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The 10 Worst Things About "Twilight"

Updated on January 6, 2009

"Twilight": The Subject of Widespread Blind Worship

The world has been bewitched... by vampires!

Stephenie Meyer's new series "Twilight" has topped the "Best Sellers" lists for months now. The books are raved about by the media and by every female reader who has ever craved a romance novel with a fantastical twist. Meyer has been hailed "the new J.K. Rowling" and has enjoyed incredible fame and fortune in the wake of the staggering success of this series.

And I do see some similarities between the two deified authors of popular young adult books -- similarities that lie mainly in the juvenility of their writing styles.

While I may well be opening myself up to attack for having the gall to publicize my criticisms of the "Twilight" series, I feel it is my duty as an avid reader to do what I can to stop the blinded masses from mindlessly worshiping this drivel. If I can make even one person apply reason to the love they lavish upon these books and admit that, while they are enjoyable, they are not, by any means, great works of literature, then this lens will have been a success.

Please note that this critique is of the original book, "Twilight". While I have read the others in the series as well, the same complaints I had had about the first book carried into the others, so I will focus on only the original novel for the purposes of this lens.

Wait -- I'm A Fan, Too!

Fun reads, for sure... but great literature? No way!

I want to make it clear that I actually liked these books very much... on an incredibly superficial level. I enjoyed reading the stories because I came at them knowing in advance that they were most likely going to be nothing more than poorly-written and -developed potboilers. Having anticipated that I would be severely disappointed were I to expect skillful writing and development, I came away from the series with an appreciation for the most basic points of the plot: girl falls in love with a good vampire who has taken a vow to never drink human blood.

That aside, these books were beyond terrible on a number of other levels: writing style, plot points, character development, et cetera. I will address each of these in turn. As I do so, bear in mind that there's nothing wrong with liking a book that is not the equal of Tolstoy or Shakespeare; potboilers are fun -- there's no denying it! But I want people to comprehend why hailing Meyer as one of the greatest authors of our time is simply laughable.

PLOT SPOILERS AHEAD!

If you have not yet read "Twilight"

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Terrible Thing #10

Some chapters end at weird places, and pick up again at weirder places.

It's sort of like, "She came home and put her clothes in her dresser. [End of chapter.]" The flow of the book was often interrupted by this. It got slightly better in the later books, but in the original "Twilight", at least, it was a common occurrence. It may sound silly that such a minor detail could interrupt said flow, but trust me: it's jarring.

Terrible Thing #9

Repetition, repetition, repetition.

Edward is beautiful. This is made clear from Bella's description of him when she first lays eyes on him.

A reminder of his hunkiness is given us the next time she sees him.

And the next.

And the next.

And we continue to hear it, over and over and over again. Purple prose abounds as Meyer forces the character Bella to focus solely on Edward's appearance. I would be so bold as to estimate that there are no fewer than fifty mentions of his beauty throughout this rather small novel... and by "mentions", I mean "full paragraphs". Ridiculous.

Other points are hammered into us as well, such as those tense scenes between Bella and her father. We get it, Meyer. She's a bratty teenager who doesn't like her dad and would prefer not to live there. Do we need to witness the same exact scene over the same exact dinner table twenty times?

Really, it might behoove Meyer to give her readers a little more credit than that.

Terrible Thing #8

Plotholes.

Example: toward the end, Bella's heart stops when Edward kisses her in the hospital. She's on a monitor, and when the nurse comes in five or ten minutes later to check on her, she looks at the readout and says, "Are you feeling anxious, honey? Your heart rate got a little high there." Okay, I'll let the heart stopping thing go in respect for the needed suspension of belief that it takes to even get through this book; that being said, she's on a heart monitor because they're monitoring her heart. Her going into tachycardia and then momentary arrest would have set off the alarm and sent hordes of nurses instantly running in there. Second, since when is "arrest" equivalent to "heart rate got a little high"? You don't need medical training to know that that's literally incredible bullshit.

Terrible Thing #7

Character development is so minimal as to be practically nonexistent.

My favorite author is Orson Scott Card; compared to his character development, every author is a second-rate wannabe in that department. But Meyer's attempts -- or, rather, lack thereof -- are severely disappointing. So much could have been done with these characters, but they're the same filler characters that can be used in any book to fill any purpose. Very disappointing. (Again, though, maybe I've just been spoiled by OSC.)

Terrible Thing #6

Bella, the main character, is entirely unbelievable as a person.

She claims to be ordinary and second-rate, and that not a single boy in her big-town school was interested in her; but the minute she moves to Podunk Nowhere, suddenly all the boys want her, as if they're a sub-breed of human or something and she's their goddess -- like Yasmine Bleeth to every lonely man ever. I know that the main character is supposed to be the best of the best (else why write about her?), and I know that it supposedly gives her a kind of appeal, to be the innocently naïve beauty who is bewildered as to why so many guys like her. But, seriously -- every young male character she comes across? Really? And by the fourth guy, she's still surprised? All that tosses any sense of realism straight out the damn window.

Bella has been referred to by critics as a "Mary Sue" -- an empty shell, more or less, onto which the reader imprints his or her own personality. But to a reader who expects characters to have their own personalities (gasp! I ask too much!), Bella is a severe disappointment as the protagonist.

Terrible Thing #5

Again re: Bella: she glares way too much.

What the hell. Every time she doesn't get the response she likes, or doesn't get a response fast enough, she "glares" at the person. Apparently, Meyer seems to think that this is the only reasonable facial expression to don when you're not getting exactly the answer you want exactly when you want it. Either the main character is a bipolar raging bitch, or Meyer is just a pretty crappy author. Since the former would signify an inconsistency unparalleled in any bestseller I've yet read, I'm banking on the latter theory.

Terrible Thing #4

Again re: Bella: she represents all that those who fight for feminism are battling to demolish.

Bella is timid, meek, and not terribly bright. She latches onto a guy she barely knows because of how pretty he is, and then she proceeds to crumble in book 2 ("New Moon") when he leaves her, giving no thought to the possibility of lifting herself up and moving on with her life. She lets him do everything for her: drive her, cook for her, save her life, tuck her into bed, sing her to sleep, even carry her places on his back (and while there is a plot connection to this that speaks to a need for him to do these things because of his vastly greater strength and skill in all areas, the image is a demeaning one). She has no actual interests or hobbies outside of "loving" him. She looks at him like she's a whipped puppy and he's the human who's come to feed her, if she agrees to behave.

I don't think "sickening" is a strong enough descriptor of just how abhorrent her anti-feminist behavior is.

Terrible Thing #3

Edward is completely devoid of anything actually resembling real, human characteristics.

Edward was meant to be perfect... and so he is. In every way. Not only is he drop-dead, "mind-scramblingly" gorgeous (as Meyer sees fit to have Bella point out more than fifty times throughout the novel), but he's a shiny diamond statue on the inside, too. He has no weaknesses, except for Bella's love (d'aww). He has no moral scruples. He's always insanely polite and always says the exact right thing at the exact right time. His IQ must be through the roof. He speaks multiple languages and plays the piano, and his only concerns are to make the girl he loves happy and to protect his family.

How about a flaw or two, Meyer? Something to actually bring him to life? As it is, he's a cardboard cutout of [insert your favorite male daydream here]. Perfection does not make a character feel real. An example of his balance between good and bad -- that same balance that each of us struggles with every day of our lives -- is needed to lift him off the page and into our hearts.

But Meyer prefers her cardboard cutout, which is, in the end, really too bad.

Terrible Thing #2

A 100+-year-old man falls in love with a 17-year-old girl.

Edward is, by his own reckoning, over 100 years old, as he "died" (read: became an immortal) at the age of 17 in 1918. Yes, he's forever trapped inside the body of a seventeen-year-old boy. But his mind certainly hasn't stayed that young.

Yet with whom does he fall in love? "Plain Jane", been-a-million-just-like-her-since-1918, seventeen-year-old Bella.

It's one thing to make an allowance for the physical attraction; after all, there's nothing wrong with one 17-year-old body liking another 17-year-old body. That makes sense. But there is something darkly frightening about a man who is mentally, emotionally, and experience-wise well over a century old falling in love with a mere child.

There are other vampires of his age with whom he could carry on a relationship and to whom he could have a deeper, more meaningful connection, as they would share age, wisdom, and experience. Then again, the whole love story doesn't make sense at all anyway... which leads me to Terrible Thing #1.

Terrible Thing #1

Their "love" is not love.

The "love" that Bella and Edward share is nothing more than shallow attraction that neither of them is willing to fight, despite the fact that his instinctual drive to drink her blood might at any point override his physical desire, resulting in her death. Because there is nothing concrete to either character, there is nothing concrete on which true love might be built. They don't share any interests, because neither of them have any interests. They don't have the same views on philosophy, because neither of them is any deeper than a teaspoon. In fact, the only "real" reasons we plainly see for the mutual attraction are that he's pretty, and she smells good.

