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Beth37posted 10 years ago
I feel like we, a writers site, would be remiss not to mention that this day, in 1963, CS Lewis, the amazing British author, went on to be with his Maker.

He is one of my all time favorite authors, and I would guess many feel the same. Responsible for legendary children's literature, fiction and amazing spiritual commentary. He is incredibly quotable. I thought we could post our favorite Lewis quotes? They need not be religious quotes, this is just one of my favorite.

"I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."
C. S. Lewis
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  savvydatingposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  "Talk to me about the truth of religion and I'll listen gladly. Talk to me about the duty of religion and I'll listen submissively. But don't come talking to me about the consolations of religion or I shall suspect that you don't understand."
  - C.S. Lewis, A Grief Observed
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SongofTheSaintsposted 10 years ago
"If we find ourselves with a desire that nothing in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that we were made for another world."
C. S. Lewis
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  That was the one I was trying to find and couldn't. It's my favorite... thank you!
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Beth37posted 10 years ago
You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream.
C. S. Lewis
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SongofTheSaintsposted 10 years ago
Mine too! You are welcome.
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Beth37posted 10 years ago
Friendship is unnecessary, like philosophy, like art... It has no survival value; rather it is one of those things that give value to survival.
C. S. Lewis
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Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years ago
"The sins of the flesh are bad, but they are the least bad of all sins. All the worst pleasures are purely spiritual: the pleasure of putting other people in the wrong, of bossing and patronizing and spoiling sport, and back biting, the pleasure of power, of hatred. For there are two things inside me competing with the human self which I must try to overcome. They are the Animal self and the Diabolical self. The Diabolical self is the worse of the two. That is why a cold self righteous prig who goes to church regularly may be far nearer to hell than a prostitute. But of course, it is better to be neither. Pg.103 Mere Christianity. C.S. Lewis
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  That was beautiful, thank you Kathryn.
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Beth37posted 10 years ago
Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
C. S. Lewis
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Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years ago
"According to Christian teachers, the essential vice, the most evil, is pride. Unchastity, anger, greed, drunkenness and all that are mere fleabites in comparison: it was through pride that the devil became the devil: pride leads to every other vice: it is the complete anti-God state of mind."
He goes on to explain the nature of pride:
"Now what you want to get clear is that pride is essentially competitive--is competitive by its very nature-- while the other vices are, so to speak, by accident. Pride gets no pleasure out of having something, only out of having more of it than the next man. We say that people are proud of being rich or clever, or good looking, but they are not. They are proud of being richer or cleverer or better looking than others. If everyone became equally rich, or clever, or good-looking there would be nothing to be proud about. Its the comparison that makes you proud: the pleasure of being above the rest."
Pg. 122, Mere Christianity by C.S.Lewis
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  He was so wise, don't you think?
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  He was so wise, don't you think?
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Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years ago
Oh, very! Did you know that he was unanimously elected to the Chair of Medieval and Renaissance English at Cambridge University?
Thanks, Beth, for this post. (I like your new avatar.)

My brother just sent me Mere Christianity, published in 1952. I have been amazed reading it! I like his views on forgiveness:

