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Where is the Best Place to Live Off-Grid?

Updated on May 24, 2017
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OK, so you caught the off-grid bug and now you are looking to cut the apron strings, quit the rat race and head for the big outdoors to try your hand at off grid living. But where do you go and how do you pick the land to settle on? It's not as if you are choosing an apartment and can just up and leave if you don't like it. So what does a person do, where is the best place to live off-grid? In my opinion the three most important criteria for locating an off-grid homestead are water (or lack thereof), cost and community.


Thank God for the internet! We now have access to all kinds of “off-grid” websites, classified ads and You Tube videos that will help us navigate our uncharted course to “off-grid” living. I have put links to all the websites and pages below. There are sites that will match you with people who are already off the grid who need help and conversely with people who are looking for off-grid communities that have been established already. If it's land you are looking for they have classified ads, if it's information about a well drill, someone out there has that. You have only to seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened. Off-grid living can be lonely and difficult, people who are living in the wild want to share their experiences and you can benefit from the information and experience they have to offer.



WATER

Many people have asked me where is the best place to locate an off-grid homestead. There is no easy answer to that question as it depends on you and what you want. However, having said that, I have my preferences. For example, I would not want to go off-grid in the desert. There ARE people who do it and God bless them, but it seems to me that the lack of water and isolation would really put you in a precarious situation. Water is THE most important asset when living independently and off grid. Without water you will not be able to survive for very long at all. The life that people live off-grid, in the desert, is not for me. So that cuts out a good deal of the southwest. Furthermore, the isolation that the desert has can be a problem. If the SHTF and we have a total breakdown of our society how long do you think you could survive with NO outside contact? For this reason Alaska and Hawaii might not be the best choices either.

COST


Another consideration is expense. A property can be the most perfect property in the world but if it is too much money what good is it? If you are Ted Turner, I doubt you are reading this article! So the cost has to be right.

If your goal is to go off-grid then your goal is to be independent. One cannot be independent if one has debt. Therefore, the cost has to be something you can afford without going into debt. If you must go into debt then it should be at a bare minimum with the intention of paying off the debt as soon as possible.


COMMUNITY

Thirdly, and this is something I have come to after reading many articles about off-grid living...thirdly, I think it's very important to locate where there is a community of like-minded people if not nearby within a short distance. Now, some of you may want to be totally isolated from the world but that gets old for most people pretty fast. I think it's very important to have a community near-by that is supportive of you and your life-style. You can have the most beautiful place, the most independent off-grid homestead known to man, but if you have neighbors that are not friendly or even hostile to what you are doing and who you are it can ruin everything. Face it, we need each other and even in an off-grid lifestyle you might have to depend on a community at some point. This can make or break your off-grid experience in my opinion. After all, one of the things that makes off grid living doable is being able to sell your products to your neighbors. Things like raw milk, eggs and wool from your sheep can bring in some extra money and help you make a go of your homestead. If the local (or state) laws make this difficult, well it is something to consider when choosing your homestead. If the local or state laws are going to make it difficult for you to build your cob house and nickle and dime you to death over permits, fees licenses or the property taxes are prohibitive then another location may be in order.



Now there are other things to consider but I don't think that they are nearly as important as the three things I just mentioned. Some might say that the growing season is important. And, yes that is important but with the addition of a a greenhouse or two and/or aquaponic systems you can overcome this almost anywhere. Another problem for some might be extreme weather. Again this can be overcome and animals can live in almost any climate, including very cold weather. You might not WANT to live in extreme weather but that is another issue entirely. Also, gun laws have been mentioned. Personally, I think that a state's gun laws should be considered however, I would not put that as a “must have” for the simple reason that even this can be overcome. If you are using guns for security you can usually use rifles almost anywhere in the United States. If you need extra security you can use dogs and cameras. If the laws in the United States become so draconian as to make even owning rifles illegal, well then, that is unconstitutional and as far as I'm concerned those laws are not “lawful” and should not be obeyed.


So there you have it, my two cents as to what you should look for when trying to decide where to locate your off-grid homestead.

This is the kind of place you might want to avoid!

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      Leah 5 months ago

      Actually, living off the grid is not illegal in Florida. This is a misconception based on one case. I find it funny, because in the case that this is based on, the woman wasn't even completely off the grid. That was the problem. Unlike most people who live completely off the grid, the woman apparently didn't want to pay for her own water or septic. Instead she was connected to the city water and sewer (i.e. Still grid tied.) She got in trouble because she didn't pay for it like everyone else. So, basically, she got caught stealing and cried foul and said it was because she was off the grid(even though she really wasn't.) it is perfectly legal, and in many places necessary, to live off the grid in Florida.

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      Brie Hoffman 2 years ago from Manhattan

      As far as I know Florida is the only state that is doing this.

