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ACK! I've Got Perioral Dermatitis

Updated on March 28, 2015
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My Experience with Perioral Dermatitis

At 39 years old, I was diagnosed with Perioral Dermatitis. I've been living with the diagnosis several years now but I've managed to clear it up and would like to share with you what I have discovered.

UPDATE ONE YEAR LATER: I am still Perioral Dermatitis free. I've learned what to do when I start seeing any pink and have been flare-up free even after two occasions where Prednisone was needed.

NEWEST UPDATE TWO YEARS LATER: I have come to realize that I am very likely allergic to Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS) or a product that is paired with SLS. If I use any product with SLS as one of the first ingredients, my face starts to break out in this rash. Because scarring is now a serious concern, I am going natural. I've started using only SLS-free products and the rash is completely gone. As a result, I really believe this could be an allergy. As I learn about new products, I'm including them on my SLS Allergy page. Please, feel free to suggest your favorites. Not only will it help me but the many people who read that page. Thank you.


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Could This Be Causing Your Perioral Dermatitis?

I find this study very interesting. At the time I developed this dermatitis, I was living overseas and had switched from my Estee Lauder anti-wrinkle products to Olay because it was easy to find. Now I am trying to figure out if they use this preservative.

Warning over 'epidemic' of skin allergies from chemical in cosmetics and household products

and another article:

Is this the skincare chemical flaring up your eczema or dermatitis?

What Is Perioral Dermatitis? - gotta admit, it sounds better than "muzzle rash"

So, you're looking for a short but sweet description of Perioral Dermatitis? That's easy. It's a rash that develops around the mouth and nose which gives it the "muzzle rash" nickname. The rash may also surround the eyes as well. As you can well imagine, this is not the most attractive look!

For some reason, women in their 20's, 30's and 40's seem to be the ones most affected. This may very well be due to the amount of moisturizers and make up we tend to use. Also, for some reason, women who are more prone to blushing may be at higher risk for developing this rash.

If you've used topical steroids (i.e. hydrocortisone), you are more likely to develop Perioral Dermatitis).

Some other causes of this rash may include sunlight and fluoridated toothpaste.

The rash doesn't usually itch but it can be a little tender or painful if touched.

Some doctors may mistake Perioral Dermatitis for Rosacea or other skin disorders. If you suspect you have Perioral Dermatitis, see a Dermatologist and do not use steroidal creams to treat the rash.While the rash may disappear temporarily with the use of such creams, it will come back much worse than before. Many of the stories online indicate that physicians will typically misdiagnose Perorial Dermatitis so scheduling a Dermatologist visit is probably the best way to go.

Were you using any topical steroidal creams when you were diagnosed with Perioral Dermatitis?

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My Story

-Or- How I made a bad situation much, much worse!

We lived part-time in the Caribbean thanks to my husband's job. That summer, we were out enjoying that tropical sun and humidity just about every day. Around the end of July, I started experiencing what I thought was a heat rash. Being no stranger to heat rashes, I simply stopped using much of my makeup and just continued to use a light moisturizer. The rash didn't really clear up, but it didn't get worse either.

Fast forward a month, after having this rash for over a month, I finally came to the conclusion this was not a heat rash (doesn't take me long, eh?). I thought maybe it was some fungal thing but I didn't really have anything handy to treat it so I started playing with different creams already in our medicine cabinet.

Kids, don't try this at home

One cream in our medicine cabinet is Mometasone Furoate (a corticosteroid). My son's allergist had prescribed this for my son's latex allergy outbreaks to bring down facial swelling. Upon the first use, almost immediately, my rash disappeared. I used it for a few days and then stopped. My rash started coming back so I applied more. This cycle continued for a month and a half. I'd use the cream and the rash would disappear. I'd stop use and it would come back quickly. Finally, even the cream wasn't stopping the rash. That's when I knew I needed to see a dermatologist. Because my son had been misdiagnosed for almost half a year by regular physicians before a dermatologist correctly diagnosed psoriasis, I knew to skip the middleman and go straight for the dermatologist. Now that I know what this is, that was a smart move. I've read many accounts online of non-dermatologists misdiagnosing this condition and <> prescribing steroidal creams.

The moment my dermatologist saw my face, he instantly knew what this was. He told me the Mometasone Furoate was actually making the condition worse and to stop using it immediately. He prescribed Solodyn (an antibiotic) and Clenia. Fortunately, he gave me some samples of the Clenia to try before I turned in the prescription.

Rash around your mouth and nose? Be very careful if your doctor prescribes any steroidal creams. If it is indeed Perioral Dermatitis, you may make it much, MUCH worse!

How I Got My Rash-Free Face Back

I immediately started using the Clenia and taking the Solodyn. However, because I stopped the Mometasone Furoate cold turkey, for the next three days, I had a major rash surrounding my nose and on my chin. It was horrible. I couldn't cover it with make up so I just gritted my teeth and carried on as best I could. Unfortunately, being a mom of busy kids, I couldn't just hide at home. I did notice folks staring at my rash. For awhile I just simply explained it but after a day, I found I really didn't care any more so I just let people wonder what was happening. Only one person asked what was wrong with my face.

During the first day, I really researched this condition online. I wanted to learn all I could and find out what I could do to make it better.

A number of people seemed to think apple cider vinegar (ACV) helped the condition so I tried a little experiment.

On one side of my face, I used the Clenia. On the other side of the face, I used the apple cider vinegar. By the next day, the side with the ACV was visibly less red. The side with the Clenia was actually an angrier red. Keep in mind, this was day two of going off the steroidal cream. I stopped using the Clenia, although I did stick with the Solodyn, and just used the ACV. Within several days, there as only the faintest outline of pink and my skin was incredibly soft.

There is one drawback to the ACV, well, actually two. First of all, when you first start using it, it stings like anything. However, I was more than willing to do whatever I could to get rid of this rash. Drawback number two, as my five year old daughter pointed out, is that it is stinky.

I did take a few more suggestions from the internet. I really cut back on sugar and I stayed out of the sun. In less than a week, my rash was gone. And, I'm not sure if this is from the Solodyn or ACV, but my face looks really good right now.

I'll update this page in the future if my rash returns but, if you don't see that update, I continue to be Perioral Dermatitis free and I hope that you are as well.

Why Apple Cider Vinegar is Worth a Try

Perioral Dermatitis is a bacterial infection. I've found that anytime I have strong antibiotics for any other condition, my dermatitis clears. Of course, nobody wants to keep going on antibiotics so that is why apple cider vinegar is worth a try. If you change the pH (acidity) of the skin, the bacteria no longer has a hospitable environment. Yes, it can sting quite a bit when you first go after that rash but, for many, with continued use, the rash begins to fade.

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Could I possibly be PD free?

I am pleased to say I went off the cortisone cream and had the perioral dermatitis explode on my face, I am now rash free. I do notice that if I have too much sugar, I get a little pink around the nose now. However, I've found a product that seems to be really working for me. I bought the Eucerin Redness Relief soothing cleanser and I really like it.

