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High hCG Levels and No Baby Seen? Yes, There Might Still Be Hope!

Updated on March 28, 2015
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If you have elevated hCG levels and no visible baby, this page is for you.

Hi. My name is Kay. I am mom to a very beautiful girl who was diagnosed as a blighted ovum. Thankfully, despite an empty-looking gestational sac and high hCG levels, I turned down the D&C twice. We found our baby at nearly nine weeks. Are you going through something similar?

Many women are told that if their hCG levels are over 10,000 and nothing is visible in the gestational sac, they are going to miscarry. In fact, many physicians push for an immediate D&C!

While this page will not change the direction of your pregnancy, it may, perhaps, prevent you from ending your pregnancy too soon.

Read on...

My Disclaimer

I am not a medical professional. The information I share is meant to supplement the information given you by your doctor. If you feel your doctor is not doing enough for you or not willing to listen to your concerns, I strongly encourage you to take what you've learned here and get a second opinion.

WARNING: Keep in mind, this page will prove the following information wrong

A general search of Google and many ultrasound manuals say generally the same thing: If hCG levels go above 7,000 to 10,000 and nothing is visualized with the transvaginal ultrasound in the gestational sac, this is a blighted ovum (AKA anembryonic pregnancy).

One example quickly found on the web:

"At 7,200 mIU/ML, all sacs contained yolk sacs. At 10,800 mIU/ML, within all of the gestational sacs, embryos and heart activity could be imaged."

taken from Pregnancy at Risk: Current Concepts

With these levels and levels much higher there is still hope! You deserve to have no doubt before having your pregnancy ended.

...And why the textbooks are wrong!

At the Misdiagnosed Miscarriage, we have collected a number of stories to show that not every pregnancy can neatly fit into a textbook.

As you will see on this page, we have many stories from women with levels much higher than their doctors expected before seeing their babies.

My hope with this page is that you do not rush into ending your pregnancy if there are no complications. Take this information. Discuss it with your physician. Ask for ultrasounds one week apart to verify your blighted ovum. You may very well have a blighted ovum but, if so, you deserve to have no doubts ever about that diagnosis.

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Want to View the Stories of Many Women who Were Misdiagnosed?

My sincere apologies. I had many links categorized here to stories by women who had empty sacs with hCG levels between 10,000 to 20,000. Another group of stories by women who numbers were up to 50,000 with still no baby seen and, amazingly enough, stories by women whose numbers were over 100,000 before seeing their little ones. I've moved them over to my blog because it was just too many links for our new host!

Misdiagnosed Miscarriage Musings

Also, please remember, none of these stories will change the ultimate outcome of your pregnancy. These stories, however, will help you to know if you are possibly being diagnosed too soon.

Stop Worrying about Your hCG Levels!

Once the gestational sac is viewed, many doctors stop taking hCG levels and for good reason. Your numbers can rise, plateau or drop and be normal. Some women have numbers that reach well over 50,000 and some even above 100,000 before seeing their babies. Some women plateau around 40,000 and then find their baby.

What should you be monitoring instead? Your doctor should be spacing out your ultrasounds by about one week and measuring the growth of your gestational sac if there are no complications. The UK's new guidelines encourage waiting until the sac reaches at least 25mm before suggesting a blighted ovum. My own gestational sac was 28.5mm before my baby was found.

My best advice if the gestational sac is where it should be, stop fretting over hCG levels and focus on the gestational sac.

What to do?

If you not absolutely certain that you are indeed going to miscarry and if there are no complications, you can ask to wait out a diagnosis.

If you wait out a diagnosis:

- make sure you stay monitored by your physician

- be seen if you show signs of infection

- be aware that if you are anemic and are going to miscarry, you may need surgical intervention (D&C)

- get a second opinion if you are not comfortable with your doctor's diagnosis

Blighted Ovum Poll

Do you think hCG levels and an empty looking gestational sac are enough to diagnose a blighted ovum?

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If you are diagnosed with a blighted ovum with a growing gestational sac and it has not reached at least 25mm, you are being diagnosed too soon.

IMPORTANT: Ultrasounds May Lead to Misdiagnosed Miscarriages!

IMPORTANT: Ultrasounds May Lead to Misdiagnosed Miscarriages!

