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Turning Writing Ideas Into Income

Updated on July 2, 2014
This writer, for the most part, writes about life experiences.
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Wherever I look there are things to write about.
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The community in which I write is a marvelous thing to behold. Writing can be a lonely profession so for this writer it is vitally important that I receive feedback of some sort to keep me centered, on track and yes, to feed my soul. For sure I receive daily feedback from the love of my life, Bev, and her words and suggestions are invaluable as I go about each day.

It is also crucial for me to hear from other writers and from the public in general. I tend to write on a personal level and when I receive positive feedback from those out there whom I have never met it gives me incentive to keep writing and keep publishing my work. Without that feedback I may as well write a personal journal for my eyes only.

I have been asked several times where my ideas come from and for that reason I offer this article today. Perhaps we should take a look at the catalog of my writings and see what I write about before tackling the issue of where ideas come from. If, while walking through my process, writers out there are helped in some way then I will be satisfied, for without early suggestions from some very good writers I would have floundered as I established my own writing career.

WRITING TO EARN INCOME

My writing can be separated into two departments: the writing I do for an income and the writing I do for the general online public that also generates a certain amount of passive income.

My income-producing writing comes from several sources. I found many of my early customers online at various sites. On these sites customers post their writing jobs daily and freelance writers are free to apply for those jobs. The jobs range from SEO content writing to resume writing to ghostwriting gigs and everything in-between. Some pay well, like ghostwriting and grant writing, and some pay poorly, like the SEO content jobs. They all, however, build your credentials while providing a little income.

Freelance writing requires patience when first starting out. It takes long hours and perseverance to begin to generate income. For this writer I struggled for several months before I began to see a steady income that could supplement my other endeavors. There will be rejections and quite a few moments of despair but if you believe in your abilities and continue to move forward you will see income. I currently have nine regular customers who require work from me weekly. I could have more but I have chosen to limit this part of my writing so I can concentrate on other areas mentioned below.

The ideas for these articles basically come from the customer. They generally want articles/blogs written about their particular industry. I am given the freedom to generate ideas within the limits of that industry and because I am now established I am rarely edited or asked for a re-write.

The other area that produces income for me is in book publishing and this requires oh so much patience. I published my first fiction novel awhile back called “The 12/59 Shuttle From Yesterday To Today” and although it certainly is not a bestseller it again adds to my credentials and has shown some sales and income. I am now moving into the Kindle book publishing business with my first book, “Loving Life As An Alcoholic,” which can be seen here http://www.amazon.com/Loving-Life-as-Alcoholic-ebook/dp/B007V69VXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1334766719&sr=1-1. There are several more of these in various stages of production at this time.

I moved into the Kindle arena because I no longer have faith in the print publishing business. It is, quite simply, a crap shoot of enormous dimensions and it is becoming harder and harder for a new writer to get read by a publisher let alone published.

There are, of course, other ways to make money as a freelance writer. One obvious one is writing articles for magazines. This is an area I have tried but without enthusiasm. It takes time to break into the magazine niche and time is in short supply for this writer.

GENERAL PUBLIC/PASSIVE INCOME

I do all of this type of writing for a site called HubPages. On this site we can write about anything we choose and using several income-producing programs our articles (Hubs) do, in fact, produce passive income. Where do my ideas come from for this site?

I took the suggestions of some veterans on this site and established several niches in which I write. I have written eighteen articles that have to do with Lifestyle Choices. I have written eleven articles about Alcoholism. Six articles have been about Adoption, several about The Human Experience, several about Funny Google Searches and then an array of articles that do not fit into those categories.

I tend to write about my life and personal experiences. With regards to making money this is not a wise choice on my part because articles that appeal to the general public, oftentimes referred to as “evergreen” articles, tend to attract a much-larger audience and thus generate more income. Oh well! I write because I have a passion to write and subjects that make me passionate are subjects having to do with living life and finding our true self. I leave it to others to write about the best ways to save money and how to properly groom your dog. Those subjects feed the souls of many writers and I say more power to them. It simply is not my thing!

So where do my ideas come from? I do very little research. I do not normally do online searches to see what the hot topics are on any given day. Most of my ideas come from life experiences. Most of my ideas come from observing others and delving deeper into why people act the way they do. The only time I really do any research is when I am writing articles about Funny Google Searches and then my research takes about five minutes.