Want to insert a little note here. While the Eucerin seemed to really work during my initial bouts, I do have a full SLS allergy now and have to avoid it. Sadly it contains SLS. I haven't tried it since that time so I don't know how I'd react but do want to caution you. If you suspect your problem is SLS, you should probably find another product

The cleanser is recommended for people with Rosacea. I then have also switched from my usual moisturizers to the Aveeno Ultra Calming Moisturizer. Eucerin does make a Redness Relief moisturizer but I bought the Aveeno before I noticed it. I'm really happy with the Aveeno but I'll try the Eucerin when I run out.

I've stopped using the apple cider vinegar. I really think the ACV worked best when I had the initial breakout. Once I got the breakout under control, I didn't notice it doing too much.

So, in a nutshell, I seem to be staying PD-free by limiting sugar, using my Eucerin Redness Relief cleanser once a day and using the Aveeno Ultra-Calming Moisturizer in the mornings.

Half a year later I am learning what to avoid to trigger a reaction. My skin doesn't seem to like new lotions anymore so I am sticking with the Aveeno and Eucerin. All in all, I'd say I am PD free!

One year later Despite having steroidal shots and being on Prednisone after an especially bad spider bite (black widow?), I've remained PD free. Whenever I notice some pinking around my mouth or nose, I now just use apple cider vinegar and it clears the pinkness and any rash right up.


Have you tried apple cider vinegar (ACV) on your rash?

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YouTube

Dr. Chris Schach discusses Perioral Dermaitis. Worth watching.

Can't Find the Products You Need In Your Area? - check Amazon

Sometimes I am able to get a pretty good deal with my free Prime shipping on Amazon.

Love Tigi's SLS-free Products

I have found that a sure way to start up my perioral dermatitis is to use soaps or shampoos with SLS as an ingredient. I have tried many shampoos and just love Bed Head's Sulfate-Free Superstar shampoo and conditioner. Other SLS-free shampoos leave my hair tangled and difficult to manage. Not so with Superstar. If shampoos are a problem for you, you might want to check this one out.

Love the Kiss My Face Products

I have yet to try a Kiss My Fact Product that causes a reaction. I know some of these products can be found in the natural foods aisle of my local store as well so take a look. If they are not available in your area, Amazon has a large selection.

Some Great Shampoos and cheaper too!

At the age of eight, my daughter has been diagnosed with Perioral Dermatitis as well! These products do not break the bank and she loves them! January 2013 Update: I've been using these now for over a year and have stayed pretty much Perioral Dermatitis free! Recently, in the interest of saving money, I've switched over from BedHead to the new Loreal SLS-free products. I love the way my hair feels. You should be able to find these in most grocery stores and pharmacies.

Do you think SLS in products may be causing your Perioral Dermatitis?

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I hope this page helps somebody else. Of course, everybody is different. You may have found a different approach that worked for you. Please, feel free to share what you have learned with others researching this condition.

If I don't reply to you here, please feel free to e-mail me directly at CariKay11@gmail.com Thank you.

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      Kay 20 months ago

      My son started using ACV to clear up his acne and it has done an amazing job. I'll pass on the Aquaphor tip. Thank you!

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      Amy 21 months ago

      Thank you so much for posting your story!!

      I'm dealing with this for the first time.

      I started with steroid creams

      I thought for sure it would go away, and it did, but as soon as I stopped it came back immediately.

      After using acv for a few days it was like a miracle!!

      Although my face was very, very, dry, and flaky, I found that putting aquaphor on about 10 mins after acv helped alot!!

      I diluted the acv with water 50%\50%

      Thank you again!

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      Kay 2 years ago

      Interesting. I've discovered that I react to Burt's Bees. It creates blisters around my lips. I avoid that stuff like the plague now!

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      sunnygirl6179 2 years ago

      I found out what was causing mine. It was the EOS lip balm I was using. That stuff is terrible for me, and a whole lot of other people. Nobody suspects it because supposedly it is all natural.//

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      Kay 2 years ago

      I just put it straight on the cotton ball and apply it to the red areas. I have pretty much figured out my triggers now so it is pretty rare I have to use the ACV...thank goodness! I hope it works for you.

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      Lynne 2 years ago

      Should the ACV be used neat or diluted with water. If dilutes, what ration of ACV to water?

      Many thanks for all the information and advice here.

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      Kay 3 years ago

      That is great news! I know forgoing products with SLS has been hugely beneficial for me as well.

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      Robyn 3 years ago

      I stopped using toothpaste with fluoride

      I stopped using products with SLS

      I used only spectro gel

      I used violet extract ( from Herb Farm )

      The rash cleared in one month and never came back

      I had the rash for 7 long months

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      cjmmeyer 3 years ago

      I've been wanting to share this w/ others for a while. I read many helpful sites like this years ago to help w/ my perioral dermatitis. When all dermatologists failed me, sites like this helped me get rid of aggravating agents and to use products like calendula which saved me! But... nothing helped more to completely rid me of this than stopping GLUTENS. I had no idea there was a link. My holistic MD told me "glutens" as soon as she saw my face. I felt immediately that she was wrong, I did fine w/ glutens, but after testing myself (blood test was negative, like it is in many; saliva test was borderline +), I decided to stop them. It's been almost 2 yr and not a bit of PD! I had another friend who also blamed her PD on glutens, but somehow I ignored that too. My MD who suggested this herself had PD from glutens, it was her first indication of a problem. Anyhow, I have wanted to share with others to try and drop this toxic food from your diet, and see! Note that it takes months for your body to rid itself of the toxic glutens and to begin to heal from your gut. Good luck!

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      Kay 3 years ago

      @shay-marie: Thanks for the tip! I'll take a look for it!

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      Dawnmarie4 4 years ago

      CariKay, this is Dawnmarie and my website address for the powdered sugar and olive oil has changed and I just wanted to make sure you had it for your site in that little box that mentions that therapy. The new site is called A Little Bit of Sugar and the site is sugarwasafriendofmine at wordpress . I have been perioral dermatis free for....drum roll please...since the first week of June 2013...going on 5 months real soon here.

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      Shay Marie 3 years ago from Southern California

      I'm slowly cutting SLS from my products too - so far I've taken care of my face wash, shampoo, and toothpaste. Next up: body wash and hand soap. I've found that Trader Joes and (surprisingly) Costco carry a good amount of SLS free products. If you haven't tried Trader's Joe's "All-in-one" face wash, you should give it a go. It's fabulous.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @Dawnmarie4: Congratulations! That is awesome!

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @julieannbrady: My husband and son struggle with eczema as well. Not an easy thing to deal with. Thanks for your comment :)

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      julieannbrady 4 years ago

      I honestly had never heard of this type of dermatitis before. As a child, both my sister and I had eczema and had a dilly of a time clearing it up.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @Cari Kay 11: Very cool. Thank you. Oh, and I think neem might have some benefit...something to think about. I used it during the last breakout and noticed that the low level itch, flushing and sensitivity between breakouts is gone and that was the only thing I changed during the last break out...it's added to the post at my blog. Another lady tried the neem as well and was happy with it. He comments are under Tigrette or Tricia. She's the one who brought up the suggestion.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @anonymous: I really like the Kiss My Face products and find they are really wonderful for my skin. If you share your link here, I'll feature your page :)

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      I've struggled with skin issues for most of my life. I'm featuring this lens page on my new lens for Kiss My Face products.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Dawn, thank you so much for posting. Your information is invaluable and I am adding your link! Thank you!!!