As one blogger so aptly put it, it's "[l]ike if you fell in love with the best brownies you have ever smelled but you can't eat them."

This is not a soul-crushingly beautiful tale of romance and love. It's the story of two incredibly shallow, underdeveloped characters who like each other for superficial reasons and childishly refuse to let go of that, even for the sake of the physical safety of one of the two. It's disgusting.

Duel - Do you disagree?

Let everyone else know your opinion of this critique of "Twilight"... good or bad! My opinions are not necessarily right or wrong, and I want to know your thoughts in response to my review.

What do you think of this critique of "Twilight"? Do you think I hit the nail on the head, or do you think I'm a crotchety pessimist who doesn't believe in true love?

This is dead on!

This is dead on!

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    • anonymous 20 months ago

      I have to say... you are pretty right...these are pretty unrealistic!!!

    • anonymous 2 years ago

      I totally agree with your review! This book is the worst ever. It has so many plot holes, bad descriptions, underdevelopped characters and sexist messages that nothing can be said in favor of it. Bella is the worst kind of Mary Sue-does nothing, has no interests, is suddenly loved by anyone and everyone, loves superficially etc. I don't understand the love some people show for this book. I'm a fifteen-year-old girl who wishes she hadn't spent the money to buy Twilight.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Babe I want you to know I've tried..... Really I have. But I cannot bring myself to finish that stupid twilight ..... Honestly the WORST piece of garbage I've read in my life. Seriously, it's so bad it was making me angry lol. If I ever meet the bird that wrote it I am gifting her with a thesaurus so she can use a different word than "expression" every bloody paragraph and then I feel I may strike her with it. Just terrible terrible writing.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      lol this is probably one of the most entertaining criticisms of Twilight...i think the only positive aspect of twilight for me is the fact that when i have nothing to do i can sit and read articles against twilight which are all so hilariously funny and accurate that they make my day...as for the series, to sum it up in one line i'd say- sparkly vampires (really?), tragically shallow and unbelieveable characters, and the ridiculous rantings of a senile woman with no writing skills about her fanatsy life

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      lol this is probably one of the most entertaining criticisms of Twilight...i think the only positive aspect of twilight for me is the fact that when i have nothing to do i can sit and read articles against twilight which are all so hilariously funny and accurate that they make my day...as for the series, to sum it up in one line i'd say- sparkly vampires (really?), tragically shallow and unbelieveable characters, and the ridiculous rantings of a senile woman with no writing skills about her fanatsy life

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      ok rachel you sir are a TWILIGHT FANGIRL!!!

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Hey can I just say that I am a 13 year old girl and I don't even like the twilight series because Bella doesn't seem to be able to brush her teeth without Edwards help and probably sets feminism back 100 years despite the fact that she is described as a tomboy, and also Edward pretty much controls everything she does. Also Jacob seems to be completely obsessed with Bella for the first 3 books and by the end of the last book he has forgotten all about her. And are we expected not to question the whole imprinting thing? I mean just becoming a mindless drone because they are all that's keeping you tethered to this earth, and what happens to you if a wolf imprints on you and you don't want to become "theirs" for your whole entire life? Are you just expected to go along with it? This whole series just makes you want to give all the characters a slap to the back of the head.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Bravo! Seriously, there is so much wronge with the Twilight Saga. I mean, it is practically a guide how to trap a not-too-bright 17-year-old in an abusive relationship, with her actually believing it were 'true love'. Apart from other horrible messages about gender, love, sexuality, ... the list goes on.

      But most people forget in their critique that it is nothing short of badly written. Really badly written. And you pointed those most obvious flaws out very well. Good job!

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      Speaking as a writer and someone who LOVES good literature I take offense to stories like this. The comment I'll add is that Miller said she got the idea of Twilight from a dream where a human girl was talking to a vampire and discussing how they were falling in love even though he thirsted for her blood.

      That in and of itself could potentially be quite interesting IF it was done right; example: don't make vampires so ridiculously powerful that they wouldn't be biologically possible and if they did exist they would rule the world, give the girl something of a useful skill other then cutting her arm to distract another vampire, make them closer in age, give them legitimate reasons to love each other (similar interests ect), make the girl value her own safety, put more in the story then their relationship, place it as one thread among several in a complex, interesting story. Do all this and the basic seed of Twilight could end up very interesting. I'm considering writing something about this.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I agree. I've read all four books and I didn't like any of them. And I must say that Bella is the worst character. She never stands up for herself, is indecisive (she loves Edward, but also loves Jacob), weak, whiny, shall I go on? At least half of my friends like Twilight, and every time they say "I love Twilight!!!!" , I ask them "Why?" I see nothing enjoyable about the books or movies. Also, every time I see a Twi-hard SAY to someone "You're just jealous that you don't have a boyfriend like Edward or Jacob!" or just rubbing their insane love for this poor, sad excuse for literature into everyone's faces, I have half a mind not to smack them upside the head with an aluminum baseball bat and give them a concussion. Miss Talashira, everything you said about twilight is right. Bravo!

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      you are so right...about time fucking Twi-hards got to see the shitty side of twi-shit (sorry, shit :P

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      Edward and Bella DO NOT love each other. Twi-hards stop saying that! Name one reason Bella and Edward love each other besides the fact that he's pretty and she smells good and that Bella is obsessesed with sex in Breaking Dawn. This is called lust, not love.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I've read all the twilight books and what annoys me the most is that the author had the balls to mention Romeo and Juliet and compare their love to Edward and Bella's. What Edward and Bella have isn't love. It's borderline physical abuse. In the first one, he intentionally scares her. Second, he leaves. When she almost killed herself, he blamed her for believing him so easily. I get how they technically can be compared to Romeo and Juliet because they both tried to kill each other. I also love how it is explained that she loved him and was in love, that their love is stronger than anything in the world. I'm pretty sure it's not. I'd rather have had her relationship be like how it was with Jacob. In the third, he pretty much tries to control her. She made a comment of how she'll get in trouble for hanging out with Jacob. Really? Is he your boyfriend or daddy? In the fourth, he tries to pimp her out to Jacob. The one thing that I definitely don't understand is that when she was pregnant, she had 7 vampires with her, but it took a werewolf to figure out that "hey, the baby might want some blood considering she is part vampire." Really? Is that not the stupidest thing you've ever read? I think Bella is a weak character and a b*tch. She's rude to people and when she went completely insane, she asked Jessica to go to the movies. They did, and she almost got her and Jess killed. When Jessica stopped talking to her, she considered that sulking. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't talk to someone either if I almost died because of them.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      TL;DR. Sorry about the length. But please read anyway. :3

      Alright. Hold on to all these people who adore 'Twilight'. First of all, I get it. It may be one of your favorite books, and you want to defend it. That's fine. But there are a few things worth considering.

      1) Upon closer reading of the story, Edward is seen as abusive/a stalker. In the beginning of 'Twilight', he watches her sleep by sneaking in and out of her room. Later, he takes the cables/battery out of Bella's car so she can't go and see her friends. And all of this is taken very lightly. I believe once he even hit her, and all she said was "'He only hit me because I deserved it.'" If you love someone, you let them be themselves and lead their own lives. Edward should have realized that he is not the only thing that should exist in Bella's life, which brings us to the next problem.

      2) Edward is the only thing that exists in Bella's life. Sure, I get it. We've all read those stories or even seen it happen when a person is in a relationship and suddenly, nothing exists but for that person. But usually, said person eventually learns that this is not a healthy relationship, It's almost obsessive. And ditching friends who are trying to help you is not good no matter what the situation. Next point.

      3) Bella is so deep in her ocean of self-pity, she can't believe that she can actually have friends. Even though Jessica, Angela, Mike, and several others are vying for her attention, she ignores them all. At this point, Bella is supposed to be a Mary-Sue in the eyes of Ms. Meyer. No. Bella is having all flaws and nothing good to balance it out.

      4) Bella is consistently unaware of her body's actions. She is at once extremely dumb at knowing whether she's crying, or if the rain has stopped or if they'd just gone inside. And yet she figures out major plot points without much difficulty, if the plot points can even be called such.

      5) The book is unrealistic. I'm going to go to 'New Moon' now, and say that tourists who are so frightened of this beautiful woman would never follow her into the Volturi's layer, as they are not forced to do anything.

      6) The vampires sparkle. Why when the sun is overhead and not when it's setting? Why not in fluorescent lighting? It's all very inconsistent.

      Basically, and this may or may not sound incredibly insane, 'Twilight' is subtly and unconsciously promoting abusive relationships that are deemed romantic and gives off the image that women can't do anything for themselves. Not once does Bella stand up for herself. Also, this comes across as the best writing ever to have been written. Just because it was written for young adults does not mean that it should be written poorly. There are SO MANY fantastic books for YA, are written well, and the public loves them. Yet to consider this as quality above the works of, say, Nicholas Sparks, Sarah Dessen (both romance writers), Cornelia Funke, John Green, and many others is ridiculous.

