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Some Fringe Theories Not So Odd

Updated on February 27, 2018
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Jack is currently a volunteer at the Westchester County Archives. Jack has worked at IBM for over 28 years.

Introduction

The history of our world has been through ups and downs. The conventional wisdom, if there ever was, is sometimes proven wrong years later. Even the scientific community has been wrong in their theories until new evidence come to light. No one is infallible.

- Feb. 2018

Background

Here are three examples from our past. First, the earth was thought to be flat in ancient times. Until the time of Columbus, who sailed around the world, where he proved the earth is round. The same was the case when we thought the earth to be the center of the universe. Copernicus, discovered that the sun is actually the center of our solar system and that all planets revolve around it. In addition, we learned later the orbit is not circular but elliptical.

Finally, for years we though we understood the physical world and Newton and his theory of gravity and motions of the planets were thought to be complete until Einstein came up with the theory of relativity in the 20th century. Now we understand that time and space is relative.

Just as with these ground breaking theories, it took time and science to prove they were true and that the earlier theories were either wrong or incomplete.

Some Theories That are Considered Fringes

  • Ancient alien theory
  • 12th planet existence
  • AGW skeptic (man caused global warming)
  • Hollow earth theory and Atlantis
  • Extinction of the dinosaurs (65 million years ago)
  • Noah’s global flood
  • Intelligent design as alternative to theory of evolution

Details...

Ancient alien theory propose that the earth was visited by extra terrestrial beings in our distant past and that they were instrumental in our development and our technology to build these ancient megaliths. They may even be instrumental in our evolution into the modern human form. They were considered by our ancestors to be “gods” because we did not understand the advanced technology they possess.

Zacharia Sitchin proposed that the solar system has another planet, which he coined “12th planet”, including the current 9 planets and adding the sun and moon. His theory is that according to Sumerian texts, there is an advanced civilization living on this planet which has a very elliptical orbit that comes around every 3600 years. They came to earth and created man as workers to mine gold. They have returned every 3600 years to check on our progress and to inject new technology to help us progress. Recent announcement by NASA in the possible existence of planet “X” may solve this problem.

Climate change or global warming is the current conventional wisdom that humans with its fossil fuel usage has created this environmentsl crisis. There are skeptics who believe this is a natural phenonmenon and that climate has always been changing and it is due primarily to natural occurances like the sun spot cycle.

The hollow earth theory was advanced by Edmond Halley in the 17th century. He claimed the earth is hollow and that another world exists within the earth which may be habitable to humans. Advanced civilizations like Atlantis as told by Plato may exist within the earth.

The sudden extinction of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago led to the rise of mammals and us humans. It is unclear how this extinction came about and some have postulated the collision with an asteroid may be the cause. Recent discoveries in sediments accross the globe points to the validity of that theory. No one really knows for sure. It was a one time event.

Noah’s flood described in the Bible was thought to be a fable. Recent archeological discoveries have point the existence of a global calamity. This may explain the various creation stories common among many primitive civilizations across the globe.

Theory of evolution as proposed by Darwin in the 19th century is now widely accepted by scientists and taught in our schools. Yet, it still remains illusive because the lack of fossil evidence. The missing links are disturbing. The mechanism of slow mutation and natural selection to explain the vast genetic changes does not seem plausible. Time will tell if this is the correct model or perhaps some “intelligent design” by aliens or by supernatural forces are at play.

Zacharia Sitchin

Summary

Ideas may come and go. Truth will always remain. The theories of the past will survive depend on the science and the facts. What was a fringe idea may proof to be true. That is progress.

© 2018 Jack Lee

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    • tsadjatko profile image

      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      Jay, again you totally ignore every informed and educated explanation for your contentions and present inane defensible lies about scripture, scripture that it is obvious you have never even tried to study and understand. Woe to you on account of anyone who listens to your deceptions and is lead by you to a false christianity.

      I suppose you believe Jesus doesn't believe in hell and hasn't condemned anyone to eternal punishment? Jesus taught from the old testament in the synagogues and never denied a single thing in the old testament but used it all. No Bible spokesman places more stress on hell as the final consequence of God’s judgment of condemnation than Jesus. God’s Son was the great theologian of hell. But you say "Jesus did not condemn anyone?" Jay you are not learning of Jesus from any Bible that has ever been written if you believe that.

      One thing that is very telling of everything I have said, Jay reveals his enormous pride in his misguided opinions by his habit of ignoring my researched and grounded in truth responses to his questions while instead he repeatedly unflinchingly finds away to promote his own hub pages in your comment section Jack, in blatant violation btw of hub page's stated rule here "Comments are not for promoting your articles."