Misdiagnosed Miscarriages are finally making the news and, more importantly, research is beginning to come out about them!

Ultrasound Guidelines May Wrongly Diagnose Miscarriage

A snippet from that article:

"As if the worry over potential miscarriage weren't stressful enough for newly pregnant women, research released Friday shows that current guidelines for using ultrasound to determine that a pregnancy has ended may not always be accurate.

The four new studies looked at U.K. ultrasound specifications, but when the findings are extrapolated to U.S. guidelines, the researchers suggest 1 in 23 women diagnosed with miscarriage could still have a viable pregnancy."

I really believe that that figure might be much higher. For women diagnosed with a blighted ovum, something like one in five may be much more accurate.

I'd love to hear from you. If I do not respond to your message here, please feel free to message me at misdiagnosedmiscarriage@gmail.com Thank you!

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      Kay 4 months ago

      Hi Lorraine, I have two questions for you: Does the gestational sac now measure more than 25mm? Is she more than nine weeks along? If the answer is no to these questions and there are no complications, she is being diagnosed too early. Please seek a second opinion.

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      Lorraine Ortiz 4 months ago

      My daughters HCG levels are at 40,000 but the gestational sac is empty and we are now scheduled for a D&C. I feel like we are going to fast but the doctor said n hwr case she is 100 sure there will be no baby. She says with levels that high heartbeat should be seen

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      April 5 months ago

      Went to first appointment at 6 weeks 1 day to find yolk sack but no heartbeat or pole. And levels at 33,000. Already doctor considered d&c and this has to be crazy. I'm only 6 weeks! And he isn't even a ultrasound tech! I feel great no cramping or bleeding I feel pregnant and he keeps stressing me and my husband to no end. Saying well miricles happen but dont get your hopes up. I can't believe this 3rd baby and nothing close to this stress. Get second blood test today and sonagram in a few more days.

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      MamaMeg13 10 months ago

      I went for my eight week us yesterday and there was no sign of a baby. Everything else was there just no sign of a heartbeat. When I went in at five weeks, there was evidence that something was there but it was so early. I am eight weeks according to my lmp but I really am only five weeks according to conception. My doctor called and said my hcg level went from 500 to 31,000 and that I will most likely not have any bleeding anytime soon. I am due to go back to see her in one week. I am so confused at this point. Is there still a chance? I have had 2 previous miscarriages and a blocked tube. I have one healthy pregnancy though a year ago.

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      Kay 14 months ago

      Wonderful news!!!! I am so sorry that doctor scared you so early. That is just awful!

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      Regi 15 months ago

      Update: i am happy to announce that the ultrasound today show a baby and hearbeat - 6 weeks! The er doctor got it wrong! Be patient, i was freaking out for no reason!

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      Regi 15 months ago

      I had a similar situation, i thought i was 4 /5 weeks pregnant - have a history of ectopic pregnancies and i have 1 tube, went to the er because i was afraid of another ectopic they found a sac in the uterus and hcg levels at 27,000 but no baby. Doctor said its a miscarriage- i go for a check up next week on thusday, still have pregnancy symptoms.

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      Kay 16 months ago

      Do you have an update? Generally a week after the yolk sac is viewed, a baby will be seen if the pregnancy is viable.

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      Sarah 16 months ago

      Hi, I'm not sure how far along I am (dr says 4-5 wks but would be 7 according to LMP). 3 days ago my levels were 8,000. Today they're 18,000. There was only a sac and possibly yolk sac 3 days ago. Dr says my levels are too high to not see the baby. I'm going in tomorrow for another u/s. She thinks it's an ectopic pregnancy. But there is a sac in the uterus???

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      Kay 2 years ago

      I love the new guidelines in the UK. Rather than focus on weeks, they monitor the gestational sac. If it is growing, they wait until the sac is 25mm and then wait one week to verify it is empty. Doing this would prevent the vast majority of blighted ova diagnosis. Please, keep us updated.

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      Alb 2 years ago

      I went to the dr. Last week Thinking I was 7 weeks. Saw the g-sac but no fetal pole. Said I was measuring 6.5 weeks. Took blood, HCG levels were at 42000. I go in tomorrow for another Ultrasound. Praying to see something. I don't have any "pregnancy" symptoms, but I did not have any with my first until about 12 weeks, then it was just heart burn.