      So. As a final note: A book written FOR YA does not mean it seems as if it was written BY YA.

      Oh, and this is not love. This is lust. Even though Bella is described as incredibly plain. And why? Because Stephenie Meyers wants every girl to be able to feel as if she is the clumsy, plain, self-pitying and -degrading, abused, weak Bella.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I like the movies they're entertaining, but not the love story. The love story has about as much emotional depth as the love story in the Star Wars Films (the new ones with lovely Natalie Portman and Hayden Christiansen). There's no character development. The plot makes no sense. Vampires sparkling in the sunshine? No. Vampires being at their most powerful when they are newly "born"? That makes no sense, that would make Count Dracula a really big sissy of a vampire. The love stories b/w the characters don't always make sense aside from Bella and Edward....so that's dumb. Pride and Prejudice is a genuine love story, with multiple characters and an exploration of their flaws and how they deal with them in the love story. This is not a love story, it's just entertainment. Still, if I was the author's audience I probably would have enjoyed it as a 13 year old girl.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I personally agree with you, there were some points which I never discovered, I'm really shocked about the age bit.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      to the author of this article....I know nothing about you're appearance and I'll still say this.....I like you you seem like an intelligent person......

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      love has no age right?

      so pedophilia is alright huh? so long as the younger person thinks what they feel is? of course not....it's one thing when you have two consenting adults engaging in a relationship...it's a whole different matter when you openly seduce someone whom is underage....

      love has an age...you can bend it a bit....yes but the sheer stretch between them is completely unacceptable

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      to everyone to the right let's recap....

      say Edward looked his age and did exactly what he does in the book.......stare at a sleeping 17 year old every night before a relationship starts,isolating said 17 year old from and family or friend,fiercely "protecting her from the person she befriended (and led on) after you abandoned her in a harsh wilderness for her own protection,offering to pimp her out to the same guy so the hell spawn you created can be aborted,using your teeth instead of any sharp instrument (which could have been used with super-speed) for a caesarean.....none of this would be remotely romantic or acceptable if he was not handsome

      on another note......also trying to commit suicide using means that you prove to be non-lethal is retarded not love (romeo and juliet follow the same pattern but that work was satire on teen lust and not meant to taken as what love is) nor is it what any normal human would do.....it's like trying to kill myself by drinking a glass of water.......

      P.S. love isn't something that forms in 2 weeks like the book implies....it takes that long to maybe spark up a healthy friendship and begin to learn some of another person's mannerisms but not close to enough to go through with the melodramatic acts the "people" in twilight go through......True love takes time to develop and blossom the fact that they could think they loved each other so quickly and the way each seems to only focus on physical traits is proof that what they have is lust.....strong unrealistic lust but lust all the same....

      finally no part of my being wants to be associated with a fictional disco-ball skinned,superhuman, pretty boy who drinks animal blood and ,despite several decades of knowledge, has the emotional depth of a kindergartener.......notice I didn't use the word vampire....it's because they aren't vampires in any way ....the only traits they share is a "need" to drink blood....every other power they have can be written of as regular superpowers....also they lack the flaws that make a vampire a vampire...

      so no I'm not jealous of him

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I'm a teenage girl and i've read Twilight twice now. I hated it the first time, and I had a really hard time finishing it. I read it again after everyone was saying how good it was, thinking that I'd give it another chance. I was wrong. It still sucked. I personally don't see what people like about it. Even the people I've talked to who LIKED Twilight agree that Bella and Edward's relationship isn't healthy.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I have to agree with what you said. Firstly S. Meyers is such a terrible author I ended up skimming so much of the series because she would describe things that had nothing to do with the plot for multiple paragraphs, or she would repeatedly write things that did not need to be repeated, or usually did not even need to be said in the first place. Plus there really is no plot at all, someone could sum the series up in a couple of sentences and cover everything. I regret reading these books

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I must agree, the story has no sense, still I must say the movie was not badly directed. At first I saw twilight I felt what is this blastamy, that is under his mercy and love, it's sheer pointless. It has gained fame solely under the theory that girls of thqt age are attracted to men with secracy.

      And I am not on anyone's side , I just liked twilight because it is a movie and is more sensible than many bollywood movies.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      this is hilarious, I watched all the movies simply because of how terrible they were. I agree with most of this critique. Very funny to read the other comments. logic - vs- puppy twilight love. I think half of the people who like twilight like it because it is truly terrible. what is happening to this generations youth... sad... very. very. sad...

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      The worst thing is the lack of a plot. I remember my little sis wrote a "book" of 21 pages about the adventures of Barbie and Ken and how they first met, and then broke up, and then came together again after Barbie flirted muscle dude, and then Barbie pretended to commit suicide and then they got married and they had a baby and that baby was really special....My little sis was 8 and (although I love her) as dumb as brick. How old are you S. Meyer?

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I've never read the books but I tried to watch the first movie online because I was curious...There is not much going on in the movie, is there? I am 34 and I do remember my teenage years to be pretty bleak and me being overly sensitive to my emotions, but luckily I grew out of it and my brain developed and I (kinda) stopped acting like a complete moron. I can't imagine this kind of stuff being written by a grownup who is about my age. It's like the writer is still stuck in her early teen years, and thinks with her ovaries and hardly uses her underdeveloped mush of a brain...which is probably fine if you're a retard inbred cow, but not so much when you're writer and produces such barf for people to read.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I agree with you completely. I do wish that you'd added in one fact though - that in an age of trying to give women across the globe equal rights and opportunities, Meyer has helped to ruin it all. Bella cooks the food, does the dishes, cleans the house, scrubs the bathroom, changes the sheets, puts the washing on, takes the washing out, puts it in the dryer, buys the grocery's, takes the bins out and has to do all of her school work, which at her age, is critical. And do you know what her dad does? He watches the TV and eats the food she makes, with her freaking out when she can't get it on the table on time. I already know there is no way I would ever do that for a guy, but for the young and naive, this is ruining their minds. And at the end of the book, when she leaves home.... yet another woman steps in to look after him and cook his food. Not good.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      You are an endless fountain of truth.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      You are so right! Twilight has absolutely no plot and I regretted reading the books! There is nothing amusing about the characters. In Harry Potter, the characters have flaws to make them seem more human. I proudly say that I have burned my books so that none of my siblings will grow up reading it.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      this is soo true.twilight is a very bad idea and the movie....well am not even gonna go there

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I agree with you completely. This is spot on.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Its damn true. I read the first book and i thought every author must read this

      book to know what not to write.Alas the number of teenage brains scarred by this shit.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I read twilight when I was in 7th grade, as my friend really wanted me to. When they said that there was a gory part in the end, and I read it, it didn't occur to me as gory. Just...mediocre. The characters definitely didn't have any character development, a thing that my english class in 6th grade was definitely needed.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      It really upsets me that people think the terrible writing of Meyer is acceptable because it's a book written for young adults, and this all teenagers are interested in; shoddily written love stories. Believe it or not, some teenagers have more intellectual capacity than that of a teaspoon.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      This is perfect you are perfect

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      i just is luv

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      i was a huge fan of twilight crazy actually.....but when i reread the book things seemed a bit ridiculous to me.........neither bella nor edward is a role model to the readers.... and meyer can never be another J.K.Rowling

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      ugh i used to like twilight...and all your points are dead on. especially about the lack of character development and their "love" isn't love

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Right on! I think this pretty much sums up everything I hate about Twilight. I wish the series would DIE. Personally, I have no idea why this travesty of a novel has fans.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      You just wrote down all I have said to my husband over the past 3 days of reading the first 3 books. Bravo.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      O my Potterness! I am idiolizing each and every one of you who are spitting in the name of twilight. You all are my HEROES! Please never, ever let your odium towards this crap fade away...

      Plus, the article? It was awesome. Totally made my day :D

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Just reading the comments shows the level of education of both sides. The whole point of this article is to show that Twilight is a good book for teenage girls, but just because every teenage girl in the world reads a book doesn't mean it is a genuine piece of literature. Obviously this author is very knowledgeable in classic literature and has read all of the Twilights. Thank you for doing this world a service and proving that Twilight is for semi-literate people who have never experienced love.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      im dying! the comments!!! LMAOOOO!

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      This is entirely truthful to Twilight's faults. There is just one thing that is missing.

      If anything, Twilight was just as demeaning to men as it was to women. Just look at how Edward acts, especially around Bella.

      The Nostalgia Critic had a FIELD DAY (rant) with his fiery review of Breaking Dawn Part 1, even going as far as saying that he felt disgusted with Edward. And this was from a grown man who just watched the movie.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I hated Bella's character from the word go. She is pathetic and way to needy and I couldn't (still can't) think of any reason why Edward and Jacob find her so alluring.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Okay, I've read the four books, and I'll admit that, at first I liked them. But as the series went on I kinda wanted to kill myself before reading them again. It's entertaining (sometimes) but it does not teach anything and does not show any true human values. It's ok if your looking for a book in which you don't have to do any thinking. But again, it's poorly written, almost NO character develpment, and it's worth the bother to try to understand any of it. I completely agree with this article and I think Twitards (obssesive fans that cannot accept that their favorite book is complete shitI mean has a few flaws...) show at least once accept the criticism!