There have been exceptions to this pattern. I am passionate about the environment so I did do several articles about Earth Day and nature in general, and those required a certain amount of research, but again, the ideas came from my personal passions and not what I thought would sell best on that day.

http://billybuc.hubpages.com/hub/Earth-Day-April-22nd-Activities-For-Your-Children

IN THE END IT COMES DOWN TO INDIVIDUAL CHOICE

The ways to make money as a freelance writer are seemingly endless. I know for a fact I have just scratched the surface in the year and a half I have been toiling away. I am just now starting to reap some of the benefits that come from being out there and becoming established. I was recently contacted by a neighborhood group asking if I’d like to help them with their campaign and other contacts are being made through networking that are paying dividends. I was just chosen to be the online adoption editor for BellaOnline.com, an opportunity I am greatly looking forward to. Again, it will increase my visibility which will in turn increase my earnings potential.

Speaking of networking, most of my efforts to date have been online, but Bev is turning my screws and will soon have me out in the community, face-to-face, establishing more contacts and finding other avenues of work. Do I want to do it? Not particularly but I trust Bev and know she has my best welfare at heart and so I will go out among the masses and meet them, schmooze them and possibly find some more work opportunities by doing so. Bev and I are also creating a website for my writing services and we are quite excited about that new adventure.

So where do the ideas come from? Open your eyes and take a look! How could you not find ideas to write about? I currently have seven nearly-completed articles saved on my desktop; I have one Kindle book that needs my attention, another being published this week and one about my teaching memoirs that is in the planning stage just waiting for me to get to it. For this writer it is not a matter of finding ideas but rather figuring out a way to increase the hours in a day so I can complete everything I want to accomplish.

In short, I find it much easier to generate ideas when I write about things I am interested in and have knowledge about. There is more of a flow to my writing when I'm writing about those topics and my voice is more apparent when the topics are ones I have a passion for. My mind is also much more capable of grabbing a topic out of thin air if I have specific categories that I write in on a regular basis; it seems that my mind is always tuned into those categories as I go about my day i.e. Lifestyle Choices or Funny Google Searches....so when I see a particular behavior or new story or whatever that applies I instantly have the idea for a new article. It has turned out to be a very handy way to organize my mind so that it is always on the alert for article ideas.

FINAL THOUGHTS

The support I have received has been unbelievable. Bev, of course, is my number one supporter and family and friends provide me with joy and encouragement. I have also found the most remarkable people on HubPages and in them have found friends for life. Writing is no longer a lonely profession for me. With the click of the mouse I have access to hundreds of people who have the same passion for writing that I have. With the click of a mouse I can find answers to my questions and praise for my writing. With the click of a mouse I can provide support to those who need it and encouragement to the newcomers just starting out.

Freelance writing is, for this writer, the gift that keeps on giving. I hope you all find as much enjoyment out of writing as I have. Do not be discouraged and do not give up. If this is a passion for you then you owe it to yourself to find a way to make it work.

2012 William D. Holland (aka billybuc)

"Helping writers to spread their wings and fly."

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      Sandra Busby 5 years ago from Tuscaloosa, Alabama, USA

      Thanks, billybuc. I am now turning my own interests into doing some other writing on line and to generating income. I appreciate all your tips.

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      Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

      That's interesting Bill...I love this and thanks for sharing the links.

      I do lots of research - but I do only write about topics I'm very interested in so it doesn't bore me:) lol

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      You are very welcome Sandra; thank you and best of luck to you!

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      Mark G Weller 5 years ago from Lake Charles, LA.

      Great article Bill, I definitely need to find a way to generate income as well. This was very interesting to read and as usual very well written.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Kelly; I can't' imagine you every being bored. :) There is a great enthusiasm that comes from you over the airwaves that is infectious.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Mark! For some reason I wasn't' happy with it but I couldn't figure out why so I just posted it to be done with it. I fretted over the damn thing and then decided it wasn't worth all the fretting. I appreciate your kind words; have a great day my friend.

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      Mary Strain 5 years ago from The Shire

      Write more humor, Billybuc. Your humor is genuinely funny and that's an unusual gift. Share it with the rest of us! And I know what you mean about being disgusted with the publishing world. I have an article coming out in a magazine next month -- 4 1/2 years since I submitted it. It has to be a world's record.

