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The Writer's Mailbag: Installment 175

Updated on November 6, 2017

The Fire Is Crackling

Up at six this morning, I was, as is my norm. To my surprise, Bev was already up and had the woodstove fire already drafting and burning.

What a lovely surprise!

I love me a good fire . . . as long as it’s contained, of course. There is something very relaxing and comforting about a fire inside while fall/winter roars outside. It’s a great way for me to begin my writing day.

And that’s what I wish for you, today and always . . . a great writing day! Be proud of what you do. Whether you know it or not . . . whether you doubt your abilities or not . . . whether you have sold one damned book or not . . . you are an integral part of this society!

So carry on!

Welcome back to the Mailroom
Welcome back to the Mailroom | Source

Responsibility to Write

From Eric: “Are you in a state where that talent within you is a responsibility to others? What you write you are obligated to share? And you are obligated to write?”

Eric, I absolutely love your questions, and I can tell from them that you are riding a “writing high.” There ain’t nothing like it, is there?

Yes, to answer your question, and I feel strongly about that. There are few out there among the seven billion who inhabit this planet who can do what we do. We have a gift, and gifts should not be squandered and wasted.

When I was a junior in high school, the star pitcher on our baseball team was drafted by the Houston Astros. He received a signing bonus, and it was a big deal in our town, local boy heading for the big time, yada, yada, yada. So he packed his bags, boarded a plane, and went to Houston’s training camp. One thing led to another and that teenager ran afoul with alcohol. He drank himself out of professional baseball in two years.

Such a waste!

We owe it to our community . . . to our society . . . to use our talents and write. I also believe we owe it to ourselves, and to everyone, to be the best writers we can be and to never stop tending to our craft.

Just my thoughts!

Stealing Our Work

From Venkatachari M: “This week all questions are centered around book writing and publishing and are very useful for me in writing my book. But, I am afraid if anybody stealing the contents while proof reading. Isn't it possible?”

Yes, Venkatachari M, it is possible and does, in fact, happen. I choose my beta readers very carefully. They are people I have known for a number of years and I trust them . . . but still, several are online friends. I have never met them. It is entirely possible that they would steal my work and then the headaches, and heartaches, would begin.

You can safeguard against such theft by having proofreaders and beta readers sign legal documents but really, what safeguard is that? The bottom line, and a truth we all have to live with, is that there are disreputable people out there who would not hesitate to steal your work. It happens with articles daily, so why not entire books?

And realistically copyrighting your work does not stop thieves.

So cross your fingers and hope that you know, or hire, reputable people to read your works.

Any one of these people could steal my work and I can't stop them.
Any one of these people could steal my work and I can't stop them. | Source

Public Photos

From Dana: “Hey, Bill, I was taking some photos in public the other day, and I was going to use a couple of them in a Hub, but then I started to question whether I could use photos of people without their permission. Do you know if that is legally allowed?”

Yes, it is!

People out in public have very few “rights of privacy.” You may not go onto someone else’s property to photograph them. That is called intrusion and that privacy is protected. You cannot use a photo of someone in a false way or an unflattering way. And you cannot continually harass someone by following them around and taking a constant stream of photos. That is called stalking and harassment.

But people sitting in a coffee shop, or walking down the street, or sitting on a park bench . . . you may photograph them without legal concerns.

Below this is a photo I’ve used often in articles of mine. I took it at a street fair, and the subject of the photo, the lady in blue (purple?) captivated me with her smile. Sorry, lady, but you have no right to privacy regarding this photo. J

Great smile, don't you think?
Great smile, don't you think? | Source


From Robert: “What happens if, after you have published your book through CreateSpace and Amazon, you notice a mistake in the manuscript? What can you do to correct that mistake?”

It really is not that big a deal, Robert. Go into your manuscript, which I assume is on a Word Doc, and correct your mistake. Then download a new doc on the CreateSpace website. You can edit your self-published books any old time you want to and it doesn’t cost you a thing. The only thing it’s going to cost you is time, as in a couple days while CreateSpace formats the new book Doc and announces that it is ready for purchase.

Better Sites Than Hubpages

From Alyssa: “You’ve been on HP for some time now. I’m here now but thinking of changing. Have you heard of any other sites which maybe pay more? Money is an issue for me, and it seems to be fairly difficult to make a payout on HP.”

Here’s the thing, Alyssa: it’s reasonably difficult to make a FAST payout on any content site. I’m sure there are other sites, like HP, out there, but I doubt they are much easier to make a payment. It takes time to see decent money on these sites. They are not in business to give the writers the majority of the profits. That is a reality you need to grasp, and I don’t say that as a slam on HP or as a chastisement to you. That’s just the real world! HP does not offer a 60-40 split, nor do any other sites. It’s more like a 98-2 split with you getting the 2.