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Jaime, Collete, Tonia, Allie, Vampiricgal, srishti, Tori Cullen, haylee, Alex and everyone who thinks this article is wrong should really get mental help.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      This series is just as insulting to men. Jacob is the only person who even remotely exudes any good characteristics. Bella uses and manipulates him while she acts servile and helpless with Edward. I hated her from the moment I heard about her. She is the wrong message to women; "use mens' affections to your advantage, and men should do everything for you"

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I agree, with all of it. I loved the book, and all the others in the series, but never understood what everyone was flipping out about. The book is so simple and kinda childish. Hated jacob in it though. But i think there are even more things wrong with it rhat you didnt even say. It a good book, but not that good.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      i would agree to #2 and #5-7-8-9-10, altho the rest are absolutely false. the rest just came out of your hate... ESPECIALLY #1 dude, like seriously, their extraordinary love is pretty much why almost more than half of the world loves twilight.

      dont get me wrong tho, im a big fan too but not because edward is BEAUTIFULand PERFECT and all ( cuz seriously, his more like a someone's dreamguy that will never exist cuz even for a vampire, i think hes described to be TOO PERFECT) i like it because their concept of LOVE is unique and sweet.. but whoever wrote this critic has a very good point..

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      True dat.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      this is brilliant! You have knocked the nail on the head with this! couldn't be more true! you are a brilliant writer and this is a true deconstruction of the book and its characters!

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      LOLZ TWIHARDS!!!!! Book sucks. People who love this book as much as I hate it don't know what good literature is and isn't. It's sad that there is even an argument over if this is bad or not.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I completely agree... this book was a fun read, but it's not a story that I will ever go bad to and read again. Or any of the others for that matter.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I definitely agree with this, especially the part about their love being superficial. Bella never says why she loves Edward, she just whines about how beautiful he is and how he outshines her, and continuously compares herself to Rosalie. Maybe Edward loves her, i didn't read that far into it. But all i can see is lust out of their relationship. Also, Bella has to be the most insensitive character i've ever read about. She latches onto these boys like a parasite and makes them think that she's in love, but she's not. Just wrong. Don't get me wrong, i enjoyed the meaningless "love" babble, but its just not well written. I have read the whole series, and more than twice over.

      And yes, side note, where is Renee and Phil in all this. They completely stop mentioning her after the the first half of the second book( besides the whole naming of Nessie)? It's like *Poof* i don't exist, i used to be renee.

      More side notes: 1. People that say oh you don't like it because you don't get it, and 2. i didn't mean to bash Bella.

      1. Um, no, i got it. And i'm pretty sure the majority of the people writing about this book did too. I just think it was completely and utterly stupid. There were so many references to Romeo and Juliet, it was blinding. The story up to 3/4 through new moon was a really crappy version of romeo and juliet, besides the dying and the families keeping each other apart. Romeo= Edward Juliet= Bella Paris= Jacob. Edward meets Bella, they fall in love( two years later they get married >.>), Edward leaves for Bella's "safety". Jacob loves Bella, tries to woo her. Bella jumps off a cliff, and yes she was trying to commit suicide, she was trying to let herself drown, remember. Then Edward tries to commit suicide. Real version of Romeo and Juliet( it might not be in this exact order): Romeo get's heartbroken, falls in love with Juliet, parents engage her to Paris, romeo and juliet get married, romeo runs away, juliet fakes her death, paris dies, romeo kills himself, juliet kills herself, the end.

      2. I'm so sorry, i didn't mean to bash one character over others, its just that i dissect the main characters whose point of view the story is being expressed through. i dissect their entire being, in the case of Bella Swan, its just unfortunate that she happened to be the narrator.

      I'm sorry if this comment was hard to read because of the structure, stuff needed to be said.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      "If their love isn't true, then how come Edward plans to kill himself because he thinks Bella isn't alive."

      Really? Is this what Twilight has done? Taught teenage girls that unless a guy is willing to kill himself because you aren't with him, it's not ~TRU LUV~? I don't think you can "fall in love" with somebody in two weeks. And, for the record, I HAVE (unfortunately) read the entire series (because I know that Twilight fans' foremost criticism of Twilight haters is "OMG U HAVE 2 READ THE HOLE SERIES OR U WONT UNDERSTAND!!!"). Also -

      "I disagree, Bella and Edward are not shallow. They both have interests- Like they both like Debussy, and Claire De Lune!"

      I'm pretty sure that the fact that they both like the same band does not equate to them having things in common, or having interests outside of each other. I mean, apart from the fact that Bella occasionally ponders about how awful her life is while listening to a Linkin Park CD, or spends an entire chapter essentially sitting in her backyard reading a Jane Austen novel, there is literally no mention whatsoever of her liking anything or having any hobbies. She's not into sports. She doesn't paint, draw, write, or compose music. She doesn't go to movies or watch them with her family, friends or Edward. She doesn't like to shop (omg wow she is like sooo ~unique~!). I mean, really, other than Edward, what DOES she like? Stephanie Meyer does a very poor job of creating a personality for Bella. I literally cannot think of one personality trait that she has, because 50% of her dialogue is worshipping Edward, and the other 50% is whining about how awful her life is, because her dad pays attention to her, her friends want to spend time with her, and the weather is soooo heart-breakingly awful.

      Also, for the guy in the "This is dead on!" column who compared Twilight to Disney movies: shame on you. I appreciate Disney classics in a way that I will never appreciate any other movie, because they're more than just for entertainment purposes: they have morals and teach children valuable lessons about ethics.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Well-said. The other day, I reread the series hoping that I was being too harsh on it, but nope - it was even worse the second time around. I am literally appalled and disgusted that this is what sixteen-year-old girls think love and romance looks like. I'm pretty sure "love" â  breaking into someone's house to watch them sleep after having known them for two weeks. The only thing that I disagree with here is the poster's use of the term "purple prose". The definition of purple prose is when a writer uses description that's so overly-ornate that it breaks the flow of the piece and becomes awkward and clumsy. I'm pretty sure the biggest problem with Twilight was a LACK of description, not too much of it.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I think the comments speak for themselves. Look at the typing of the people who are under the delusion is "awesome", and look at the people who realize that Twilight is total crap.

      Great critique.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      You are spot on. The kind of love Bella and Edward have is totally based on physical attraction. Meyer does not do a very good job of showing us why these two characters are falling head over heels for each other.

      Another problem? No good character dies! They all get what they want. How realistic is that? How much richer would their love have been if someone they known would have sacrificed themselves so they could stay together.

      Another problem. The protagonist is entirely too good and the antagonists are entirely too evil. That kind of black and white is so cliche. Give us some good qualities in the antagonist and some evil qualities in the protagonist.

      And before anyone says it, if a character is able to overcome either a positive, or negative, attribute assigned to their character, without ever struggling, then that doesn't count. A character has to struggle! It is there struggle that give the novel meaning.

      One last point, one of the biggest problems I have with the Twilight series, is that no one ever fails! Everyone gets what they want without really struggling. In Eclispe, no werewolves or vampires fighting for Edward and co. die! And what happens to the rest of the bad guys? They all die! That's bullshit.

      Yes, it is fantasy, and yes there is a magic and other stuff in it, but every novel basically runs the same way. You can't gain so much without having to give up something. Realism is important, even in fantasy novel.

      For example, if I go up to someone and nail them in the jaw, most everyone will react in the same manner, anger or fear. If someone starts laughing, that is not a realistic reaction. Now, it works the same way in novels, even if they are not 'real.' Characters need to behave in a realistic manner. Not so in Twilight. It is just awful.

      The sad thing is, if Meyer had spent just a little more time on it, gotten some genuine feedback and really honed her craft, Twilight could have been much better. In fact, if you look around at most literary agents, many no longer want to see anything that has any vampires in it. Meyer, if you treat writing like a hobby, you will only get hobby results, and from what you have written, I say that is what you have been doing.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      twilight is not true love. thank you so much for writing this!