"However much I might dislike my own cowardice or conceit or greed, I went on loving myself. There had never been the slightest difficulty about it. In fact the very reason I hated those things was that I loved the man. Just because I loved myself, I was sorry to find that I was the sort of man who did these things. Consequently, Christianity does not want to reduce by one atom the hatred we feel for cruelty and treachery. We ought to hate them. Not one word of what we have said about them needs to be unsaid. But it does want us to hate them in the same way in which we hate things in ourselves: being sorry that the man should have done such things, and hoping, if in anyway possible, that somehow, sometime, somewhere he can be cured and made human again." Pg. 117
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Have you read Screwtape Letters or Ode to Joy? That was about the passing of his wife... dealing with grief. We all grieve some kind of loss. Sometimes we push it down over and over till we think it's not there, but I spose it always is until we allow ourselves to feel it. My husband says feeling it can bring us closer to God, but stuffing it down just hurts us in the long run.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  No, but I will check them out. Thank you. A far as feelings being stuffed… I think to stay in touch with your true self and God, you have to stay in touch with what you are feeling.
  I really recommend this book, Mere Christianity! In it, he said he used to be an atheist, but had become a Christian at some point.
  ... on page 25:
  "All I have got to is a Something which is directing the universe and which appears in me as a law urging me to do what is right and making me feel uncomfortable when I do wrong. I think we have to assume it is more like a mind than it is like anything else we know--because after all the only other thing we know is matter and you can hardly imagine a bit of matter giving instructions."
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  It's a great book. Ive started it twice but didn't finish it. I had little ones at the time and I found the book took more concentration than I was afforded at the time. Ive been meaning to finish it. Thank you!
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  ...after being exposed to all the atheists around here, it might make more sense to you now and provide some ammunition, as well! (I don't bother anymore, though... much happier not arguing with atheists.)
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I don't wanna shoot em, I wanna speak truth in a civil manner. lol
  Im pretty flawed though. What I need to be reading is my Bible. It has the power to change a heart... sharper than any two edged sword.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Well, I have been reading the first book in the New Testament and am really amazed that here was a man who came to earth to bring us love from the realm of heaven and his own disciple blew it so bad. Reading about Jesus anticipating the consequence of being betrayed, really makes you cry. (And yet he knew he had to go through, what he would have to go through!)
  Strange also: The authors stress that his father was from the lineage of David, even though he did not provide the genetic material.
  ( It would be nice to start a thread to discuss Jesus' life and ministry without the naysayers. I guess I could go to another site, but once I light upon an a great site I tend to stay exclusively. Do you recommend other sites that one could go to, to just talk about Jesus?)
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Ive been to a few. Its very hard to find any that trolls wont show up at, but there are some that are very well moderated... maybe what you need is a bible study with some sweet women?
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, you are right. Thanks. Real time, real people, about reality. What a novel idea!
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Real life... just do it. lol
  Night Kathyn
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Beth37posted 10 years ago
I bought some melatonin... I thought maybe I should sleep more than 5 hours a night. It seems to be kicking in... either that or Im tired, if that's true, i probably shouldn't have wasted money on the melatonin. See you tomorrow... good talk.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  - melatonin helps your body get into a sleep cycle. Once you're back in sync stop taking it. Your own body produces melatonin. Have faith in that. Remind yourself of that. The body can get addicted to anything given from without. Let it be produced from within by eating good. Vegetables are the key, greener the better: Kale, broccoli, spinach, brussels sprouts, lettuce, parsley, cilantro, blue green algae, wheat grass juice, etc. Also, do not take tylenol. Very bad for the maintenance of the myelin sheath in the brain, according to John Grey.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I don't take tylenol so Ive got that going for me. Thanks for all the info!
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Beth37posted 10 years ago
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  savvydatingposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  That is awesome!!!!!
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Beth37posted 10 years ago
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  savvydatingposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  More awesomeness!
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Beth37posted 10 years ago
Oh wow, I love this one, I'd never heard it.

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  Silverspeederposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair.
  
  C. S. Lewis
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  savvydatingposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Excellent point, Beth 37.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Do you think he was like this in real life? Do you think he just walked around being witty and ridiculously wise at all times? Maybe he belched whilst at the pub.
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  savvydatingposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Beth37, I believe that he was highly intelligent and highly intuitive... that is not to say he was always witty, though he may have been. My understanding is that he and his wife were a great match because she challenged him and they loved their "banter." I'd have to read more about his life from the perspective of observers, so I don't really know. Nevertheless, his observations were obviously very keen. That being said, when he wife died he questioned all of his beliefs about God. So to answer your question, Yes, he belched, at least figuratively. We all do in one way or another. Good question, Beth.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I spose that's true. His mother dying when he was a boy, his wife and best friend dying... He probably carried a lot of grief around in his heart... which was probably what prompted him to write a book about it. I don't know if you saw Shadowlands? It was a fabulous movie, especially if you were a fan of his.
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  savvydatingposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I haven't seen the movie, but I'll look into it--thanks, Beth37. Speaking of grief, Jesus was a man of sorrows. My point is that sometimes deep sorrow or grief creates a more formidable personality, as in one who has the opportunity to reach a much greater depth of spirit. If you read stories of the underground Christians, you will find this to be true. That is not to say Lewis had necessarily achieved that level as he did not suffer for his faith as underground Christians have done--at least, not to my knowledge.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I read a book about an underground Christian in China.
  It was an amazing book.
  http://www.amazon.com/The-Heavenly-Man- … 082546207X
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  savvydatingposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I wasn't aware of that book and I WILL read it! This brings to mind Saeed Abedini, an Iranian-born U.S. citizen who converted to Christianity from Islam. He is currently jailed in Iran and has recently been moved to an even worse prison than before. He shares a 10X10 cell with five violent prisoners, who are on death row.. He is only 33, and will likely die a brutal death. But through all this, he has not abandoned his faith, as the U.S. seems to have abandoned him. My heart goes out to his family. I cannot begin to imagine his and their torment.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Yet this is a very common story. Heartbreaking.
  Have you heard of VOM?
  https://www.persecution.com
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  savvydatingposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I was just thinking that for all my whining, I haven't lifted a finger to help. Thank you for the website. I needed it and I'll share it.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  CS Lewis: still doing good even after his death.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Wow, a website and organization devoted to people who claim they are being persecuted because they aren't free to go around telling others they will burn in hell for eternity if they don't accept Christ.
  
