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Abortion or Abject Poverty

Updated on July 8, 2017
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Abortion? – Who has the right to choose?

Marcy Goodfleisch asked this question “Will Trump, take the USA backward or forward with women’s rights?”

Some editorials accuse Trump of being sexist but some of his staff members say he supports women’s rights. What do you think?

Here is my answer in poetry and in my own personal opinion/belief.



My personal opinion on abortion in poetic scenarios.

When I heard Donald Trump say that a woman who has an abortion should be punished…. How could Mr. Trump ever have any sympathy/empathy for any woman/girl who felt the need to have an abortion?

If Mr. Trump wanted a girl/woman to have an abortion to prevent anyone from knowing about it, he would just pay for and forget about it.


When does life begin (i.e. when do we get our soul?)

Kathleen Cochran -- reminded me that life begins when God breathes life into the person.

So many people say that life begins at the moment of conception.

I believe a person gets their soul when God breathes life into each body and I believe that is the first breath a baby takes outside the womb that is God’s breath of life…..


One of the answers to Marcy’s question:

Killing babies is what is actually happening in the 3rd trimester. And maybe even earlier, if the SCOTUS ever defined when life begins.

It is not a religious issue or it is a moral issue?


Fourteenth Amendment to our Constitution.

January 22, 1973 – The U.S. Supreme Court, in a 7-2 decision, affirms the legality of a woman’s right to have an abortion under the Fourteenth Amendment to our Constitution.

The ruling allows for legal abortions during the entire pregnancy, but set up conditions to allow states to regulate abortion during the second and third trimesters.


To Marcy’s question:

If you can create a baby all by yourself, then you can kill it. But, since you can’t, why do you think you wield such power?

My answer to Marcy's question:

If you can get pregnant by yourself, carry a baby to term and live through the pain of delivery. Then you will have the right to oppress and force women into not having an abortion, no matter what circumstance or physical condition the pregnant woman is in, but since you can’t, what makes you think you have the God given right to demand that a woman carry a baby to term and deliver it? Without regard to the circumstance of the woman and her health and well being.

I believe that most women would not want an abortion. I know I would not under any circumstances, but I neither condone nor condemn any other woman for her choice about her body.

I believe most women who are married do not seek or want an abortion unless it endangers her life.


Scenario 1

The Poem

Why would anyone want an Abortion?

© By Shyron Shenko

The Careless lover plants his seed

In his lover’s fertile bed

Does she know he is already wed?

He thinks to himself

She must be on the pill

When it was he

That should have protected her instead

When she reveals she’s in the family way

He demands she must abort

Because with his wife he plans to stay

How dare you get that way!

He begins to shout

“You must get rid of it!”

“Before my wife finds out”

The sanctimonious hypocrite

In benevolence to his wife

Marches with the mob

Against abortion rights

Carrying his sign for Pro-Life….

Scenario 2

1st Poem

Abortion? Or Abject Poverty? (Part 1)

© by Shyron Shenko

Silently he crept into the house

Past her parents room

To plant his seed

In the teen’s bed

She dare not scream

Or make a sound

Because of the threat he said

He would harm her parents if she did

She kept her silence until she knew

Having a rapist’s child would never do

She told he father thinking he would understand

And help her get an abortion, instead

You let some guy into your bed? Is what he said

What is going on her mother asked

She has gotten herself pregnant

And they tossed her out like garbage

Into the street in abject poverty…..


Scenario 2

2nd Poem

Abortion? Or Abject Poverty? The child's story

© by Shyron Shenko

You say it’s your right and your ability

To force my momma child

To bear the pain and your disdain

To deliver me into abject poverty


My momma child too weak to stand

But you would not give her a helping hand

Just deliver that child was your demand

To show that you are in command


No food and no bed in which to lay down our heads

You pretend it was to give me life

You force me into this world of strife

You said my momma child must pay

For wanting to abort me that day


Was it to overturn Roe V. Wade you’re marching in the street?

Likened to your hardened hearts

Stone-cold faces in the blazing heat

Was momma a preventing child you must defeat


What did you care about her agony?