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Oh Jasmine, I accidentally deleted the link. Could you post it again. Thank you.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      I have suffered with PD for 2 years and have tried EVERYTHING you can imagine for it. The ONLY thing that works is extra virgin olive oil and powdered sugar. You make a lotion paste with these two ingredients, put it on your face and leave it on all day and night until its gone. Typically will take 5-9 days to dissapear. THIS WORKS AND IS A MIRACLE!!! This is the ladie's website that I found it on. I promised if I found a cure I would post it and here you go!!

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      drmork 4 years ago

      Great lens. Very informative and educational. Thanks for sharing!

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @Cari Kay 11: Thanks Cari,over three weeks and counting...perfectly clear skin...I don't think it is going to come back. It's such a good feeling to be able to touch my face without thinking about spreading bacteria and stuff constantly for the first time in five years.

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      Kay 4 years ago

      @anonymous: This totally makes sense. It makes your skin less hospitable for that bacteria. I'm so glad you found a solution!

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Hi, I commented in mid December after finding this page, while searching in frustration for more things to try prior to caving in and going on a serious course of oral antibiotics from my doctor. I am happy to report some positive news stemming from this page. Firstly after reading about the sugar connection, I cut all sugar from my diet. This didn't appear to help at all and in fact my problem seemed worse than ever, I had an outbreak almost constantly with no breaks in between. Ten days ago I bought a bottle of apple cider vinegar and started taking a tablespoon in the a.m. diluted in warm water. I applied it topically to my entire head in the morning and did not wash it off. I also repeated this in the evening before bed after washing my skin. The results were immediate and surprising- clear skin for the first time in five years. Five years of topical medication which never fixed the issue. This is incredible! Let's see if it keeps up. Try it today! You may be as amazed as I was.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Thank you for the information. I'll try ACV :) Happy new year!

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      KimGiancaterino 4 years ago

      Helpful information and a beautifully designed lens. Happy 2013!

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      This is good information, I think I like them. :)

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      Fay Favored 4 years ago from USA

      I learned about using Apple Cider Vinegar as a healing agent years ago. My mother never had skin problems, but that may be due to the fact that she took a tablespoon or two of it throughout the week.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      I have been suffering from Perorial Dermatitis on my face since age 38. I had it on my scalp before that for a good ten years. It doesn't seem that unusual for people to get it in their late thirties. Also another common thread seems to be suffering from cradle cap as a baby which my mother always talked about. I think some people are just genetically predisposed to it. I get quite nasty muzzle outbreaks, and sometimes it is bad enough I don't leave the house for a couple of days until it starts to heal up. The spots come up in almost the exact same places as routine. It was fine when it was on my scalp but over the last five years it has spread to my face and slowly from just a cuple of dots to sometimes on my chest and in my ears. If I get a week or two with out it it feels amazing. Unfortunately it is nearly constant now. I can tell when it is starting because it either starts itching, or it feels klike there is a cold silver coin pressed to my skin. I know to go and shave immediately which seems to help. The only way I have seen a differnce is using Bactroban which cuts the outbreak and heal time from up to 12 days down to 4-5 days. Nothing else I have tried works including anti-fungals. The best thing is scrupulous hygiene. Also Bonne Belle T-Gel for the hair seems to make a difference if used regularly. It is very frustrating and makes you feel hideous.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      After 2 years of several meds and lotions... I finally have clear skin from this nasty mess. Spironolactone 100mg by mouth two times a day + Minocycline 100 mg by mouth two times a day + Aczone topical = clear skin! FINALLY!

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      Kay 5 years ago

      @Lemming13: My son has scalp psoriasis. I know that is just not fun.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Attn Cari Kay!!First off, thank you so much for taking the time to help others and informing us! So glad I found this. I recently developed what I think is PD for the past couple months. I figured it would go away, but hasn't. I haven't tried anything new and haven't been to the doctor for financial reasons. I got married in Mexico in July this past summer. We spent just over two weeks there in the perfect weather. Up until then I always had pretty clear skin. No problems other than a blemish here and there. About a month after our return I developed this scaly rash on the left and right sides of my chin, below the corners of my mouth and around my mouth. I hate to be dramatic, but it's devastating. It's really hurt my confidence as I find my self staying home much more. I'm really curious if this had something to do with Mexico as I've been wondering that ever since I returned. I figured it was a product I used at the resort for 2 weeks, but after reading the comments, I understand it could be due to climate. I'm going to try your remedies and really hope to see improvement! My question to you is about the sugar... how much (grams) of sugar do you personally try to limit yourself to a day? Can you give me some examples of forms of sugar you do eat? Also, what toothpaste do you use?Thank you Cari :)

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      Lemming13 5 years ago

      I don't have perioral dermatitits, just what seems to be mild psoriasis on my feet and ears (of all places!), but I know how much these things can affect your life. Well done on making such a helpful, informative and encouraging lens.

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      Darcie French 5 years ago from Abbotsford, BC

      Thanks for the great help for folks suffering from perioral dermatitis!

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      Kay 5 years ago

      @anonymous: The Aveeno Ultra-Calming Daily Moisturizer is the best! I use that and love it. Funny how I used to spend so much on Estee Lauder and other department store lotions and Aveeno is the best! Thank you so much for your tips here. Greatly appreciated!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      I have had POD for about 5 weeks, and am fighting it with help from your blog's advice. Eliminating SLS-containg shampoos and toothpaste was a big help. It is improving drastically, and i want to thank you and endorse two products that have been mentioned, and recommend one more. First of all, Eucerin Redness Relief Soothing cleanser and Aveeno Ulta-calming daily moisturizer. Also, try Trader Joe's coconut butter cream. Use Eucerin cleanser ( a tiny bit ) every 2-3 days. Not necessary to use every day. (in my experience). Always clean your washcloth first in HOT water to kill microbes. Pay close attention to the leading edge of the rash...follow it up your laugh lines around your mouth. The Aveeno helped soothe the rash. The BEST thing which i have only used for 3 days is the Trader Joe's coconut butter cream. It is the most economical and provided instant improvement. Wash your face first, then apply the cream twice a day at least. Everyone's skin is different, but i had to post this (my very first posting on any blog) because i was so grateful for your help and wanted to add another piece of advice.

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      NAIZA LM 5 years ago

      I was having a rough, flaky skin breakout lately and I'm in my mid 20's. I really don't know what to do with it. I'm using cleanser and moisturizer for a couple of months now. Taking a bath for time to time is really advisable too since I was living in a tropical country. Terrific lens you got here and tips as well. :)

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      CoolFool83 5 years ago

      Thanks for sharing this. Can be a really rough skin disease.

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      Treasures By Brenda 5 years ago from Canada

      Thanks for the information &amp; introduction to Perioral Dermatitis. I needed the definition that you included because I'd not heard of it before.

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      Kay 5 years ago

      @LynetteBell: I know so many people now with various skin conditions who are now SLS-free and it helps!

