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The Writer's Mailbag: Installment 181

Updated on December 18, 2017

Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas or Whatever

So here’s the thing: it makes no difference to me what you believe is the proper way to describe this season. If you want to say Merry Christmas then go for it. Happy Holidays works for me as well. You aren’t going to insult me by using either, or neither, or some other greeting which reflects your feelings about this season. It’s your gig and I’m happy for you. All I want to say to all of you is I love you! Good luck finding something controversial in that statement: I love you!

Let’s do this and then get back to our regularly-scheduled life.

Welcome back to the Mail Room!
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Ego Protection

From Eric: “I was stymied on how to show who was speaking. My son helped me out, insisting that I review Frost and Edgars works. I settled on a book by bestselling authors which was a bestseller itself. I followed that format to the T. Then our publisher editor here on HP decided that their style was better and changed my article. So instead of calling people pinheads I just surrendered, what the heck. So Bill how do you deal with the egos of others? Do you have a way to protect your muse in such circumstances?”

Eric, I love your questions!

I would love to say I’m above all that ego crap, but I don’t think anyone is. Artists, sculptures, writers, musicians . . . these are people who spend hours, days, and months working on their craft, a painting, a novel, a symphony, whatever . . . and then they release that to the public and are met, at times, with not-so-flattering reviews. It is damned hard to ignore it. I can receive one-hundred flattering book reviews and one negative review, and it is that one negative review I will fixate on.

What can I tell you? I’m human and I want acceptance just as badly as most people. On most days I’m able to set aside the negativity which surrounds my work, but I’m not always successful.

Holding the Reader’s Attention

From Linda: “Bill, this has probably be asked (and answered) in the past, but I might have been absent from class the day this was covered. I know that the first paragraph of any story needs to grab the attention of the reader. If you don't have them by the end of the first page, you've lost them for good. But how, when, and how often do you hit them again? At the end of each chapter (so that they will want to continue) or does too much drama put you at risk of being a "perils of Pauline". How do you keep your reader once you've "caught" them?”

It’s a great question, Linda, and I don’t believe it has ever been asked before.

A full-length novel, which I believe you are asking about, has to be fed fuel to keep the engine running. That fuel is sometimes called tension, and escalation of that tension must be ever-present. Let me put it another way: three or four times in a novel, there must be something which happens which will directly affect the outcome and which drives the engine forward. If your novel is 75,000 words in length, you need one of those fuel-ingestion moments every 15,000-20,000 words.

Of course, I’m using generalities and averages, but I think you get the point.

A common error many first-time novelists make is adding something to the narrative which does not add to the tension. Always keep in mind, as you write, the central theme of the novel and the driving tension. Is a particular page necessary? How does it help to propel the story? If it doesn’t help then it really isn’t necessary. Mind you, I know a certain amount of non-tension stuff is necessary. We need to have some sort of character description along the way, but just remember the story is of the utmost importance.

Very short attention spans
Very short attention spans | Source

Formatting Poetry

From Verlie: Re: Formatting shaped poetry in the text capsule. There's a discussion going on about this in the Forums. I’ve included it below. May be of interest to Mailbag readers?


TITIA WROTE:

It's not possible to use centered text in hubs, but when you write different forms of poetry sometimes centered text is a must. Shaped poetry, cinquain, diamante and more are poetry forms that will lose any significance if they can not be written in centered text.

The only way to show them now is displaying them as a photo, but that way Google won't recognize it as text and HP shows zero word count.

Verlie Burroughs Reply: I'm so excited to have discovered this. The preformatted option in the drop down list in the text capsule allows for cut and paste of whatever you have previously created in word program. I just tried it. It worked.

Edit: And the pasted text shows up in word count. smile

Edit: that was supposed to be copy and paste.

Edit: This may not work for a shaped poem, at least it didn't for me. Back to the drawing board.

So, it shows up when pasted into text capsule aligned left, but you can 1. push the lines into shape manually, 2. highlight, 3. choose preformatting option in the drop down list. You can toggle back and forth until it looks right in preview. Still a lot of work. There's probably an easier way to do it.


There are a few ideas on how to center text kicking around on the thread. Hope more to come. Please note, it is not my thread. Thanks V.

Note from Bill: It’s an interesting problem, one I’ve noticed even though I don’t write poetry. Several times in prose I’ve tried to center items for effect and found I couldn’t do it. Anyway, thank you, Verlie, for pointing this out. If anyone else has something to add to this please do. I’d love to hear a solution to this problem.