  "To encourage and empower Christians to fulfill the Great Commission in areas of the world where they are persecuted for sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ.
  
  To equip persecuted Christians to love and win to Christ those who are opposed to the gospel in their part of the world.
  
  To promote the fellowship of all believers by informing the world of the faith and courage of persecuted Christians, thereby inspiring believers to a deeper level of commitment to Christ and involvement in His Great Commission."
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, Im not gonna discuss these ppl with you. They deserve far better than to be maligned in a silly forum. Their lives are at stake, they are imprisoned, separated from their families, beaten and starved all for the sake of love. Reveal your own heart as you like. They are revealing theirs.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  They should mind their own business then and stop trying to spread the gospel where it's not wanted. That sounds like a real simple solution to the problem.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  They are not free to worship. You would support them being imprisoned for worshiping?
  What if they do share their faith? You would support them being tortured for speaking?
  If they shared a love for vegetarianism, would you feel the same?
  What if they believed that saving the environment was vital and they shared that belief with anyone who would listen? Should they be taken from their children?
  They force no one to listen. At the very least they are standing up for the freedom of speech in a place where government control is oppressive.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Allow me to once again post three of their mission statement purposes, which you might have missed the first time round.
  
  "To encourage and empower Christians to fulfill the Great Commission in areas of the world where they are persecuted for sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ.
  
  To equip persecuted Christians to love and win to Christ those who are opposed to the gospel in their part of the world.
  
  To promote the fellowship of all believers by informing the world of the faith and courage of persecuted Christians, thereby inspiring believers to a deeper level of commitment to Christ and involvement in His Great Commission."
  
  Again, they can mind their own business and stop spreading the gospel where they are not wanted. The solution is simple.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  If only we could wipe the world clean of everyone who doesn't believe what you believe. If only we could beat and starve them until, covered in lice and sores, they could slowly die without ever seeing their families again. What am I saying? Your desire is being carried out presently... humanity be damned.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I've read some of the Media links and have found that evangelists are going to extremes by breaking the laws of what they consider "Restricted Nations", they are bringing it upon themselves in their zealotry to spread the gospel.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, to worship or speak freely... to meet with fellow believers, they surely must break laws.
  I spose they were justified imprisoning Rosa Parks?
  Laws that oppress were meant to be challenged and overturned.
  If you are so supportive, would you swing the club that breaks their bones?
  What are you unwilling to do that you support others doing in order to quiet them?
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  It is not for you or that organization to decide what laws are oppressive and what are not, nor is your prerogative or theirs to decide to break those laws and not deal with the consequences.
  
  Again, the solution is quite simple, the evangelists should go home, stop spreading the gospel and stop breaking laws.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  They can worship in the comfort of their homes, they don't need to meet with anyone to do that. And, if they break laws, they will suffer the consequences.
  
  There would be no need of any of this if evangelists would just stop what they're doing, they are causing the problems, no one else.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  So let me get this straight. They are not allowed to freedom to worship with other believers? And you're ok with that?
  As I recall from reading the book, The Heavenly Man, the Chinese government will allow churches to meet if they are "registered." That means that they may teach what has been approved by their government. They are not allowed to teach the Bible in full.
  So if schools were only allowed to teach astronomy and mathematics and not evolution, and arrested and tortured ppl for trying to discuss it with others, would that bother you or would you be ok with that?
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Not if means breaking the law in other countries. Are you saying people really must travel to another country and break laws just to worship their god?
  
