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Updated on July 2, 2020
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Abortion? – Who has the right to choose?

Marcy Goodfleisch asked this question “Will Trump, take the USA backward or forward with women’s rights?”

Some editorials accuse Trump of being sexist but some of his staff members say he supports women’s rights. What do you think?

Here is my answer in poetry and in my own personal opinion/belief.

My personal opinion on abortion in poetic scenarios.

When I heard Donald Trump say that a woman who has an abortion should be punished…. How could Mr. Trump ever have any sympathy/empathy for any woman/girl who felt the need to have an abortion?

If Mr. Trump wanted a girl/woman to have an abortion to prevent anyone from knowing about it, he would just pay for and forget about it.

When does life begin (i.e. when do we get our soul?)

Kathleen Cochran -- reminded me that life begins when God breathes life into the person.

So many people say that life begins at the moment of conception.

I believe a person gets their soul when God breathes life into each body and I believe that is the first breath a baby takes outside the womb that is God’s breath of life…..

One of the answers to Marcy’s question:

Killing babies is what is actually happening in the 3rd trimester. And maybe even earlier, if the SCOTUS ever defined when life begins.

Is it a religious issue or it is a moral issue? If it is a religious issue, what religion?

Fourteenth Amendment to our Constitution.

January 22, 1973 – The U.S. Supreme Court, in a 7-2 decision, affirms the legality of a woman’s right to have an abortion under the Fourteenth Amendment to our Constitution.

The ruling allows for legal abortions during the entire pregnancy, but set up conditions to allow states to regulate abortion during the second and third trimesters.

To Marcy’s question:

If you can create a baby all by yourself, then you can kill it. But, since you can’t, why do you think you wield such power?

My answer to Marcy's question:

If you can get pregnant by yourself, carry a baby to term and live through the pain of delivery. Then you will have the right to oppress and force women into not having an abortion, no matter what circumstance or physical condition the pregnant woman is in, but since you can’t, what makes you think you have the God given right to demand that a woman carry a baby to term and deliver it? Without regard to the circumstance of the woman and her health and well being.

I believe that most women would not want an abortion. I know I would not under any circumstances, but I neither condone nor condemn any other woman for her choice about her body.

I believe most women who are married do not seek or want an abortion unless it endangers her life.

Scenario 1

The Poem

Why would anyone want an Abortion?

© By Shyron Shenko

The Careless lover plants his seed

In his lover’s fertile bed

Does she know he is already wed?

He thinks to himself

She must be on the pill

When it was he

That should have protected her instead

When she reveals she’s in the family way

He demands she must abort

Because with his wife he plans to stay

How dare you get that way!

He begins to shout

“You must get rid of it!”

“Before my wife finds out”

The sanctimonious hypocrite

In benevolence to his wife

Marches with the mob

Against abortion rights

Carrying his sign for Pro-Life….

Scenario 2

1st Poem

Abortion? Or Abject Poverty? (Part 1)

© by Shyron Shenko

Silently he crept into the house

Past her parents room

To plant his seed

In the teen’s bed

She dare not scream

Or make a sound

Because of the threat he said

He would harm her parents if she did

She kept her silence until she knew

Having a rapist’s child would never do

She told he father thinking he would understand

And help her get an abortion, instead

You let some guy into your bed? Is what he said

What is going on her mother asked

She has gotten herself pregnant

And they tossed her out like garbage

Into the street in abject poverty…..

Scenario 2

2nd Poem

Abortion? Or Abject Poverty? The child's story

© by Shyron Shenko

You say it’s your right and your ability

To force my momma child

To bear the pain and your disdain

To deliver me into abject poverty

My momma child too weak to stand

But you would not give her a helping hand

Just deliver that child was your demand

To show that you are in command

No food and no bed in which to lay down our heads

You pretend it was to give me life

You force me into this world of strife

You said my momma child must pay

For wanting to abort me that day

Was it to overturn Roe V. Wade you’re marching in the street?