In all fairness, if you pay your dues, put in the time, and write quality articles, it is still possible to make decent money on HP. I know writers . . . friends of mine who I trust . . . who are still making money on articles they wrote for HP eight years ago. Every month they get a payout from HP, and they haven’t written an article for HP in a couple years. I know a couple writers who make over $400 per month on HP.

So pay your dues, and if I hear about some miracle site which pays us a 60-40 split, I’ll let you know.

And Now Back to Life

The fire is still burning. The animals have been fed. A gentle rain is falling and all is right in my world.

Thanks for joining me in the Mail Room. I hope the rest of your day is fulfilling. Remember, you are one of the chosen few, and that alone is reason to celebrate!

And no, you aren’t going crazy or growing senile . . . Daylight Savings Time has ended!

2017 William D. Holland (aka billybuc)

“Helping writers to spread their wings and fly.”


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    • billybuc profile imageAUTHOR

      Bill Holland 

      13 months ago from Olympia, WA

      All very true, Lawrence. Thank you for sharing that. Write for the love of writing, and everything else will happen in good time.

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      Lawrence Hebb 

      13 months ago from Hamilton, New Zealand


      Very interesting what you say about hp and payouts. I'm not one who'll be getting even my first anytime soon!

      I'm not sure how many articles are 'critical mass' to start generating income, not even sure how many 'hits' an article gets is important, but one thing I do know, as long as my writing is here, there's the possibility of people reading my material!

      Maybe those folks will come back for more, then again, maybe they'll tell a friend what they enjoyed about the story!

      Or maybe we just need to enjoy putting a story together, and do our best with the marketing.

      It takes a couple of years for even the best books to get noticed, so keep at it friends, keep at it.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Nithya, crossing our fingers is about as effective a way to combat it as any, I'm afraid.

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      Nithya Venkat 

      14 months ago from Dubai

      Great questions and answers. The possibility of people stealing other people's work is a possibility even though there are legally binding documents. Crossing our fingers and hoping for the best may work.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Dream On my friend, it's good to hear from you. Yes, it has been too long and yes, I shoulder some of that blame. We all get busy, I'm afraid. None of us has the time to spend on HP like we once did, and that is a sad truth. Still, I consider you a good friend, and I am sorry. Thank you for spending some time with me this morning.

      Blessings to you always


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      DREAM ON 

      14 months ago

      The Writer's Mailbag: Installment 175. I am speechless. I am shocked and amazed at the same time. I know from experience and from everyone I have ever met they keep telling me everything changes and nothing stays the same. All you have to do is wait. Well I am going to be the first to prove myself and everyone else I know they are all wrong. When I first read one of your hubs years ago and now I have come back to read another hub they are the same. Exactly the same. Good, helpful, honest. rewarding, understanding, respectful, charming, creative for starters. It's been too long since I have read one of your wonderful hubs. I tried to throw myself deeper into my writing than being concerned with reading everyone else's hubs.. I am easily distracted and get lost in any number of stories and hubs people write. That was not balanced for me either. Now I am easing my way back and trying to find a happy medium. I was wondering if HubPages is doing any better than before as a writing site. I thought since you were having a fireside chat I could at least bring some wood for the fire. Thank you for sticking around and sharing so many incredible hubs. I would of left for work already but I was able to leave a little later than usual. That gave me just enough time to drop you my latest thoughts. I have to go for now but here are some marshmallows for you and Beverly. There is nothing like the crackling of a fire to ignite the wonders of life. Take care your long lost friend Dream On.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      It is the way of the world, Sparrow. Many desperate people willing to do anything to support themselves, I'm afraid.

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      14 months ago

      Interesting as always Sir Billy :) It is sad to know that people could steal your work. I guess trust is very important. Thanks for sharing :)

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      MizB, I dream of weather like you are having. Winter is long here, and the rains constant. It is a true test of perseverance. :)

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      Doris James-MizBejabbers 

      14 months ago from Beautiful South

      Wonderful questions and great answers in this weeks mailbag, Bill. I agree that we are rare birds who are good at what we do, but it's a pity that this country doesn't recognize the arts as being necessary. Sports, yes, math and sciences, yes.