When my momma child gave her life giving birth to me

Where are the helping hands that held the pro-life signs?

That had me delivered into abject poverty


© 2017 Shyron E Shenko

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      Shyron E Shenko 8 weeks ago from Texas

      Genna, thank you for the comment and compliment. I do appreciate you. I too am pro-choice in the early stages. I will stand with you and do some arguing of my own in front of the Supreme Court. I too agree with Jo about the "anti-abortion protesters.

      Blessings my friend

      Shyron

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      Genna East 8 weeks ago from Massachusetts, USA

      This is a remarkable article, Sharon, and the poems really cut to the chase. Well done. I am pro-choice but only in the early stages, and am a staunch supporter of the morning after pill. There are sound, logical and even moral reasons for this that I won't go into in this forum (But I'd love to argue this one on front of the Supreme Court if Roe V. Wade is ever challenged.) I have to agree with Jo Miller regarding how "anti-abortion protesters who would like to make these very personal, heartbreaking decision for others, smugly pronouncing their righteousness."

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you for the comment, and compliment. Your comment adds so much to what I am trying to say with my article. Most men need an attitude adjustment when it comes to all women pregnant or not. If only God had made it so that the man would have the first child then there would be probably only 2 children per couple.

      I hope that all is well with you, Blessings and hugs dear friend.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Jo, thank you so very much for the comment. I am so sorry for the loss of your first daughter and I am glad you have two daughters. For myself I would not have an abortion and refused when I was told that my son could be born with numerous birth defects, he was born deaf, for which I thank God, he is an amazing man and I had/have a second son who is also amazing.

      I agree with you that the only persons who should be able to make the decision to abort or not should be 1st the pregnant woman, 2nd if it is a child the parents of the child, 3rd the husband. Anyone else who feels they have the right to speak for someone else should be ignored.

      Blessings to you my dear friend.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Chitrangada, thank you for the compliment and comment, I truly appreciate you, and you are welcome.

      Blessings my friend.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Dear beautiful Maria, thank you for the compliment and comment.

      Love you also and hope all is well with you.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Larry, thank you for the remark!

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      Jo Miller 2 months ago from Tennessee

      In 1973 when Roe vs. Wade was being hotly debated I was pregnant with my first child. We found out late in my pregnancy that there were complications and the baby might not live. She came early, a beautiful, perfectly formed baby girl, but she had breathing problems and was whisked from me shortly after birth. She died the next day. Afterward I had two beautiful daughters, but my heart still weeps for my first born.

      At the time my daughter was whisked from me I was told that it might be better if she did not live because she would probably have birth defects because of the breathing problems. I knew only that I wanted her to live. I did not have the option of abortion at that time, and do not know what decision we would have made earlier in the pregnancy. But I do know that decision should not have been made by anyone except my husband and me.

      I still feel angry with anti-abortion protesters who would like to make these very personal, heartbreaking decision for others, smugly pronouncing their righteousness.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Pam, thank you!

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Peggy, thank you for the comment.

      I think this is a hot button topic too,

      but I needed to have my say,

      No matter what it is the girl/woman who will have to pay

      For boys/men who want(ed) their say/way.

      Thank you so much for the comment.

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      Maria Jordan 2 months ago from Jeffersonville PA

      Dear Shyron,

      Your muse is courageous and decent.

      I greatly respect how you tackle the tough subjects generating such thought - provoking comments.

      Love you and hope all is well in your world, Maria

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      Pam Morris 2 months ago from Atlanta Georgia

      Nice article!

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      C E Clark 2 months ago from North Texas

      Think you and I are in agreement for the brunt of the issues discussed here. I remember the bad old days when abortion was not legal. I was 21 when it became legal.

      When I was in high school a girl a year ahead of me was seeing a married man. She was 15, he was 32. I know a lot of people will blame her entirely for what happened because everything inconvenient or bad or wrong in many people's minds is always a woman's fault. I suppose we really should take the blame because who is it who has brought men into this world since God created Adam? Women!! So we are to blame for bringing them into this world and therefore to blame for all the bad things they do -- you can see the logic here, yes?