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I don't believe their "love" is true either. I think Meyer just jumped the gun with it. Boy meets girl. Without even fully getting to know each other, they "fall in love" and get together. Aside from the physical attraction, there was really nothing else there. And did Edward really have to climb up her window and watch her sleep? If he was really from the early 1900's, isn't this considered inappropriate to him? And also, in Eclipse, Bella kept pressuring him to have sex despite him telling her that he'd rather not. And the only reason she married him was so she could have sex with him and turn into a vampire. Isn't the reason you marry is because you love the person? Bella said so herself that she wasn't ready but she agreed to anyway just so she can become a vampire and be with him for all eternity? What if something doesn't work out along the way and she realizes that she doesn't really love him? Then she's stuck as a bloodsucker for the rest of her life. I read all four books and I do disagree about them not having any interest outside of each other. But the problem is, Meyer didn't explore any of these interests. At one point in Twilight, when Bella saw Edward's piano, she mentioned that she always wanted to get her mom one. But that was it. It's like that statement was placed there just for something. This may appear insignificant but I think Meyer could have done so much more with this information like, oh I don't know, make this a motivation for Bella to learn piano like her mother or even have it as a form of bond between Edward and Bella's mother. And speaking of Bella's mother, in Breaking Dawn, Charlie knew about Renesemee but how about Renee? If she heard that she has her first grandchild, wouldn't she want to fly out and see her? And wouldn't we at least hear from her?

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Definitely! The first time I read Twilight, I didn't pay any mind to all that. It was something for me to pass time. But the next few times, I began to get bored. I keep thinking, "There should be more! But why isn't Meyer showing us?" Characters like Jessica, Mike, Jasper, Leah, and even Charlie have so much room to develop in four books but Meyer ignores them and instead, focuses on Edward and Bella's relationship which is basically repeated in all four books. There was no change, no development, and there were too many unanswered questions.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      You are so right. I have read all of the books and watched all the movies, and I enjoy them for what they are worth, but I still believe Meyer is a bad writer. If you pay attention, you'll notice that it is full of gramatical errors. I know Edward is perfect, but in the first part of the book he was either glaring at her, or ignoring her. She said it was because he didn't want to kill anyone, but it shouldn't have been hard to leave, seeing as the only reason he "loved" her in the first place was because she smelled good.I mean, I thought love was supposed to be on a deep level. Edward leaving was the right thing to do. He's a vampire! If he loved her, he would leave her. They are both weak-minded, shallow characters. The only interesting characters were Alice, Jasper, and Jacob. Jacob turns into a giant wolf, then she corrupts him and makes him fall in love with Bella too. Then, later, she makes him fall in love with a toddler. Jasper and Alice were totally left behind. I mean, they were the only characters she could have done something with, and then she doesn't develop them at all. Don't forget about the sparkles! I mean, I love sparkles, but I'm pretty sure straight men don't sparkle. Meyer's vampires are not vampires. It is disgusting to compare these to classic vampire novels. Since when were vampires good? And all of you who say you have to be young to understand, I'm 13. Yup. I know a couple people who have card board cutouts in there room, but they are always of Edward. Hmmmm..... Looks like even I could fit myself into twilight! Yay!

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Note: fictional characters. All of their "love" is fake. But this is the most well thought out, eloquently written article that displays Twilight in a light other than "OMG VAMPIRES, WEREWOLVES, SQUEEEEEE! Why isn't MY life like that?!?!". I for one appreciate the change of pace and the fact that instead of just bashing the series, you developed reasons and proof for how you felt. Well done.

      Also, for the inevitable backlash from aforementioned fan-girl: I have read the Twilight series, I have seen the movies, and I enjoy them the same way I enjoy Disney movies and all young adult fiction. They are interesting and easily understood. I just personally think that Meyers is a mediocre writer (I am a publicist - I would know), and that the choice in directors for the movies was poor.

      But that's just my two cents.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      allie- edward wanted to killl himself because he has a mental disorder. i can assure you it had nothing to do with bella.hes just an overprotective abusive guy who sparkles. just so u no im a twelve year old tween girl who just happens to have more sense then the other 12 year old teen girls know.

      and they have absolutely no intrests. to be honest the book was exhausting and waaaay to long and yes i have read the hole series but unlike some people i dont have self esteem thats so low i must depend on a terrible book to fulfill my life. btw i'm taking the sats this year so obvisously im not stupid. but i do love all the normal tween stuff to so dnt call me a stick in the mud like my sis :)

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I agree completely. Putting all else that I dislike aside the number one complaint I have about this series is it is teaching our young girls that relationships are no more than one personâs obsession for another person. The problem with this of course is that no one could actually achieve this. Teenage girls have enough delusions in their heads about what it means to be feminine and they certainly donât need to add this to their list. It is both sad and disturbing that Meyer didnât give Bella any other interests than obsessing about a guy.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I totally agree. It's scary as hell that young girls are still being encouraged to aspire to 50s-style femininity.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I would also like to add that reading the "This is all wrong!" column on this post makes me want to kill someone.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I once tried to read Twilight, because a friend of mine recommended it to me (last time I take book recommendations from a cheerleader. I found that every time I turned the page, my hope in the future of humanity slipped further and further. The problem I have is that it's so popular! How could a book with such a shallow plot, so poorly written, become a best-seller? I can't fathom it. After I gave up trying to read the book, I had to re-read the Harry Potter series and read five Agatha Christie books to remember how books are SUPPOSED to be written

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      It is a small novel... going to 700+ is a bit longer (Stephen King's 'The Stand)

      I HEART vampires and vampire stories, but time and time again, this is NOT a vampire story. Everyone I have EVER asked who actually liked the books said they liked the romance. The fact that Edward is a vampire is vurtually obsolete - oh, except that he can't be out in the sun or else he'll glow... really?

      I have tried to get through this book, but I can't. Bella is too annoying - i don't really think anybody I have ever met has ever been as whiney or complainy as Bella.

      You are not a pessimist who has no belief in true love, quite the contrary. Two people who love one another have flaws, differences, they fight about all kinds of things, but ultimately the compliment each other. I am not a fan of these books because I'm not a fan of shit. Both my sister and her friend read these books and the only character they ever liked with Alice, who was never really explored (in the first book) neither of the two girls could get past the first one - couldn't do it.

    • kab 6 years ago from Upstate, NY

      I'm with you except one part: "rather small novel"? It's 498 pages!

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I agree with much of what you say. No argument there. But that does not take away from the book's authenticity. I've learned that the hard way (after 40 years).

      I'm afraid that even my own behavior would not stand up to your scrutiny. When I face myself in the mirror I have to admit I've shared many of these childish thoughts -- obsession is not pretty to read, but it doesn't make it less real. Neither is someone with low self-esteem.

      I also don't see Edward as perfect. He's a poor communicator, manipulative, abusive and at times domineering and insensitive yet highly protective, passionate, obsessed and loyal. The book is one of co-dependency and that is a very real subject. Just ask anyone who's every fallen in love with an addict. It may be unattractive and easy to criticize as stupid, but this behavior is genuine. My guess is that it exists in the millions of people who loved twilight. There is a reason we're attracted to "bad boys."

      Stephanie has captured a sad truth in our society about addictive personalities and what many of us as woman crave -- tortured souls that we can rescue. Edward represents our unfinished business. Back when my self-esteem was low (and until recently I hadn't looked up the actual definition) I shared many of the same pathetic behaviors. I imagine you might look down on me for that but I can't change the past. I can only live for today, one day at a time. I prefer to see the gift in Twilight. What I both love and loathe about it is the part of myself that I don't wish to admit. How can I hate it without hating a part of myself too?

      Perhaps if you've made a moral inventory of yourself and your own shortcomings and studied them as I imagine Stephanie did, then tolerance and compassion for this type of behavior might emerge. I has for me, but we're all different.

      In closing, I do not believe Stephanie was trying to appeal to our literate conscious (this judged as a scholarly writing would be missing the boat). She is appealing to our humiliated and sore inner child. the place that either tingles or infuriates us when it's touched. I think that's why the the duel exists. Many readers have been either thrilled or annoyed. But good or bad, if you're writing about Twilight, trust me you've been impacted! Those who are silent are really the only unaffected ones. Kudos to Stephanie for being self-aware enough to communicate at this hidden level.

      I know for me personally, anything truly meaningless to me, I do not spend so much time on. Thank you for the opportunity to share. Have a magical day!

      "be yourself...everyone else is taken."

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I could not help but make this observation: Why is it that the vast majority of Twilight supporters cannot spell, nor apply the correct grammatical terms?

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Nothing left to say :D *except you forgot to mention the necrophilia (and the bestality). And oh yeah, the cradle snatching*.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      read it people !

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Have nothing against the book. But have A LOT against what impression it gives fans after they finish reading the book. For example, they end up to think that dating older men is fine. Yes, that's fine, but 17 to 100 is kinda...unbelievable in every way. I dare you to try that. No 100 year old would look like Edward Cullen, that's just not possible. However, I do thank the fans who vote "This is all wrong!" because most of your comments are hilarious. (:

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I completely agree to all that you've said. A character mustn't be completely perfect and inhuman, like Edward, and then causing almost the entire girl population in the planet to fall for him. I think Stephenie Meyer did a very wrong thing here, especially about Bella. I mean, is Bella the girl who turns out to be a bitch at the very sight of Edward. She doesn't have a life. She needs Edward to be her backbone, and if he's not there she'd be useless. As a girl I disagree because girls shouldn't be that irresponsible to need a man insanely. That's why they have brains, to choose from right and wrong. Don't judge if this criticism is too harsh but that's just the way I feel.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      When I read the books, I didn't really enjoy them. I just wanted to know what happened next, and hoped that something exciting would happen.