      It is obvious what his main goal is, to promote his articles because they are so inane they probably get no traffic and he has no respect for the truth or rules.

    • Jay C OBrien profile image

      Jay C OBrien 

      5 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      TSAD: Jesus said: love one another, Not kill one another.

      Jesus did not condemn anyone, ever, even to the cross.

      Jesus Forgave everyone.

      I follow Jesus and his teachings, Not the Rabbis.

      Rabbis teach a Warrior, Killer God based on what they saw.

      An alternative explanation for the OT is that the Hebrews mistook a high- tech people as Gods or Angles.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      I agree Jack, allegory is a beautifully artistic way of explaining spiritual matters in easily understood terms. Through the Bible’s allegories, God helps us understand difficult concepts through a more relatable context. He also reveals Himself as the Great Storyteller, working through history to foreshadow and carry out His plan. We can rejoice that we have a God who addresses us in ways we can understand and who has given us symbols and allegories to remind us of Himself.

      But Jack, that is not an answer to my question. You never answer my questions. You are very good at avoiding answering any of my questions which leads me to believe you either can't or don't want to simply because you are too invested in your own understanding and don't want to see anything in the light of scripture because it will diminish your pride in your own opinion.

      Avoidance tells the whole story, I'm sorry for you.

      Jay, obviously you have not even attempted to understand or even read the links I gave you or you would never respond as you have. You have just declared all of Christianity mentally ill and are totally blind to the truth. Your "god" is not the God of creation, your Jesus is not the Jesus seated on the throne with the Father, at the right hand of the Father, you are leaning upon your own understanding while ignoring the very Word of God himself to come to your heretical conclusions. Talking to you is as talking to a wall and I am not surprised. The truth of the gospel is what sets people free. Satan attempts to blind people from that truth. Satan gives power to his own ministers.It is no great thing therefore if his ministers also fashion themselves as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works (2 Corinthians 11:15). Satan has the ability to control hearts and minds. And Satan entered into Judas who was called Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve (Luke 22:3).Satan lies, denies, and misrepresents the truth. To Eve he said. And the serpent said unto the woman, You shall not surely die (Genesis 3:4).Satan attempts to get the unbeliever to think about subjects other than the gospel of Christ. Finally, Satan attempts to get people to falsely place their trust in themselves, religion, or good works. He wants people to feel religiously satisfied, but without having a saving knowledge of Christ. The Bible says.

      There is a way which seems right unto a person, but the end thereof are the ways of death (Proverbs 16:25).His ultimate goal is the destruction of people.

      And be not afraid of them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell (Matthew 10:28).

      You Jay are a disciple of Satan, not of the real Jesus who to believe you must be as evil as God for not informing us that the old testament is a lie, Atlantis is the answer and Cayce is a saint.

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      5 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Tsad, the Bible is the Word of God. What is in the Bible is the truth as I understand it. Some of it is bssed on history and some of it is allegory. However, it is not a complete record of all that is in our universe. Just like the Bible does not speak of other star systems like Orion and the constellations...

      It is not a violation of Christian belief if it is revealed in the future that another civilization of creatures exist elsewhere. If we ever make contact with them, perhaps we can share our experiences and may learn more about the one true God...

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      Jay C OBrien 

      5 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      TSAD: My sources are the parables of Jesus. Jesus is what God is like, not the Rabbis version.

      "And what makes you think God has no right to kill people?"

      Only a mentally ill person would have a God who wanted to kill children.

      For further explanation see:

      https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/The-Book-...

    • tsadjatko profile image

      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      "That is to say, you can belief everything in the Bible and still believe there may be other life forms in the universe."

      So Jack, if you believe everything in the Bible I must assume you do because you know, not believe but know, it is all true, the inerrant the Word of God.

      So tell me why, what is your basis for believing "there may be other life forms in the universe" (your words).

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      5 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Tsad, thereis nothing in the Bible about UFO or lack thereof or alien life for that matters. The two are not mutually exclusive. That is to say, you can belief everything in the Bible and still believe there may be other life forms in the universe.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      So Jay: Let me see if I understand you!

      Exactly what "god" do you believe in if not the God of the Bible? Exactly what source do you have for the nature of your "god" because if you don't believe the Word of the God of the Bible you must have conjured up a "god" of your own understanding, seen through your perspective and not seen through the eyes of the true creator of everything that is. A God of your imagination who meets your requirements of who what and how a God should be. A god who can't reveal himself to mankind through his word but needs fables like Atlantis and known deceivers like Casey to explain him? Give me a break.