  They teach math and astronomy and evolution in high school, but they don't teach them in full, so why should they teach the Bible in full?
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Im afraid you have misunderstood the point of VOM. Theses are mostly natives of their own lands being arrested and tormented for worshiping or discussing their faith openly. So I will ask my question again. When you say you support their local law enforcement for beating and imprisoning them for such acts, what would you be willing and unwilling to do to stop them?
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Not at all, I read their mission statements and even posted a few of them here. It is quite easy to see what their agenda is and how they are going about it.
  
  Not according to the mission statements I posted earlier, perhaps you missed them yet again? Shall I re-post them a third time for your perusal?
  
  And, I will repeat my answer, if evangelists are going to other countries and breaking their laws in order to spread the gospel, they will and should endure the consequences. They bring it on themselves and no one is to blame but them.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  http://www.prisoneralert.com/
  Which one of these men look as if they do not belong with their corresponding place of imprisonment?
  You did not answer what you would be willing or unwilling to do to stop these ppl from assembling and speaking freely.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I cannot comment on a website that has an agenda towards going to other countries and breaking their laws in order to spread the gospel.
  
  There isn't anything I can do for people who break the laws of their country or another.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  YOU have read their statements wrong. They offer support to ppl who speak the msg. of Christ in their own countries and communities.
  
  And I did not ask what you would do *for them, I asked what you would do *to them.
  You are their adversary as much as the ppl who have broken their bones and taken their lives.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  No, I didn't, but perhaps you didn't read them at all.
  
  Is that a fact? Thanks for the comparison.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Done.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  You didn't even come close to answering this one. You simply tried to dodge it, so I will be happy to let it go.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  On the contrary, I qualified the flaw in your question so it wasn't comparing apples to oranges.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  It was a simple question. Would it bother you if evolution were not allowed to be discussed in school?
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  It is allowed to be discussed in school, but it isn't taught in full. There are indeed countries that don't teach or allow evolution to be discussed, and there is little anyone can do about it. Those particular countries are theocracies ruled by religious beliefs.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Which country is this?
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I can assume that you yourself would then break the laws of your own country just because you want to do something or you feel laws don't apply to you?
  
  Of course, there are laws people interpret to be oppressive of the things they want to do. But, we don't go breaking those laws just because we interpret them to be oppressive because we want to do something.
  
  There are laws made to protect us as well. If others felt those laws were oppressive to them and they went and broke those laws, how does that protect us?
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  There are laws meant to protect and laws intended to oppress.
  
  Should I speed? No.
  Should I make a black woman sit in the back of the bus? No.
  Should I murder a man? No.
  Should I own a slave? No.
  
  There are laws that are intended to do their best to destroy certain groups of ppl. If those ppl do not stand up for their rights, they will be squashed out forever.
  
  When laws are made that squelch human rights, those laws must be challenged. They do not have the freedom of speech or the right to assemble. If their oppressors could capture their thoughts as well and choke out their very faith, they would do that too.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  That would be your personal interpretation.
  
  Then, you should have no problem listing those laws here for us to see.
  
  Okay, what laws are oppressing you and are squelching your human rights? Provide that information so we can see what it is that is oppressing you?
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  wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Should you evangelize, resulting in both the slow destruction of the government and in taking people from God, turning them to Satan and Hell? Probably not...
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  You don't seem to follow. Im using the example that in America, blacks were sent to the back of the bus, they were not allowed to use whites water fountains. They were at one point slaves. If someone (I used the ex. of Rosa Parks) did not challenge these laws, we would still have segregated schools and slaves. Those are the laws that oppressed ppl of color, but thank God men and women rose up and challenged the oppressors.
  
  Your quote:
  "what laws are oppressing you and are squelching your human rights? Provide that information so we can see what it is that is oppressing you?"
  
  I am talking about the laws that we have been discussing for half of this thread. The laws that keep ppl from assembling, from discussing their faith, and even from hearing the word in whole. These laws are not set against North Americans or Europeans, but in a large portion of Asia, these prehistoric laws are still oppressing basic human freedom. The caste system is still in place in many Asian countries. It's hard to believe this is possible.
  