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      LynetteBell 5 years ago from Christchurch, New Zealand

      I have suffered from various rashes such as in the hair or hairline. There are only a few shampoos I will ever use now because of it...all LSL free!

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      Miha Gasper 5 years ago from Ljubljana, Slovenia, EU

      Thanks for sharing your story and some great info.

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      Gloria Freeman 5 years ago from Alabama USA

      Hi thanks for the great tips and info. Blessed and added to my lens...Squid Angel flinnie.

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      yogendrachavda 5 years ago

      Thank you for sharing your knowledge via this big but quality lens.. Liked :)

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Hi there - very interesting article - thank you. I have had some kind of nasal/facial rash on and off for years but recently it has got much worse. I also have dry/itchy eyes and my opthamologist said it was rosacea and has given my metro-cream. After 5 days I can see that it isn't working at all and I think he has misdiagnosed me - so I'm going to try the cider vinegar. How often did you use it? Best, Fiona

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      Linda Jo Martin 5 years ago from Post Falls, Idaho, USA

      I'm so glad you found a solution to Perioral Dermatitis... Apple Cider Vinegar has helped me quite a lot, with rashes and other things.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @Cari Kay 11: Thanks to all the info I've read on here I didn't use the steroid creme. I've never used steroid creme on my face so I know that isn't part of my reason for this but I'm glad I started looking into this site b4 I used the creme!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Do you know if there is a difference between PD and Rosacea? My doctor said I have PD and prescribed Doxycycline and Metrogel topical. Have you heard anything about Metrogel topical?

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      Kay 5 years ago

      @anonymous: I think the same things aggravate my dermatitis. It is so helpful to find out what is helping other people. I so appreciate it!

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      Kay 5 years ago

      @anonymous: It is embarrassing. When I came off the steroidal creams, I had an ugly scaly rash around my nose and mouth. Add to that that I couldn't wear any makeup at the time and it was awful. At first explained to everybody what was wrong but I just finally gave up and, if the asked, I explained. I hope you find your answer!

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      Kay 5 years ago

      @anonymous: So good to know. I do hope it clears up completely for you.

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      Kay 5 years ago

      @uglyface2012: Oh my goodness, you might want to find a new dermatologist. This will control it but once you go off the cream, it will really flare up and get much worse.

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      uglyface2012 5 years ago

      I am a bit confused. A dermatologist just diagnosed me with PO. He prescribed Hydrocortisone 2.5 as well as an oral antibiotic (minocycline) sp? Is the hydrocortisone creme going to make it temporarily better only to flare up worse when I stop using it?

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      Tony Bonura 5 years ago from Tickfaw, Louisiana

      This was an interesting lens. I found it to be educational, and hope I never get perioral dermatitis.TonyB

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      I've been suffering from PD on and off since moving to Australia from the UK in February, I think it has been triggered by the fluoride added to the water here and then made worse by my first reaction (as eczema sufferer too) to slap hydrocortizone cream on it! Anyway for past few days I've been using Graham's Calendulis Plus Cream (think this is an Australian product, but you may be able to buy elsewhere) which contains 100% natural ingredients including calendula, propolis, manuka honey, and emu oil (yes - a bit gross, not one for the veggies!) and the PD has markedly improved. It's less red, less sore, bumpy and less dry and flaky. Fingers crossed the PD will go completely in a week or so!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      This is by far the best information I've found. Back in early August I started to get a small red patch on my lower right side of my mouth. I've had it before and have received oral medication for it and it usually goes away within two weeks. I've had it three time over a 6 year period. The doctor I saw would just look at it and prescribe medication. I never asked what it was. This time when I got it I decided to change derm. Dr. for personal reasons. I explained to the new dr. that i've had this before but have no clue what it is called. She looked at me and said she wasn't convinced that I need oral medication to fix it. So she prescribed Promiseb and Actone. I've been religiously using this crap for over a month and not a darn thing has changed. I thought I had Seborrheic Dermatitis based on what she gave me. I think I have Perioral Dermatitis. This sounds much more like what I'm experiencing. At this point i'm annoyed and frustrated but I'm glad I found this site and now will stop putting all the topical creams on my face and call the derm. Dr and request other medication. Perioral Dermatitis is sooooo embarrassing! Plus my is flaky sometimes to it makes it look so much worse. I just like to thank you for your website and all the info you provided. I think it's time to change derm. Dr again. :)

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      My Perioral Dermatitis has been all over my chin, down my neck and on the outer corners of my eyes. My Dermatologist prescribed Doxycycline (generic for Vibramycin) and topical 2.5% Hydrocortisone ointment. After the 1st day of treatment my face practically cleared up. I am not allowed to "wash" my face, only rinse it off with water and I HAVE to wear sunscreen everyday. I use True Naturals SPF50 Unscented Face sunblock in the pump. The consistency is weird, but it works really well. By day 3 of treatment the little bumps that had been "just under the skin" for 2 years were pretty much gone. I have also noticed that sun, sugar, sodium laurel sulphates, heat and traditional saponified soap agrivate my dermatitis. I have 8 more weeks of treatment to go, but I'm hopeful.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      I just wanted to say thanks for posting the information on this page. I have found it helpful and I feel better hearing that others PD has gotten better.

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      oiloflife 5 years ago

      This lens is very interesting and I'll have a look at your other lenses as well!

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      WriterJanis2 5 years ago

      I'm glad you were able to find some kind of relief. This condition sounds awful.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Hi there... it's my first time posting on a forum like this but I wanted to share my experience so far. I've had Rosacea my entire life, so skin "stuff" has been on the back of my mind pretty much every waking moment of every day of my teen and adult life. About four weeks ago I started getting the mild symptoms of Perioral Dermatitis (PD): the severe burning, itching, sensitivity, and the redness around the lips and chin. I attribute it to sports-related activity as I wear a helmet with a chin-strap and a mouth-guard with my uniform a few times per week. Nothing over the counter helped, and actually it made it worse. It got so bad last week that scheduled a visit with the Dermatologist last Tuesday and she confirmed that PD is indeed what I had. After reading up on PD incessantly, I made a personal decision NOT to take the Cortizone topical cream and the harsh oral antibiotics she prescribed. Instead I decided to take the all-natural way first before diving into the scary world of harsh pharmaceuticals prescribed to me, since my body and skin are both very sensitive to medicine and antibiotics. Well, it's been ONE week and I can assure you that the following combination so far is helping me A TON:-- Do NOT use any make-up, moisturizers, face creams, ANYTHING that is synthetic. Leave your skin free of any soaps, washes, solutions, topical creams, etc. Trust me!!!-- Start out by gently cleaning your face with ORGANIC honey... I know, it sounds weird, but just start by washing it with warm water and the honey (trust me, it cleans your makeup off too!)... it leaves your skin super-soft and moisturized.-- When you are ready, start adding a plain yogurt mask to your cleaning regimen, preferably after gently washing your face with the honey. Try mixing the yogurt with the honey--it makes for a great, soothing, deliciously-smelling mask. Do that once in the morning and once at night.-- After a day or so of the honey and yogurt, add some ACV (Apple Cider Vinegar) to your regimen. For the last 4 days, I have used it as a toner, as well as taking it internally. As a toner, use a dab of it on cotton or soft tissue over the affected area for about a minute, and let it dry, It WILL burn as all hell, but just let it be. The burning wears off as the effect of the naturally-acidic properties dry off. Then...-- Take a swig!!! The properties in the ACV are VERY helpful with balancing the properties of your skin. I don't claim to know much about that part or the ACV regimen, but I can tell you, my skin has NEVER felt his happy. Nor my tummy's digestion. It's done something to my body that I can't explain... just read up on it.-- Finally, I have been taking vitamin E and calcium supplements since last week. I have also been using the oil of the vitamin E to dab upon the affected area overnight. It feels funny because it's an oil, but eventually it dissolves into the skin and it makes it feel supple and happy :)Don't forget to drink tons of water and to also stay away from spicy foods and sulfites... these are killer for PD.So far like I said it's been 6.5 days since the worst of my symptoms and I feel 95% back to the normal way I felt before. I will stress to try the natural way before you try the prescription creams/medicine. Best of luck :) I know it's frustrating as hell.