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      Chantele Cross-Jones 5 years ago from Cardiff

      Great article I do wonder where people get ideas from. I would love to be a magazine freelancer on a bigger scale, other than the few locals I write for but I can never think of a good enough idea and would have no clue how to pitch, so I think I have to start working on the smaller stuff and hopefully it will lead to the bigger stuff. got a few gigs writing the odd guest post for a few blogs this week, so it's a start. even if they pay little or nothing, it all helps with getting your name out there I suppose!

      Thank you!

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      Stephanie Hicks 5 years ago from Bend, Oregon

      You can really tell that you write from personal experience and the heart. If a writer does not care about the topic, the result is flat and often uninteresting. I never feel that way after reading your articles!

      Excellent tips and advice. I'm with you - don't do a lot of keyword research, but write on diabetes, family, recipes and occasionally get inspiration from the Weekly Topic here on HP.

      Hope your computer survives and if not, that your absence is short-lived. Best, Stephanie

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      Yvonne Spence 5 years ago from UK

      I agree with you that it’s best to write about subjects that inspire you. I can’t imagine writing at freelance.com - or actually that’s not true - the truth is that when I read about it I imagine that I’d have to write about subjects that hold no interest for me and so I wouldn’t be able to do it. But from what you say here I’m beginning to think maybe I could do with being more open minded about it.

      I love writing on HubPages for all the reasons you give. It’s a hugely rewarding experience. And I agree with Steph that it’s obvious you write from personal experience. It’s what brings articles alive.

      A great hub, and yes, good luck with the computer!

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      Terrye Toombs 5 years ago from Somewhere between Heaven and Hell without a road map.

      What a great hub, billy! While I was reading, my mind was racing with a million ideas. :) I love your conversational tone, it makes reading thru to the end very easy. :) Oh, and if you ever have more work than you can handle, you can throw some my way. LOL! Voting up. Very well written, don't see why you fretted, it was enjoyable. :)

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Molly, congrats on that magazine article but I think you just convinced me to give up trying. I may not have that long to live. :) You got your humor young lady; now I have to write about alternative homes. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      TT, I could work around the clock if I was willing to do it....go to that website that I mentioned on the article and start applying...you'll get rejected more often than not but you will eventually get hired like I did and then you are off and running.

      Take care my friend; I'm looking forward to your next hub!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Daisy, the first three months of my freelance career I began to wonder if I had lost my mind thinking I could make money. Then one job came, then another, and it all just builds on the past. It does help to get your name out there in any way possible and I have no doubt that your career will take off eventually. Best of luck!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Steph, you are a very nice person and I say that sincerely! You are always so kind in your comments and so supportive of what I am trying to do. I just want you to know how much I appreciate you. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Melovy, I do a few SEO articles each week and I hate doing them. They bring in money but there is no enjoyment doing them at all. I'm trying to get myself in a position where I never have to do another for income. Thank you for your kind words and continued support.

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      Wesman Todd Shaw 5 years ago from Kaufman, Texas

      You could also make for a good motivational speaker!

      Very positive vibe, always, on this subdomain!

      I'm encouraged by the RyanKett final statistics ...he deleted his 900 hubs - to be moved elsewhere on his own sites.

      15 million page views and forty thousand dollars. I'd like to make a lot more than that with fifteen million page views....but of course I'm nowhere near any of those statistics....I feel like I must not be working hard enough - but we humans shouldn't ever really compare ourselves to others too much.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      WEsman, those kinds of statistics blow my mind and I actually agree with you that I would have thought he would make more money after that many views....oh well, we plug along and see what we can do. Thank you for your kind words Sir! I admire your willingness to put your heart and soul into everything you write and to speak your mind without the least concern of what others might think. It is refreshing!

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      Paul Richard Kuehn 5 years ago from Udorn City, Thailand

      Billy, I really admire you for your writing talent. You make it look so easy with the 122 hubs in three months plus all of the freelance writing you are doing. I could write more, but after teaching 5th and 6th graders five hours a day, I just am too tired to do more than just keep up with email and read about sports. Like you, I prefer writing about life experiences, but as you mentioned, it doesn't get as many clicks as my articles on how to teach ESL or EFL. Thanks for the freelance information. This is a great hub and I am sharing it with my followers.

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Paul and I completely understand. I taught middle school for fifteen years and was exhausted at the end of each day. Luckily I have the freedom to write now. If I were still teaching I might have 22 hubs rather than 122. Blessings my friend and have a wonderful weekend.