      You have no understanding whatsoever of the power and glory of the God of the universe who is infinite and not subject to his creation, exactly what you are attempting to do, subject God to your understanding which is feeble considering you are the sinful creature that you are. We "are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away."

      Your questions are taken out of context. Anything written in scripture must be considered in the context of the entire Bible. You can take any sentence or phrase from the Bible and make whatever you wish of it - that practice is deception and pure evil and considering the hubs you have written on spiritual subjects I am not surprised, you are far gone down the road to perdition. The sad thing is if you really had an open mind you would have long ago searched for the answers I am going to give you before buying into what you have ignoring scripture like "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight."

      And what makes you think God has no right to kill people - he created the universe, all humanity has transgressed his laws, rejected the creator. If you knew anything about scripture you'd know that there is no innocent human being in God's eyes. We are all transgressors and deserving of death and punishment. This is the only reason, along with repentance, that accepting the punishment Christ took on your behalf is how any human can escape punishment and be saved.

      https://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/what-made-i...

      https://www.ligonier.org/blog/why-did-god-command-...

      If you were open minded, Jay, you would be seeking out Bible commentary by reputable sources and meditate on it. If you did, as I did in searching for answers to such questions many years ago, I'm sure you would come to different conclusions about this stuff than you have and probably regret the way you couch your questions as the ones you asked me.

      http://christianthinktank.com/madgod.html

      But you are not open minded, far from it and I only regret that you are in a place so far from God you won't find a way back.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      Jack, you can only be a Christian if you believe the Bible is the word of God (as did Jesus) and the fact that God alone created life and the universe for his glory. If you don't believe the whole Bible, the old testament from which Jesus cited and never questioned or denied any of it, then how can you insist that it is plausible to believe Jesus when THE BIBLE says he said: "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

      If you believe any part of scripture is not the truth there is no reason to believe any of it is the truth for it self declares itself to be the truth, THE Word of God. You can't pick and choose scripture out of context because it fits your understanding and ignore the rest.

      So if you claim to be a Christian and yet believe in things that are contradictory to scripture how can I believe you are really a Christian (or that Christianity is even true) as explained in the Bible, if the Bible is not all true?

      There is nothing in the Bible that even hints that there is life anywhere else in the universe and the core lie that that belief comes from is evolution.

      On top of that you know there is no way, since you put so much stock in science, alien life forms could ever reach earth or anyone from earth could discover alien life elsewhere in the universe because of the vast infinite distances involved, unless of course you IMAGINE somehow there exists an unknown means of transportation that defies the known laws of physics, that life somewhere is so far advanced over us that it has the ability to harness this imagined technology or secret law of the universe and can be anywhere in the universe it wishes anytime.

      Can God create life elsewhere in the universe? Well it's for sure he isn't going to do it just to satisfy the whims and pipe dreams of any human being, Jack. And if he has or does it is of absolutely no concern of yours or he would have informed you of it in his word, that you can count on, if you are a Christian that is.

      So have fun trying to entice people to put stock in "fringe theories" and other people's pipe dreams if you wish, mostly lies of Satan, no different than his deception of Adam and Eve. Counterfeits of Satan are not things a Christian should be putting stock in or promoting in anyway.

      I'm not saying you aren't a Christian Jack, I asked "Jack if you believe "There is not one of two choices when it comes to the question of our origins or our belief in God. Both and perhaps many other explanations are possible." then how can you call yourself a Christian?

      You haven't come close to answering my question.

      Jay, I have to go now but I will come back to answer your questions if Jack allows it. Just be a little while.

      Your question says so much more about you than it says anything about God, the Bible or anything God has done - you really need to look elsewhere for answers instead of Satan's playground.

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      Jay C OBrien 

      5 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      TSAD: Let me see if I understand you. Do you believe in a God who killed Canaanite children? Is your God:

      Jealous?

      Vengeful?

      Wrathful?

      a Killer of people?

      Did The Lord fight (and kill) for Israel?

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      5 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Tsad, no, I am just being realistic and looking at evidence.

      Besides, one has nothing to do with the other. Being Christian does not preclude one from believing in alien life. Who is to say God did not create life on other planets or star systems?

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      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      Well Jack if you believe "There is not one of two choices when it comes to the question of our origins or our belief in God. Both and perhaps many other explanations are possible." then how can you call yourself a Christian?