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      June Campbell 5 years ago from North Vancouver, BC, Canada

      I do not have perioral dermatitis, knock on wood. I have recently been diagnosed with bullous pemphigoid, so I have some experience with unpleasant skin conditions.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Before you go crazy like I did with home remedies or trying to find shampoo and tooth paste without sls ...go to a dermatologist. I thought I had perorial derm too. I ended up being prescribed an anti fungal shampoo and cream along with protopix an anti inflammatory. Both cured my muzzle rash in 5 days.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      It must be miserable to have perioral dermatitis, and I hope that researches will find a cure. It would make life better for many. :)

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      suzanne-meredith1 5 years ago

      @anonymous: That's great! I actually knew you were using natural products from what you had stated before and was responding back to Alls:) These reply boxes are so confusing sometimes since there's no way to know who actually replied to whom in the line up. Anyway, it's great that you're PD-free! Oh, and I'm curious about the plastic thing. I personally use plastics and am fine although for environmental reasons I have been trying to use less lately and I'm mosty BPA free except for the odd straw at a restaurant, but I was just wondering if giving up plastics actually mattered in treating your PD and if you come into contact with them you break out or if when making the connection between chemicals and PD you opted to not use plastics around your mouth along side not using toxic cosmetics because they were one more toxic slew that could cause a problem and you didn't see any need in risking it(I've definitely been there before). I was wondering because I've not seen it mentioned anywhere else and I really wanted to know. Thanks a ton!

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      suzanne-meredith1 5 years ago

      @anonymous: You'll want to take a break from those products definitely. You're toothpaste will need to go;there are a lot of natural toothpastes out there, you just need to be really careful to read the ingredients. Periobrite is a good clean one that can be easily picked up at the healthfood store. I know it seems crazy, but honestly you don't need toothpaste; it's just one of those useless products. A good scrubbing with a brush and water will get your teeth nice and clean. Aside from the toothpaste, make sure your facial cleanser, moisturizer, sunscreen, lip products, makeup, sunscreen, toner, shampoo, body wash, and so on are totally clean of sulfates, artificial cinnamon flavoring, and petrochems(esp. paraffin wax and petrolatom). It's such a bummer that this is happening to you right before your trip but to make it easy on you for changing your cosmetics routine up just be simple with everything you get. There are a lot of great and high quality natural products available online, but there are plenty that can be found in stores aswell. Dr. Bronners bodywash and bar soaps are a great option, coconut oil is awesome for removing makeup, carrot juice and other fruit juices like pineapple juice are fun as toners/cleansers when you're not trying to remove a bunch of makeup and grime, straight up shea butter, coconut oil(so long as you don't have skin that easily clogs which straight coconut oil as a facial moisturizer can sometimes be an issue with) or jojoba oil for a moisturizer, and for lip products badgerbalm is good and organic. Also since you're going to the beach you'll want a little sunscreen so badger has clean sunscreen, although I like it a lot of people don't care for how goopy it is and the white cast it leaves, so you might want to try out their new water-based formula which would probably work really well at bwing more traditional in feel. For shampoo there are several great natural brands that are sulfate free out there like miessence shampoo and naturoli shampoo, but since you're trip is coming up alaffia sells several products that can be found in wholefoods and offers a great sulfate-free shampoo lacking some other not-so-awesome ingredients and preservatives. I don't know how often you wear makeup but if you don't want to give that up all together, zuzu luxe offers a nice mascara and compact foundation that has great reviews online. I personally LOVE Vapour Organic's liquid foundation but it's a bit on the pricey side at $48 a pop and can only be bought online from what I can tell, but each bottle lasts me 5 months and I use it daily. Also, even though I think health-wise a natural deodorant's important to lessen the toxic tole on your body, I don't think what you use on your underarms actaully matters for PD as it won't be coming into contact with or near your face, same as with hand soap. That said, just bc something doesn't touch your face directly it could still cause problems such as if you apply a traditional petroleum-based lotion to your hands and then soon after touch your face, the irritants in there could transfer. One last thing, I don't know how long you've actually had the PD but when you make the product switch be sure to give your skin time to see improvements; it could take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks to go away. I imagine it shouldn't take more than a few weeks though, probably sooner especially if you haven't had the rash too long. If you want to speed up the healing process try not using anything on your face to let your skin breathe as it can eliminate the bacteria in the rash itself faster that way, also I don't imagine using cider vinegar could hurt anything and would probably kil the bateria even faster. This really is a lifestyle switch but honestly I think it's a truIy good one bc you are going to be all the healthier for it by eliminating all those nasty chemicals form your routine. Oh, and since you're going to Cancun I am guessing you'd probably be swimming in a pool; just to be safe I'd recommend only swimming in the ocean and not the pool bc the combination of chlorine and other pool chemicals *might* irritate the PD. I've showered in chlorinated water before when traveling and although I did have a slight irritation show up on my cheeks bc I have generally sensitive skin there wasn't any PD, but I know that all the different things they put in the pool aside from the chlorine could irritate the condition so while you're trying to clear it up I think it's best to stay out of there. This is more of a precaution so if you miss pools you can always experiment once the rash is gone to see if whatever chemicals are in there trigger anything bc I don't really know if they do. I think I covered just about everything for you, although if you have any other questions or product recommendations definitely ask. I know a lot of people switching to natural products miss the high-end feel of what they're using so I know of some companies that might be a little bit more fun than applying straight food and veggie oils to your face, not that that's not fun in itself;)

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @suzanne-meredith1: I just got diagnosed today:( I am super sad. Is it really something that I always have to deal with? I use olay and covergirl. I don't have a specific shampoo I use all the time. Are they ok? Thanks for you help. I leave on our vacation to Cancun in 4 days- great timing:(

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: When mine started flaring up, I found relief by putting plain, organic yogurt on it whenever I was at home. Just leave it on and gently wash it off when it dries. It helped me for some reason, not sure if it'll help anyone else. Also, I put Weleda Baby Calendula Oil (bough on Amazon.com) on my face immediately after washing. Calendula is supposed to be calming. Other suggestions (again, that worked for me): stop using anything plastic near or in your mouth (wooden toothbrushes on Amazon.com) &amp; make sure all cosmetics have truly natural ingredients.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @suzanne-meredith1- I agree! Many people don't realize that the "natural" products they're using really aren't that natural. I should have clarified that I don't currently have PD - b/c I use only 100% natural products...and because I avoid plastics in or around my mouth. I use Aubrey Organics shampoo and conditioner, Nature's Gate toothpaste, and everything else is from www.justnaturalskincare.com. For make-up, I use Bare Minerals. I love Just Natural stuff - it's a bit expensive, but lasts forever. I just bought detangler that will probably last me the rest of my life.