Likened to your hardened hearts

Stone-cold faces in the blazing heat

Was momma a preventing child you must defeat

What did you care about her agony?

When my momma child gave her life giving birth to me

Where are the helping hands that held the pro-life signs?

That had me delivered into abject poverty

© 2017 Shyron E Shenko


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    • Shyron E Shenko profile imageAUTHOR

      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 weeks ago from Texas

      Au fait, Walter said he likes your reasoning, like turning your face away from a crime would mean there is no crime.

      Thank you for the comments.

      Blessings my Dear friend.

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      C E Clark 

      5 weeks ago from North Texas

      Was just thinking a while ago about how so many self-described Christians have been willing to sacrifice Grampa and Grandma's lives, or anyone's life for that matter, in the name of protecting the economy. So if they think it's a necessary thing for their elders and everyone else's to die for the sake of the economy, why is it so hard to imagine that sadly, it may be necessary for a zygote, embryo, fetus, to be sacrificed for the sake of a person or family's economy?

      Besides, if women would just stop taking pregnancy tests they wouldn't be pregnant. If one can eliminate the Coronavirus by merely not testing for it, shouldn't that same strategy work with other things too?

      Posting this article to AH & FB.

      Blessings, dear friend. Be safe . . .

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      5 weeks ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you for the comments. I agree with what you have said here. If only the man could have the first child this world would be less populated or far more abortions because most men cannot tolerate the pain that a woman can.

      Hope all is well with you, Blessings my dear friend.

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      Devika Primić 

      6 months ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      A topic of debate indeed and it is a difficult choice to live by. I do not believe in abortion it is not worth it.

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      C E Clark 

      12 months ago from North Texas

      Aren't Trump and his supporters wonderful!? They're taking us back to the dark ages when pregnancy and childbirth were a punishment and when women died in abortion. But any good Trump supporter will tell you a woman who seeks or has an abortion deserves to die, even if her condition is the result of rape. Trump supporters believe any woman's rape is her own fault. Yes, even raped newborns flirted with their attackers according to some people, and by doing so "ask for it." Of course newborns can't get pregnant, but they're guilty of instigating rape just the same.

      No reason to worry, however. By denying and ignoring climate change, as all Republicans do, our species should pretty much have died out within the next hundred years or so, if not before. Maybe God can create a new species less susceptible to sin and more intelligent -- and therefore more compassionate towards other people less perfect than themselves.

      Trump supporters desperately demand an authoritarian state, yet there are already so many of them in this world. Instead of changing our country from a democracy into a dictatorship, why not just move to one of these countries that is already authoritarian? So much easier and quicker if that's what one really wants.

      People who object to abortion shouldn't get one. Further, they should put their money where their mouth is and help financially support women with children they can't afford to take care of.

      I personally do not like abortion and am glad it is happening less often, as it has been for years now, and not because of new laws prohibiting it. Even so, I do not think it is for me to tell other people how to live, or to follow in my perfect footsteps, as so many people seem to need to do these days.

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      C E Clark 

      14 months ago from North Texas

      Recent laws passed in various states that ban abortion for any reason are just plain cruel. With more and more little girls going through puberty at ages 5 to 9, more of them will be forced to go through pregnancy and childbirth as a result of rape, and many of them will die.

      Some people have actually said to me that little girls getting raped and forced to carry a baby to term is God's Will. It is not God's will that such a terrible thing should happen to anyone and definitely not little girls. God is not the author of evil -- ever.

      It is not God's will that little girls be punished for being raped, but the will of evil men and women who dare to plaster the Christian label all over themselves whilst doing these little girls at least as much harm as their rapist did.

      Little girls who are forced by "fake" Christians to go through the hell of rape and then pregnancy and childbirth and likely, dying from it, will have it easy compared to the punishment these "fake" Christians will receive when the punishment for their evil comes due, but that is no comfort for the poor little girls who have done nothing to deserve such horrible treatment form the very people who should be protecting them from the evils of this world.