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      htodd 5 years ago from United States

      Freelancing is really great way to earn money online,Freelancing sites like odesk,elance,freelancer are really great to start

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Htodd, great suggestion. Thank you!

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      Shauna L Bowling 5 years ago from Central Florida

      Billy, it's taken me a while to catch up on my emails and Hub reads. For that I apologize. Thank you so much for this very informative hub. As you now, quitting my day job to make way for writing full time is my dream, however, at this particular point in time, it's not practical.

      When I was a TV commercial copywriter/producer, I also freelanced ($50 an hour in the 80's wasn't bad!). My thoughts of freelancing once again is how I found HubPages. But, as you point out, it's passive income at best. However, the exposure and feedback is a huge incentive! It's information such as you offer that is key to the budding professional writer actually having a shot. I learn so much from you - about everything that comes from your soul. I'm truly blessed to have met you.

      Now, for you, my friend.... Congratulations on your successes! I've been leaning towards print publication (this old dog is pretty resistant to change! :-)), but once again, I'm learning from you. Your emergence into Kindle is the way of today, I suppose. I'm tickled to death that Bev is introducing and taking the lead in marketing you in order to open your options. Kudos to both of you!

      Enjoy your evening!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Sha, I didn't know you had experience writing commercials. That's fantastic! Do you have contacts that could help you in publishing? I just don't have the time to send out thousands of query letters to agents and publishers in hopes that one of them one day will actually read my work. Kindle seems like the only logical step for me.

      You, on the other hand, being so much younger than me, have all the time in the world. :)

      Best of luck to you and yes to your comment about Bev...she is my rock and my greatest supporter and I can't imagine life without her.

      love,

      bill

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      Shauna L Bowling 5 years ago from Central Florida

      No, Billy, I no longer have the contacts. It was in the 80's and both the production house and advertising firms for which I worked are now defunct. Plus technology is far beyond what it was then. I wrote TV commercials for local businesses in the Miami/Dade/Ft.Lauderdale area, all of which were aired on local network affiliates (ABC, NBC, CBS). Unfortunately, I have no contacts here, nor did I keep dubs of my commercials. Lesson learned: save everything!

      I did it once and I can do it again, although this time I want to do it on a different level.

      BTW, I'm only 8 years younger than you. That doesn't give me all the time in the world, but I want my remaining time to be spent doing what sparks my passion! (and pay the bills... :-()

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Sha, I will be greatly disappointed if you don't follow your passions, whatever they may be and whichever direction they take you. Live life to the max and never look back with regret.

      love and friendship always,

      bill

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      Mahaveer Sanglikar 4 years ago from Pune, India

      Another useful article for writer from you.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you very much jainsimus; I always appreciate the visit.

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      Rema T V 4 years ago from Chennai, India

      Hi Bill,

      Great hub packed with an intelligent writer's wisdom. I am a content writer presently with a well-paying link-building assignment with a company in NZ. I recently published a hub https://hubpages.com/literature/Freelance-Writing-... to share the knowledge about an online writing website where I used to write before I got this job. You are absolutely right in saying that it is easier and less time-consuming when you write on topics close to your heart. My best work was when I created content for a cosmetic dermatologist and how much I loved my work! I had to do many hours of research but I found the job easy and interesting.

      Great hub from you as always. Sharing the hub with the hub community. Good luck to you in getting your books published. Cheers, Rema.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Rema, thank you so much for the comment and the share. I struggle daily with the paid assignments. I breeze though the articles that speak from my heart. It sounds to me like you understand that perfectly.

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      molometer 4 years ago

      Nice one Bill,

      I haven't tried the freelance route as of yet. I may do sometime. I like the freedom to write what I like and about what I know. As you do. The old adage, I suppose. 'Write what you know'.

      As an ICT teacher, that is what I tend to enjoy writing about.

      Great information as always Bill. Voted up and useful.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Michael, thank you! In a perfect world I wouldn't have to do any SEO work, but so far my world is just a little short of perfect. I'm moving in the right direction, though, so it's all good.

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      Joan Veronica Robertson 4 years ago from Concepcion, Chile

      This hub left me speechless! It is so simply written yet so powerful, I felt very touched by it. I greatly enjoy the way you express your personal outlooks and thoughts, that is so lacking in present day society,where everybody tries to pretend to be someone else! Voted up, awesome, beautiful and interesting! I will think on your ideas and probably reap some for my own writing. Have a good day, and please continue to produce these wonderful messages.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Joan, your comment left me speechless. Thank you so much and if you find value in this article then I am quite happy. I will keep writing my friend; I need to feed the passion.

