking this stuff. I don't know what it will do to you down the line. Hopefully you will be okay. I have to tell you though I quit smoking Cigarettes 8 days ago, and I hope it is not to late for me. I know someone that had there toes removed, and just a few weeks ago had their leg removed. As far as getting alzhimer or dementia, I don't think that could have anything to do with it, at least I hope not.

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      FuckSpice. 4 years ago

      I am using, the name fuck spice, because many reasons, 1. is id like to keep my identity hidden, and secondly, fuck spice, smoke pot.

      Around Summer 2011 is when i started really sm0king spice, i'm not going to go into details of my trips or anything. When the school year kicked in is when i started smoking it more regualrly, i would smoke a little bit out of a one hitter everyday, just because i could. how sad right,well yea i smoekd it because it was easy, i never got caught, and it was super cheap in my area. oh and it wasnt showing up in drug tests, and my parents threatened to drug test me,(but never did) so to stay on the safe side, i smoked the spice,

      well i continued smoking it, until about february 2012. then a few and i mean like 2 or 3 times between then and arpil 2012. Then i went back to just smoking weed. and havent touched spice since. and never fucking will.

      I want to talk to someone about it,

      I feel like since i've smoked as much of it as i have, that my life will be short lived, i keep having this thought that because no one knows what the fuck the chemicals do in the long run, they could cause my body to shut down in a few years, or another even bigger worry has just recently hit me.

      What if the chemicals cause me to get some sort of cancer in the future? is that even possible? or since its already been a year wouldn't i know something is going wrong? i do know that while i was on spice i had no memory at all, and now i've been of it my memory has improved a shit ton. A few of my friends that know how much i've smoked have said that i may develop some sort of disease when i get to be an elderly man, like alzhemiers, or having really bad memory, but i am really seriously concerned that i will die in my 30's or very soon after, and its scary because im only about to be 17 june 26th. And i've just thought about how much i love life and would want to live to be 70 - 80 years old. I am just very concerned, and am wondering, if it did do damage, would have already taken effect? that makes sense, but it also makes sense that i could develop some sort of cancer in 10- 15 years because i ingested a large amount of chemicals into my body

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      Brandon Barnes, first off I hope you are okay...? You need not to smoke this stuff again, and let it get out of your system. Drink a lot of water and juice, as it will help somewhat, all depends on how much and how long a person has been doing it..

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      Brandon Barnes 4 years ago

      I smoked super flame 4 days ago an I tripped out really bad it felt like my heart just busted open an I was bleeding out in my chest I couldn't breath an now every since I smoked it nothen has felt real I feel like I'm still here but someone is controlling my body some one please help me. Tell me what I need to do

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      Dennis, thanks for sharing what it did to you, and I"m glad you stopped smoking it.

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      Dennis 4 years ago

      terrible stuff for you. only smoked it for about 4 months but now i've developed anxiety and i still trip bout random stuff. been clean for 3 months but i can't even smoke weed anymore because it gives me panic attacks or bad anxiety. didn't have anxiety or anything before smoking spice. sucks man. hopefully it goes away soon.

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      Jody, that's great that you are trying to kick the habit, and have been clean for 3 weeks. You have been through so much. And I relize how hard it must be to do it.

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      Jody 4 years ago

      I wrote the comment above " plz read". I did the drugs mentioned before k2 once I found incense I didn't need any other drug, everyone needs to understand everyone is different what takes 1 day for a person might take 10 yrs for another.. Just know it will happen if you continue down this road of punishment to body, I feel like I have not even told you a grain of sand to my Sahara desert story, it would take a month to tell you all my horrific details of what I called my life. Stop for your loved ones before the police stop you.. Or your hospitalized

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      Brent Jones 4 years ago from California

      ^^ his experiences with spice sound exactly like mine. I stole from everyone just to get high. I manipulated everyone.

      Thank you for sharing. You sound like you are making progress.

      I hope the best for you!

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      Plz read 4 years ago

      I started 5 yrs ago while in rehab, no problems at first. It took a turn for the worst one night when I thought about telling parents goodbye, whom have lost a child from falling off a roof working. I'm their last child, losing my brother made me want to kill myself so no drug was enough until I started shooting up meth after a year of that I killed an unborn child in a car wreck from drinking, while on probation I could not seem to pass drug tests because of my addiction soo back to what I was saying I was in rehab in Kansas City Missouri and found this wonder drug that I could pass drug tests with got out rehab continued smoking it everyday allll day long had several near death experiences but I didn't care getting high was more important than life at the time and it was sooo easy to find I was arrested a few weeks ago and for the first time in 5 years I didn't get to smoke for 24 hrs while under investigation I was like a child while smoking it and didn't realize it was harder to give up than shooting up meth I have done mounds of coke, smoked crack, weed, drank bottles of liquor to myself nothing compares to the euphoric high that all forms of k2 gave me I read all these comments and you need to know after giving it up I have never felt more retarted for lack of better words, I had to leave town and stay by my parents side who care and love me to get off the stuff and its still very hard only being clean and sober 3 weeks but its the longest I have EVER been clean besides the 14 yrs b4 my brothers death. Please quit smoking. I'm now facing many charges and just being able to laugh again, I know it's hard but life is starting to be bright again not to mention the money you save if you were anything like me it can cost upwards of $100 a day I was Psychologically_manipulating my friends and family to get more and more I can't even think on my own hardly anymore without full blown concentration thank god for iPads correction in spelling or this message would be worse than it is.. Please quit while its still easy. I was one of you people that used to say it was ok to smoke this but I assure you it is really really bad for you, also my top left lung has been hurting lately and I'm afraid to get it checked out but I know I can't change your thoughts because no one could change mine till I was busted so I hope you get busted sorry, I love life and so should you without these chemicals.. If need be go burn a real joint that is so much safer sad to say. Thanks for reading hope I helped someone

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      Well Jerry fink, maybe you don't think anything is wrong with it, but many other people do, and not everybody can be wrong. and secondly I will talk about anything I so choose.