      Do you really think Jesus would condone that statement? You are as misguided as Jay.

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      5 months ago from Yorktown NY

      I think it is worth noting that the existence of alien visitors to our plant does not explain religion or God or faith or the supernatural. The two are not mutually exclusive. That is for example, years ago, when the subject of crop circles was being discussed, and a video surfaced of hoax by some Englishmen, they thought all is explained and yet many crop circles have not been explained. The way they came about and the speed and the sightings of UFO near by all adds to the mystery. There is not one of two choices when it comes to the question of our origins or our belief in God. Both and perhaps many other explanations are possible.

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      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      Jay you are so uninformed and misguided. You lean too much upon your own understanding (proverbs 3:5) and ignore scripture. It is obvious you do not search the scriptures to find the true answers to your preconceived conclusions (like "God would never harm people as so many stories in the Bible describe").or you would never say the things you do..you are so closed minded it's a joke that you would suggest that anyone be open minded. Your conception of God is not based on scripture but your own vane imagination. Scripture is the word of God, the only truthful description of God and your ideas do not fit it. To ignore any part of scripture to form an opinion of God or Christianity you might as well make up anything you want to believe so don't pick and choose what you wish from the Bible to satisfy your own ego, and that is what you are doing. .

      "How can an evil spirit heal?" The answer is, absolutely, but in a very ‘counterfeit’ sort of way.

      I suggest you read "The Beautiful Side of Evil" - Johanna Michaelsen and watch this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6Qy1j2LBmU

      The answers to any spiritual question you may have can be found in the Bible, you only need to seek. If you googled "How can an evil spirit heal?" you would have found this among other similiar explanations yet you obviously don't even want to hear it. https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/12/08/can-...

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      5 months ago from Yorktown NY

      That may only explain part of the story...there are still many supernatural events that cannot be explained even with a more advanced alien race. The prime example being the resurrection of Christ.

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      Jay C OBrien 

      5 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      "Scientist recognize only physical world and yet the whole spiritual world is ignored."

      I agree with you. My point is that God is Good, Totally Good and always has been. God would never harm people as so many stories in the Bible describe. There must be an explanation for these stories and I have provided one: A high-tech people were misidentified as God and Angles by a low-tech people.

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      5 months ago from Yorktown NY

      I have written about this in other hubs, but my impression of God is that it is supreme and it created man in his image but gave man free will. This allows man to choose his own path and whether to worship god or not. By giving free will, he cannot intervene in every case even though he has the power to do so. Otherwise it takes away the who,e idea of free will. So when bad things happen, it is not God’s fault or his blame. He did in rare occasions intervene and that is when “miracles” happen. His super natural intervention is the miracles we know of today and they are as real as you and I. Scientist recognize only physical world and yet the whole spiritual world is ignored.

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      Jay C OBrien 

      5 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      From cited article: "Cayce’s record at providing healing remedies was so good, I doubt that this was a mere psychological phenomena.

      Having read most of Cayce’s writings, I have concluded that Cayce was no fraud."

      So we agree Cayce was no fraud and he healed people.

      The article says he was possessed by evil spirits. How can an evil spirit heal? If Satan casts out Satan, is that a good thing?

      By atrocities I refer to the stories in the Bible. See:

      https://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/...

      There must be a different explanation for the Bible because God is Good and does not kill or harm people, especially children.

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      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      Jay, for you to say God needs to be absolved of atrocities only demonstrates how uninformed about, no actually blind to, scripture you are. Your obsession with "altantians" and the likes of Cayce is a sickness and you should be looking for deliverance from it. How gullible you must be to buy into this garbage without ever having studied and educated yourself about scripture and true Christianity.

      This is a link you should be reading

      http://christinprophecy.org/articles/edgar-cayce/

      That is if you had an open mind.

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      Jay C OBrien 

      5 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      TSAD: the article cited provides an explanation for Old Testament stories which absolves God of atrocities. I think having a "Good God"/ Ideal is better than current teaching of having a Jealous, Vengeful, Wrathful God. See:

      https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Atlantian...

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      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      Jack, I like you. I have complimented you on some of your hub pages as you know and I have been critical on some points you've made. The thing I have noticed through all this is you take enormous pride in what you say and how you say it, so much so that you ignore constructive criticism and demonstrate in your replies to comments that nothing is going to change your mind about any opinion of your own that you express even if it means attacking the messenger which is exactly what you did here, no perception but the truth. You have a lot of trouble distinguishing between perception and truth, a point I made about this Hub Page you wrote. You really should watch that documentary I gave you, it explains clearly how your thoughts about "fringe theories" is confused.