      Well, back to my school mate from so many years ago. She couldn't face her mother (a single mom) and tell her she was pregnant. And like many young girls, she knew facing the community, her friends, teachers, school mates, and all of their self-righteous disapproval in the town of 640 people, would be very difficult too. And of course her baby would be born and whispered about and pointed at and talked about behind his/her back all of its growing years. Her baby would carry the burden of her (my schoolmate's) terrible, horrible, unforgivable sin of getting pregnant out of wedlock -- her sin, not her married man-friend's sin. He was married to someone else, making her sin all the worse. Being a man, he bore no sin, did he?

      Of course God would forgive her if she asked, but not the people who know God is just an old, OLD fuddyduddy, and should realize her sin was unforgivable -- unlike their own, which everyone of them committed for good worthy and forgivable reasons.

      Well, my school mate took a knitting needle one day and decided to resolve the issue herself so that she need not face her mother, or the self righteous people of the community. She penetrated her uterus and lost her baby and a good deal of blood in the bargain. In fact she lost so much blood she nearly died -- and the self righteous were sorry -- not because she almost died, but because she didn't die, as would have been right given her compounded sins -- first sex with a married man, then pregnancy out of wedlock, and now the murder of her inconvenient child.

      Of course the 32-year old adult married male shared nothing in the sin. Boys will be boys, and though many people believe men are the stronger sex, they quickly forgive man's weakness in the face of free sex with no strings attached. What man could possibly tell himself no to that? We all learn all of our lives that strong men can't control themselves, so it is weak women who must be held responsible.

      And so it is up to weak inferior women to do the right thing whether they are an hour old (yes babies are sometimes raped and you may be sure they ask for it!!) or 100 plus, or anywhere in between. So when my schoolmate from years ago barely survived, but she did survive (barren at least for her trouble!) you may be sure that many a good Christian was disappointed because they believed she deserved all she got and more. Ask them and they will tell you death would have been too good for her at the age of 15, given her unforgivable sins.

      I do hope your readers understand facetiousness and sarcasm. Without an understanding of those things they will be left scratching their heads while they sympathize with the poor self righteous members of the community who did in fact encourage my schoolmate to take the action she did through their mean spiritedness and heartless attitudes. I really believe it is that self righteous attitude that so many people engage in that in the end persuades many an abortion to take place. No one wants to spend the rest of their lives being humiliated by the people in their community who are all pure as the fresh fallen snow.

      I don't have the answer, but I think we could prevent many abortions if we could find a way to make it easier for women, especially young women, to carry their babies through to term and give them up for adoption if need be, without all the recriminations, both spoken, gestured, and not spoken or gestured. The tricky part is to offer love and support to these women, while at the same time not encouraging infidelity, promiscuity, or inappropriate sexual activity of any kind. Not an easy solution to find, and as I said, I do not know the answer, but perhaps together we could find the answer?

      For the sake of the unborn babies who may otherwise be aborted, so that they can come into this world wanted and looked forward to as all babies should be able to do? Could we perhaps swallow the caustic attitudes and the caustic words and gestures for their sake? Until we do, we must bare some responsibility for those poor babies who failed to be conceived according to what we consider righteous conditions and who will never come into our world.

      Will we ever totally end abortion? Abortion is at it's lowest ever incidence at this time, or since records of it's frequency have been kept, but the only thing I know of that is 100% is death. Everyone dies sooner or later. Ending all abortion is highly unlikely. But if adjusting our attitudes towards these women who abort their babies because they can't face the people in their environment will save the life of an unborn baby here and there, will their lives not be worth it even if we can't save them all?

      You have certainly opened up the opportunity for people to think about this issue with this piece. I hope they will do so.

      Blessings and hugs for you dear friend, and for John and Chipper too. Take care . . .

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Galaxy, thank you for the comment. I neither condone or condemn abortion, I do believe that whatever a pregnant woman does in regards to her pregnancy is between her and her God, not at the whim of the President, or the Congress, or any other human being.

