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The Lucas Werner Dilemma: Fake News and Government Impotence

Updated on January 21, 2017

The Face Even a Mother Could Say Looks Crazy

There needs to be a "crazy person" emoji for Facebook posts.
There needs to be a "crazy person" emoji for Facebook posts. | Source

As far as "fake news" goes, this is pretty bad. Which wouldn't be so bad, if the lies weren't being spread further and further, week after week, by the mainstream media.

What the "real" news reported, and continues to report: On December 22, 2016, a 37 year old man went into the downtown Spokane, WA, Starbucks, to get a hot chocolate. He thought the 16 year old barista was flirting with him, so he passed her a note saying he wanted to take her out to dinner. She thought it was creepy, told her manager, and Starbucks banned him from the store.

He hooted and hollered (and continues to hoot and holler) that Starbucks was discriminating against him based on his age. Yes, he's claiming "ageism."

I'm trying to imagine why the media would keep sharing this story without any additional clarification whatsoever. Since they don't want to inject any truth, I will.

His Name is Lucas Werner

Lucas needs long-term, involuntary psychiatric care like he received in March 2016.
Lucas needs long-term, involuntary psychiatric care like he received in March 2016. | Source
Lucas' family members express their frustration on Facebook.
Lucas' family members express their frustration on Facebook. | Source

Lucas Werner is dangerously mentally ill: Lucas Werner was diagnosed with bipolar II with schizoidal tendencies in 2000 after a manic episodic break. He has been forcibly committed in the past. The last time was in March 2016. In addition to the bipolar II with schizoidal tendencies, he has been diagnosed with a host of untreated communicable diseases that don't require sex for sharing (e.g., MRSA).

Many of his posts on Facebook and YouTube seem ... completely nuts. His mother has written about how sad it was to lose him to mental illness, but like so many other mentally ill individuals, he clearly refuses to stay on medication or get help for any of his conditions, mental or otherwise. And the family has no power to do anything.

You can read a short autobiography here.

Brains ......... BRAINS!!!!

Is it just me or do those look like brains??
Is it just me or do those look like brains?? | Source

The creepy food memes: Okay, I know people get all triggered when their Facebook friends post a picture of every meal. But Lucas' pictures are just ... unappetizing? Bizarre? Give the impression he's a cannibal? And it's not like he posts different photos of different meals. Remember, he's homeless ... how he even affords to eat out is a mystery. But he tends to use one photo time and again for his weird underage girl memes.

Let's be honest, Lucas: That white stuff looks like brains. And the way you talk makes it seem like it's human brains.

What filter are you using, that you make every plate of food look like something out of a cannibalistic, dystopian sci-fi movie?

Young Males Are Genetically Inferior

When you look at his memes, you know why he hasn't had a date in 5 years.
When you look at his memes, you know why he hasn't had a date in 5 years. | Source

Men under 35 poison their sexual partners: Telomerase is at the core of Lucas' beliefs, and they are pretty scary beliefs. Couldn't ask for a better example of how a little understanding of a little science can lead to big problems.

At some point, Lucas read something about:

  1. telomeres, a repeating DNA sequence at the end of the body's chromosomes (which is pretty complex science); and
  2. how older men have babies that live longer

and then put 1. and 2. together and came to the conclusion that:

  • young men should not breed;
  • society should raise the age of consent for males to 35; and
  • those young men are giving their sexual partners cancer and other preventable diseases with their substandard sperm.

{heavy sigh}

And while normal people would look at these findings and deduce that older men simply have children that live longer - but people should still get to choose their own partners based on desire, not age - Lucas has taken it upon himself to be the savior of Spokanish womanhood by declaring that women under the age of 26 should have sex with him because his sperm will produce superior progeny. Or, as Lucas put it, so eloquently:

"Dudes under 35 are carcinogens. That has to be the funniest true shot I've read from at least 3 scientific sources in my 36 years on this planet. Dudes under 35 cause cancer, depression and stress from too much telomerase in their bodies. If you didn't read this post you might get motherf**k cancer."