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      jerry fink 4 years ago

      I have been smoking the stuff for two yrs and love it!!! Way better than any kush or dro I smoked. You need to find something else to talk about. Stop scaring these ppl. Well gotta go cuz bout to get my mind rite. I love this shit. Hope they never get rid of it. And im sure that this wonderful drug isn't doing anything these ppl are saying. Maybe there on pcp or lsd,maybe crack. So stop wit the nonsense.

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      Greg Weber 4 years ago from Montana

      I've never tried it, but I know some people who have. The reviews are mixed. One friend says it the effects are just like real marijuana, with the added benefit that K2 is legal. Or at least not totally illegal.

      Other friends have said much the same thing as the commenters above: that K2 is like smoking chemicals, that it made them sick, gave them a headache, made them vomit, etc.

      My feeling is, if you want to get a marijuana-type high, there's no substitute for the real thing.

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      Sammi 4 years ago

      Don't smoke this shit. It gives you a really shitty high, I know from experience, nothing like real weed. One time I smoked this type of k2 called "po po" and I thought I was going to die. My face was really pale my lips were turning blue, I had purple circles under my eyes I literally looked and felt like a zombie. A friend of mine has had a seizure from smoking this shit that's when I decided to quit. Just sayin its a bad experience

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      Leah Wells-Marshburn 4 years ago from West Virginia

      Great topic. This is a real public health issue and needs all the attention it can get. Working in a mental health facility, I have seen many people suffering ill effects of smoking synthetic marijuana. It absolutely is not safe and can cause long-lasting and sometimes fatal effects. Thank you so much for writing this and sharing with the world!

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      Kevonevo 4 years ago

      Damn I'm so happy I'm one of the lucky ones cuz I smoke it everyday but not to the point where I'm addicted just wheni get bored like now lol but yea if you guys trip on it don't smoke it I gave my cousin some and he brought me back a message from the devil lmao

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      XXXD 4 years ago

      Been smoking few different brands for few years in Canada, they just recently banned all selling of it in my province. Hear a lot of bad things about it . I was a chronic pot smoker for 8 years and was able to quit by smoking synthetic herbs so i could work in the oil field and be drug tested .

      have had a few bad experiences on it : mixed with only 3 beers and had similar experiences as other ^^ feeling like i was shaking all over, dizzy heart pounding paranoia thoughts that i might die,

      luckily it only lasted about an hour of in-tenseness before i vomited and was able to calm myself down and remind myself that i was ok and that it would pass . Had i not been experienced with very high doses other drugs ( acid , shrooms , ketamine , dmt , meth , crack , x , in my past ) i might have called an ambulance on myself .

      the point im getting at is: if you are not experienced with hard drugs do not attempt to smoke these synthetic herbs thinking it might be like a light version of smoking pot for your first.

      it is very easy to overdose on some brands , potencys vary .

      after my experience i thought to myself id never smoke it again but i still do , i never mix with alcohol again and only take 1 or 2 puffs per hour on days off work ( DO NOT DRIVE ON THESE PRODUCTS )

      very easy to gap out and get into accident

      after they banned it i started buying it online , a lot of products were hit and miss and a lot of sites never even sent anything .

      the best one i found in canada is called fusion herbs there is a few different kinds of fusion , the one i find is closer to smoking weed than anything out there is black hole fusion . it is rated at extreme potency and is easy to overdose on if you have not grown a tolerance to these synthetic herbs , i only recommend smoking 2 hoots max per hour

      ( you can't get higher than your first 2 hoots and if you try you will only have an unpleasant experience )

      I do not recommend smoking these products ( i just want people to know the risks and that some of the propaganda is just in-experienced people who have had an overdose experience that were scared away and are trying to scare others and not giving proper information) there really has not been any long term testing done and some products do not post any ingredients lists and you could have allergic reaction to some products do your research before ever trying any substance, smoking weed is healthier safer, cheaper, tastes better, smells better is all around better high .

      some people can't smoke weed because of drug tests and such

      ( there are ways around drug tests but they are not all effective )

      do your research before you waste your money

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      Anonymous, I hope you can quit, before you won't be able to breathe at all.

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      Anonymous 4 years ago

      Thankyou for posting this! There needs to be a lot more media attention focused on this! I would know! Im 19 years old. Ive been addicted to k2/kronic/any type of legal high I could get my hands on for the past almost 3 years. I would smoke it daily, all day, just like you said, in my room, I told my dad i was burning incense. If I wasn't high I was getting my next one. This stuff is BAD BAD news. It seems like fun and games at first but its really not... its terrible. It has horrible toxins in it which made me very sick. My whole persona changed, I just wanted to be alone, I was fighting with my family non stop. I now have anxiety issues and breathing problems, I rarely can get a breath in. All i wanted to do was stop.

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      missy5 4 years ago

      I have two points I would like to make:

      Point number one - Sadly, even though this coming out of the goodness of your heart, it is promoting these drugs. Risk takers will see this and unfortunately try it just to see what the fuss is about.