      There seems to be no limit to the evil characteristics more and more people are taking on these days.

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      C E Clark 

      21 months ago from North Texas

      Yes, men and a few women want to put women on trial for having an abortion. Why can't we put men on trial for getting women pregnant in the first place? Agreeing to sex isn't the same thing as wanting to be pregnant, etc.

      Some abortions are due to the expense of having and rearing a child and the expectant mother simply can't afford it. I know some people imagine single mothers get all manner of luxuries from the government, but that's only because they have never been poor themselves and have no idea what poor means. They're lucky to be able to spell the word.

      I think if they're so against abortion for poor women, they should fork up some money regularly to help support these women and their children and stop whining about welfare, which amounts to very little. Just enough to keep people alive and miserable.

      We rarely hear about abortions for wealthy women. That's because they can afford to go off quietly and get one, whether here in the states or overseas. We only hear about the abortions poor women get.

      As with so many things, the well off are constantly forbidding and finding fault with poor people having, or doing anything. If they could, I'm sure they would incarcerate people simply for being poor. In fact, they're already doing that all across this country!

      If Jesus were here today He'd be in jail, you can depend on it. He'd be in jail for being poor and homeless, which He was His entire adult life. His message was mercy and forgiveness, but to get it one must first give it. That will snag a lot of people, mark my words.

      I dislike abortion entirely, but I do not think it is for me to determine how other people should live their lives. We must all manage our own lives the best we can. When we fall short, as inevitably we humans do, then we need the mercy and forgiveness that we should already be giving out freely.

      Even today, more abortions than you might think, are sought because some women can't face the criticism they will receive if they choose to keep their babies and there's no boyfriend, husband, or significant other to help them raise it. In that case the people gossiping and whispering about the out of wedlock pregnancy are as much to blame as anyone else for causing the abortion. Instead of trying to help the situation, they are driving these women to abortion to save face.

      Yes, even in today's so-called enlightened world, some young girls/women find it too hard to face the disapproval they will receive at every step, and so they choose abortion instead.

      There are many reasons some women choose abortion, but the above reasons could be managed if people cared to apply kindness and mercy instead of hissing and criticism.

      I do believe abortion should remain legal for those women who decide that is their best solution. I don't want to go back to the bad old days of back-alley abortions and women becoming sterile or dying. Pregnancy and childbirth should never be a punishment.

      What many people do not know is that abortion is at an all time low. No, it isn't nonexistent completely, nor do I think it ever will be. I think if it is extremely rare, that will be a great achievement. An achievement that should be accomplished through kindness and mercy, not laws and finger pointing.

      Blessings dear friend . . .

    • Shyron E Shenko profile imageAUTHOR

      Shyron E Shenko 

      22 months ago from Texas

      I do believe that R V. W will be overturned, and women will be put on trial for divulging any kind of abuse.

      Blessings my dear friend.

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      C E Clark 

      22 months ago from North Texas

      Roe vs. Wade will likely be overturned in the next few years if conservatives have their way. I'll be surprised if Kavanaugh isn't confirmed. Republicans want abortion outlawed more than they want integrity on the Supreme Court, and Trump wants a justice that will side with him and make the president above the law. Seems like this president is already above the law with the way things have been going since he was sworn in

      Hope all is well with you. Blessings dear friend . . .

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      2 years ago from Texas

      Frank, thank you for reading and commenting. Yes you are right, I do not believe in abortion, but don't believe any man has a right to choose for any woman, and it is only my right to choose for me, and I chose to have my son.

      Blessings my friend.

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      Frank Atanacio 

      2 years ago from Shelton

      strong topic, I feel your words digging deep and I also sense a desperate move to keep the heads of the right to choose above water.. am I right?

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      2 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Jackie for the comment. I don't believe in abortion for me, but I don't condone or condemn any woman for her choice.