      Have a wonderful weekend!

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      Paula 4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      billybuc......Numbers are buzzing around in my head and I'm thinking you must write every day and evening...all day and MOST of the evening!! Bless your heart, my oh-so-talented-writer-friend! and more power to ya, I say. I mean, you set out to do this, right? Well, you are doing it and before you know it....that Bill/Bev "Dream" will be right there.....just coming over the horizon!!! I believe it! UP+++

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Hey Paula, and you are pretty close to the truth...I write about ten hours each day...but I know it is a three-year plan so I'm dialed in and ready for the challenge.

      It's odd about this hub....it's an old one and suddenly, just today, it has had five comments. I wonder why that happens? This thing was dead and buried and all of a sudden Hubbers discovered it? Weird.

      But I am always happy to have you visit! You will be happy to know that we are having a short heatwave in the nineties, so now we can experience what all of you have experienced. :)

      Thanks buddy!

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      Paula 4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      OMG....Do NOT even go there with the damned HEAT, please!! Hate it!

      The rediscovery thing happens to us all now and then......depends on who stumbles upon it and then, who picks the ball up from there......hmmm, don't know how I missed this the 1st time around....but, "old" to you...."new" to me!!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Paula, you won't hear me complain about the heat....we only have three days of it to get through and then our old friend the Pacific Ocean will send clouds our way. Until then, I feel your pain...briefly! :)

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      Robin Grosswirth 4 years ago from New York

      Billy, I voted this up and will TWEET it too. This was a great hub on being a writer, how ideas are nurtured and how we as writers can generate some income while doing what is native to our lives.

      Like you, my journey took me into teaching first, but it was writing that was always my master. And now, I've finally come home to write and hopefully will be able to earn some money doing what is indelible in my soul.

      Thank you for bearing your heart and resources.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Robin, you will always get what is in my heart. I spent too many years hiding from who I am, and not opening up....those days are gone and now look out....can't shut me up! LOL Best of luck to you; thank you for sharing this and have a great weekend in New York.

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      Louisa Rogers 4 years ago from Eureka, California and Guanajuato, Mexico

      Hi billybuc, good to be reading you again! I've been following up some of your followers. Hey, thanks for this, because I'm constantly rummaging through my mind for ideas. Some of your themes, though, do strike me as "evergreen," unless I misunderstand the word, such as addiction... isn't that something that most people are affected by in their lives (if not themselves, than a loved one?) And your Living Simply theme, that strikes me as evergreen. By the way, I only found this hub by accident; when a hub writer has as many hubs as you have, how does a reader find them other than scrolling and scrolling? Feel free to answer off line if you prefer. Thanks as ever for your help!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Good morning Louisa! Yep, I guess they are evergreen. Not what I consider evergreen in nature, like how to's and five best steps, but they do appeal to a fairly broad audience.

      Scrolling is about the only way....you can type a keyword into the search box on the top of the HP page and it will take you to related hubs, but then you are scrolling once again. :)

      Thank you my friend; I'll answer your email shortly.

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      John Hansen 2 years ago from Queensland Australia

      Hi Bill, I was just reading DDE's hub "Are Writers Losers" and saw a link to this one so decided to check it out...a couple of years old but still good reading and full of your wisdom. Isn't it great to be a writer?

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      John, I absolutely love being a writer. Sure, there are down days when the words don't flow, but they are so few, and knowing my words will live on long after I have gone is just so cool!

      Thanks for reading one out of the archives.

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      bradmasterOCcal 2 years ago from Orange County California

      billlybuc

      Thanks for you many hubs and guidance that they give to the readers. It is nice to know that you can get an income from writing outside the cybe alls of hp.

      I would say that hp is your hobby, as my definition of a hobby is that it interests you, and it consumes much of your time, and it costs money. The money in your case is in the phrase, "Time is Money". Writing on hp is time spent not in revenue, but in your reward from giving to the community. It is also a synergistic relationship as you receive valuable feedback.

      In my case, I don't write for free, as it actually costs two cents for me to write my opinions. lol.