Hubber Score

From Val: “Bill, do you understand the Hubber score? Mine jumped, overnight, from 80 to 92, and I don’t have any idea why that happened.”

Val, here’s my trademark honesty: I don’t have a clue what goes into a Hubber score . . . and . . . frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn! I’ve always wanted to use that line from “Gone With The Wind,” so now I can mark that off my bucket list.

I honestly don’t know. I’ve been here almost seven years now and I’ve never understood it. I’ll go to my death bed not understanding it.

Such is life!

Here is what HubPages says about the Hubber Score:

Factors Used to Compute Hubber Score

Factors used to compute Hubber Score include:

  • The collective HubScores of your Hubs
  • Your activity in the Forums
  • Your support of other Hubbers through comments
  • The number and quality of Questions you ask
  • The number and quality of Answers you have given

In general, your Hubber Score is meant to not only reflect the collective quality and success of your Hubs, but also the contributions you have made to the community as a whole.

Now you know as much as I do. Clear as mud?

The only score that matters is the one I give myself and my work, because I'm the toughest grader out there.
The only score that matters is the one I give myself and my work, because I'm the toughest grader out there. | Source

And Such Is the Mailbag

I wouldn’t know what to do with my Mondays if I didn’t have the Mailbag, so thank you. I hear Christmas is next Monday, but nothing stops the mail from being delivered, so next Monday, Christmas, I’m going to stop by your home, briefly, and deliver the mail just like I always do. If you want to have some hot chocolate out, and maybe some chocolate chip cookies, I would greatly appreciate it.

Remember: I love you all!

2017 William D. Holland (aka billybuc)

“Helping writers to spread their wings and fly.”

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    • billybuc profile imageAUTHOR

      Bill Holland 

      5 months ago from Olympia, WA

      For sure, Zulma! I always loved that story.

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 

      5 months ago from United Kingdom

      It reminds of the story of six blind men trying to describe an elephant. Each one described a different part of the animal but it was only when you put them all together that you get a definitive description.

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      Bill Holland 

      5 months ago from Olympia, WA

      That is really a fascinating and brilliant approach to a novel, Lawrence. Thanks for sharing that with us. Makes my mind go into overdrive thinking about attempting that.

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      Lawrence Hebb 

      5 months ago from Hamilton, New Zealand

      Bill

      I don't think anyone on Hp really understands how the 'hubber' score really works, mine even changes when I haven't done anything on HP!

      I agree with what you say about the story though, the best novels are those that have things going on besides the main plot, kind of 'twists' in the tale, and you can have real fun with them.

      I remember reading one book, by a storyteller from Morocco that had each chapter being told by a different character, yet they were all relating the same incident, just from different angles, and it was a fascinating read as you slowly found out what each one's motivation was, and how they saw their world.

      Only at the end of the book could you actually piece together what had really happened, and it was a real surprise, cos everyone saw the incident differently and the storyteller was trying to put things together like a detective does.

      One trick I learned from that book was you can liven a story up by taking a slightly different perspective for the reader, you just show that it's a different person telling that part of the story.

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      LOL...good point, Dora! Good point indeed!

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Frank! Might as well laugh about it, right?

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      Dora Weithers 

      7 months ago from The Caribbean

      I relate to your answer to the first question about that one negative review. However, about our editors here on HP, I encourage us not to get hemmed in by their edits. They don't even follow the same rules.

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      Frank Atanacio 

      7 months ago from Shelton

      I like the honesty you convey with the hubber score and your quick wit.. love the mailbags..

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you John, and Merry Christmas to you and your family.

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Merry Christmas, Shannon! I don't visit the forums or the Q&A, so I won't be missed at all and it won't affect me....and yes, people are rude there.

      Ho Ho Ho

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Chitrangada Sharan! May you always find peace and happiness.

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      Gypsy Rose Lee 

      7 months ago from Riga, Latvia

      A great mailbag just before the holidays. Hope you and yours have the best and brightest of holidays full of love.

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      John Hansen 

      7 months ago from Queensland Australia

      Apparently everyone's hubber score jumped recently....mine even went up to 90 or 91. Interesting to read about that poetry formatting thread. I have always found it inconvenient to be unable to centre poetry. I found this helpful Bill. Merry Christmas.

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      Shannon Henry 

      7 months ago from Texas

      And here I thought my daddy was Santa, but then you come along asking for cookies and one better than milk. . .and with deliveries, too. I tell you, what is a girl to think?