      I chose NOT to abort my baby when I was told I had German Measles and it Would affect my child. My son is a wonderful man, he was born deaf. I have read Psalm it is my favorite book of the Bible.

      Babies do not breathe in their mother's womb and they take their first breath when they are born that is when they get their soul. You have the right to believe differently.

      Have a blessed day.

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      Chitrangada Sharan 2 months ago from New Delhi, India

      Beautiful poems and a wonderful hub!

      This will make the readers think , in spite of their own personal opinions. I appreciate you for writing on a debatable subject.

      It was interesting to read your perspective as well as the views of others. As many have said, each case is different and personal.

      Thanks for sharing this excellent hub!

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      GalaxyRat 2 months ago from The Crazy Rat Lady's House

      Ahem, life begins at conception. Note the Bible verse Psalm 139: 13: "For You formed my inward parts, You covered me in my mother's womb, I praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made."

      That's my view. Abortion is wrong because it murders. I feel that if a woman needs it, then she can have it. But not all women need it. Good day.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Martie, thank you my beautiful friend for your comment. I believe that every woman and her situation is different. Also I do not believe that anyone has a right to dictate to any woman what she must do for their beliefs, instead of for her own needs and desires that really only affect her life and the life of her unborn child.

      Blessings always

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Paula, my beautiful friend

      Sometimes it shows that a woman has sinned

      At least that is what some say any way

      With a man it never shows and he can always pretend

      He does not know how she got that way

      So she is the one who must pay

      With all rights taken away

      ----x----x-----x-----x-----x-----x

      You are a wonderful poet.

      Blessings my friend

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Shelley, my treasured friend

      Thanks for the comment

      And the kind words you send

      I am glad you are for a woman’s right to choose

      To deny a woman her rights is a form of abuse

      That many men seek to use

      -----x-----x-----x-----x-----x

      Blessings my friend

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      Larry Rankin 2 months ago from Oklahoma

      Interesting perspective.

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      Peggy Woods 2 months ago from Houston, Texas

      I totally agree with what Martie Coetser wrote. This is surely a hot button topic.

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      Martie Coetser 2 months ago from South Africa

      I believe each and every case is unique and the women involved should never be lumped together. I believe a government that prohibits abortion, should at least provide what is needed for the baby to live a meaningful life.

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      Paula 2 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      Shy....

      This is an issue as personal as can be.

      It should be private too, for you or me

      We can believe what we wish and live it too

      But whatever we choose, may be wrong for a few.

      Mistakes sometimes happen, then what can we say?

      Each woman has rights, give her space so she may

      Think of how she will manage to live day to day.

      Whatever she does, know it's her heart & life....

      Allow her some peace while she handles this strife....Paula/2017

      Alone, I believe what I believe. I also know I'm not every woman. As a woman, despite my belief, I support my sisters.

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      FlourishAnyway 2 months ago from USA

      They unpublished this when we have all the political stufff floating around on HP that is full of intolerance? Crazy. You are expressing your loving opinion through poetry and I appreciate it. I'm a strong supporter of choice. I have no right to decide when another woman will become a mother and no one else should presume they do either.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Mike, thank you for the compliment and comment. I appreciate you.

      Blessings as always

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      Demas W Jasper 2 months ago from Today's America and The World Beyond

      Interesting takes on the subject.

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      mckbirdbks 2 months ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

      Hello Shy - What a bold writer you are. This issue has sustained Congress for fifty years. Without this issue we could retire Congress completely. But, I am just a man, so what do I know.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Bill, thank you for being the first to comment and compliment.

      The lack of comments on here, I think is due to the fact that HP unpublished it. I guess it is to harsh for their sensitive ears, albeit my opinion, which I have a right to.

      I really appreciate your comment.

      Blessings always

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      That about covers it all, my friend. I'm a bit surprised there aren't any comments on this one. It's a hot topic for sure. I rarely give my opinions on topics like this one...it's a no-win situation and breeds the vultures out there who want to shout down anyone who doesn't agree with them. But that's beside the point...lovely job, here. Well done!