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      Alison 2 years ago

      I believe so. I'll find out Wednesday for sure, but I still have all the pregnancy symptoms and everything. I just want some hope..

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      Kay 2 years ago

      Is the sac still growing? I love the UK's new guidelines. They have doctors wait until the sac is at least 25mm (if it is growing) and then one week after to verify. (((hugs)))

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      Alison 2 years ago

      At 7 weeks and a couple days, I went to the er for pain, they did an ultrasound and we saw the baby, but the next day, we went to my obgyn and there was just a gestational sac. They took blood and scheduled another ultrasound next week. I got a call and they said my levels were rising too fast and too early. I don't know what that means, but I'm so devastated. If they don't find anything next week, they want to do a d&c. I'm not sure if I want to though. I'm so scared and worried. There's still hope that this can change, right ?? :(

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      Kay 2 years ago

      Eight weeks is still too early to diagnose. If there are no complications, you might want to ask for another ultrasound a week out. (((Hugs)))

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      TIFF 2 years ago

      I'm supposed to be a little over nine weeks now but on my 8 week sonogram there was nothing... Just the yolk sack and other sack. I am 20 years old and me and my husband were devastated... But today my beta levels are 50,000. But still no baby and the sack had dilated a little. My doc wants a d&c but I'm scared... Has this happened to anyone else??? Is there no hope?

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      Kay 2 years ago

      I think you need a second opinion because if no gestational sac is seen, that can mean ectopic. Those levels are awfully high for an ectopic though. You should see another doctor as soon as you can.

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      Samantha fuller 2 years ago

      I had a full period in Aug and a 3 day period in Sept. I got a positive pregnancy test end of Sept. I went to my gyn October 3rd. I spotting pinkish brownish only in my panties liners...not very much at all. They did a u/s and didnt see anything and my levels were at 2000. Well my dr said it looks like a early misscarrage. So she gave me a pill to finish the mc. Well I took a pregnancy test a week later and it was still positived. I called telling them what happen, they took my blood and my levels were at 10000. My bleeding picked up but no cramps and no heavy bleeding at all. Nothing in the u/s still. They were thinking cancer or a tumor... well i did a cat scan and notbing showed up.Well they took blood 2 weeks ago and it was at 18000. And then I started my period when I suppose to. Heavy and cramping. Well I took a pregnancy test and it still positive. So idk what's going on. I heard some woman it can take a long time to get the hgc levels down....or am I pregnant still or got pregnant again some how. No body don't understand what's going on. All the do is draw blood and repeat....I'm tired of it. I just want answers or someone who went though this too

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      Kay 2 years ago

      I have never heard of hCG levels in the million range.

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      jatona 2 years ago

      My HCG say 2000000 SK how far would that make me today

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      Kay 2 years ago

      First of all, (((Hugs))) and I am so sorry you are going through this. Unless there is an immediate medical need, you can ask to wait this out. The new standards are waiting until the gestational sac reaches 25mm and then waiting one week to verify. Please, keep me updated. Praying for you.

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      Olivia 2 years ago

      I support to be 6 weeks pregnant but the thing is I'm not regular in my periods so i went to the doctor as soon as i find out i was pregnant and they did an ultrasound and no baby the doctor sd it may be too soon so they did the hcg blood test and then another 2 days after. The hcg when up but no baby still then i stared seeing brown every time i will wipe in the rest room and 4 days after i bleed like a period but no big chunks of blood i went right away yo the er and they sd the hcg was 39950 and according to the size soc i was 6 weeks 5 days but no baby or heart yet . The er doc. Said the same thing it may be too soon to see a baby and also that i was in risk of losing my baby if there was a baby, that was in a Saturday then i went to my doctor on Monday and she did another ultrasound and no baby she sd we were going to give another week if by then there was no baby then there were going to do the D&C. But i really will like to wait cause my periods are not regular i get them every 30 to 32 days and my last period was on August the 4th and i find out i was pregnant on September the 3rd with a home pregnancy test. I'm so sad that my baby nay not be there..