      Merry Christmas to you, too. Although, I saw a sweatshirt in a store that pretty much sums up my feelings about the holidays this year (not really, though it doesn't feel like Christmas this year at all and it is normally my favorite time of year).... It's a cat with a Santa hat that says, "Merry Christmas, your gift is in the litter pan."

      I wonder how the hubber score will be affected by the cancellation of Q & A. I decided to make more of an effort there for awhile, but I quickly found that people often treat others quite rudely in that particular feature, just like in the forums. Not everyone, of course, but it happens enough that I got tired of reading the negativity. Even from people I like. I don't suppose I will miss that feature much. However, I don't expect my score to improve mich either since I rarely use the forums.

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      Chitrangada Sharan 

      7 months ago from New Delhi, India

      Thanks for another interesting mailbag!

      Important discussion about holding the reader’s attention.

      Happy holidays and Merry Christmas to you and your family!

      Thank You!

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks again, Verlie! I had a feeling you might be back after Heidi's comment. :)

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Linda, and Merry Christmas to you as well.

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Shyron! I love your take on the HP score. You had me laughing and cringing at the same time. What if it is completely subjective, depending on the whim of the HP editors? Yuck!

      Merry Christmas, Shyron!

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you, Heidi, as always, for your input. The poetry question is an interesting one. Whether or not it needs to happen to me isn't the question; to me the question is why can't it be done. It seems like such a simple formatting procedure...but then what do I know?

      Yes, there will be a Christmas edition.

      Merry Christmas my friend.

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I can feel it, Verlie! Thank you for joining it. I hope there is a solution soon to that poetry problem. Makes no sense to me that there isn't one.

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks for the insight, MizB! I am just a simple writer. Things like algorithms are beyond me and always will be. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and hope for the best.

      Merry Christmas, MizB!

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Michael my friend. May the spirit of the holidays always be with you.

      Love and peace always

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Bill! I can't imagine driving along and have a train drop down in front of you. What a freaky thing that must have been.

      Merry Christmas to you and yours!

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Merry Christmas to you, Mary, and thank you for your friendship. Shake off that rejected article, my friend.

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Good point, Kari! LOL I for one am grateful.

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      He's a reliable old cuss, Clive! LOL Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you for the ranting, Manatita! Enjoyable and insightful as always, my friend.

      Peace be with you!

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      Verlie Burroughs 

      7 months ago from Canada

      Evening Heidi Thorne re: "the issue of "what is a poem?"

      Two poems by William Carlos Williams (1883 - 1963)

      The Red Wheelbarrow

      so much depends

      upon

      a red wheel

      barrow

      glazed with rain

      water

      beside the white

      chickens.

      Poem

      As the cat

      climbed over

      the top of

      the jamcloset

      first the right

      forefoot

      carefully

      then the hind

      stepped down

      into the pit of

      the empty

      flowerpot

      "the rhythmic flow of the words is carefully fashioned into original forms. Cleanliness, both of perception and of artistic design, is the main feature of his poetry. To elevate the fleeting moment, even the most commonplace, and to give it permanence, is his object." Louis Dudek, Poetry of Our Time.

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      Linda Crampton 

      7 months ago from British Columbia, Canada

      I'm always surprised by how quickly Christmas arrives once December starts. I hope you and your family have a very enjoyable Christmas celebration, Bill.

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      William Leverne Smith 

      7 months ago from Hollister, MO

      Your answer to Eric reminded me you might be a budding politician, but, the real Bill returned to answer Val. What a relief! Also, so happy the train missed you. Sad situation.

      Happy Holidays!! ;-)

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      7 months ago from Texas

      Bill, I also made it to the Mail Bag on Monday with a little over an hour to spare.

      This is a great one, I love it.

      The Hubber score I disagree with, I think it depends on what moderator is reading something we have written. My score dropped from 85 to 70 after I published my last hub. I think some of the HP moderators would like to get rid of writers the feel are inferior to themselves.

      Verlie's centering explanation is great and I will be back to re-read this many times.

      Blessings and Merry Christmas

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      Heidi Thorne 

      7 months ago from Chicago Area

      Hey, I made it to the Mailbag and it's still Monday!

      Re: Formatting Poetry. Formatting poetry is an absolute challenge here on HP or anywhere online unless you format it in a design program and save it as an image file.

      Here's my take on the whole formatting thing for poetry. In today's digital world, if the meaning of your poem cannot be understood without being perfectly formatted, you might want to rethink what you've written. Hard line breaks are about the only thing that can reliably render across devices and browsers. And even those look wonky at times.