      So you and Bev are enjoying a nice fire. Good for you. I had to turn on the AC again while I was cooking a pot of pinto beans one day this week. Today I was comfortable outside in a light cotton shirt with long sleeves. What kind of weather is this? Enjoy, my friend.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Peg, I just can't image the heat at this time of year. It is so foreign to me and my lifestyle...hoping it cools off a bit for you folks.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      And, Dora, I might add selling us all short if you did not write.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Peg! Sorry about that DMCA....there seems to be no end to those who would steal the works of others for their own gain.

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      Peggy Woods 

      14 months ago from Houston, Texas

      Waking up to a warm fire is nice. I look forward to being able to use our fireplace again. We are currently having a few cooler days in Houston right now but have recently been breaking all time highs for November. Upper 80s. I always enjoy your mailbag posts.

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      Dora Weithers 

      14 months ago from The Caribbean

      Bill, all the questions and answers are good. This week, I especially like Eric's. I agree with you too. So many parts of my purpose are fulfilled in my writing, I'd be selling myself short if I didn't write.

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      Peg Cole 

      14 months ago from Northeast of Dallas, Texas

      Glad to know that public photos are not restricted. I had wondered about that as I take lots of photos. Love the one of the lady with the smile. Also, for the first time in a long while I received a red circled C on one of my top hubs. Pfshaw. Looks like they are still up to no good. One more DMCA to fill out.

      Another great release with a lot of important information. Thanks!

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      All excellent points, Michael my friend. Personal responsibility should always come into play. Quality people always consider it in their actions.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      it's coming soon, Jo, and then that investment will pay off tenfold. :) Thanks for being here.

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      14 months ago

      Though talents are personally manageable we would like using them for personal benefit as well for the welfare of a fellowmen be it in writing or any other capacity. With responsibility I would assume goes answerability . We are equally accountable to ourselves as well to others for our words / products of our mind/hands reaching those who come across our paths.

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      Mary Wickison 

      14 months ago from Brazil

      Regarding the question about photos, I still think there is a gray area there. Let me explain why.

      For example, when I get images off of Pixabay, the book cover site I design for will not allow any part of a human body. Those types of images must come from a paid site, such as Shutterstock etc.

      However, this past week I found out that a MAJOR stock photo site is downloading from Pixabay and then charging people as though it were one of their contributing photographers.

      It is, of course, legal as photos on Pixabay just ask for donations.

      Great mailbag, as always.

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      Jo Miller 

      14 months ago from Tennessee

      When we built our home here in the woods of Tennessee we built frugally, doing much of the work ourselves. But we invested in a good quality fireplace with a glass door and blower. One of the best investments I've ever made. It's been unseasonably warm here lately, though, but a good, cool fall day with a fire burning sounds wonderful.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Aww, thanks, Dennis! That was very kind of you.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Chitrangada Sharan! I'm glad to hear you don't worry about stolen work. There isn't much that can be done, I'm afraid.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Eric, that might just be the toughest question you have posed. I'll try, buddy. Love your simile about walking with dad to get the newspaper.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Great point, Mike! I'm still waiting.

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      Gypsy Rose Lee 

      14 months ago from Riga, Latvia

      Another awesome mailbag. Gathering the courage and preparing to get my e-book of poems together. I will have to go the whole process myself putting together, reading through and finally to publishing. Now about photos I would like to add photos with my poems. What is best using my own photos or taking from Pixabay. Is it alright to not use any photos?

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      Dennis L. Page 

      14 months ago from New York/Pennsylvania border

      I thoroughly enjoyed your fireside chat. I felt the warmth of the fire within you as we were welcomed into your home. You have an uncanny ability to inspire, educate, and motivate people to write more and to reach higher in achieving their goals. Thank you for giving me a subtle kick in the backside to write just a few more words today than I did yesterday.

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      Chitrangada Sharan 

      14 months ago from New Delhi, India

      Another great, useful and interesting mailbag and thanks for your guidance!

      I stopped worrying about articles being stolen long time back.

      Thanks for sharing!

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      Eric Dierker 

      14 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Another good one. This series really Reminds me of walking a mile or so with dad the grocery store to buy the newspaper. A ritual to read and gain knowledge

      Alright I am sure you addressed this before but go through the comma the semi-colon and the colon. Pretty please.

      (the stuff I get through Google are a bunch esoteric show offs from Ivory towers";- }

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      14 months ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

      Hello Bill - We can only hope to write a book good enough to be stolen. Interesting Mailbag, again, this week.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Heidi, I love your comment and attitude about stolen work. I'm far too old to worry about this stuff. I could easily spend all my time prosecuting and none writing.

      Clear and chilly here, but lovely for sure.

      Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you my friend, and I wish you the same.

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      Heidi Thorne 

      14 months ago from Chicago Area

      Happy Monday!

      Re: Responsibility to Write. Because we're all so connected to the writing world, we think the real world is brimming with writers. Good reminder that we are a limited lot.

      Re: Stealing Work. I just can't worry about this stuff. If I saw someone blatantly republish one of my books under their own name, I might consider taking action. But as an attorney friend asked me many years ago, what would it cost to bring them to justice? Chances are it could be very high in terms of legal fees, stress, time, etc. And you'll likely need to prove damages. Each case is different. So weigh the pros and cons of taking action.

      Re: Public Photos. I love this simple explanation!

      The trees are just beautiful here in Chicago. Have a great week!

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      14 months ago from london

      Fire and heat..

      I join Bev on that one. Lol. Winter can be ... well, she is also God's child, so let me not say.

      Another great mailbag with clarity and wisdom as expected in your answers. Have a great evening!

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you, Marion, and I find you to be very encouraging, so we'll even. :)

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Kari! There are always differing opinions on the photo topic....I personally think it is a non-issue.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Indeed you do, Pop! LOL Thanks for stopping by and making nothing for it. :)

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Linda, I think you'll find, over time, food articles will pay. It takes quite a bit of time to get established on Google. Be patient. Your articles may still pay out.

      And thank you!

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      Marion Drury 

      14 months ago from Sydney, Australia

      Thanks again for the helpful and practical information. Have often taken some great photos in public places but haven't felt free to use them in articles, so this is very releasing to know.

      Also, love what you had to say about using our talent to write. Very encouraging.

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      Kari Poulsen 

      14 months ago from Ohio

      As always, and excellent article. I, too, have often wondered about the public photo thing. Knowing this, I will probably take more photos. I don't really think of writing as a responsibility, more like a passion. Read ya later. :)

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      14 months ago

      I need to sit by a crackling fire and stop thinking about all the money I am not making on HP!

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      Linda Lum 

      14 months ago from Washington State, USA

      Bill, I agree that on a frozen morning such as this, flames in the stove or fireplace are a feast for the senses--not just the warmth, but the sight, sound, and aroma.

      I too enjoyed Eric's question and your thoughtful response.

      As for plagiarism, a few years ago I found that almost everything I had written on HP had been stolen word for word, and all of the photos, and republished in Spanish. I contacted the host for the website and ultimately the entire blog was taken down.

      I'm surprised to hear that anyone gains enough traffic on HP to receive a monthly payout. I guess food topics aren't sexy enough to get that many page views.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Venkatachari M, thanks so much for the question. I'm happy you found value in the answer, and you made me smile with your comment. Regarding editing yes, we always find new things when editing. I'm afraid perfection is unattainable. :)

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Anusha, thanks so much for your thoughts on the matter. I appreciate such a well-presented argument against freedom of photography. :)

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      And I'm always glad you did, Larry! Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      That is an advantage to the time change for sure, Melissa. I can't get used to it getting dark so darned early. My chickens were in the coop sleeping at 4:30 yesterday. LOL

      Thanks for stopping by and Happy Monday to you.

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      Venkatachari M 

      14 months ago from Hyderabad, India

      Thanks, Bill, for taking time to answer my question elaborately. I am not worried simply because that somebody steals. I worry as my style of writing may be inferior to the work produced by the stealer. It might be a funny thing! And, you can smile at my worry.

      The question from Eric is a noble question. I agree with him and you that we, writers, should always spread awareness among people with an obligation to our own conscience.

      That editing of books query from Robert is also a good question. That is what I am doing presently. I am editing my book on "Economics" completely as it got no buyer in a whole year at Amazon Kindle (with some hope that it may sell one or two copies this time). The editing is a very lengthy process and you find new things whenever you edit something.

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      Anusha Jain 

      14 months ago from Delhi, India

      This mailbag proved to be somewhat thought-provoking to me. I kinda don't agree with you when it comes to shooting people in public. I did my own research and it turns out that while in my country also, there is not a specific law to prevent people from being photographed without their knowledge, consent or permission, there have been multiple incidences where people, especially women, slapped eve-teasing cases against the photographers.

      And there are laws in some states for minors. In the state of Florida, as per my search, there are laws which will prevent anyone except parents to photograph kids.

      On websites like Pixabay also, model releases are compulsory if the model in the picture is recognizable. Only celebrities are denied this right, which entails that, if journalists take their pictures, that would not require a model release. And yet, generally reporters ask for permission, and celebrities pose for them.