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      Tonnye 3 years ago

      @Cari Kay 11: No. The dr said there was no point. Should I find another doctor? I did read your story, but the progesterone issue is what got me. I wish I knew more! I've been reading. I've had 4 children and haven't come across this before.

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      Kay 3 years ago

      @Tonnye: I encourage you to read my blog post: http://misdiagnosedmiscarriagemusings.blogspot.com... see that you are eight weeks from your other post. According to these guidelines, it is just too early to diagnose! Are you on progesterone supplements now?

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      Tonnye 3 years ago

      Oh, I was 8 weeks yesterday. Thanks.

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      Tonnye 3 years ago

      Hi. I just found out yesterday that the dr suspects blighted ovum. Only the gestational sac & "Debris" we're found via ultrasound, both normal. & transvaginal. The kicker today is that's hcg is. 16800 & progesterone level is. 7.5. Do you have any info that points to the possibility of a viable pregnancy with progesterone this low ? Thanks.

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      Kay 3 years ago

      @OUTFOXprevention1: I hope everything is just fine.

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      OUTFOXprevention1 3 years ago

      Thanks for the info. Definitely something we are dealing with now...

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      Kay 3 years ago

      @Miss_may22: Hi Miss May. I don't know about the hCG levels. Once anything is seen in the sac, they do tend to go up more slowly. Also, once the yolk sac is visualized, an ultrasound one week out by an actual ultrasound tech should give you your answer. You'll see the baby if the pregnancy is viable. Some women do have to wait a week after seeing the baby to find the heartbeat though. (((hugs))) to you. I know how difficult the waiting is. Please, stay monitored and be seen right away if there are any complications.

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      Miss_may22 3 years ago

      Hi, We had our first ultrasound yesterday after a FET cycle, it showed a yolk sac but with nothing in it. They are dating us at 6 weeks 6 days and my last hcg level went from 12800 to 16800 in 4 days. I know the levels aren't great and the ultrasound tech was not optimistic at all but is there still hope we might have a baby? We are waiting for the doctor to call us with what we do next. Thanks - missmay

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      Kay 3 years ago

      @sarah-quesnelle-9: I am sorry you are going through this scare. Fortunately, once the yolk is seen, the baby is usually visualized one week later in a viable pregnancy. So, my answer is yes, there is still hope. Please, let me know how it goes. Praying for you.

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      sarah-quesnelle-9 3 years ago

      I had an ultrasound. Technician saw a yolk sac but not heartbeat. He told me the dr would request a d&c. Bloodwork was 58,000. 2 days later bloodwork was 72,000. I go for a 2nd ultrasound on Monday (2days) and I'm praying we see something! Is it possible that I am still a viable pregnancy? Fingers crossed!! - Sara

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      Kay 3 years ago

      @michellepolitano: Oh my goodness. I apologize that this took so long to post. I was out of town. A sac should definitely have been seen with levels like that. Do you have an update? (((Hugs)))

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      michellepolitano 3 years ago

      I just got out of the ER. I found out I was pregnant after bleeding for 13 days straight; stopped after day 13. Then based on my LMP the doctor put me at 5 weeks, 1 day at the time (HCG 1276). Initial internal ultra sound didn't show anything. No baby, no sac, some thickening of the uterus lining, but not very much. The doctor was concerned. I went back in for another blood draw 3 days later; HCG had risen to 2955. Was cautiously hopeful. Started to have VERY mild cramps/aches in my upper abdomen the next day. (5w,5d) Went in for my second appointment and ultrasound at 6w1d (yesterday); again the ultrasound didn't show anything. Not even a sac. Doctor looked at my ovaries and tubes, and couldn't see anything concerning there. Third blood draw had my HCG at 10,561. Doctor was really concerned, saying he should at least see the sac with my levels being so high. He wasn't ready to give up yet though. He sent me home with orders to take it easy and come back in in a week. The next day (today) I go in to work; took it easy, spent the whole day seated. Made it through the day and had just left my supervisor's office where I told her I was having complications when I went to the bathroom before leaving and I noticed the blood. Not a lot, but enough to scare me. I went to the ER. They did a very through exam and more blood work. Though my levels had again risen to above 11,000, they could not find anything again. I have very normal looking lady parts. They were in contact with my doctor who recommended a termination via methotrexate. He is 100% convinced that I am having a non-viable/ectopic pregnancy based on the ultrasound, my bleeding, and the increasing cramps...Could he be wrong? Everything I read on here says misdiagnosed with sac...Can you be misdiagnosed without a sac in the uterus?