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      suzanne-meredith1 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Hey, I don't mean to constantly pop up here, but I was wondering how natural you tried to be w/ your cosmetics. I know a *lot* of people honestly think they were using really clean products like jasons, tom's of main, avalon, and such but they really weren't. These brands still have several products that contain sulfates(it's not just sls and sles that are the problem, other sulfates are too since I'm guessig it's the sulfuric acid involved in the process) among other things. Also many people look to still use unnatural shampoos, lip products, and what not bc they think that it's just what comes into direct contact with your facial skin that matters. I think the main things to look out for are petroleum products in skin care (there are LOTS of those), sulfates, and fluoride.Do you mind telling me all the products you use, maybe I could help:) It might not always be a cosmetic link for people but I feel like it probably is because pd shows typically around the eyes, nose, and mouth which are the thinnest areas of skin on the face that are most vulberable to products and bc pd is so substantially more common in women yet now the percentage of men is increasing right along side the higher amount of products that men are using. Good luck!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Cat our stories could not be more similar! Accutane, perfect skin for 2 years and now struggling with pd for one year. I am pretty good about using all natural products but nothing has worked. Finally broke down and went to the derm to get stupid face creams and pills, of course no luck. My skin is super sensitive so I can't put much on it without causing irritation. My derm suggested patch testing to see if I'm using something I'm allergic to. I honestly want to go on accutane again!

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      Kay 5 years ago

      @suzanne-meredith1: My initial rash was pretty heavy around my nose. Every rash since then has primarily been on my chin. It'll start to pink up around my nose but by that time, I've really made sure to avoid most soaps and it clears up again. Hope this helps.

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      Kay 5 years ago

      @suzanne-meredith1: My initial rash was pretty heavy around my nose. Every rash since then has primarily been on my chin. It'll start to pink up around my nose but by that time, I've really made sure to avoid most soaps and it clears up again. Hope this helps.

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      myamya 5 years ago

      Thanks for sharing, great lens!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Thought I'd share my situation regarding meds and the return of my PD. I was on Accutane for 6 months and everything cleared remarkably. I had clear, PD-free skin for about 2 years. Then, one day it started coming back. I hid/dealt with it for a while until after about a year it started getting really bad. I know now that it was b/c of some steroid cream I thought was helping take it away. I currently avoid plastics (in or around my mouth: wooden toothbrush, etc.) and I also only use 100% natural cosmetics (shampoo, toothpaste, soap...everything - I like justnatural.com products, but Aubrey organics work, too). While I was on Accutane and for the two years after when my PD started reappearing and getting worse, I was not using all natural products. I was using whatever I happened to pick up at the store. I was also using plastic (straws, toothbrush, water bottles, etc.) So, that's probably why my PD came back. I avoid plastic like the plague.

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      suzanne-meredith1 5 years ago

      @suzanne-meredith1: I was also wondering if when the rash came back after you stopped the antibiotics and acv for a while if it came back in the same place as before. By googling I've had trouble figuring out if it always shows up in the same spot or altleast some of the same location each time it reoccurs for people. As far as I can tell I've been pd free but I do still get 1 or 2 pimples around my mouth but they cycle out and usually scar a tiny bit just like normal pimples, but lately I've had quite a few more showing up around my mouth although they cycle out just like normal pimples do and I have quite a few clogged pores and closed comedones there so I'm almost certain none of what's showing up is PD. It's just when you have something so upsetting as pd(especially as bad as I had it with the steroid) it can stress you out a bit each time you see a bump or two show up. Sorry about all the questions and thanks so much:)

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      suzanne-meredith1 5 years ago

      Hi, I was wondering how long it took for your PD/sls allergy to show up after quitting antibiotics. I'm asking bc it's been 2.5 years since I quit antibiotics and I've been using natural skin care since then. I hope I'm not speaking too soon, but from the looks of it my PD's gone. Thanks a bunch!

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      suzanne-meredith1 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Hi, Thanks for getting back so quickly:) Its crazy how much of a burden most of us put on our bodies both through our diets, the pills we take and the crazy amount of toxins we slather on on a daily basis. No wonder so many health and skin problems are popping up. I'm actually looking to get serious about starting 811 tomorrow. I'll probaby have some low fat cooked vegan meals a couple times a week at first but for the most part keep it hcrv. I can definitely agree with not being so strict. Of course I agree with keeping it vegan and low fat, but some people(myself included) worry about the occasional spice they use in a recipe being raw and get so knit picky. I know that whenever I've tried to start 811 I've always stressed out about being perfect with it and worried that I heated up the water I was washing the fruits and veggies with too much(silly), worrying that I had a bit too much fat, or thinking the occasional pasteurized juice is the worst thing I could possibly have and I end up quitting within a few days. I also have a problem putting off lifestyle changes bc I think it's too hard at the time; all I really need to do is just bite the bullet and do it since I'll be all the happier for it.

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      suzanne-meredith1 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Hi Deanna, I have a hunch it's fungal related too, but I have a feeling that your PD has subsided because you went on the antibiotic Diflucan which eliminated the fungus or what not that caused the rash, but the effects of the antibiotics I'm betting will eventually go away, probably in a few months or so. From what I've read that's usually what happens when people take antibiotics for it. I'm curious of how "natural" the products you were using were. I've noticed that a lot of people think they've gone natural with their products but they've still been using some sort of sulfate in their shampoo even if there's no sls(jason's, avalon organics, and a few other health food store shampoos have them in there). Also some people don't realize that petroleum products are an issue, at least for a lot of people with PD, so they still use moisturizers or even lip balms and lip sticks with it in there so they're naturally not going to notice an improvement when going natural. I'm not saying that's the case with you, but I have to wonder if that's why just eliminating sls didn't work. Did you *completely* go natural with your products before trying the medications or did you just eliminate sls and fluoride, etc? Also I'm thinking the underlying cause of PD is an allergy to cosmetics which is brought on by some fungal issue in the body or a toxic overload through stress, poor diet, etc, which is probably why antibiotics, acv, and such seem to work atleast temporarily. It's kind of a complicated theory, but I imagine that's probably why it seemingly suddenly comes about for people.Best of luck, Suzanne