      I personally feel that even if there are no laws, we should respect our fellow humans' right to know that they are being photographed, and let them either accept or deny the shot.

      In reality, in my humble opinion, the intent is important. If decent people, like say, deep thinking authors would even say that it's okay to click pictures without permission and use them, since there are no laws against it, think about the freedom from any moral obligation that would be felt. And the more people do it, the more common it seems, the more difficult it would become to detect and stop creepy advances from perverts.

      Nah, I did rather ask.:)

      Maybe you could consider as an extension to your own perspective?

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      Larry Rankin 

      14 months ago from Oklahoma

      Always glad to read the Mailbag:-)

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      Melissa Propp 

      14 months ago from Minnesota

      Happy Monday Bill! Now that daylight savings time has ended, I finally get to take my dog for a walk in the morning and be able to see...but it gets dark here at like 5 p.m., days are way too short....I didn't realize we have so few rights when it comes to a public photo, so thanks for explaining that.

      Have a great and productive week!

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I totally agree, Bill, and hopefully we are leaving behind a lasting legacy of wondrous words.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Oh my goodness, Ann, you outdid yourself with that send-off. I simply can't match your M madness today. But it gives me a goal to shoot for. Enjoy the festivities, my friend.


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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks for the suggestions, Kristen. I don't worry about my work being stolen. It is a possibility for sure, but life is too short to worry about such things.

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      William Kovacic 

      14 months ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

      I love Eric's question, and I love your answer. We absolutely have a responsibility to others, but I think the main responsibility is to ourselves. We only live once. We may as well make it count. And then again, what are we leaving behind? Thanks for another great mailbag!

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      Ann Carr 

      14 months ago from SW England

      We certainly do have a responsibility, bill! And I think it's great fun and a great privilege.

      We have carnival night here in Burnham tonight - a follow on from the one in Bridgwater which I've written about before. It goes to various venues throughout the week and since I've moved this is now my local one! We're having a big hotpot before we leave, mince pies to come back to, and a great experience of sights and sounds to enjoy whilst we try to keep warm! I love it! And last night we had fizzing, feisty fireworks.

      A multi-coloured medley of musical mayhem to you on this madcap Monday, bill!


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      Kristen Howe 

      14 months ago from Northeast Ohio

      Bill, another great mailbag of resourceful info and knowledge from you. As for Venka's question, none of my betas or CPs had stolen my work, not even from my online crit list at IWW either. So I don't think it should be a concern to him either. As for Alyssa, I would recommend Upwork to her if she's interested. I haven't yet made payout at HP in three years, and hope to reach that milestone next year.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Yes it has, Swalia, and that is a very promising sigh. Thank you for pointing that out.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      LOL...Flourish, that was funny! Check that zipper and have a great day.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Aww, that was sweet, McKenna! Thank you for those lovely words.

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      Shaloo Walia 

      14 months ago from India

      You are right about content sites. HP has been around for years unlike the rest which vanish within a few months.

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      14 months ago from USA

      I was standing in a restaurant waiting to be seated and I swear there was someone taking photos of me. Maybe I looked funny or had my zipper undone. Not sure but it’s a strange feeling.

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      McKenna Meyers 

      14 months ago from Bend, OR

      This really made my day, Bill. I've been reading a lot recently about the benefits of gratitude and this mailbag is filled with that spirit. It's the fire in the morning and the blank page to fill and the gentle rain falling that we need to celebrate. Now I'm off to write down 5 things I'm thankful for in my gratitude journal. One of them will be reading this!

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      It did indeed, Sally! Thank you for spending part of your Monday with me. Have a superb week!

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      Sally Gulbrandsen 

      14 months ago from Norfolk

      Nothing nicer to wake up in the morning and find that the hearth is already burning. I can tell that it warmed the cockles of your heart:) Have a great week Billy.

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      You and me both, Nell...naive that is. Now we certainly no better, don't we? LOL

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      Bill Holland 

      14 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I believe that, Janine, and I know you do as well. Thank you for always being here.

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      Nell Rose 

      14 months ago from England

      Hi Bill, for some reason I always thought that you could take a photo of someone from the back of them but not the front? not sure where I read that, but now I know different that's great! As for plagiarizing, I remember the first time I found a hub of mine on someone else's page, I was so shocked! talk about naive! lol! great advice as always, have a great day!

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      Janine Huldie 

      14 months ago from New York, New York

      Bill, I love your advice, especially as writers we owe it to our readers and more to keep on writing. That said thanks for that and more here today. Happy Monday and wishing you a great week ahead now!! :)


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