Did I mention he said young women should be doing it with him whether they want to or not? This "science" also doesn't apply to other older men, as evidenced by his numerous, spiteful, jealous posts decrying the large number of "silver foxes" in Spokane dating women that fall within in his desired age range.

But You Eat Cheese!!!

Lucas Werner: Date me, because I'm like old, rotten milk.
Lucas Werner: Date me, because I'm like old, rotten milk.
Lucas Werner: You're the bottle, I'm the beer, put me inside you.
Lucas Werner: You're the bottle, I'm the beer, put me inside you.

Fermentation bolsters his science: Okay ... so just bear with me on this one! If you eat cheese, you're a hypocrite if you don't date older men. If you drink alcohol, you're a hypocrite if you don't date older men. I think he also used dried fruit as an example.

So ... you're probably like, "WTF?"

Lucas' reasoning is that because cheese is fermented, i.e., old and rotten, and young girls eat cheese, then they clearly should be dating old and rotting men. Wait ... maybe I phrased that wrong. Because you take juice and you let it get old and rotten and when it turns into wine you enjoy drinking it, then you should enjoy dating old and rotting men. No, NO! Wait!! Because beer takes a few months to ferment but the bottle that holds it only takes a few hours to make .... are you understanding the science here, LADIES??

I don't actually understand the "science" at all, because it doesn't make any sense! Ravings of a mad man.

No, He's That Creepy In RL

Woman all over Spokane have complained about being harassed by Lucas Werner.
Woman all over Spokane have complained about being harassed by Lucas Werner.
Lucas Werner is banned from the Charity House homeless shelter.
Lucas Werner is banned from the Charity House homeless shelter. | Source

He acts on his impulses: Yeah, it is one thing to rant about crazy stuff online. It's quite another to act on those crazy impulses. The news wanted you to think that the Starbucks incident was a one-off.

Nah.

Lucas has a history of writing weird notes to women who don't want them. And clearly, from his constant lamenting about not having so much as a dinner date in the last 5 years, these creepy notes, his constant, bizarre online rants and his troubling scientific beliefs (which he inexplicably believes entitles him to relations with underage girls), these actions aren't getting him anywhere except further down the rabbit hole.

His brother stated online that Lucas set fire to their father's truck.

He has also been arrested numerous times, including arrests for domestic violence. Recently (January 2017), a local homeless shelter banned him and is seeking to serve him with a restraining order. So, no. He's not just spouting off online.

He is not harmless.

Bernie Sanders: Fertility God

Girls don't look up to Bernie Sanders as a leader, they just want to sleep with him.
Girls don't look up to Bernie Sanders as a leader, they just want to sleep with him. | Source

He idolizes Bernie Sanders: Lucas' Facebook page gives the impression that he really looks up to Bernie Sanders as, you know, a leader. And then you start to read his comments and the real reason for his admiration becomes painfully clear: He thinks Bernie Sanders is a sex god. He thinks that the stadiums full of young, screaming girls are because they want to bed Bernie Sanders because he is an old man, and because of ... his longer telomeres. So remember that, ladies. You didn't like Bernie Sanders because you thought he would bring real socioeconomic change to America, you just wanted to bang your grandfather. Because he will give you superior children with longer telomeres.

Hi, my name is Lucas Werner and I like to take photos of women I don't know.
Hi, my name is Lucas Werner and I like to take photos of women I don't know.
Just Lucas Werner taking more photos of women he doesn't know and sharing them online.
Just Lucas Werner taking more photos of women he doesn't know and sharing them online. | Source
Lucas Werner:  You're 16, I'm entitled to a date with you
Lucas Werner: You're 16, I'm entitled to a date with you

Their Rights vs. Our Rights

So ... I'm not talking about a Genevieve Polarski situation, where a close relative oversteps pretty much every reasonable boundary and has a relatively normal person committed to a place that subjects her to a lobotomy, repeated shock therapy and life long institutionalization.