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      Kay 5 years ago

      @anonymous: I am so sorry you are going through such a terrible time. This makes me think there may be multiple causes to PD. My daughter has developed it now and we've found cutting out SLS works for her as well.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      I had a terrible case of perioral dermatitis for one year. I tried everything on this site, nothing helped. I finally did one month round of Accuatane. Then took a month off. Then I took large doses of Diflucan for a month. I started using Obagi facial cleanser (got from the derm) and the evil PD has been completely gone for 6 months.Although I tried it, I never believed eliminating SLS could help (it did not),as I run out of the natural products, and re-introduce my old favorites...my face isstill clear. (I missed you, cinnamon crest!)This has made me believe PD is fungal related. Fungus can be very hard to kill.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @suzanne-meredith1: Hey Suzanne!That's awesome, what you say totally makes sense to me.I would definitely say it's a combination of both the low fat raw diet and natural products without long lists of ingredients. Our skin is our bodies third kidney so when inflammation appears, it is an immune response to fight off toxicity. So the diet and cosmetics are both key factors - the diet cleans up the body, strengthens, purifies and detoxifies, and the natural products minimize our exposure to chemical irritants. For those of us who are prone to skin inflammation, it can take a long time to detoxify to the level where you are no longer hyper sensitive to some chemicals. But if your body tells you it doesn't like something, it can't be very good for it, so why go back? In my personal opinion, everyone should be avoiding the chemical laden cosmetic products, SLS, fluoride etc... they are totally unnecessary and with a small amount of effort we can get healthy natural alternatives for everything that are just as effective and affordable. I actually spend less on my all organic natural skincare and makeup than I did on all the cheaply made mainstream chemical garbage I used to use!I now look at a product and think "hmm what would happen to me if I ate this?" and if the answer is "I think I'd be really sick!" then I don't think I should be wearing it for my skin to absorb.On the topic of the food... I think the 811 diet is great diet guideline but a lot of people promoting it out there get too stuck on doing it PERFECTLY and which can turn you into an uptight control freak - and I could see it happening to me when I tried to follow the diet to a T and obsessed about eating perfectly. I try to relax and remember that food is to be enjoyed and if we worry too much about it we are causing our bodies more harm than good. I eat by the guidelines of: eat lots of fruit. eat savory raw meals for dinner (raw veges / greens / salads etc) or more fruit if I'm not sick of the sweet foods by end of day, try to practice proper food combining, eat till I feel satisfied and eat often - I snack a lot and don't like the 811 idea of gorging on excessive amounts in one sitting which puts a lot of strain on the digestive system, I would rather have a steady flow of snacks, and I am lucky my lifestyle allows me to eat on the go and fruit is very convenient for that. I do like to keep my fat intake low, I eat a small serving of fats like a quarter avocado or Tahini salad dressing etc.. once a day, if I eat more - oh well, enjoy every bite! If I eat less- awesome! Keeping it stress-free and fun is the key :-)Hope that helps a bit xx

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @suzanne-meredith1: Hey Suzanne!That's awesome, what you say totally makes sense to me.I would definitely say it's a combination of both the low fat raw diet and natural products without long lists of ingredients. Our skin is our bodies third kidney so when inflammation appears, it is an immune response to fight off toxicity. So the diet and cosmetics are both key factors - the diet cleans up the body, strengthens, purifies and detoxifies, and the natural products minimize our exposure to chemical irritants. For those of us who are prone to skin inflammation, it can take a long time to detoxify to the level where you are no longer hyper sensitive to some chemicals. But if your body tells you it doesn't like something, it can't be very good for it, so why go back? In my personal opinion, everyone should be avoiding the chemical laden cosmetic products, SLS, fluoride etc... they are totally unnecessary and with a small amount of effort we can get healthy natural alternatives for everything that are just as effective and affordable. I actually spend less on my all organic natural skincare and makeup than I did on all the cheaply made mainstream chemical garbage I used to use!I now look at a product and think "hmm what would happen to me if I ate this?" and if the answer is "I think I'd be really sick!" then I don't think I should be wearing it for my skin to absorb.On the topic of the food... I think the 811 diet is great diet guideline but a lot of people promoting it out there get too stuck on doing it PERFECTLY and which can turn you into an uptight control freak - and I could see it happening to me when I tried to follow the diet to a T and obsessed about eating perfectly. I try to relax and remember that food is to be enjoyed and if we worry too much about it we are causing our bodies more harm than good. I eat by the guidelines of: eat lots of fruit. eat savory raw meals for dinner (raw veges / greens / salads etc) or more fruit if I'm not sick of the sweet foods by end of day, try to practice proper food combining, eat till I feel satisfied and eat often - I snack a lot and don't like the 811 idea of gorging on excessive amounts in one sitting which puts a lot of strain on the digestive system, I would rather have a steady flow of snacks, and I am lucky my lifestyle allows me to eat on the go and fruit is very convenient for that. I do like to keep my fat intake low, I eat a small serving of fats like a quarter avocado or Tahini salad dressing etc.. once a day, if I eat more - oh well, enjoy every bite! If I eat less- awesome! Keeping it stress-free and fun is the key :-)Hope that helps a bit xx

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      suzanne-meredith1 5 years ago

      @anonymous: I've actually been 811 curious for some time(love megan elizabeth's videos btw, they're so helpful). I was wondering for your PD was it simply giving up the bad cosmetics that cleared it up for you or was it the combination of raw low fat with natural skin care. I had this years ago when I was 14(just turned 20) and for several years used a steroid cream to "treat" it thanks to my dermatoligest thinking it was just regular eczema I guess and needless to say after two years of steroid use my skin was a total mess. After visiting another dermatoligest I was taken off the steroid cream and put on antibiotics and metrogel for a few months which took care of that and then I found out about natural skin care and for the past 2.5 years have been PD free (knock on wood) without any antibiotics or other treatment. So I imagine by now the antibiotics would have lost their effect and it would have come back so I'm thinking the only thing that really mattered for me was completely cleaning up my cosmetics routine. For the past few days I've had this theory that much like many other allergies and conditions developed later in life perhaps it was candida or just some general toxic toll taken on the body through diet, stress, bad cosmetics etc that our bodies eventually can't handle any longer and then we develop the cosmetic allergy which results in the PD much like random onsets of celiac's disease, ibs, etc. Especially since the location of PD is typically on the more sensitive areas of skin and those most heavilly bombarded with beauty products it makes sense that it would be, atleast partly, cosmetic. Since I definitely have candida right now bc I eat a fair amount of processed and high fat vegan junk food despite my knowledge of 811 I am betting that if I used something w/ sls or petroleum products in it the PD would come back. I don't know how true it is, but it's a thought. So anyway, I guess I wanted to know if when you said getting rid of the candida was what took care of the rash for you was it that in combination with clean products or if it was more like the clean diet eliminated the allergy in the first place. I know this was long and I hope this makes sense, but I was curious.Thanks so much, Suzanne

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Thank you so very much for all of this great information. I just wanted to add one thing that has worked wonders for me. CALIFORNIA BABY CALENDULA CREAM seems to be a miricle cream for Perioral Dermatitis. I was at my wits end with a giant red handle bar mustach shaped rash. Nothing was working. I tried this cream and the redness started disappearing over night. I know how hard this can be to live with and I know different things seem to work for each individual, but if I can help one person out by passing along my success with this product I'm happy to do so.