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      anonymous 3 years ago

      Glad I found this site! It's giving me some hope, as I am going through a similar situation right now. I went into the doctor 10 days ago thinking I was about 8 weeks pregnant because I was having some spotting. The doctor did an ultrasound and found 2 sacs- one was empty, the other had what seemed to be a yolk- the doctor said what she was seeing was consistent with about 5.5-6 weeks along. I know the date of the last possible time we could have conceived was 7 weeks ago, which would make me about 9 weeks. (I know this date for sure, because I broke my foot a couple days later and it was weeks and weeks before making a baby would have been possible, if ya know what I mean). So based on that date, the doctor agreed that from the looks of the sacs it didn't appear promising. I had blood work done 10 days ago- the day of the ultrasound- and again yesterday (I was out of town for a week starting the day after the ultrasound so I didn't a second blood draw or the results until yesterday.) I was beginning to come to terms with the thought that I was going to miscarry. And then I came home to the results from the blood tests. My original hcg 10 days ago was 26,000 (dr. said that's consistent with the 6 weeks she had seen on the ultrasound) and had the test from yesterday the hcg was 87,000. I have another ultrasound scheduled in 2 days. I did pass one single clot of blood about 4 days and have had no spotting since- the doctor who called today said that could have been that second sac that was empty, and the sac that had the yolk could actually be just fine. I am hopeful, I just can't get the timing to add up.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Do you have an update?

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Thank you so much for sharing your story. Have you shared it on the Misdiagnosed site? I have heard a number of stories now of a twin being lost and, thankfully, they refused the D&C because they did eventually find the other baby. I'm so glad you found yours!

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Thank you for this information! I was just told by my Dr. that I am probably miscarrying because my HCG was 18,539 and they only saw the sac and yolk. I am so upset and I know that it still might be a miscarriage but I hope these stories get me through the next couple weeks.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      In 2005 I missed my cycle went in early for 1st appointment. At the exam doctor said I was measuring 13 or 14 weeks when I could be no more than 3 to 41 She immediately scheduled an early sono to "see if there is only one in there." that was a Thursday. On Saturaday, I was in a car accident. NOT my fault I was hit from behind. Called 911 they never came to the scene. Went in that Monday for the sono with the first doctors husband. He did the sono in the office and said he didn't see a heartbeat. he had blood work checking hcg it doubled as it shoiuld have, still he "didn't see what he was suppossed to see." He said it may be molar pregnancy. I went 6 more times to him he scheduled a d&c to be done on the 7th visit. I am a teacher was teaching and told my pricipal, who told her firend a femae doctor. She got me in THE SAME day at the hospital for a sono transvaginal & regular. I had fraternal TWINS, something had happened with one baby, but the other baby was PERFECTLY fine is 8 years old today!!! Needless to say I switched doctors immediately. I will never know if the car accident cause anything or not. She said the machine in the doctors office are not nearly as sensitive as the ones at the hospital. SO, ALWAYS GET A SECOND OPINION & NEVER HAVE A D&C unless you no beyond a shadow of a doubt your baby has not survived. TWise

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      DebMartin 4 years ago

      You are a gem!

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      Nnadi bonaventure Chima 4 years ago from Johanesburg

      Highly informative lens ,thanks for sharing

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @blessedmomto7: I replied differently to this but must be under somebody else's comment. I am so sorry you had to go through that. Often blighted ova are diagnosed correctly. It's those misdiagnosed ones we want to find! Congratulations on all seven of your kiddos. Children are such an amazing blessing and gift!

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @delia-delia: Thank you so much!

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @tahirmahmood: you are welcome :)

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @NoYouAreNot: I so agree!

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @Dressage Husband: I'm so sorry for your losses. Unfortunately, often a miscarriage is just that. Thank you so much for your comment.