  *I have to fold clothes. Bye
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  And, do you know why? Here is the reason:
  
  "In Plessy v. Ferguson, 163 U.S. 537 (1896), the United States Supreme Court held that racial segregation in railway cars was constitutional. "
  
  Segregation existed in the states that had the most ardent Christian population. It was actually Christian evangelism that caused much of the segregation in the first place, the very same evangelism you yourself are trying to defend. There are plenty of books and articles written about the history of America and slavery.
  
  God had nothing to do with it.
  
  Obviously then, you have nothing to complain about if you live in North America.
  
  But, whatever is happening over there is not affecting you, it is affecting them. It is not to say we can't do anything about changing the way they think and act, but you are now contradicting everything you say about me. You now want them to think and believe what you want them to think and believe, which is what you're accusing me of doing.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  So should I not care about things that are not directly affecting me?
  When atrocities occur in other countries, I shouldn't care or offer help?
  When tidal waves wipe out whole cities, I shouldn't give to the Red Cross?
  When children are captured and used as soldiers in Darfur, my church shouldn't have flown to the Sudan to offer relief help and support?
  Human beings are being tortured and imprisoned for worshiping and for speaking their faith. I *do care about this.
  
  This is not a personal attack, it is simply a fact: I don't like the way you think. It, to me, is heartless, cruel and ugly. It is self oriented and not others focused. I feel that talking to you is a waste of time. I would like to disengage if it's all the same to you.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  No one is saying that, but you can't just break laws in other countries.
  
  What atrocities?
  
  Apples and oranges.
  
  Apples and oranges.
  
  Then, the solution is to stop going to other countries and breaking their laws. That would show you cared.
  
  That's too bad.
  
  You are the one who thinks evangelism is more important than people getting hurt. That is what is heartless, cruel and ugly. I'm trying to offer solutions so people don't get hurt. That's called compassion. Look it up.
  
  Sure, because I actually care about people and you care about spreading the gospel, so I can understand why talking to me would be a waste of time.
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  Motown2Chitownposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  This isn't even remotely on topic for this thread, but I want to say this: a past where religion persecuted those who did not believe does not excuse a present where the tables have turned. No one-anywhere, ever, under any circumstances deserves to be tortured or imprisoned when they've committed no destructive or illegal acts-and even then, no one should be subject to the evil of another human being deliberately causing them pain. Violence, no matter the motivation, is not ever acceptable. Human beings are cruel and terrible to each other, and it's always, always wrong. The saddest part of it is that we are completely self serving. Amnesty International is against the torture and imprisonment of political dissidents, but there is no outcry against religious persecution. And like it or not, torture and imprisonment IS persecution, regardless of what we think of the reason for it.
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  savvydatingposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Dead, what is your response to Beth's last question? Which country?
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Is not the Vatican a theocracy? Do they teach evolution there?
  
  There's also Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia, to name a couple.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  The Vatican doesn't teach evolution?! lol
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Here is a synopsis of whether or not the Vatican meets the criteria for being a country. It does.
  
  http://geography.about.com/od/political … ountry.htm
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  You're right lo siento mi amigo.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  True, the Vatican is a Christian theocracy that does not teach evolution. You wanted an example and you got one.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
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Beth37posted 10 years ago
This is me not engaging.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Then, why did you ask me questions in your last post? Seems like another contradiction from you.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e96CpYsBl8
  
  People make a difference.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Isn't she in Uganda? This is a country in which religious atrocities abound. Can you be sympathetic to evangelism in Uganda?
  
  "Uganda is a country that is effectively a criminal theocracy. 80% of all the information broadcasted in Uganda’s media, both on air and in print, is religious. Even the secular media houses are required to make 75% of their broadcasting religious. Our people are being fed government-sponsored religion night and day to help distract them from their misery and poverty.
  
  Then we have the unfriendly bullying religionists, women and men, young and old, Islamists and Christians standing on every street corner of Kampala from morning to evening, shouting to passers-by to turn to their gods and loudly praying for a decaying city which they have branded the “city of God”.
  