      Point number two - I do see a bit of reefer madness going on here, as someone that has tried it, I cannot say that I experienced any of these horrible effects apart from the totally artificial taste and feel. What disturbs me is the fact there is no information on the chemicals used to make these products.

      Legality aside, usually when someone picks their drug of choice they can research both the negative and positive effects of the drug. Alcohol will lower one's inhibitions, reduce shyness, cause depression and irreversible brain damage. (N.B: Knowing what I know about alcohol, I often wonder why it not only remains legal but receives soooo much promotion!!) Meth or ice will make your teeth rot, make you engage in dangerous, unprotected sex and will make you just plain crazy. There is no factual information on these chemicals. It's not just young risk takers that will smoke these unknown compounds, the whole sordid industry is aimed at harmless people that don't want to lose their job because they ingest a plant that causes less harm to families, society and the individual than the mind altering substances that are legal.

      I have two suggestions -

      A) Ban this stuff now.

      B) Stop testing honest, hard workers for THC.

      In the meantime, getting high aside, logically think about it. You wouldn't eat or drink something that had "chemical x" listed in the ingredients, so why smoke it?

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      Worried, You need to talk to your dad, and try to get him to stop, if he does not listen to you, maybe the next time you can video tape him so he can see how he acts, and what it is doing to him. I really hope everything works out for you.

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      Worried 4 years ago

      It's 5:34am... & I'm worried sick about my dad. At first I thought "how harmful could this legal marijuana be?" He just does it because he can't smoke "illegal weed" because of his job. I have smoked "legal weed" before & have to agree with mostly everyone on this blog. I wanted to call 9-11 & I thought I was going to die. I then told myself... "you just smoked too much" then I'd put myself through it again, & again. I learned that I hate the way it makes me feel. Anyway, he is hallucinating, talking CRAZY. Losing stuff left & right. Telling me someone is coming over, thought my sister & niece were here at the house? They haven't been here at all! It's 4:30! He comes to my door is Brook here? I said what are you talking about?

      I don't know!! I'm exhausted can't sleep worried sick about my dad... I have been up keeping him company (checking on him) making sure he's alright.

      I don't know what to do... :(

      He finally is going to bed. So I started reading up on the Internet to seek some insight.

      Yes, people react differently. But, hallucinating... He's hearing "people fighting" or "people talking", claims "he saw a lady crawl into a bush with a backpack talking on her cell phone", "expecting company at 4:30am" saying someone is meeting him to help him work on his truck!!! It's just not normal.... I'm a mess.... :(

      I'm embarrassed to say its my dad... But I love him to death & understand smoking weed & having to smoke legal to pass drug tests. But at this point it is so scary. To think of losing him over this & not doing anything about it. I don't know how to go about telling him though.

      I'm talking in circles it is now 5:46am. The articles have been help. Just, don't know what to do. It's scary just watching it. Let alone go through it.

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      Rygads 4 years ago

      Have smoked many home brewed fake blends made by a friend that were very clean and pleasant. Uplifting and nice. Recently, another friend asked me to smoke some gas station stuff with him so I did. Took two hits and eventually started to trip. Once we went inside, I decided that things were feeling too intense so I was going to lay down by a fan to calm down since my heart was beating fast and hard. I could feel my pulse in my head and hear it clearly from the inside of my head. As I was laying, I was focusing on breathing slowly to lower my heart rate which worked to some degree until it started feeling like it was beating too slow and occasionally skipping beats. At some point, I stopped feeling my heart beat entirely and my vision would fade as well is my train of though, prompting me to lift my head and move a little bit to sort of kick-start my heart again. Whether or not I was actually experiencing heart failure is beyond me, but I really thought I was about to die. It was scary and overwhelming and the most unpleasant experience I've ever had, about a hundred times worse than Salvia extract which is an incredibly intense trip involving the full spectrum of sensory hallucination that is so powerful, your actual senses go blank. Never have I had a drug that made me feel as if I was dying before. Will never do that stuff again. Natural or nothing.

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      Qaz I don't know. I have never used the stuff. Hope you feel better soon.

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      Qaz 4 years ago

      Also when I swallow it feels strange.

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      Qaz 4 years ago

      I tried this k2 stuff yesterday at around noon and I'm still feeling weird. Is that normal? I can't sleep, my mind is messing with me, I'm having panic attacks. I just want it to end, how much longer will it take until feel normal again? I only took one hit.

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      Thank you C for your comment. You really must have had a really bad scare. I am glad that you choose not to use this nasty drug.

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      4 years ago

      I'm an expert drug user in most cases, not proud. This stuff worked to me as a short 15 minute weed high, until i took a large rip of it from a waterpipe, and thought i was going to die. Panic attack/ heart palpitations/ INSANE heart rate. I calmed myself down in my room, but never before have i wanted to go to the hospital so bad. I almost accepted the fact I was going to die it was that bad. this shit is the devil, i curse the friend that suggested it to me while im on probation. Fucking bullshit. I don't enjoy the feeling of thinking yoru going to die. avoid at all costs. that's my 2 cents.

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      Wake up people 4 years ago

      Synthetic cannabinoids is not a dangerous drug by any standard, just like marijuana it is near impossible to die from excessive usage or an "overdose" unlike alcohol or prescription drugs which can easily kill you in excess. Unless there is a serious pre existing medical issue like heart problems then you shouldn't be smoking anyway. The only reason this drug was bought to the attention of the government was due to underage and younger users becoming scared while under the influence and calling the hospital for advice. The majority of deaths are not caused by this drug itself but by its misuse by the user eg. Operating heavy machinery or senseless and self endangering acts by the individual under the influence. Rather its a lack of education and understanding of the safe ways to use, just like any drug be it caffeine, Panadol, Valium or even alcohol all effect motor functions and alter natural brain chemical function to some standard. Everyone knows not to drink and drive, take prescription drugs and drive, don't they?