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      Stephen J Parkin 4 years ago from Pine Grove, Nova Scotia, Canada

      This is an extremely difficult area to treat correctly as the guidelines are only that. I think it is vital for the women to go in well informed and with awareness of their own bodies. Often they are the best judges, if they feel that things are OK often they are. It is essential to have a doctor that you trust and can talk to on a personal level at times like this. Well done on the Lotd. I can relate as my wife actually miscarried three times.

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      NoYouAreNot 4 years ago

      This page shows once again how science is not definitive, but an ongoing process of discovery, where things are constantly discovered and knowledge is being completed every day.Just like with new medicines: sometimes they are highly praised, until accumulating evidence shows that they may even be dangerous. This has happened a lot, and it still does.Should we not trust science? I say, proceed carefully. Have a second, a third, a fourth opinion. Why? Well, the first and the second physicians may totally agree, and you'd think that you should follow their advice. Then, the third or the fourth one suddenly disagrees, and even gives you evidence to his claims to the contrary. I've been there.

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      tahirmahmood 4 years ago

      thanks for informetion

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      Delia 4 years ago

      Congratulations on LOTD! What a nicely done lens... We written and informative

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @mcsburlea: May be needed one day (but hopefully not) :) Thank you.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @IMKZRNU2: Thank you!

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @clevergirlname: I know. I was shocked when I ended up misdiagnosed. Now, I get to help other women who might be as well. Thank you for your comment.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @Mandy Stradley: Mandy, yay!!! Have you shared your story on the Misdiagnosed Miscarriage site? Many women with numbers like yours are pressured into D&Cs. Your story is an important one!

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @Natural_Skin_Care: I think, for the most part, doctors do a phenomenal job. This is just one area where no studies have been done and it's up to each women to be certain before having her pregnancy ended. Thank you.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @CrazyHomemaker: Thank you so much.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @Rhonda Lytle: Loved your comment. Thank you so much. I am a huge fan of doctors but, like you said, they are human. Sometimes just being informed can make a big difference. Thank you.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Thank you!

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @blessedmomto7: Unfortunately blighted ova are too common. By ten weeks there really is no doubt. Many women end up needing a D&C after 10 weeks. I like to hear that not all women need one then. Thank you so much for your comment.

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      blessedmomto7 4 years ago

      Great info on this lens. Unfortunately, I did experience a blighted ovum at 10.5 weeks. My ultrasound showed no baby and I miscarried naturally. (I refused a D&C.) I did go on to have 2 additional children after my blighted ovum. Now I am blessed to be mom to 7.

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      Mary Stephenson 4 years ago from California

      Congratulations on LOTD. Very informative for young pregnant women or those wanting to be.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Very informative lens. Congratulations on getting the Purple Star and LotD!

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      Rhonda Lytle 4 years ago from Deep in the heart of Dixie

      This is a shining example of the best the web has to offer, real, honest information presented to empower others to make more informed choices for themselves. I wish more people would understand that the medical community is a business and they are human. They make mistakes. They operate under strict guidelines that seldom take into account the individual idiosyncrasies of any one person's body. God bless you for this gift to women everywhere.

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      CrazyHomemaker 4 years ago

      Absolutely GREAT lens! I love people like you who question the 'textbook' doctors. I am one, too. Don't be afraid to get second opinions. Keep spreading info that you believe will help!!! Congrats on LOTD! This is well earned.

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      Natural_Skin_Care 4 years ago

      Amazing story. Sometimes medicine gets it wrong.

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      Mandy Stradley 4 years ago

      My hcg was 30000 and empty sac. I was told to be prepared to go to the hospital on vacation in Mexico. I'm 27 weeks now and everything is fine. Congrats on LOtD!

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      clevergirlname 4 years ago

      Wow! That's a lot to take in - I read the stories too! I had no idea this was happening!

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      IMKZRNU2 4 years ago from Pacific Northwest

      Very well done lens! Thanks for educating all of us on a subject that many are unaware of. Congratulations on LotD!

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      mcsburlea 4 years ago

      interesting lens. I am still too young for children, but it was very interesting to read.

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      Faye Rutledge 4 years ago from Concord VA

      Congratulations on LotD!

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @GrammieOlivia: Thank you so much!