  The president regularly and publicly opens the tax coffers for religious leaders and religions to spread his prestige while hospitals go unfunded and without supplies and many women die during childbirth."
  
  http://www.atheistalliance.org/news-a-a … and-uganda
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Disengaging.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  That's odd, here's a country overrun with serious problems, far more than a handful of people getting jail time for preaching the gospel and you aren't engaged.
  
  Based on your support for evangelism, I would suspect you would support the theocratic regime in Uganda and everything they're doing to spread the gospel?
  
  Why disengaged?
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I don't want to argue with you. I think the way you think is harmful, not just to religion, but to humanity. It seems to me that you lack humanity, as a matter of fact. Should I argue that point with you? It seems you have chosen the way your heart shall go... what else is there for me to say except, I don't want any part of it.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  But, you are engaging me, you put that link there with a comment. I provided some reality about Uganda, that their problems are based on religious evangelism, which you support. You don't want to say anything because you know you're wrong and are being a hypocrite.
  
  You are just projecting your own self onto me. Look in the mirror.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  You are ATM, I have little doubt. How many accounts do you have?
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Are you stalking me, do I need to report you?
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Go for it.
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Beth37posted 10 years ago
“I realised that C. S. Lewis was a superb apologist for Christianity, especially when he showed so splendidly that faith is not the same thing as being gullible, that Christianity, robust Christianity, is intellectually defensible, intellectually respectable. I enjoyed hugely The Screwtape Letters, penned by a consummate master of the psychology of temptation, and the wiles of the devil. This book made me a lifelong admirer of its author.”

—Desmond Tutu, Archbishop Emeritus of Cape Town
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EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years ago
"Lewis demonstrates a great deal of hostility and arrogance towards nonbelievers."

"In Mere Christianity, for example, we learn that atheists are like ostriches: they keep their heads in the sand in order to avoid facing facts that damage their position.

We are again assured that atheism is a form of wish-fulfillment and informed that in its "modern" forms it has "come down in the world" and now "dabbles in dirt" (SbJ, 226, 139). Finally, we discover that atheists are not committed inquirers, that they merely "play at" religion, and that their minds reel "in a whirl of contradictions" ~ Surprised by Joy

http://atheism.about.com/od/cslewisnarn … heists.htm
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  So, is your point that you disagree with him? I would assume you would. Those were his beliefs and if he were here, on this forum, Im sure he'd defend them.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Lewis is considered a joke when it comes to his beliefs, he has lost a lot of respect from a great deal of people, and goes on to be arrogant and hostile.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  You mean there are those who don't agree with his beliefs about God? Im surprised, I thought we all believed in God.
  
  He is one of the most respected authors of all time. I understand you don't agree with his spiritual points. No one said you had to. No one even said you had to like his fictional writings... you don't even have to post on this thread if you don't want to.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  It's his arrogance and hostility towards nonbelievers, especially when he claims to have been an atheist before.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  lol. The guy was amazing. He was fully human, full of mistakes just like you and me, but the unbelievable wisdom that poured forth from his pen were/are life changing... there's nothing you could say that would make me think of ill of him. Not sure what the point would be.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  He isn't arrogant or hostile towards believers, so you have nothing to think ill of him.
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  You should read God in the dock. You might actually really get into it.
  And he has a lot of things to say about all mankind, not just Atheists.
  I remember one statement he made in one of his books about women with thick ankles. I keep looking at my ankles worried about when and if they'll get thick. With all the things Ive stressed over in my life, I had never hoped to add thick ankles to the list. He speaks on less than intelligent ppl, certain Christians, etc, etc. He not God, he's human. He was amazingly intelligent and wise... the older he got, the wiser he got. His story is amazingly interesting too. You should read about him... and not just in Wiki.
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Darkproxyposted 10 years ago
He will be and is remembered that is the only way for a man to live on in life. He has made a mark in history and forged a name in literature may we all be so luck.
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Beth37posted 10 years ago
Today's his birthday.

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  Darkproxyposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  so he died a few days before his next birthday wow
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah.. odd.
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  Darkproxyposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I can't say I support his views on mothers exactly I mean so many children die at their mother's hands for me to think like him exaclty
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  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Well... I spose that would be true of most personal pronouns...
  
  so many children die at:
  the hands of a drunk driver
  the hands of a gunman
  their own hands
  the hands of ____________ fill in the blank.
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  Darkproxyposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  That's true in some cases.
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