      Thousands of people each day enjoyed the use of these synthetic cannabinoids only due to the fact that it was readily available and legal. They had the right and choice to relax in their favored method without fear of prosecution, jail time, financial and emotional hardship. Not everyone enjoys water, some people like milk, Australia is a Police country where we are all being told to drink the water, at a certain rate and in a certain way and to never touch milk. It makes me sad to call myself an Australian, in a country that was founded on the American Constitution and Bill of Rights we have very very little freedoms and choices and the government is taking more off us each day. Many people turned to this item as a way to help quit Cannabis.

      Marijuana itself is an all natural plant that has show to have amazing healing and medical properties and yet is still illegal. Am i going crazy? No. Due to the fact that it is too hard to regulate and the government cannot put out their greedy hands and take their share of the cash. Marijuana legalization in America has reduced youth crime by up to 20 percent in one year alone. Imagine if Australia could adopt a similar circumstance? There wouldn't be a need to make synthetic cannabinoids. How much it would stimulate our economy and reduce crime rates by epidemic proportions, We would reduce prison overcrowding and cost, increase tourism all while allowing the medial properties of Cannabis to benefit ours and future generations. Everyone benefits.........except the winging baby we call the government who is supposable doing what is best for its citizens.

      Alcohol on the other hand is legal because the government makes millions of dollars in revenue from its sales each year yet it is killing 75,000 people each year. Not to mention pharmaceutical companies and their drugs which also give millions of dollars in kickbacks and bonuses to the government while they produce man made drugs that they know have overwhelming side affects causing serious irreversible physical and mental damage to the user but its ok because the government is getting paid and the drug has "medical use".

      This is just another example of the Australian Governments plans to slowly remove civil rights and freedoms that our relatives fought and founded this country on. The people of this country need to stand up fight for their rights before we have none left at all. Australia already refuses us the right of self defense in our own home, the freedom of speech, and the assumption to be innocent until proven guilty and now it has taken another freedom of choice.

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      Ron 4 years ago

      Although I have smoked real marijuana before and didn't like the way it made me feel, I have never smoked this "Fake Weed" but have seen what this crazy stuff can make you do. My nephew is 28 years old and has been smoking marijuana for years. His co-workers turned him on to this "Fake Weed" several months ago and it has totally screwed up his head. This stuff is so addictive, it's unreal. My nephew has pawned every electronic in their house and has started selling and pawning his kids belongings just to buy this stuff. So, if you think it's not harmful and non-addictive, I suggest you think again. My suggestion, keep smoking the real stuff, it may not be legal, but at least you know what's in it and what to expect. Good Luck And God Bless To All Of You Experimenting With This Crap!

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      Mark Drozdal 4 years ago

      Worst shit in the world. I smoked this stuff out of a water pipe for a few months and now i have a constant cough and weez and i have a much harder time breathing while practicing martial arts. It sucks really bad. I hope over time my lungs can repair themselves.

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      @Matt. Many states are considering this stuff as a drug, and they will get in trouble if drug tested.

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      Matt 4 years ago

      I used to smoke spice often, mostly scooby snacks and diablo but then stopped for 2 months. I didn't feel any withdrawal symptoms like mentioned above. When i was smoking spice I did feel like it was fucking something up in my body. If you do decide to smoke this don't over-do it, take 2-3 hits then stop. I have a friend that smokes this everyday and although he hasn't been hospitalized he does seem pretty stupid but i don't know he's always been stupid. My worst experience with this was with some gold packet with a buddah on it, I took like 3 fat rips out of an apple and it hit me so hard I lost control of my body and I was stumbling all over the place and slurring my speech, everything seemed like a dream and none of my friends seemed familiar. Common side effects when i smoke this are paranoia but the high doesn't last long so its not major. I smoked this recently and apparently they changed the chemicals because on the packet it says "3rd generation" and it feels a lot different now. So just stick to weed, if u can't because you get drug tested (like me) drink!!! At least when you drink you know the long term effects. More research is required for this product

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      Austin 4 years ago

      I have had bad experiences as well. It's banned where I live but it is still being being sold over the counter and I also heard there are test strips for it now but I really don't know. I thought the DEA had put an emergency ban on this crap but apparently not. Someone needs to step up and put a stop to it.

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      NHOJ 4 years ago

      oh and by the way.. the guy acting like a crazy on the video.. you says he never smoked it then he takes huge bong hit and clears it??? IDIOT.. what do you expect? Just read my post above lol

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      Boss 4 years ago

      Damn, I was smoking this stuff for 5 months and I waked in bake one morning on this stuff called blue magic. It felt good for a short period of time and suddenly my heart was beating at a tremendous rate. It's really hard to explain the next thing that happen for those 10 minutes but it was God awful. It felt like hell was in my mind and I was stuff and couldn't move and felt psychotic. Worst drug, I think

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      sswaqq.city 4 years ago

      I smoke it it sometmes my ladt rime i smoked ot was last noght and i have asthma and i can bearly breath right and my jeada hurts and i keep hearing voices and strange noises ... i int gonna smoke that shit no morw hell no ....