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @SteveKaye: Thank you :)

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @katiecolette: It really is. If I had listened to my doctor, my daughter wouldn't be here now!

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      GrammieOlivia 4 years ago

      A big congratulations to you for taking on a topic that many would have run in another direction! Many many women suffer unnecessary consequences by technology being seen as the ultimate answer to everything. Bravo to you, to show everyone that this is not the case.

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      SteveKaye 4 years ago

      Congratulations on receiving the LOTD. This is an amazing story.

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      katiecolette 4 years ago

      Often doctors rely on theory, textbooks, and tests too much. In cases of high HCG levels and no baby seen, it sounds like the 9 weeks wait is so worth it.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @Diana Wenzel: Thank you! I so appreciate your comment.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @HappyMomof4: Just getting the word out there is so important. I get emails every so often from grandmothers-to-be wanting to help their own daughters through this scare. Having that support is huge!

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @marktplaatsshop: And that is only a small fraction of them! Thank you.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @Jemjoseph: And stories like ours help get that word out there. Thank you!

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @GregoryMoore: Absolutely! Thank you for leaving a comment.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @JoanieMRuppel54: Life is precious! Thank you so much.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @marktplaatsshop: Thank you :)

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      Renaissance Woman 4 years ago from Colorado

      This is such a critical topic. May lives be saved because of the greater awareness you are initiating. I think of a precious baby that will be born because a mother read this and waited. Priceless!

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      HappyMomof4 4 years ago

      Thank you for this very informative lens. I had no idea this was happening. My youngest child is a very healthy 21 year old and I haven't kept up with what is going on. Now I feel more prepared for when my children will be carrying my grand children.

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      marktplaatsshop 4 years ago

      Wow this is amazing how many misdiagnoses are made, great that you have written about this here, and thanks for sharing, you may protect a lot of women who will do an D&C to soon, with this article

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      Jemjoseph 4 years ago

      I know from my own experience that many pregnancies are not at all textbook. It's always good when possible to research the possibilities in order to make a well informed decision. Congrats.

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      Gregory Moore 4 years ago from Louisville, KY

      Congrats on your LOTD. Children are a blessing. It sounds like it would be a good idea to wait and see instead of acting too early.

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      Joanie Ruppel 4 years ago from Keller, Texas

      A very good perspective and lots of information for those needing it. May you be guided to the right decisions at the right time. Life is precious! Congrats on LOTD.

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      marktplaatsshop 4 years ago

      I have not read your lens yet but will, but wanted to Congratualte you on LotD,

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @Pat Goltz: I have heard a few women now with similar stories. Yet, another reason I am not a fan of D&Cs. They do have their place in extreme situations but, women have been having natural miscarriages for how many years now? They need to not push the surgical intervention as much as they do! Thank you so much for sharing.

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      Pat Goltz 4 years ago

      If a woman is not bleeding or running a fever, there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to intervene in any way. If the doctors would stop doing internal exams, we would all be better off. Ultrasounds aren't all that accurate, and SHOULD NOT BE TRUSTED in early pregnancy. Prior to ultrasounds, I had an experience that should be informative. I got pregnant in July. At the end of September (not aware I was pregnant), I had a hemorrhage and went to the hospital. The next day they wanted to do a D&C, but I turned them down. The following month, I bled slightly, but unbeknownst to any of us, I conceived again in November. I had not miscarried, and a doctor I trust told me to leave it alone. I felt movement in early December, very strong, and then nothing. In March, we discovered I was pregnant with a living child. The other one had died, but my body took care of the remains. The second pregnancy stopped my bleeding from the problems with the first. Because they didn't realize I was pregnant again, they wanted to do a D&C then. Again, I refused. I had that baby one year later, in July. He is now an adult, completely normal, has a fifth degree black belt, earns his living by running up and down electric poles, and has three children of his own. My case is not common, but I do know of one case where babies were conceived two months apart, and both survived to middle age that I know about. If they offer you a D&C, REFUSE, PLEASE! They are way too eager to intervene. They should first do no harm. If I had allowed them to intervene, they would have killed one of my babies, and maybe me.