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      5 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Tsad, I don’t usually read up on people’s profile but in your case, you were an enigma. I am not attacking you but if you perceive it as one so be it.

      I am just happy you stopped by and read my article. I don’t write them to get approval. If you follow me, I write what is on my mind. I have been publishing for 3 years on a regular basis. I have just reached the 500th mark.

      If you have a direct question for me, just ask. I am not trying to avoid anything or deflect or change the topic. I usually carry on conversations or debate with other hubbers here but you seem to be wanting more.

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      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      So Jack, when someone disagrees with you and is winning the discussion your tactic is to attack them and find someway to switch the topic to them personally? Nice try, Jack but just another FAIL.

      Well Jack if you had checked my profile long ago, the first times you encountered me, you'd know I had over 40 articles. You don't get the followers and accolades I have with no articles. Of course this goes along with your lack of depth in much of what you write.

      I recently unpublished all my articles because the Hub Pages did away with the floating capsule which I used extensively. Consequently all my hub Pages were flagged as having pictures too small (after, rather than have to waste enormous time fixing 40+ hub pages I just unpublished them and have no intentions of writing more for Hub Pages). Of course you and your 500 word wonder hubs wouldn't encounter that problem.

      So what does my hub pages have to do with yours and anything you have said here? Anyone, even non members of hub pages can comment on hub pages. Writing, which I have done, is not a requirement. It's obvious you have surrendered rationality in responding to my comments. I would have thought more of someone with such a professed belief in science. Appears to me you act more like a liberal than a conservative.

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      5 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Tsad, I checked your profile and was wondering why are you on HubPages? You don’t seem to publish any articles...Just curious.

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      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      My last comment wasn't aimed at you jack but for Jay. But in answer to you, it depends on your definition of alternative - there can't be various differing theories of history, the truth doesn't exist in multiple versions that differ and you don't have to wait for the truth - in most cases it's right in front of you as the documentary debunking "ancient astronauts" demonstrates. You should find time to watch it Jack, you'd understand what I mean.

      And nothing I have said is even near irrational, wish I could say the same for you.

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      5 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Tsad, careful, you are sound more irrational and putting words into my mouth.

      I wrote this piece to start a conversation and as a reminder that not all fringe theories are wacky...

      There are plenty of circumstantial evidence that points to an alternaive history of our world.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      lol There is a difference between having an open mind and believing other people's "pipe dreams" about legends or occurrences. An open mind is not the equal of gullibility. An open mind means you have the ability to consider something without prejudice. What you are suggesting in your hub page is to believe imagined explanations of things that actually have nothing to do with any evidence but are purely contrived explanations that belong in fantasy land..

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      Jay C OBrien 

      5 months ago from Houston, TX USA

    • tsadjatko profile image

      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      Well Jack the problem with that thinking is that no matter what the event or discovery of a fossil is it will be explained away by the perpetrators (who have alternate agendas) of false theories that have already been debunked (like ancient astronauts). Explained away either with lies or a change to the theory explaining away proof that the theory is wrong. We have seen this with evolution, the big bang, flat earth, you name it - these "theories" will never go away as long as there is a dumbed down and gullible population ready and willing to believe anything and trust their emotions over reason.

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      5 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Thanks for the link, I will check it out. My point in this hub is to recognize that sometimes fringes become main stream over time. The ufo phenomenon is world wide. We are one event away from the realization we are not alone in this universe. The same goes for evolution. We are one fossil discovery away from debunking the whole theory. Thanks for checking in.

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      TSAD 

      5 months ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

      Jack, I really don't see where you are going with this hub page. "The truth will remain?"

      So what is the truth? You don't even present it in relation to any of these "fringe theories." The fact is we don't have to wait to find out the truth and wouldn't it be nice to know the truth as it exists now instead of waiting for "fringe theories" to die or be disproven by fact?

      News flash, fringe theories never die and can exist in spite of science and the facts. Case in point, the flat earth! Let's start with "Ancient Aliens"...have you ever seen this?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9w-i5oZqaQ

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      5 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Jay, I am keeping an open mind. I have my opinions and bias just like anyone else. I published many of my ideas here on HubPages... I have over 500 articles on various topics. You are welcome to check them out.

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      Jay C OBrien 

      5 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      We do not seem to know the Truth. What we need are facts leading to a conclusion. What is your conclusion?

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