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      Kay 5 years ago

      @Cari Kay 11: Sorry, should have clarified that I meant refined sugars!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Thank You Soooooo much for all this info!!!!!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Hi Michelle, That's not a silly question at all. I would not recommend cutting all sugar, our cells need the glucose for fuel. Eliminate all refined sugars for sure, they don't do any good for the body. The best sugars for you are the simple ones from fruits. Please don't let anyone tell you to stop eating fruit, fruit will help you to heal faster than any other food and will detoxify your body, it would be more beneficial to reduce your fat intake and cut dairy products, keep up the fruits so that the sugars can pass through your blood efficiently without any negative effect on your blood sugar (too much fat will coat your cells and block the absorption of those healthy sugars which is what can lead to problems like Candida. If you have any candida symptoms - which I did when I had PD (and PD can be candida related), check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weB4oDynoWo . Here is a video that goes into a bit more detail on the sugar stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3f8a6bBbG4Since eating LOTS of raw fruit and greens along with using Sulphate-free skincare and flouride-free toothpaste, I am now symptom-free . I know it may seem like big changes but when you have the PD to look at in the mirror each day, reminding you that your body is not functioning at its best, I found it easy to be motivated to do whatever it was going to take. Try the natural nappy rash creams too, like Weleda Diaper Cream, they can calm the rash down. Most people with PD will find the problem comes and go for years because the sensitivity which results in PD is a symptom of a bigger issue internally. So diet improvements and detox are a great way to clear the PD long term and be overall healthier.For anyone interested in the diet side of things, youtube is a great resource to learn more about healing with raw foods. This video series from Dr. Robert Morse helped me so much to understand my body better (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-R2JMbXCLY). I wish someone had given me this information years ago as it would have saved thousands of dollars, all those years of searching for some miracle lotion or potion, and several rounds of antibiotics which left me worse off than before . It's common sense that if we are healthy on the inside we will be healthy on the outside and we need to recognise the signs our bodies are trying to show us. :-)Good luck with whatever you do and I hope you are PD free really soon!! It sucks!! xx

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Hello again. Sorry if this is a silly question but I just can't wrap my head around the no sugar thing?? Everything has sugar even fruit! Any info would help. Thank you.

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      Kay 5 years ago

      @anonymous: I think cutting out sugar in general just might be worthwhile. Once everything starts clearing up, you can slowly reintroduce it to see if comes back. I hope you get this cleared up soon!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Wow just read your story! It felt like i was reading about me! I used my sons medication as well. Same age and everything it's unbelievable. I plan on going out tomorrow and buying ACV and all the bed head products. I know people have talked about sugar I am interested to know is it refined sugar? or any sugar? Thank you for posting your story.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      IN JUST A FEW DAYS IT WAS HEALING AND GOING AWAY!!! I had a small outbreak and resorted to trying several different creams to try to make it go away as fast as possible (dont do this). I also used a steroid cream that made my problems worse. I changed to Cetaphil cleanser and I tried rosacea treatments that did not work. I then was given clindamycin lotion with the protopic (for rosacea), and doxy by mouth and still no relief. After about 5 months of this I started my own remedy relief. LOOK! I noticed that after I brushed my teeth my Perioral Dermatitis was worse. I also noticed that it was worse after I washed my face with Cetaphil. Well, I got some non-fluoride toothpaste, Neutrogena Deep Clean (which is what my face was used to before the breakout) instead of Cetaphil, and the next day it was drastically disappearing and healing. I quit the Protopic because my issue wasn't rosacea but I did continue to use the clindamycin lotion after I washed my face each morning and night and I continued the doxy by mouth. The main thing I have found is that you have to be consistent! Whatever you do, do it and do it always. I also found that showering everyday is best (not a bath). There's something about head to toe washing in warm water every morning that just cleans your pores best. Also, don't try new products/lotions, stick with what your face is used to. Routine is key! When I try a day without make up, my face actually gets worse. If you wear make up, wear it every day (I use a Neutrogena acne foundation that I really like). Also, I use a foundation brush now as oppose to a sponge pad thing. As far as the toothpaste goes, I will eventually start back using some with fluoride. I may try a plain white paste (no gel or funky flavors) once a week, to twice a week, to every other day... etc. This worked for me and maybe it will work for you too. Good luck to you!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      IN JUST A FEW DAYS IT WAS HEALING AND GOING AWAY!!! I had a small outbreak and resorted to trying several different creams to try to make it go away as fast as possible (dont do this). I also used a steroid cream that made my problems worse. I changed to Cetaphil cleanser and I tried rosacea treatments that did not work. I then was given clindamycin lotion with the protopic (for rosacea), and doxy by mouth and still no relief. After about 5 months of this I started my own remedy relief. LOOK! I noticed that after I brushed my teeth my Perioral Dermatitis was worse. I also noticed that it was worse after I washed my face with Cetaphil. Well, I got some non-fluoride toothpaste, Neutrogena Deep Clean (which is what my face was used to before the breakout) instead of Cetaphil, and the next day it was drastically disappearing and healing. I quit the Protopic because my issue wasn't rosacea but I did continue to use the clindamycin lotion after I washed my face each morning and night and I continued the doxy by mouth. The main thing I have found is that you have to be consistent! Whatever you do, do it and do it always. I also found that showering everyday is best (not a bath). There's something about head to toe washing in warm water every morning that just cleans your pores best. Also, don't try new products/lotions, stick with what your face is used to. Routine is key! When I try a day without make up, my face actually gets worse. If you wear make up, wear it every day (I use a Neutrogena acne foundation that I really like). Also, I use a foundation brush now as oppose to a sponge pad thing. As far as the toothpaste goes, I will eventually start back using some with fluoride. I may try a plain white paste (no gel or funky flavors) once a week, to twice a week, to every other day... etc. This worked for me and maybe it will work for you too. Good luck to you!

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      Lorelei Cohen 5 years ago from Canada

      I had not heard of Perioral Dermatitis before. I do suffer some severe skin issues on occasion though so know how awful it can be when your skin is inflamed. I started using shea butter lotion as it contains a natural antioxidant and anti-inflammatory within it and my skin has been very good since then.

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      JoshK47 5 years ago

      Very well-presented information you've put together here - thank you very much for sharing your story! Blessed by a SquidAngel!

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      Kay 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Mine was more of a dry rash. You may want to get a second opinion. I'm sure your doctor is wonderful but couldn't hurt to find out what another Dermatologist has to say.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: My experience didn't seem anything like this with the pussing or blister like symptoms. So I would say no, but I'm also not a doctor, and I also think this disease is slightly different for everyone who gets it. I still swear by the Aveeno Baby Soothing Relief Diaper Rash Cream as the best treatment. I've also started using a little bit of Argan oil, it was actually recommended to me by someone at Ulta. A combination of both has kept me symptom free for about three months now!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      hi!just ben reading all comments about perioral dermatitis!i'm still unsure westher i have it or not!!its so frustrating!i started last september with spots on my chin which spread all around my mouth n nose!i went to my doctor who is also dermatologist and she has given me teracycline tablets for the last 7mths-which clears my face but i can always see under my skin on my nose what appears to be a sort of blister/spot but then when i stop taking the antibiotics some of them come to the surface and puss can be sqeezed out while others i can still see under the skin!!!!i'm going back to my doctor next week but this really gets me down-do you think i have prerioral dermatitis???