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      Daygin12 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Okay I had my appt still nothing inside sac but my HCG went from 20,442 to 27130.8 and my progestrogen is now greater than 40. I am on supplements but that isn't new. Since my HCG didn't double should I deam this a non viable pregnancy? I can say my clinic is positive that this isn't viable. I am going to wait this out and stop all meds and let nature take its course. Let me know what you all think!! Thanks so much :)

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Hello Everyone!, I currently completed my second IVF cycle on May 1st. We transfered two 5 day embroys. On the 10th I got a postive with an HCG of 91.4 and then had another test on the 13th and it was 276.9. I went in for an U/S and blood work and you can see a sac but nothing in it. My levels are 20,442 but they were very concered about my progestrogen levels. They went from 37 down to 14. I have another appt tomorrow morning and the clinic seems to think it's not a viable pregnancy. I feel that I may be 4 weeks along but they have me down for 5 weeks which doesn't make sense to be even if the embroy is 5 days. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions? Of course I'm sick with worry b/c this journy has been two long years!

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      hi my story might be a bit long so I apologize in advance but I could use some prayers and some peace of mind. I found out I was pregnant and started to spot and panicked. boyfriend rushed me to the ER I had an HCG of 2400 and they said I was measuring at about 5 weeks. No baby only gestational sac and they said this was normal and to come back in 48 hours for another blood test. came back and my levels had risen to 5015. I went for my first OB visit yesterday and she says in the ultrasound that I had that i'm only measuring about 7 weeks one day and that according to the last ultrasound I had I should be like 8 weeks. yolk sac and fetal pole were visible but no visual heartbeat. I'm so worried. the doctor was very pessimistic and insisted we should see one by now and that it's probably not a viable pregnancy. I feel no symptoms of miscarriage. I feel just as pregnant as the day I found out. sore breasts, some nausea, very tired and frequent urination. nothing but a mild occasional cramp in my abdomen that I've been feeling all along that fades as quickly as it comes and has no discernible frequency. no bleeding except that initial spotting that I had that prompted me to go to the ER. I did another HCG and they told me it was 10000 and that they should definitely be seeing a heartbeat. I've heard all of your stories and I have a hard time believing my little one is gone. I don't feel that it's true and I just can't give up hope yet. I go in for another ultrasound on Tuesday. wish me luck ladies I'll need all the luck and prayers I can get. anyone else have this happen?

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Did you get those new hCG levels back? Since your cycles are irregular, you may not be nine weeks yet in which case, it is too early to diagnose. Please, stay monitored and keep us updated.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @anonymous: They should see the sac by now. Please, keep me updated. I am praying for you.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Hello,I really appreciate this site. I'm 6w 3d pregnant with baby 5. I was having some mild cramps last week without any vaginal bleeding. They did an U/S and saw nothing..no sac, no nothing. They saw a shadow by my right ovary and said it could be ectopic. I had labs done and my hcg was 2500. I had a repeat u/s yesterday, they saw nothing and said the dark area by my ovary was bigger. I had emergency surgery last night because they said it was for sure ectopic. After surgery I was told that the tubes looked fine and that the shadow was a cyst/ mass on my ovary but it didn't look like an embryo. Now I'm waiting for more labs. My hcg went from 2500 on Friday to 5400 on Monday. The doc said he's very confused and they wanted me to have a d&c last night during the laparoscopy but I said no way. This waiting game is awful. Deep in my heart I know that there is a baby in there and honestly feel like there may be twins. I know it seems crazy, but I knew you ladies might understand what I'm going through. Thanks again for the hope, even when things seem bleak.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Hi reading all this posting it's giving me hope My LMP was feb 23 having really irregular cicles Positive pregnancy test 3-29-13 and 4-3-13 By the dates I should be 9 weeks, we went to our first visit and no HB the midwife seemed concerned so she sent us to get an ultrasound intra and extraOnly gestational sac was found :( they started telling us about options to miscarriage which was terrible, I asked to get my hcg levels testes which turned out to be 38,000 today they took new sample and I'll know the results in the morningAny ideas? Should I still have hopeThank you

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @Cari Kay 11: Thank you! I am not 9 weeks yet, but I did have another blood draw tonight and another u/s, still nothing in the gestational sac, and I will find out my numbers tomorrow. :) Still keeping hope, trying not to be too scared ;)