      I have two sons, first pregnancy I got German Measles and was told I could abort, I choose to have my son, never once has there been any regrets. Second pregnancy and on the pill when I got that way and had a second son.

      I was not talking about using abortion as a form of birth control, but this hub was meant to show there are reasons for women's choices, and each woman has a right to her choice and not be forced by someone else's belief/or lack there of.

      I really do appreciate your comment and respect your right of choice.

      Blessings my friend.

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      Jackie Lynnley 

      2 years ago from the beautiful south

      If we believe in God then we have to take His word and there are many scriptures that prove God knows us before we are born. (one is Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.")

      I think it is a shame now they have abortion at 20 weeks. Having been pregnant twice I know that is a real baby well before that and any woman who has been pregnant does.

      I think the shame of it all is that it never has to go that far with birth control and perhaps many Christians are against that too, such as Catholics, but at least it is not murder. There are many, many videos showing us a real human being torn apart so there really can't even be an argument there.

      If we cannot control ourselves from becoming pregnant then there is the morning after pill or we can give that baby to someone who will cherish it. Women all of a sudden become stupid when it comes to getting pregnant? They being careless (in most cases) have rights but the baby does not?

      There are many answers much better and safer to ourselves even than abortion and it should never have been allowed to be a form of birth control is my opinion.

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      2 years ago from Texas

      I neither condone nor condemn a woman who has an abortion, only she knows the reason.

      When does life begin, I think it is when the baby takes it's first breath out side of womb

      I believe that is when God breaths life into an infant.

      Hope all is well with you.

      Blessings and hugs my dear friend.

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      C E Clark 

      2 years ago from North Texas

      While you know I don't like abortion under any circumstances, I do not feel it's for me to decide for other people what they should do. They must decide what is best for themselves and their family and live with that decision.

      One thing that I do think about is the issue of when does life begin. Many people believe it begins at conception. While I tend to agree, at the same time the zygote is a single cell generated from the combination of the female egg and the male sperm. Over the next few days after this process has occurred the embryo continues to be a collection of cells and has no resemblance to a human being.

      Every part of our body is made up of live cells, except for our toe and finger nails and our hair. Yet our various body parts are not in themselves a human being. One could compare the zygote that has no brain and is not recognizable to any but specialists in that area as the beginning of a human, to any other single cell in the body. It is literally only a single cell, unique only in its potential to develop into a complete human being, but not yet having done that, it is just a single cell. Not a human being.

      Eventually scientists and medical professionals will be able to grow new body parts to replace those that are diseased or no longer working as intended.

      In fact, it is now possible to grow clones from a few human cells. Do we now not dare to discard any living body cells regardless of where they came from or why, because under the right circumstances a complete sentient human being could be grown from them?

      To my thinking, to abort or not to abort is essentially a religious issue and therefore to be made by the individual most effected -- the woman carrying the zygote. Even in the first stages of development, the embryo is not a complete human being.

      Many people like to think of the embryo as a human being when in fact it is not. It has the potential, if allowed to continue to develop to become a human being, but at that stage it is not a human being.

      People who condemn women who abort for financial reasons need to put their money where their mouth is. Stop whining about public assistance for single mothers and poor families, or accept abortion without condemnation.

      Excellent poem and encouragement for people to rethink their beliefs and attitudes about abortion and child birth.

      Hope all is well with you and yours. Blessings dear friend.

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      2 years ago from Texas

      Got it and answer sent.

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      2 years ago from Carson City

      Shyron...(just a quick message, GF) Pls check UR email from UR profile page. I have just sent you an email. Paula :)

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Genna, thank you for the comment and compliment. I do appreciate you. I too am pro-choice in the early stages. I will stand with you and do some arguing of my own in front of the Supreme Court. I too agree with Jo about the "anti-abortion protesters.