      And then there's the issue of "what is a poem?" Some people just arbitrarily break up lines of text, thinking that it makes it a poem because that's what it looks like visually. Not!

      Punctuation is a valuable tool to indicate where ideas and pauses occur in poetry. I've reviewed some poetry where I had to suggest that punctuation be used to properly convey the ideas. Poets often want to get so cutesy and break all language conventions (e.g. no punctuation at all), justifying it in the name of "art." Sorry, poetry is communication.

      Poetry is also an "audio" art and meant to be read aloud. When does that formatting (line breaks, centering, etc.) occur when it's read aloud? Often, when you hear a good reading of a poem, then you look at the actual text, you'll realize that the line breaks are completely ignored for the sake of artfully conveying the ideas.

      In sum, I think poetry isn't about formatting. Sorry for the poetry rant!

      In case you don't do a Christmas Mailbag, I wish you a very Merry Christmas! Thanks for the gift of the Mailbag!

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      Verlie Burroughs 

      7 months ago from Canada

      Hi Bill, Thanks for including the shaped poem quandary query. I hope there's a technificent poet person out there who knows a way to do this. I know you can use the 'table' capsule to center text, but even with 'minimalist' setting the grid lines still show. Thanks for all your good work and good cheer. Can sure feel the love in the mail room :)

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      Doris James-MizBejabbers 

      7 months ago

      Bill, loved your answer on the hubber score. I don’t understand it either and gave up caring. May I step in and help out with the answer to Eric, pretty please? He asks about style and chalks it up to ego, but I think we can look farther. There are many styles of writing, and there are as many reasons for those differing styles. In my two careers I’ve had to learn at least five styles and actually use them. Most are so similar that only academia distinguishes and gives you a bad mark if you don’t use the proper one for the situation. Legal style is different in that it is based on the judicial system and one can’t be creative when using it. Old styles, like AP for newspaper, were based on the most economical use of space. Today, some of the styles are based on fitting your work into the computer program that the publisher is using.

      Now having said that, I have to agree that some of the changes the Hubtool makes to my hubs don’t make sense to me, but my scores and traffic have gone up after their use. So it tells me that something in their program knows how to attract more traffic to my work. Maybe more SEOs or maybe their style uses magic, who knows? Merry Christmas, my friend.

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      Michael-Milec 

      7 months ago

      It is so refreshing and encouraging to know of you prudent view of the next Monday as a day without interruption of normal life. By exercising free will expression regarding "Christmas" indicates elevated spirit above traditional box "you should keep it holy"... allowing us open proceed to pursue our best what we choose to do . On this note my friend, What ever you celebrate, have very merry/ blessed everyday.

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      Bill De Giulio 

      7 months ago from Massachusetts

      Hi Bill. When I heard the news this morning about the train derailment and where it happened I immediately thought of you. Glad you are safe and sound. As far as the Hubber Score I also have no clue. It is whatever it is. Have a great week.

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      Mary Wickison 

      7 months ago from Brazil

      Hi Bill,

      Re the ego question, on the content mill I write for I have had one article rejected and yet, that is the stat I notice not the 500+ accepted ones. I need to shake it off and move on.

      The hubber scores have been skyrocketing recently. I just take a screenshot when mine hits 100 and file it in a folder.

      FlourishAnyway is correct. The higher CPM rates will drop after the holidays, but heck, it is was nice while it lasted.

      Have a wonderful Christmas.

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      Kari Poulsen 

      7 months ago from Ohio

      Another great mailbag! Since the questions and answers are going away, that leaves us with 2 less things to understand about Hubber Scores, lol.

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      Clive Williams 

      7 months ago from Jamaica

      The mailman can right on time

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      manatita44 

      7 months ago from london

      Well, Bill, I love you too!

      I tell my friends that my The Spirit of Love at Christmas, is just that. I strive to show how people are happy or of good will, service and Love. I tell them that it's all about the Spirit or energy, even though I may mention Faith.

      I was discussing this very thing with a Jehovah's Witness today. I used a few examples, to show her that it was the joy and happiness; the inner thrill and music of Love that mattered. The sense of belonging. She appeared baffled, but seemed to reflect on this.

      I don't really get into recipe thing very much, as I don't cook too much. So tell Linda that it is her, that I care about, because she is so so darn decent. That's why I read her recipes. There are people here I like and do not read their stuff or rather, I do not comment.

      I'm careful with politics and I do not like stories with many parts. Still, I like those guys! So perhaps I'm saying that even with a great start, sometimes it helps if we like the person, or it's a topic that pulls our strings.