      Somewhere in your completion of a thousand hubs, a book on how to write might be a worthwhile endeavor. Of course all the good book titles have been taken several times over, but how about "I write in the dark, but I want to be read in the light, and be rewarded.

      I always wonder when I go to Barnes and Noble where is the audience for these tens of thousands of books? How do these books jump from their resting place on the shelves and attract the eye of a potential reader? The question goes unanswered, but the quest for it continues every time I return to the store.

      My point is that for the book that I proposed for you to write must have an audience. At least as much many that are found in Barnes and Noble. Unless, B&N could just be a prison for books, and they don't get out until they serve their time on the shelf.

      Would that proposed book if finished and publish would give you game, and fortune? Probably, only carpal tunnel.

      My comment is much like writing a book. It starts with an idea,and then that idea is fluffled up into plot, and then the work of trying to make it commercial starts to take the fun out of it. The more time taht you spend on fleshing the idea out. The more that it becomes work, the necessary but not fun. Then as it progresses, you look back at what you have so far, and question whether it was that good of idea. Then as you continue, you realize this boat is going to take forever to get into the water. Will it be watertight, and will it take you where you built it to go?

      My boat sunk on the drawing board, I hope you didn't get wet from the big splash it made.

      lol

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Brad, I'll be laughing about your comment for the rest of the day. Right now the chickens are looking at me like I've lost my mind. But there is a lot of truth in what you wrote.

      A book on writing? It could be done for sure. The question is always this: is it worth the time to do? The question is asked because of the points you raised. I have no desire to write a book just for the practice, and I would like to think the book has a chance of actually being purchased by others outside my family....so, is it worth my time.

      We shall see, won't we? Those and other unanswered questions will be faced in the coming months.

      Thank you, my friend, and Happy Thursday to you.

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      bradmasterOCcal 2 years ago from Orange County California

      billybuc

      You are absolutely right about having more than a mere possibility of having success when taking on the time intense project of writing a book. That is one of the reasons why I deleted my hubs on the creative writing project. Thre weren't enough views to warrant further time.

      If a book is created and no one reads it, does it exist? \\

      Mught I suggest a test that would take little time, and possibly produce the answer of whether there is an audience. Take the most populat of your hubs, and use the number of page views that it received, and double it.

      Then write a hub posing the question of how many people would actually buy suck a book, at a nominal price. Then give it two weeks and see how many views it receives during that period.

      BTW

      I wonder. if they ever made a book called, "Gone With the Tide"? It could ave been a great title for the naval version of "Gone With the Wind? lol\

      Gone with the wind was my idea about the book leaving here and scattered through the Ether.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Brad, I can see I'll have to be wide awake before I read any comments by you. LOL You are all over the place, changing directions without a turn signal. :) Thanks, buddy. I just might try your suggestion about the most popular hub. Sounds interesting.

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      bradmasterOCcal 2 years ago from Orange County California

      billybuc

      OK, are you awake now?

      Here is a fun math question.

      Here is a math question

      How long will it take two trains to intersect with each other.

      The two trains are in the middle of the US.

      The D train headed West

      The R train headed East

      The trains are run by pedal power

      There are 525 pedals on each train.

      The speed of the train is determined by how many pedals are manned.

      The people of the US determine how many pedals are manned in each train. The maximum number between the two trains is 525.

      Each pedal has a variable speed with a max of 1 mph, and it is dependent on how fast the pedal is rotated.

      There is only one answer that solves the question.

      The number of pedals on each train however can vary, but not exceed the total of 525 for both trains.

      ? How long will it take for the D and R trains to intersect with each other.?

      Did you get the answer?

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Brad, if one is heading west and one heading east, intersection might be a bit tough, don't you think? Unless they somehow hydrofoiled over oceans and then eventually ran headlong into each other in Greece. :)

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      bradmasterOCcal 2 years ago from Orange County California

      billybuc

      Great to see you awake and aware.

      Now, that was metaphor of the Democrat and Republican parties. Yet, the average voter believes in bipartisanship.

      I just had to share that one.

      I guess, I could have also use the Hatfields, and the McCoys.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Brad, I've seen a variation of that riddle many times. It's amazing how many people miss the key phrase right out of the gate. I've laughed watching people spend quite a bit of time trying to answer it mathematically. Glad I didn't let you down. As for the two major parties, I have little hope left. You know what happened to the Hatfields and McCoys, don't you? Of course you do.

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