      Blessings my friend


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      Genna East 

      3 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

      This is a remarkable article, Sharon, and the poems really cut to the chase. Well done. I am pro-choice but only in the early stages, and am a staunch supporter of the morning after pill. There are sound, logical and even moral reasons for this that I won't go into in this forum (But I'd love to argue this one on front of the Supreme Court if Roe V. Wade is ever challenged.) I have to agree with Jo Miller regarding how "anti-abortion protesters who would like to make these very personal, heartbreaking decision for others, smugly pronouncing their righteousness."

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you for the comment, and compliment. Your comment adds so much to what I am trying to say with my article. Most men need an attitude adjustment when it comes to all women pregnant or not. If only God had made it so that the man would have the first child then there would be probably only 2 children per couple.

      I hope that all is well with you, Blessings and hugs dear friend.

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Jo, thank you so very much for the comment. I am so sorry for the loss of your first daughter and I am glad you have two daughters. For myself I would not have an abortion and refused when I was told that my son could be born with numerous birth defects, he was born deaf, for which I thank God, he is an amazing man and I had/have a second son who is also amazing.

      I agree with you that the only persons who should be able to make the decision to abort or not should be 1st the pregnant woman, 2nd if it is a child the parents of the child, 3rd the husband. Anyone else who feels they have the right to speak for someone else should be ignored.

      Blessings to you my dear friend.

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Chitrangada, thank you for the compliment and comment, I truly appreciate you, and you are welcome.

      Blessings my friend.

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Dear beautiful Maria, thank you for the compliment and comment.

      Love you also and hope all is well with you.

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Larry, thank you for the remark!

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      Jo Miller 

      3 years ago from Tennessee

      In 1973 when Roe vs. Wade was being hotly debated I was pregnant with my first child. We found out late in my pregnancy that there were complications and the baby might not live. She came early, a beautiful, perfectly formed baby girl, but she had breathing problems and was whisked from me shortly after birth. She died the next day. Afterward I had two beautiful daughters, but my heart still weeps for my first born.

      At the time my daughter was whisked from me I was told that it might be better if she did not live because she would probably have birth defects because of the breathing problems. I knew only that I wanted her to live. I did not have the option of abortion at that time, and do not know what decision we would have made earlier in the pregnancy. But I do know that decision should not have been made by anyone except my husband and me.

      I still feel angry with anti-abortion protesters who would like to make these very personal, heartbreaking decision for others, smugly pronouncing their righteousness.

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Pam, thank you!

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Peggy, thank you for the comment.

      I think this is a hot button topic too,

      but I needed to have my say,

      No matter what it is the girl/woman who will have to pay

      For boys/men who want(ed) their say/way.

      Thank you so much for the comment.

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      Maria Jordan 

      3 years ago from Jeffersonville PA

      Dear Shyron,

      Your muse is courageous and decent.

      I greatly respect how you tackle the tough subjects generating such thought - provoking comments.

      Love you and hope all is well in your world, Maria

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      Pam Morris 

      3 years ago from Atlanta Georgia

      Nice article!

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      C E Clark 

      3 years ago from North Texas

      Think you and I are in agreement for the brunt of the issues discussed here. I remember the bad old days when abortion was not legal. I was 21 when it became legal.

      When I was in high school a girl a year ahead of me was seeing a married man. She was 15, he was 32. I know a lot of people will blame her entirely for what happened because everything inconvenient or bad or wrong in many people's minds is always a woman's fault. I suppose we really should take the blame because who is it who has brought men into this world since God created Adam? Women!! So we are to blame for bringing them into this world and therefore to blame for all the bad things they do -- you can see the logic here, yes?

      Well, back to my school mate from so many years ago. She couldn't face her mother (a single mom) and tell her she was pregnant. And like many young girls, she knew facing the community, her friends, teachers, school mates, and all of their self-righteous disapproval in the town of 640 people, would be very difficult too. And of course her baby would be born and whispered about and pointed at and talked about behind his/her back all of its growing years. Her baby would carry the burden of her (my schoolmate's) terrible, horrible, unforgivable sin of getting pregnant out of wedlock -- her sin, not her married man-friend's sin. He was married to someone else, making her sin all the worse. Being a man, he bore no sin, did he?