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      Comcerned ex Spice smoker 4 years ago

      I used to smoke this shit a lot actually because the trips were seriously insane. But I have a question foreveryone who reads this, are people who have smoked over 100 grams of this shit scared of what's going to happen In the future... Like 10 20 years because I am very frightened because no ones been smoking it for long enough to know the long term effects the future holds. I'm seriously concerned about developing cancer or something.please someone in the sameboat comment back. But also I think whatever it's going to It has already done such as memory loss

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      @ Linda. I am so very sorry to hear about the loss of your husband , and my heart really goes out to you and the family. I had tears in my eyes as I read your story. let me know how things are going for you.

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      Linda 4 years ago

      MY HUSBAND STEP MUM HATE HIM SO MUCH

      My man died 6 weeks ago after 12 month illness where he required increasing amounts of oxygen. I was told 6 months previously that he was about to die and we moved heaven and earth to get him home from hospital. My wonderful strong man carried on for 6 months despite what everyone said. I stopped work and we spent nights and days together mostly with me watching him almost suffocate to death every day. one day in September when there was no one else around I lay down beside him and fell asleep, when I woke up he had gone. I never believe that my husband death was natural..cos i know those that did not want his progress, every night and day i always cry i fill like killing my self because things where hard on my side, my husband family throw us out of the house me and my children where on the street begging for food and water..cos no money any more. one of my friend that i have not see for a very long time saw my on a street and she called my name, when i turn i was an old friend of mine, i explain every thing that happen she gave us accommodation and told me my husband death was not natural she told me i should not worry she is going to help me, will contact Dr Opingo who salve family problems i explain every thing about my husband to him and he said he will help me know about the death of my husband i was very happy that very day...cos i no something was behind my husband death and i see who is going to help me out, Dr ask me to send my husband picture, surname, and his name i did every thing immediately. After Dr Opingo have use the information i send him, two weeks later my husband step mum confess that she was the one that kill my husband through sickness...i am so happy i am free because the family believe that i kill my husband to take over the properties. thank you once again HELEN my best friend for introducing me to Dr Opingo you can contact his email if you still need his help alterofcandletemple@gmail.com

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      Real weed is where its at 4 years ago

      Sorry double post but i had to say this.

      I have been smoking marijuana for years. Yes there are side effects if you abuse it. As anything.. If you eat too much chocolate you get sick.. If you drink to much water you can drown.. Too much of anything is bad. Anything in moderation is fine.

      The problem is the addicitive drugs, The ones where you get cold sweats and 'feel like death' if you stop taking the drug.

      Differences that I can see...

      Marijuana - is not addictive, Many people have disagreed with this over the years but I know what I'm talking about.. for a fact.

      The drug itself is not addictive but the high of it is... Hence no withdrawal symtoms or none that are noticable except wanting the 'high' again. It's also impossible to overdose on real marijuana, if you smoked that much you would just fall asleep and wake up in the morning probably feeling very hungry lol, you do get paranoid feelings from smoking real weed but from what I read above it's nothing like the intensity of the fake weed.. There are also long term affects of smoking weed but thats if you abuse it, and even then it depends on the person.

      Fake weed - Extreme Paranoia, Fear, Vomiting, Seizures, Terrible and unpleasant emotions, now those things are just a couple of things mentioned above...... and that's FIRST TIME SMOKING!.

      Im sure there are a lot more side effects that I havn't listed..

      All in all .. Real weed isn't good for you, Imagine what this is doing to your brain/body/health in general.

      If you don't have experience with drugs I highly suggest not even trying this 'fake weed'... and if you do try it have an extremely extremely small amount. Don't give-in to peer pressure either!

      So people PLEASE wake up because your basically smoking rat poison.

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      Real weed is where its at. 4 years ago

      Alright I have heard constant storys of this drug and have basically just read this whole page.. Now you people still taking this drug are idiots..

      No offence intended but its true.. and if your one of those people that smoke it because you don't want to lose your job then that's completely rediculous..

      What's worth more.. Your job.. The High... or Your life..?

      Now just think about that for a minute..

      Anyway..

      ..Why not just get some petrol or some paint and sniff it...or just smoke some rat poison or something I'm sure it would do almost the same thing.. Since it's just chemicals your smoking.. and it would be a lot cheaper that's for sure.

      WAKE UP PEOPLE ITS NOT EVEN WEED YOUR SMOKING.

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      ucdis85 4 years ago

      @steve: The reason you feel chest pains is bc it messes with your cardiovascular system, when I was on it, I was either real pale, or very purple in the face and lips. Again, it's bc it messes with your heart,people with heart probs def shouldn't do spice or k-2.

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      Unforgiven 4 years ago

      Hi, im here to say I'm a daily bizarro smoker. I can agree it his highly addictive. I head trip, I freak out, bout 7gs a day. Wish I never started. But.. I love the trips

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      steve 4 years ago

      This stuff can't be good for me but I can't stop and I feel like get chest pains or a pressure or something along those lines

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      lovedoctor926 4 years ago

      Thank you for spreading awareness. This is the first time that I hear of fake marijuana. Drugs are hazardous to your health. They also change the way you react. Once a person is addicted, all they begin to care about is getting high, and once the high wears off, they need to take more just to feel normal again. There are other ways to cope with stress, depression or whatever it is that you're suffering from. There are a number of things you can do for relaxation. go to the beach, take a short vacation, practice yoga or meditation, enroll in a martial arts class. thanks for sharing

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      Devika Primić 4 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      Who would even think of fake marijuana, I had no idea of it, well I don't go around looking for the stuff. The real stuff or the fake stuff is not good for you, interesting one. You have shared excellent information here thanks

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      Niicole_d 4 years ago

      Me and my ex boyfriend started smoking spice about 2 years ago and it ruined our relationship! Lucky for me i was the smarter one always trying to tell him i don't feel right about doing this anymore it made me have withdrawals to the point people think im a tweaker, it makes me sleep my life away to the point i havnt seen my kids in three months or even spoke to my family for a year. He became very agitated and abusive towards me and would spend at minimum 500 bux a month on it so i left him. He is now on the verge of homelessness, he is jobless, has no one left that cares and is slowly killing himself or he will end up in prison going his rate because he steels for spice and is constantly threatening pe0ple.. Anyone that cares about their self or their loved ones stay away and keep them away.