Lucas Werner has repeatedly taken pictures of women he doesn't know, then posts them online accompanied by some pretty bizarre comments. He openly brags about stalking women. He passes strange and borderline obscene notes to women he doesn't know. He said he wants the laws changed so he can touch kids. He calls young women (women who are legally too young for him to date) bigots after subjecting them to his bizarre behavior. He demands sex from young women. He has threatened to kill himself if women as young as 15 won't have sex with him.

He is unsupervised in the community, and the community doesn't like it. The community has spoken, and yet the authorities do nothing. He's passing notes to young women he doesn't know, stating that he wants to "know what it's like to be inside [them]." Why aren't the police in Spokane trying to get this guy locked up for good?

Lucas' stepmother has expressed her frustration with the system that refuses to help him; she has come to terms with the realization that she is powerless to do anything to help Lucas or the community. She clearly cares for Lucas, although, like many people close to dangerously mentally ill individuals, there is a sense that she and the rest of his family also ignore or enable his behavior. Unfortunately, this has become a coping mechanism in a society that offers no support to either the mentally ill or their families.

I understand the very real fears that people have about involuntary committal. There were bad doctors, and there were bad hospitals. But it is inexcusable to allow a man who clearly has the inclination to rape young girls to walk the streets unsupervised! Why do we, as a nation, have to wait until the Lucas Werners of the world are stabbing a young woman in a cafe before we act on clear signs of dangerous mental illness?

Lucas Werner repeatedly soliloquizes on his desire to have sex with underage girls and has taken steps to make his fantasies a reality, and yet, there are no laws to stop this behavior? We are truly lost, if we do not protect our young people from dangerous predators. It is wrong to take away the basic human rights of young people to uphold the rights of an unpredictable, dangerous sexual predator.

Just Lucas Werner, salivating over a group of teenage girls.
Just Lucas Werner, salivating over a group of teenage girls.

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      HK 8 months ago

      Bizarrely it's the misuse of science and his insistence that he's a "scientist without a degree" that offends me most, maybe because I actually have a degree. Taking isolated statistical findings like "older men have kids with longer lives" and immediately assuming that the age is the DIRECT CASUAL factor here is a very common mistake of those who believe themselves more scientifically literate than they are. As people say, correlation does not equal causation. For example, it's feasible that men who have kids at an older age (say, thirties or forties, there's a limit because the quality of sperm deteriorates too, it's not just the mother's age that is crucial to the child's wellbeing) are more likely to be college-educated men with a secure financial background and decent education, who use birth control and are less likely to get their partner pregnant without meaning to, who approach parenthood responsibly, take time picking out a partner who actually fits them and only start a family once they're financially stable, and such marriages are more likely to produce multiple children - as opposed to men who have the opposite kind of background and might have kids more early. You would indeed expect to find a difference in the life expectancy and health of their kids, but it would be caused by the same factors that caused the differences in when they reproduced, namely socioeconomic factors, etc. Which, yeah, no shit would impact a kid's quality and duration of life.

      Science is complicated, and correlation studies with humans are among the most difficult to design, carry out and interpret accurately. There's a reason why the ACTUAL scientists' conclusions section tends to be very conservative and not very dramatic, and almost always overhyped by the media and mediocre clickbaity scientific journalism.

      I actually followed the link to a few of the studies he's cited on his FB and like... even without getting past the paywall, the abstracts sometimes state the complete OPPOSITE of what they say they do.

      He also claims the estrogen from a "young, fertile" woman would help HIS health. Somehow. I can only assume he plans to use her for blood transfusions.

      Yeah. Nobody make the mistake of thinking his "science" has any value.

      And besides, even if having relations with older men WERE the health gold mine for women, it would still be a far cry from making adult-teenager relationships okay. Dating someone with 10x more life experience than you and a power imbalance sets you up for being targeted by unhealthy and abusive behaviour. That shit isn't okay.