      Enough ranting. Another great mailbag.

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Aww, thanks, Zulma, and a very Merry Christmas to you and your family.

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 

      7 months ago from United Kingdom

      Another stellar mailbag, Bill.

      If I don't get the chance later, let me wish you and yours a joyful Christmas. :)

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Truthfully, Bill, neither do I. :) Thanks my friend.

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Most likely you are correct, Flourish! Such is the nature of this business. Merry Christmas to you as well.

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Kristen! Happy Holidays to you as well.

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      William Kovacic 

      7 months ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

      Some good questions this week, Bill. Enjoyed them all and the video. I wouldn't know what to do with my Mondays without the Mailbag!

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      FlourishAnyway 

      7 months ago from USA

      Since so many Hubber scores are 100 or 99 in December I assume traffic/impressions have a huge impact. It’s much about money. They will sink again in January. Merry Christmas!

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      Kristen Howe 

      7 months ago from Northeast Ohio

      Happy holidays Bill! Great mailbag as always!

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      LOL...Pop, I understand completely. At this rate I'll be a best-selling author after I die.

      Merry Christmas my rabble-rousing friend!

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you so much, Nikki,and Merry Christmas to you and yours. I love Mondays, being able to spend time with my writing friends. It's like we are sitting around a table having a cup of coffee and visiting.

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Eric! I'm just giving back that which was freely given to me. That's how it's supposed to work, right?

      Merry Christmas my friend!

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Mary and Merry Christmas to you as well.

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Melissa! I hope you and that family of yours have a wonderful Christmas!

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Ann! I wish I could take the bulk of the credit for the Mailbag success, but you readers do most of the work. Merry Christmas dear friend.

      bill

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Linda, I know I haven't changed what I do, so it has to be the algorithm. And a very Merry Christmas to you and your wonderful family.

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I dunno either, Bill, but for those concerned with those numbers, I'm happy for them. Thank you and a very Merry Christmas to you and yours.

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      breakfastpop 

      7 months ago

      I have a better one. I went on vacation for two weeks and my score went to a 90! I do better, apparently, when I don't write. Merry Christmas!

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      Nikki Khan 

      7 months ago from London

      I wish you and your family a very prosperous Merry Christmas Bill.Have a great family time or enjoy your holidays.

      I love this mailbag episode,,many questions are answered without even asking.

      As with hub score,,I had same question too which is now been answered very well.

      Thanks for making our Monday’s so special with such an outstanding writer’s mailbag.

      Many Blessings.

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      Eric Dierker 

      7 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Feliz navidad prospero año y felicidad or something along those lines.

      I can't believe it. 182 will be a Christmas present.

      Once again you have inspired. And that is a mighty fine gift to all of us. Thanks.

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      Mary Norton 

      7 months ago from Ontario, Canada

      I like the way you treat Christmas...yes, the greeting “I love you” fits well as that really is the message. Have a great one with your family.

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      Melissa Propp 

      7 months ago from Minnesota

      Happy Monday Bill! And Merry Christmas!

      As you have mentioned before, holidays can be a struggle for a lot of people, so my Christmas wish is that everyone is able to find some peace and joy in this season.

      And as always, I hope you have a productive week!

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      Ann Carr 

      7 months ago from SW England

      Still original questions keep coming! Amazing.

      Well done, bill, on all your superb answers.

      Happy Christmas to you and yours!

      Ann

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      Linda Lum 

      7 months ago from Washington State, USA

      Bill, thank you for answering my question. I think I've got this. As for the HP score? Mine went up as well, and has stayed there, so I can only assume that the algorithm has changed. I haven't done anything different.

      If I have time this week I might play around a bit with the formatted text issue.

      Thanks for another great mailbag, and Merry Christmas my dear friend, to you and Bev.

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      Tim Mitchell 

      7 months ago from Escondido, CA

      Great mailbag Bill! Wishing you and family a very Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, or a Season full of Smiles. BTW . . . there are others in the forums that Hubber Score went up. So, it sounds like HP changed their algorithm. Maybe because the Q&A is going away. I dun'no . . .

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      Bill Holland 

      7 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you, Janine, and Merry Christmas to you and that lovely family of yours.

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      Janine Huldie 

      7 months ago from New York, New York

      Bill, I am going to wish you a great week ahead and later this week will wish you a Merry Christmas. I most likely won't be online on Christmas Day to read blogs and more to be honest. But I will try to stop in to catch up on your mailbag probably after Christmas for sure next week. But still wishing you a wonderful week this upcoming week now!! :)

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