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      DudeBro 4 years ago

      Its made by zenscense they also make, orgazmo and a few others. So what your saying is that the drug test out now for it only looks for the banned chemicals and not the current being sold? Thanks

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      @DudeBro 4 years ago

      I haven't seen that blend yet around Maryland, but synthetic MJ wont show up in a piss test. The pee test goes for illegal chemicals from what I understand, so anything legal at the time you take the test you'll pass (or even recently banned will still be OK). You'll be fine. Regardless, even if you wouldn't pass...who cares? You're smoking something legal, if you get in trouble/fired from your job because of it, you have grounds to take legal action and (more then likely) win with the right lawyer.

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      DudeBro 4 years ago

      Does anyone know about the new ones for example (bizzaro) made by zencense does this new blend show up on drug test? What are the chemicals in these?

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      John 4 years ago

      Its been said time and time again, but if you try this stuff, don't be stupid about it. Users that are inexperienced with drugs should only take one small hit and see how it effects you, then wait about 10 minutes and then take another. More importantly, smoke in MODERATION or you WILL more then likely get addicted.

      You smoke a lot of this stuff, you will probably get addicted like I was, consumes your life and you will start thinking about chasing your next high almost every 20 minutes. If you know you have a fairly addictive personality, be aware of that when you start smoking this stuff. You need to be able to catch the first time you feel addicted and either cut back a lot, or quit altogether, if you don't this stuff may start to consume your life. Just some words of wisdom from a previous k2 user, but for all the idiots that haven't tried this stuff you really need to stop being ignorant, you have no idea what you're talking about. K2 is bad for your heath (obviously, smoking anything is) but if taken in moderation, is very chill and relaxing just like pot.

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      Chris 4 years ago

      Here is an interesting find not that any of these current incense blends use this but interesting to see a big pharm making a cannabinoid.

      BAY 38-7271 (KN 38-7271) is a drug which is a cannabinoid receptor agonist developed by Bayer AG. It has analgesic and neuroprotective effects and is used in scientific research, with proposed uses in the treatment of traumatic brain injury.[1][2] It is a full agonist with around the same potency as CP 55,940 in animal studies, and has fairly high affinity for both CB1 and CB2 receptors, with Ki values of 2.91nM at CB1 and 4.24nM at CB2.[3][4] It has now been licensed to KeyNeurotek Pharmaceuticals for clinical development,[5] and is currently in Phase II trials.[6]

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      ucdis85 4 years ago

      My name is Alejandro, I live in Kansas City, and I'am 25 years old. When I first heard about making marijuana legal... I thought, "yeah right, they will never do that!" SO when it finally happened my friend Jay told me about it and i went and got some. The first ones i remember buying were like the "earth ones", the packages had comfortable names like ;wind, rain, stuff like that. Anyway, up until he had told me that, I had previously quit marijuana for about 2 years. When he told me I wa so excited, and I went and got some that day. (Keep in mind, this is around the middle of 2009) Stuffed a bowl of, and took a hit. I remember looking at my girlfriend in shock and saying, "im high!' She and I couldn't believe it. After that, I did not get hooked, and I didn't continue to use it. As time went, i'd keep hearing about new names, and the trips people had with it. So now I'm thinking,"this isn't a fad, Its legit, and people want it." Since I was still a pot head at heart, but just quit due to my probation, I decided to jump on the potpourri bandwagon. (Afterall, its legal) Bad decision! This time around they have diff names and brands. Called my cousin, asked what one is good, and he recommended this one called white widow, it came in a little tube. The first time i went home and rolled a joint and too one hit, like 10 seconds passed and I was high as kite. It wasn't a pleasant high though, it was kind of dirty, dark, dipressing, and put me in an anti social box. I pannicked very bad, and even like one of the earlier writers, begged God to take this away and i wont do it again. idk why, but like the earlier writers said, I too didn't stop, i for some reason kept close to the experience as nasty as it made me feel. Within 3 days i was hooked. my life turned around completely, within one week. I became distant from people, my hygeine went out the door, no motivation, mood swings, I became a totally diff person. I stole from my family lied to my family, and in 3 months took 700$ from my baby, who at the time was one. My whole life was gone before my eyes in the matter of a week, no kids, no wife, and no money. One day, I remember I was so dipressed and i wanted to kill myself, and i prayed and asked God to help me get this crap out of my life. That was i believe on 02/05/12. On 02/12/12 (which was a sunday), I got invited to go to church, and i got saved that day. I got my whole life back, and was doing better than i ever have in my whole life, but about a month ago i was having a bad day, i went with my cousin to hangout and he offered me some Gorilla Dro. I was like,' the heck, ill take one hit." Since then I've been addicted again and it sucks. The first time it took me like two weeks to get ot out of my system, it was hell. (All the same side effects too) wide awake: always asleep, vomit, sweat, shakes, nauseua. To say the least, I relapsed and now I'am back at square one, and it sucks. This time it seems worse, my consumption, my addiction, and my need to steal. I steal from my kids, my wife, my mom, and my grandparents, this really sucks and I wish I'd never had touched it again. I've spent maybe more than 300$ this month on it. This stuff is bad, I've never stole anything, for anyone or anything. I never stole for weed or any other drug, but this one iam in the matter of 3 days. It only took 7 grams to get me hooked, like 2 days i was drug back into it. That wasn't long ago when i first smoked that gorilla dro, i believe it was christmas eve when i first started again, and by day 3 full blown addict again. Last 3 days i've tried to quit but could'nt, tonight is the night, im gonna do it and im not goona turn back this time. This stuff suck and is very dipressing, im sure suicide will starts going up from this crap. Please don't use this stuff, its not fun, you shouldn't use any drugs at all, but definitely don't want to start with this crap, ive always experimented with drugs, and have never had an issue like one that ive had with this one.