      Of course God would forgive her if she asked, but not the people who know God is just an old, OLD fuddyduddy, and should realize her sin was unforgivable -- unlike their own, which everyone of them committed for good worthy and forgivable reasons.

      Well, my school mate took a knitting needle one day and decided to resolve the issue herself so that she need not face her mother, or the self righteous people of the community. She penetrated her uterus and lost her baby and a good deal of blood in the bargain. In fact she lost so much blood she nearly died -- and the self righteous were sorry -- not because she almost died, but because she didn't die, as would have been right given her compounded sins -- first sex with a married man, then pregnancy out of wedlock, and now the murder of her inconvenient child.

      Of course the 32-year old adult married male shared nothing in the sin. Boys will be boys, and though many people believe men are the stronger sex, they quickly forgive man's weakness in the face of free sex with no strings attached. What man could possibly tell himself no to that? We all learn all of our lives that strong men can't control themselves, so it is weak women who must be held responsible.

      And so it is up to weak inferior women to do the right thing whether they are an hour old (yes babies are sometimes raped and you may be sure they ask for it!!) or 100 plus, or anywhere in between. So when my schoolmate from years ago barely survived, but she did survive (barren at least for her trouble!) you may be sure that many a good Christian was disappointed because they believed she deserved all she got and more. Ask them and they will tell you death would have been too good for her at the age of 15, given her unforgivable sins.

      I do hope your readers understand facetiousness and sarcasm. Without an understanding of those things they will be left scratching their heads while they sympathize with the poor self righteous members of the community who did in fact encourage my schoolmate to take the action she did through their mean spiritedness and heartless attitudes. I really believe it is that self righteous attitude that so many people engage in that in the end persuades many an abortion to take place. No one wants to spend the rest of their lives being humiliated by the people in their community who are all pure as the fresh fallen snow.

      I don't have the answer, but I think we could prevent many abortions if we could find a way to make it easier for women, especially young women, to carry their babies through to term and give them up for adoption if need be, without all the recriminations, both spoken, gestured, and not spoken or gestured. The tricky part is to offer love and support to these women, while at the same time not encouraging infidelity, promiscuity, or inappropriate sexual activity of any kind. Not an easy solution to find, and as I said, I do not know the answer, but perhaps together we could find the answer?

      For the sake of the unborn babies who may otherwise be aborted, so that they can come into this world wanted and looked forward to as all babies should be able to do? Could we perhaps swallow the caustic attitudes and the caustic words and gestures for their sake? Until we do, we must bare some responsibility for those poor babies who failed to be conceived according to what we consider righteous conditions and who will never come into our world.

      Will we ever totally end abortion? Abortion is at it's lowest ever incidence at this time, or since records of it's frequency have been kept, but the only thing I know of that is 100% is death. Everyone dies sooner or later. Ending all abortion is highly unlikely. But if adjusting our attitudes towards these women who abort their babies because they can't face the people in their environment will save the life of an unborn baby here and there, will their lives not be worth it even if we can't save them all?

      You have certainly opened up the opportunity for people to think about this issue with this piece. I hope they will do so.

      Blessings and hugs for you dear friend, and for John and Chipper too. Take care . . .

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Galaxy, thank you for the comment. I neither condone or condemn abortion, I do believe that whatever a pregnant woman does in regards to her pregnancy is between her and her God, not at the whim of the President, or the Congress, or any other human being.

      I chose NOT to abort my baby when I was told I had German Measles and it Would affect my child. My son is a wonderful man, he was born deaf. I have read Psalm it is my favorite book of the Bible.

      Babies do not breathe in their mother's womb and they take their first breath when they are born that is when they get their soul. You have the right to believe differently.