      "I wasn't killing myself! I just wanted to know what it was like to jump off a cliff!"

      Really?

      come on.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      twilights good but u have a point its sending bad messages to girls

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Twilight sucks!

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I hate reading Twilight, but the thing I hate by far in this entire series is how the fans treat Meyer like she's a goddess or something. She is a horrible writer, yet she manages to millions by selling a book about her dreams as a teenager. If I could, I would slap her in the face for ruining literature forever.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      oh and people who are trashing this why did you even read this if you feel that way?

      and by the way most of you'r spelling is really bad, just to show. I only talk shit about twilight because this is a article talking shit about twilight, u don't go onto some twilight rocks site and talk shit about it. so if you feel the need to protect your little book go ahead but do it on a site that agrees.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      YOU ARE THE BEST!

      i can explain the whole book in about 2 sentences.

      Bella: I THINK I LOVE YOU YOU ARE SPARLY.

      Edwart: I LOVE YOU YOU SMELL GOOD.

      oh and by the way you forgot sparkly edward

    • Robinharmony 6 years ago

      I wouldn't say it was "dead on" but your number one thing, was right on themoney. I had been saying that since the beginning, it's not love, it's more of an obsession. That's why I liked the second book so much, it was more about her and jacobs friendship. and where friendship is so is love.

    • lovrina 6 years ago

      I agree completely, especially with the top 3 reasons. To be honest I had been thinking along the same lines while I read the series way before there was even movies.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I agree with with everything you say about Bella

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      You are absolutely correct. Vampires are supposed to drink blood, not be vegetarian and die in the sunlight, not sparkle. She ignores all of the widely accepted vampiric norms and she does not even do it well! Stephenie Meyer should stay from all writing implements and if she insists on returning to the keyboard it should be after she has gone back to school and learnt a thing or two about writing.

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      I completely agree with everything you said! I can proudly say that I don't understand why this series is getting all the hype. There is no moral to Twilight - only that girls can have whatever they want and treat people how ever they want to treat them with absolutely no consequences or losses.

      And, responding to some comments left before me, using a thesaurus every time you describe someone is a sign of immature writing. I don't mean to say that I have never used a thesaurus in my life, but to rely on one so heavily because your own vocabulary is so limited... That says something. And that "something" is not very positive.

      I can honestly say that I grew up in a generation of girls with "princess complexes" - we read in books and see in movies that no matter our current situation, a white knight will always come sweep us off our feet. We will then be privy to "happily ever after" and all the rest that comes with a fairy-tale ending. Unfortunately, life is not like this - and to mock that reality with a fantasy that is even less realistic? It's sad.

      I am impressed by your analysis and I stand by you 100%.

      P.S. To several of those commenters who disagreed - a little more spell check and a little less chatspeak will go a long ways. Try it.

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      I say, you're RIGHT ON! And one more thing, Meyer completely destroyed the main characteristics of a REAL vampire. It sends lots of BAD messages to the children of this generation.

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      A home! Finally! My girlfriend cannot understand that this is for mindless people. Therefor I am dating a mindless person. Richard Dawkins talked about brain power. Some people are born with it, some are not. I do not think this will change one persons mind that actually likes this trash. I cannot beleive our generation

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      Oh and I'm 16 so I should know how this age-range would react! Stephanie Meyer clearly forgot to remind herself that Twilight is about a 17 year old. Bella acts like a 40 year old sometimes. Also, she should make it more appealing for late teens. It's most appealing for 13 year old girls and it is clearly not suitable really for them. The age range is all wrong!

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      This is bang on! Also, Bella is an entirely unbelievable character. She is meant to be a normal girl, but the sometimes plainly disgusting things that go on in her head are seriously messed up. She is meant to be practical and ordinary but everything she enjoys and thinks is merely the thoughts and enjoyments of Stephanie Meyer. Meyer has obviously just thought 'Hmm, what would I do?' instead of thinking 'Hmm, what would a 17 year old girl with a crush do?' Also, everyone who thinks this is all wrong seems to have a problem with spelling, punctuation, grammar and detailed answers. All they are saying is that they love Twilight and the article is wrong?! They could at least explain! This article is completely correct!

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      Ariel22 is wrong. If you look at the heroines in the fairytales that she mentioned, the female characters were pretty independent and intelligent, in stark contrast to the vain and stupid women (or girls) surrounding them. Sometimes it was a situation that was thrust upon them (as in Beauty), and other times it was a headstong, selfish stubbornism (as in Ariel) that the heroine needed to be rescued from. But the stories were about building trust. I would be afraid for any of my daughters who would want to place themselves in the role of Bella. I agree, the characters are shallow and childish.

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      OK. Twilight is not the best series. it was not well written, and the characters are majorly underdeveloped. the thing is, this book was never meant to be an amazing work of literature, it was to tell a good story. To be honest every girl wants to hear the perfect love story, we've been hearing them since we were little. The little mermaid, beauty and the beast, snow white, cinderella, and these kind of fairy tale stories are what pretty much every girl wants to happen to them, and everyone accepts these stories and loves them to death, yet all the girls in these stories are vapid, stupid, and void of a personality as well. you bash twilight for its painfully underdeveloped characters but it was written to be an insert-yourself-here book, just like any princess story that we have grown up with. also, yes, Edward has no personality but since when did any of the prince charmings from all the stories of old have personalities? people dont realize that by getting all upset over twilight is like getting upset that The LIttle Mermaid was such a hit. i guess all im trying to say is that, yes, twilight was a VERY crappy piece of literature, but its purpose was to be a good story and it was.

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      Heh heh...... Crotchety...... it's funny cause it's wrong..... anywho.

      i think the book is better than the movie. Does that mean anything? Hell no it just means the movie failed.

      but yeah i agree.

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      I don't know what's worse, the fact that there are so many issues with the novels that just get in the way of their literary credibility (not to mention, can be potentially dangerous to the most naïve girlsâI'm looking at you, item #4âthat really want to live like Bella), or the fact that there are so many kids out there that defend the books, but are either too devoted to the fantasy to consider dissenting opinion, or are so failed by our educational system that they can't form a rational argument to be taken even semi-seriously.

      And FWIW, I think Lautner with long hair looks like a Klingon.

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      hell yeah. I hate it when characters are underdeveloped and especially in such a sickening manner such as the way Stephanie Meyer does this. I'm sick and tired of overhyped authors like Paolini who get lots of hype for writing absolute unpolished work.

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      AMEN!!! I was mildly entertained by the first book, but then part way through the second, I couldn't get past what a horrible role-model Bella's character is for young girls. Meekly sit back, sulk, and wait to be protected by the nearest guy, especially if he is sparkly or rather beautiful. No longer amused. I found the dialog to be pretentious to a point of being down right silly, there is no character development, and enough inconsistencies to give you whiplash. I'll stick to the true classics.

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      Twilight is horribal.

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      i love twilight!! :D

    • anonymous 7 years ago

      you drove the nail through in 1 hit!

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      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Thiz iz all wrongz cuz Edward iz da cutezt n mozt beautifulz vampire in da worldz nd U r juzt jealouz cuz yur boyfriend isn't az awsum az him and yu are not az funny nd intellugentz az Bella!!!!!!!

        *i'm just trollin'. This is completely ''dead on'' and this is how most crazy twitards express their minds*

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        STFU! twilight is awesome..NEVER read to hate or insult. you only hate it cuz a bunch of ppl loves it -.-'

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        EHH?! to who ever wrote this: YOU PROBABLY NEVER EVEN READ THE BOOK! if you did then, hm. you probably never felt how to LOVE. pff..

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        This is probably the MOST retarded critique i've ever read. My Gosh! This isn't freaking Shakespeare! Its wrote in a way to draw in the audience it was intended for, which are YOUNG ADULTS! I'm sorry but teens are very naïve and wouldn't be AT ALL interested if it was wrote as a john grisham novel, or how to kill a mockingbird! ( which are books teens wouldn't ever give a second glance at if they weren't assigned.) Lighten up! No it will never make it on a high school syllabus, but it is interesting as a YOUNG ADULT fantasy! Stephanie Meyer did a fantastic job on this book; and the series as a whole.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        Also, Bella becomes a vampire and protects her whole family. I'm not into team edward or team jacob, i just like reading the series

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        you have to read the whole series before saying their love isn't true. I have, and Edward does have flaws : he's stubborn , he gets jealous, he can be a bit narrow minded when it comes to bellas safety. If their love isn't true, then how come Edward plans to kill himself because he thinks Bella isn't alive. You have to read the whole series before crticizing it. Of course it's not realistic. It's fiction! if you read the whole series, the characters do grow. Edward tries so hard to keep Bella human, against her wishes. he doesn't want that kind of existence for her. That's love.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        I disagree, Bella and Edward are not shallow. They both have interests- Like they both like Debussy, and Claire De Lune! They do have interests, whether they're mutual or not doesn't matter. You stated that they both have no interests- well Bella likes Wuthering Heights, and Edward plays the Piano, and is musically talented, therefore what you have stated is wrong.