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      Joe 4 years ago

      I took this stuff that had the head of a ninja on the outside packaging. After I took several hits I knew had made a horrible mistake. Everything starting to go fast and I went into a panic attack by myself. My heart was racing I felt like I was going to die. I was alone in my apartment. The bad trip lasted nearly two hours, I could barely. Almost called 911. The man at the store told me even this stuff had made him crazy and he was speaking from a lot of experience. That was over three weeks back. Now my heart area still hurts like it is straining. I am 42. I dumped all my bong gear etc. after that. I feel I may need to go to doc now and get my heart tested. What a fool I was. I was feeling a little depressed at the time and felt like I was going to die on this stuff. Don't do it.

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      FUH-Q 4 years ago

      Those of you who have had negative experiences with 'spice, potpourri, incense, etc.' have simply had too much too soon or too often. In small amounts and/or infrequent use, this stuff will not cause a big problem. Why are you boneheads smoking giant hits and bowls of this stuff? Or smoking it so often? It's not pot, it's stronger. Depending on the blend, you usually just need a tiny little puff. Would you same people also guzzle down an entire bottle of vodka at once, then describe how horrible the experience was? Or drink large amounts every day for weeks? Would you also make your coffee 10 times too strong, and then drink massive amounts every day for weeks? Of course not! Why can't you people just use common sense? GEEEZ!

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      Just read me 4 years ago

      Ok I am what u would call a pot head. For example I smoke on the way to get more....I can smoke a half oz in a day with no problem. I got this great job and get random drug tests so I had to quit after 15 yrs as a heavy pot smoker. I started buying the fake shit after my boy told me about it. The first couple times I got lit up.....I even had an apafany and talked to god twice on it swearing ill never do it again...which I still do. Anyway the fake shit is good if u need to pass a pee test...however it does not last but for like 20 min if u get used to it. I do agree it is more addicting then weed I think because ur always chasing the high every twenty minutes. I've never smoked crack but i feel like a crack pheen when I'm out of fake green. My advice to u would be don't get started....I do enjoy it a lot however it is running my life now....and I see no end in sight of me stopping...prey for me please.

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      jon 4 years ago

      I've been smoking incense for almost 2 yrs n never had a problem other then getting the stuff....... Nobody is the same n effects are going to be different for everyone but some people just can't handle their stuff..... I don't feel like I'm gonna die or eat anyone's face so please if you don't do then mind your own business..... I mean we don't do a world wide ban when a drunk kills an entire family...... I'm not telling anyone its safe or to try it

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      nick 4 years ago

      Yea that shit is the devil ive smoked it for about 2years heavy and now i fill like im gona die anyday :( now joke can't breathe in the am when i wake up it makes me scared to sleep this is some mean shit boys and it don't play trust me im 24 and fill 94 not good wished i would have known but now u do so trust me don't do it stick to the real shit if u have to have the buzz

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      Ron.D 4 years ago

      Lucy, K2 is a brand name, not the name of the drug. Most of the brands are using a JWH derivitive, as there are morw than 300 of the JWHs. The chemist it is named after actually SYNTHESIZED the first few ones. He did not discover it in an Asian plant food.

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      43rd vet 4 years ago

      I smoke it all the time. Quit being afraid. I had a few panic attacks, but since I'm not a sissy i just prepared for death. well, wouldn't ya know, I didn't die! I am an Iraq war vet, 03-04, and am disgusted with this country. We have no freedom. We took freedom from iraq and should just keep our damn noses out of other peoples business. Unfortunately, that's the american way as the author has clearly demonstrated. People with no experience think they know best. tsk tsk.

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      Steve 4 years ago

      Well, I have been smoking pot since 1971, but for the last 3 years I have had a job where I get random tested all the time and it wasn't worth the metal strain to always have to worry about getting busted by a random so I stopped smoking real weed 3 years ago. About a year ago I found the recipe for making "spice" at home. It involved buying Damania weed and some kind of marshmallow root and grinding it up and then spraying it with the jwh-18 or whatever and then letting it dry. I smoked it for a year and it did occasionally make me have mini panic attacks but I never vomited or got sick. It did however make me cough a lot. I would stop for a week or so and hack up all the phlem and then be fine, but would start smoking it again and then repeat the cycle over and over. It was almost or more addicting than weed. I wish every state would just make real weed legal and then us stoners would not have to resort to shit like this. I was buying the bizarro brand and again it made me cough more but was a pretty good buzz. People would smoke dog shit if it was a pleasant high and I would never tell someone else what they can and cannot do. Alohol and cigarettes are the biggest killers on the plant yet they are legal as hell because they are big business and make tons of cash for people. They never made weed legal because anyone can grow it for free so there is no profit to be made by the big alcohol and cigarette companies. Just goes to show how fucked up this country really is.....it's ok to ruin peoples lives as long as someone is making a profit. Please just make weed legal everywhere and I will be happy. I am seriously thinking about moving to Colorado or Washington just to be able to smoke to my hearts content.............just sayin'

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      april 4 years ago

      Its crazy because there's always a voice screaming to get spice and there will be weeks where I'm depressed and angry but don't know why and I find myself "arguing" with my "other personality" about spice all the time. Thankyou I have have sought out help to see if I can be normal again.