      Have a blessed day.

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      Chitrangada Sharan 

      3 years ago from New Delhi, India

      Beautiful poems and a wonderful hub!

      This will make the readers think , in spite of their own personal opinions. I appreciate you for writing on a debatable subject.

      It was interesting to read your perspective as well as the views of others. As many have said, each case is different and personal.

      Thanks for sharing this excellent hub!

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      3 years ago

      Ahem, life begins at conception. Note the Bible verse Psalm 139: 13: "For You formed my inward parts, You covered me in my mother's womb, I praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made."

      That's my view. Abortion is wrong because it murders. I feel that if a woman needs it, then she can have it. But not all women need it. Good day.

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Martie, thank you my beautiful friend for your comment. I believe that every woman and her situation is different. Also I do not believe that anyone has a right to dictate to any woman what she must do for their beliefs, instead of for her own needs and desires that really only affect her life and the life of her unborn child.

      Blessings always

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Paula, my beautiful friend

      Sometimes it shows that a woman has sinned

      At least that is what some say any way

      With a man it never shows and he can always pretend

      He does not know how she got that way

      So she is the one who must pay

      With all rights taken away


      You are a wonderful poet.

      Blessings my friend

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Shelley, my treasured friend

      Thanks for the comment

      And the kind words you send

      I am glad you are for a woman’s right to choose

      To deny a woman her rights is a form of abuse

      That many men seek to use


      Blessings my friend

    • Larry Rankin profile image

      Larry Rankin 

      3 years ago from Oklahoma

      Interesting perspective.

    • Peggy W profile image

      Peggy Woods 

      3 years ago from Houston, Texas

      I totally agree with what Martie Coetser wrote. This is surely a hot button topic.

    • MartieCoetser profile image

      Martie Coetser 

      3 years ago from South Africa

      I believe each and every case is unique and the women involved should never be lumped together. I believe a government that prohibits abortion, should at least provide what is needed for the baby to live a meaningful life.

    • fpherj48 profile image


      3 years ago from Carson City


      This is an issue as personal as can be.

      It should be private too, for you or me

      We can believe what we wish and live it too

      But whatever we choose, may be wrong for a few.

      Mistakes sometimes happen, then what can we say?

      Each woman has rights, give her space so she may

      Think of how she will manage to live day to day.

      Whatever she does, know it's her heart & life....

      Allow her some peace while she handles this strife....Paula/2017

      Alone, I believe what I believe. I also know I'm not every woman. As a woman, despite my belief, I support my sisters.

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      3 years ago from USA

      They unpublished this when we have all the political stufff floating around on HP that is full of intolerance? Crazy. You are expressing your loving opinion through poetry and I appreciate it. I'm a strong supporter of choice. I have no right to decide when another woman will become a mother and no one else should presume they do either.

    • Shyron E Shenko profile imageAUTHOR

      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Mike, thank you for the compliment and comment. I appreciate you.

      Blessings as always

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      Demas W Jasper 

      3 years ago from Today's America and The World Beyond

      Interesting takes on the subject.

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      3 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

      Hello Shy - What a bold writer you are. This issue has sustained Congress for fifty years. Without this issue we could retire Congress completely. But, I am just a man, so what do I know.

    • Shyron E Shenko profile imageAUTHOR

      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Bill, thank you for being the first to comment and compliment.

      The lack of comments on here, I think is due to the fact that HP unpublished it. I guess it is to harsh for their sensitive ears, albeit my opinion, which I have a right to.

      I really appreciate your comment.

      Blessings always

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      Bill Holland 

      3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      That about covers it all, my friend. I'm a bit surprised there aren't any comments on this one. It's a hot topic for sure. I rarely give my opinions on topics like this's a no-win situation and breeds the vultures out there who want to shout down anyone who doesn't agree with them. But that's beside the point...lovely job, here. Well done!


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