        What makes Edward realisitic is exactly the fact that he does human things- being polite, playing the piano, speaking multiple languages. The point of Twilight isn't exactly to be realistic- Mrs.Meyer was just recording down her dream, all she wanted was to explore what happens to the characters she saw in her dream. I think you need to seriously wind down, if you are getting all fussy because Edward isn't real enough- he is a Vampire!!!

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        i say you are somewhere right but somewhere totally wrong also. as you pointed out the ages, i say what is wrong in loving someone much older than you if he pretty just like the guy you wanted for you and looks as a seventeen year old guy. if you believ in true love you must know that true love sees no age and needs no age.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        this is ridiculous. number 1 doesn't even make sense! how the heck is their love not love?! you're just a low-life with nothing better to do than complain about things that wish happened to you.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        you people r just jelous because you rnt in twilight!!!!!!!!!

        GET A LIFE!!

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        Ooh, and btw. If she could expand her minuscule vocabulary instead of saying "sad" "frowned" "glared" "sighed" then it would be a lot better. try "depressed" "disappointed" "crestfallen" and all the other things out there.

        There's something called a THESAURUS. T_T

        the plot? it was OK. Characters? Needed a LOT of improvement. and the way it was worded? a LOT MORE improvement.

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        twilight is awesome

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        u just don't need to read the books if you don't like it. if you can't understand the book on the way that she ment it to be understood. and i toatly agree with tasja babii although they may have spelt some things wrong. and i think that if a little 14 year old could under stand the book better than you then you could take some tips and try to understand what you read. and i love the twilight series

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        its an aesum novel...dis ol is baseless

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        edward is not a stalker!

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        edward can read everyone's mind,except bella's.he's curious about her and then he fell in love!what's wrong with that?

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        oh well, everyone's entitled to their own opinion right? go stephenie meeeeyeeer! :D go twilight!

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        u didn't read it with "that" level of understanding, did u ??

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        no! Yaul are wrong!

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        your right to have your own opinoin but your not looking at it from her perspective i mean i agree that it was kind of stupid for bella to keep on spending time on telling how hot he is but think of it alike this when you see a guy what do you first notice? his personality.. Not you botice what he looks like is he cute ugly gorgous or just a freakn slob and when you and that guy and are describing him to a friend you say oh he smart nice treats me well and what else??? how he looks right yea. and when ever you see that guy you think to yourslef what dang he looks good today n then you like make that mental picture in your head about what they look like so you can remember what they looked liked that day. RIGHT! and about your number 1 umm that's stupid i mean not the age thing but he is technecally still still 17 and any one can educate themselves so that they have as much knowledge as any on e from that time and later. and its not just the temptation about him wanting to kill her and her wanting his beauty. its the fact that they can't have each other and him wanting to keep her safe. its about her wanting someone that will care for her. they have a bond that is like the way that we are attracted to sweets they can't help but being together. like if you have a boyfriend of girlfriend whatever you want or have..... but you can't stand to be away from them you can't help but have a warm tingling feeling whenever they toutch look talk hug kiss you. when your away from you you can't help it you feel something is missing and when you two are in the same place and know it you can't but gravitate towards them subconsiously. its just something you can't control. and i do think that its ok to make someone seem perfect and if you actually read and comprehended he has weeknesses like he has a remper he doesn't have hope he doesn't believe in himslef and he relys on mindreading to help him make the right the right choices so he doesn't really depend on himslef as much as people think he does. and i think it making bell attractive to everyone was the people trying to be friendly and get to know her because theres really not that many people in that town period and where she was verry poupulated. so next time you want to slam a book think about it from all angles logicaly and not logicaly and as mi lil sister says BURNED SUKA and by a 14 year old

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        OMFG HOW CAN U SAT DIS EDWARD IS SO HOT AND HES THE PERFECT MAN THIS IS NONFICTION ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE REEL

        /also end sarcasm

        I love how over half of the people who disagree with you can't even spell correctly.

        Insta-destroyed credibility right there, folks.

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        i soooo dissagree only the one what i aggree bella glears tttooooooo much

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        OMG! WHY DID YOU CRITIQUE MY FAVROITE NOVEL?!?!?! YOU ARE NOTHIGN BUT A STUPID CRITIC BECAUSE YOUR VEIWS AND OPINIONZ DIFFER FROM MINE.

        /end sarcasm

        Sorry. I couldn't resist. Oh, by the way, Twilight is the most overrated piece of literature since the Holy Bible. IMHO.

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        this is all plain stupid i love twilight it's a luv story dur ..

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        twilight is the best so your out of your mind to put this grow up and get a life N YOUR ALL WRONG ..............................

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        this is just so stupid

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        That is so stupid its a luv story!

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        Some people get the Twilight-thing, and some people don't. I understand your critique, but i totaly disagree! You are obviously one of the people who do not have the need to be in an other world and are too realistic to get the meaning of Twilight. You say that Bella and Edward are shallow, but from my point of view you are the shallow one if you can't see all the answars and questions Twilight contains.

        And about the feminist-thing. There would not be a need for feminism if all men were perfekt like Edward. Feminism exists because men in the real world are pigs.

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        shut ur face u idiot u obvs dont understand the book and i think its just rude to criticise steph meyer who has put so much of herself into writing these amazing books!!!! ps. rpatz...we love u!!!!!!!xx

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        i fink its sooo sweet dat dey hav found each other n if dey dont lov each uder den why do dey alwasyz fight to be wid each other den stephenie meyer is a awesome writer dont dis her books

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        Your the stupidest gayest person i know !You are just so freaking jealous for Stephanie Meyers awesome book that you plan to be a r-tard .I think it was a man with a love and politness and mystery that won her heart.(and his beauty) you plan to be a gay man who needs someone to leave em other than your mom.I bet you are a hundred year old one of em 2 .

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        Here's how I see it. If your going to be a skeptic..shut the hell up and keep your opinions to yourself. Why can't you let people think and believe what they want. If you want to dis Twilight ok thats your right. But it is also people's right to be fans. Just because you refuse to let your imagination roam doesn't mean you have to burst other people's bublles. I personally am a fan and love Twilight. I briefly went through your blog or whatever it is and decided that it was like believing in Santa and then someone telling you he didn't exist. One more thing..this is supposed to be a fan site so why would the creators of this site even allow such skeptism?!

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        Your SO Wrong!!! I Think Your Actually Wanting A Relationship Like Edward's And Bella's But You Have NO Life Outside Of Putting Down GREAT and I Mean Great Books And Authors....So Get A Life!!! And Stop Being A JERK

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        i hate your article shithead

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        why does edward need human characteristics? hes not human hes a vampire and they seem perfect to humans in every way!!