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      Oh wow April, I feel so sad for you. I hope that things will improve for you.

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      april 4 years ago

      I smoked it for a whole year all day every day. I am pretty sure in that year I had developed a new personality and a alter world where I could escape into. Until one day the trips went from fun to extreme paranoia. But I craved it I still wanted to escape good or bad. Then I started to see crazy shit. I haven't smoked in a while but here's the after effects for me: I still believe I have another personality, I have a problem with my speech its hard to put words together amd I stutter now, in the icorner of my eye I always think I see something, I'm extremely paranoid that someone is hunting me, ive had a nasty cough, and I am super depressed. I haven't smoked in a while and I'm not sure I'll ever be the same... so it may be fun but make sure you're ready for

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      Ryan 4 years ago

      I used to smoje k2 when that was out not as strong as the fake bud that they have out now. I stopped after i thought i was having a heart attack.

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      Nic 4 years ago

      You might have just saved my life.

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      Erich 4 years ago

      I'm in my 30s, I've smoked marijuana since 16 off and on. I tried herbal incense, and eventually bizarro and zencense's other products. One discontinued product caused me to have a seizure while I laid in bed wracked with pain. Bizarro is an interesting trip, if you take very small hits and don't let it overwhelm you. Makes the world seem cartoony and not as real.

      Herbal incense products are research chemicals sprayed onto plants and coated with flavoring. You take your own life into risk every time you do it. This stuff is addictive, I get cravings for it constantly, I'd recommend not trying it out, even just to experiment. If you have the need to relax and get away from normal life I'd stick with mary j.

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      Kim 4 years ago

      I've been smoking herbal incense for over a year, on a daily basis. It is most definitely addictive. It turns you into a different person when you smoke it. You lose yourself. I'm stopping. Last night I forgot who I was, who my boyfriend was, where my body was. Terrifying.

      So here's to a life that I can enjoy without being high.

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      ralph 4 years ago

      Correction- pot is legal in Washington and Colorado, I don't mean for medical puropses either. It is legal to buy, possess, and smoke pot. Can't smoke in public and it is still illegal to sell. I think you have to be 21 to buy it. Washington is looking at some, I think, 5 million or billion dollars a year in revenue just from mj sales alone..

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      ralph 4 years ago

      I apologize lucy, I think there may have been a misunderstanding. If all spice products say they are legal for human consumption or ment for smoking then it just makes it easier to make them completely illegal and schedual. I do know that the government wants all synthetic pot and amphetimines to be a schedual 1 drug. For anyone who doesn't know, and I find this to be the dumbest thing ever, pot is a schedual 1 drug(schedual 1 drugs are considered to be the most harmful drugs). Now, what most people don't know is that cocaine is a schedual 2 drug meaning it is less harmfiul than pot. So what we are really being told is that pot is a gate way drug to less harmful drugs. Sorry for my confusion DEA fellas but never once have I heard a cocaine addict say 'I think Id like to use a drug one step down from this shit I've been snorting for 4 years.'

      Here's the real reason pot is schedual 1, fyi the DEA will tell you the same thing, Pot is a gateway drug to worse drugs(not my opinion I love pot). Pot is no legal in Washington and Colorado, yeah! Its only a matter of time folks.

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      Bonny OBrien 4 years ago from Troy, N.Y.

      Bruce, thanks for your comments, and the experience you and your friends have gone through. It must have been a rough time for you.

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      Bruce 4 years ago

      Sorry, one more comment.

      "larissa 2 weeks ago

      After reading everyone's comments, I noticed that no one had mentioned how they felt after being off it for awhile. I smoked various brands of spice for approximately six months. I was a heavy user and felt that I was unable to live life without it. I could not stand the way I felt sober, and obsessed over how to get more. Because I tried many kinds of it, I experienced suicidal thoughts, irrational thinking, disorganized thoughts, and poor memory. I've now been clean from spice and meth for nine months"

      You didn't think it important to mention you were on METH too in the beginning!?

      I was a heavy user for 6 months along with my roommate and his girlfriend. Withdrawal sucked, but all of us were fine within 3 days after stopping use, aside from coughing up black crap.

      Withdrawal seemed to include: nausea, trouble sleeping the first night, severe depression the first day, and pronounced physical urge to smoke it for another day or two. Day 3 all 3 of us were peachy. The only reason I wanted to smoke anymore would be why I would want to smoke pot or drink a beer... to escape reality a little.

      All the seizure people just seem to not be able to handle themselves. I knew after a day of not smoking my tolerance would be down, and I would be prepared for feeling like I was dying(in a way too highway, not a real dying way) for 5 mins or so. I could imagine it spiraling out of control if one was not prepared; even leading to things such as temporary catatonic states.