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        You are right in some parts, but not entirely.These books are meant to be read just for fun,I know it's far from Dostoevsky or Dickens, the writing is bad, there is no character development and the plot has obvious flaws, but since you know that, why do so many people bitterly criticize these books?What did you expect?Sometimes you need these kinds of books to relax and unwind, for example when you go to the beach or on vacation,some light reading, for fun, and amusement.If you'd read 'serious' novels all the time like the great Russian novelists or Shakespeare, like you said, you'd go nuts losing yourself through the multitude of symbols,character analysis,settings and trying to decipher every single meaning put into those books .You need variety.Sometimes you mind needs a break.Some entertainment, a read just for the fun of it.That's what books like the Twilight Saga are for.It's just entertainment.Plus, have you ever considered that some people's mental capacity of understanding and perception cannot go beyond the meanings of this book?Some people are not as perceptive and literary competent to grasp more ...'serious' novels, in lack of a better term.If most of the fans of the book like it for the obviously wrong,shallow reasons (like Edward is hot, bla bla bla) can you expect them to understand deeper books?These are the kinds of books that appeal to the majority of the population, the mediocre and the shallow.It's a pop culture phenomenon because it appeals to the majority, not because it is well written but because it what the mediocre actually want and understand.It's catchy and...people like it. I have read all the books in the series and I loved them,but I never considered them a great work of literature.It never was and never will be.But I appreciate Twilight for what it is. It's fun, it's catchy, it's an easy read if you want a break from serious cerebral activity at work or at school,it's entertainment.I agree with you on this :the characters are terrible and the plot is majorly flawed.Bella is a 'Plain Jane' who seems to be madly, unconditionally in love with Edward only because of his good looks,there seems only physical attraction she feels for him.The author insists so much on Edward's physical features it's annoying sometimes.It's shallow.But have you thought that maybe true love does not need logical reasons?Sure, there is no serious conversation between them,she seems so average and uncoordinated it baffles me, but maybe...just maybe...love does not necessarily need all of that to happen.I think that Bella, as undeveloped and poor a character she may be, stands out with her capacity to love and to sacrifice herself for the ones that truly matter for her.She is average and simple minded, yes, but how many 'plain Janes' would literally give their lives for their impossible love and even trade their mortality for an eternity of aching bloodlust, of hiding their true identity and always fighting with the desperate thirst to kill in order to survive and be with the one they love?Think about it.I think this is Bella's (only) feature that makes her stand out as a character.As for Edward, I have to contradict you.He is not perfect.Even though I do not know why he fell in love with Bella in the first place, I believe he is not perfect.Who would love a perfect character?Only shallow crazed 14 year-old fangirls maybeThere is no such thing as a perfect character.As inhumanely beautiful and moral as he may be, remember he was not always so...seemingly perfect.He killed people in his first years as a vampire.He was too weak to fight the thirst,the killer instinct.He was a murderer, a thief, a liar.He killed to survive, and lied to keep his identity secret.Every minute with Bella and, actually, with every human, is a constant struggle against the crippling pain of bloodlust, against his very nature, the one of a predator, a killer, a ...carnivore.Do not get tricked by his good looks.It's only the wrapping.It're more seducing if he is inhumanely beautiful, mannered, graceful etc., but he is still a killer. Like a carnivore flower; it may be beautiful on the outside, but only to attract its prey,to which is merciless, deadly.So Edward learned from his mistakes,he is flawed.But we learn from his struggle to keep Bella safe that not abilities , or looks, or the very essence of your soul make you who you are, but choices. Edward is a vampire, a killer by nature, by chose to fight against his nature.His love for Bella is his redeeming feature.He chose love instead of giving in to the obsessing desire to drink her blood.He might have killed her,it would have been much easier,but he didn't.A perfect vampire is evil by nature,Edward denies his evil nature just to be with Bella, so he is not that perfect.Plus (if you've read New Moon), if he would have been so perfect as all of you say, he would have succeeded in getting over Bella and would not have tried to kill himself by going to the Volturi.He is weak, no matter how physically strong, disgustingly shiny,fast and godly beautiful he is!I'm sick of everyone who says :"Oh Edward's hot!He's strong,he's perfect, he loves Bella!"Blah!!Such shallowness, even for a somewhat shallow book as this one.And notice the sexual tension between them?

        So, to conclude, yes, Twilight is shallow, yes, it's poor in meaning,its plot is awful at times,the characters are underdeveloped and the writing style is flawed.It's aimed at teenagers and young adults.It's a modern fairytale.That's what teenage girls dream of nowadays!Some of them don't know any better.I may be a big fan of the books, but I know how to distinguish a true work of literature from books like this.It;s just entertainment ,people, enjoy the book for what it is and don't be so bitter about this!Good books need a term of comparison, don't they?Twilight may be such a phenomenon nowadays, but it's just a trend,it won't be remembered as a classic, like 'Dracula' or 'Frankenstein' etc.It's just for fun!If you are so bitter about it, why don't you stop criticizing it and try to write a better book instead to prove you know better?You see,Stephenie Meyer at least tried.

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        w/e you just dont get the book and yes there is love because if it was just that they had a "physical desire" as you put it then why did she try to kill her self (new moon) and why did he want to to the same , and why did she go and stop him after what he did to her, and why was she so so so so so like sad i dont see your poin because if it was just physical then why dont they just have sex !!! like they do in the last book ??? because they LOVE yes LOVE each other and ... you know what i am going to just stop you all get the point and by the way i am not same 14 year old girl in love with whats his name ... the guy that playes edward i really hate him but they books are really good and i get were she is coming from (Meyer)

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        its an amazing book! ur wrong

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        learn to use your imagination. it's a good book.

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        im not saying its not vallad and i wont tell you your wrong its a book its completely up to interpretation but i think sometimes you have to do a little over looking to get a great read no auther is perfect and would you want a perfect novle?

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        i read through some of the "duels" after posting my opinion, and just have to point out how many ridiculous morons posted absolute proof of their mental retardation. the avg IQ for those that posted on the "This is all wrong!" side must have been at least 70(which is the IQ of a mentally retarded person in case you aren't picking up on the association.)

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        they do so love each other omg, how could you not see that?

        by the way

        WHO THE FUCK DO U THINK YOU ARE MOTHER FUCKER,

        twilight is the best book on earth this is most pointless thing on earth

        if anyone agreesz with you they probably haven't read the book

      • anonymous 7 years ago

        I agree she's not the best writer in the world -- she likes her adjectives and adverbs far too much -- but I think you're being a little unfair. Particularly on her characters. To tackle your points:

        10 - Didn't notice that myself

        9 - The problem here is the first person. She thinks that every time she sees him.

        8 - Not sure about the plot hole. I don't think her heart actually stopped - that's just what it felt like to her. It probably just quickened a lot.

        7 - Both Bella and Edward change quite a lot over the 4 books. It isn't unreasonable that the other centuries-old vampires don't much.

        6 - Meyer claims to have had the same experience herself. She was at one school and was surrounded by attractive people who gave her no notice, then moved to a school with less attractive people who all came onto her.

        5 - True

        4 - She gets stronger as the books go on. She is particularly strong and brave when defending others.

        3 - His floor is his all or nothing. He can only do black or white - never grey. Like leaving her in New Moon

        2 - Piffle. Why not?

        1 - You don't need to share interests or philosophies to be in love. I think it works at a deeper level than that.

      • anonymous 8 years ago

        The only thing I agree with in this article is the fact, that Edward is too perfect - I have always liked Jacob better:-)

      • anonymous 8 years ago

        I dont agree. Because if you were to find out the age group that was the most into reading twilight, it would most likely teens and young adults. They dont read to much inot the story they just go by what it says. They just try to read somethin different from their normal life becasue they get tired of everythin that goes on in their lifes. if you no what i mean. Twilight gives them a way to believe that there is somethin more to life than growin up, that maybe they will find the one person they really love. Teens dont care about wether he loves her cuz she smells or not.

      • anonymous 8 years ago

        I know this sounds horrible,but I have a prob with the twilgiht series. I'm totally sorry if I just offended anyone out there. I stayed up for days, mabey weeks even, without sleeping just so I could read the books. I luved them so much. I couldn't put them down at all. Then came breaking dawn. I couldn't stand the end. It tore me apart. That just can't be the end. Stephy has to write a whole new book about Renesmee growing up and being with Jacob, and the challenges they face. It can't just stop with "And so we continued blissfully in our small but perfect piece of forever." It just HAS TO CONTINUE! I have been crying and crying over this for months now. I don't understand. Am I missing some thing? Is that why I don't think it should end like that? Other than that, I didn't even notice anything wrong with the books.

      • anonymous 8 years ago

        This is BULL CRAP! EDward loves Bella.

      • anonymous 8 years ago

        I think you are a lier they are in love for real when Bella is turned into a Vampire he still loves her just the same.

      • anonymous 8 years ago

        On a lot of points, I don't necessarily disagree. I can spot bad writing. I agree with a lot of the inconsistencies. I was one of those teenage girls with a sick obsession with Twilight. Now I see them as books I like. So... I agree, but I still can't help but like the books.

        About J.K. Rowling, on the other hand. I will always stand by Jo and the Harry Potter series; she is an amazing writer and extremely creative in her plots.

        About "my choice," well I'm in between, so I'll just go with wrong.

      • anonymous 8 years ago

        shut up! everyone is a critic! ( by that i mean u)

      • anonymous 8 years ago

        BULL CRAP

      • anonymous 8 years ago

        Some good points but I still love the book.

        The book still have its selling points

      • anonymous 8 years ago

        This chick is a dickhead she is not very bright and is very cricitical and is an ugly werewolf. She is a fucking whore, bitch. we love your stupidity ayy !! (:

      • anonymous 8 years ago

        Some of this is right and some i disagree with. I mostly read it for the story and conflict so i like it. But you make good points.

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          Erudite Candor 2 years ago

          Twilight is really awesome but I agree with you. Your reviews are right, but the reason it's terrible is because the author never intended to publish it and she only writes it for fun, so the book isn't much entertaining. So I only read it just to expand my vocabulary. Still I became a fan of Twilight partially because of the plot though...

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          outsource123 6 years ago

          I read this lense twice!

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          tandemonimom lm 7 years ago

          I admit I love the books, but I totally agree with you that this is not literature by any stretch of the imagination. It's a good escapist fantasy yarn. (I do think it's worth mentioning, in light of the writing deficiencies, that this was Meyer's first novel.)

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          BW Duerr 7 years ago from Henrietta, New York

          Great read and some great points. I'm a fan, too. But you're are right, it's not a great work of literature. Just an escape from everyday life. 5 stars

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          NAIZA LM 8 years ago

          Wow, what can I say. I've been a fan of the book and movie too. But there are some areas I have to agree with you. There is some inconsistencies with the writing and all of the stuff. Terrific lens! :)