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      ToniOldBoiANFPA 2 years ago

      Hi Brie,

      I appreciated this article. Thank you for your writing. Then also I was rather saddened that what's written here may no longer apply. From what I've been seeing, there are governing bodies/municipalities in the United States that are forcing people to live ~on~ the grid; that is to say, they are making living off the grid illegal. All the more it becomes a good and now necessary task to research the community of where-ever one might wish to live off-the-grid.

      Take care out there, All.

      ToniOldBoiANFPA

      REF: current court case in Florida, http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/03/09/flo...

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      Brie Hoffman 2 years ago from Manhattan

      I actually have articles on each state (although I haven't written about every state yet)..which state are you interested in?

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      Miriam Micheals 2 years ago from United States

      Thanks for the input, but you didn't answer the question (the title of the article). Perhaps providing a list of states/areas that are favorable would be a good idea.

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      Thomas Byers 2 years ago from East Coast , United States

      Thanks Brie

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      Brie Hoffman 2 years ago from Manhattan

      Thanks "crazyhorseghost". I also wrote about going off the grid in Alaska; here is a link:

      https://hubpages.com/living/Is-Alaska-a-Good-State...

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      Thomas Byers 2 years ago from East Coast , United States

      Really great Hub Brie with a lot of great information. I have for years thought about moving to Alaska to 170 acres I own there in Southeast Alaska. I probably never will but I like to think about it. I love traveling to much. But all your Hub Pages on this subject give a lot of useful information that someone could use. I have a 4 bedroom log cabin on my Alaska land and I plan on staying there a month next summer. I have only ever stayed there a week or so before. But Brie you've really given me some useful information and made me think. Thanks for a great Hub Page. I enjoyed reading it, voted it up and shared.

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      Brie Hoffman 3 years ago from Manhattan

      Yes water is very important. Thanks for commenting "raquelle148".

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      raquelle148 3 years ago

      I don't have experience living off-grid. However, if ever I plan to live off grid. One thing I will consider is water.

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      Brie Hoffman 3 years ago from Manhattan

      I agree and I'm from California!

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      ca visitor 3 years ago

      Hi. I like your site about off-grid living. That sounds like what I want. Don't look at all to California. The rural areas might sound good but they are not. Neighboring states are better than CA. The drought and the blue state over-regulating statism out of Sac. rules CA out entirely.

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      Brie Hoffman 3 years ago from Manhattan

      Thanks "ash75".

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      ash75 3 years ago

      I did and it was fabulous! Keep up the good work!

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      Brie Hoffman 3 years ago from Manhattan

      Wow, that's awesome. Did you read my article about going off the grid in Utah?

      https://hubpages.com/living/Is-Utah-a-Good-State-t...

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      ash75 3 years ago

      This has been a great hub...Thanks Brie! I am getting ready to make the move to off-grid here in Utah. I have been planning this for several years, and I have recently purchased some land with many resources, water, etc.

      On this land, I have shipped all the materials for a small cabin as well as solar power. I grew up in the mountains here and I am very skilled in the ways of the land, and I plan on living at the site while I build the cabin. With this in mind, I know that the winters can be brutal here, but I will be using a primitive shelter or possibly a 4 season tent until the cabin is ready. I have chosen this as I do not want the added expense of propane, or any other fuel that would require a trip to town in order to maintain. This may not be the best choice for everyone, but I for one feel that there is no better way to become in tune with the land and life than to become a part of it. I mean, what's the use of going off grid if you bring the city with you? Sure I will still make the occasional trip to town as we all tend to overlook a needed necessity, but I hope to eventually not need to leave my small patch of paradise and be completely self sufficient.

      My only recommendations to anyone wanting to go off grid, is to plan well, and if possible find a community or someone to keep you company. As humans are social in nature, and living in isolation can be very taxing on the mind and spirit. Planning ahead will ensure that the transition to an off-grid lifestyle is a stress free as possible, and will also help to mitigate many factors that may cause the transition to fail, or worse, cost you your life. I wish everyone that is heading down this path the best of luck and the utmost happiness in their new life!

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      Brie Hoffman 3 years ago from Manhattan

      Thank you "emi sue", glad to be of some help.

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      Emily Lantry 3 years ago from Tennessee

      Very good points and things to think about when planning to go "off the grid". I enjoyed reading this. :)

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      Brie Hoffman 3 years ago from Manhattan

      I've never been so it's hard for me to say but good luck to you and thanks for stopping by "nathalia27".

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      Nancy 3 years ago

      Choosing from the countries mentioned in video. I prefer Australia when relocating.

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      Brie Hoffman 3 years ago from Manhattan

      I agree Montana is no good, Idaho is much better. Thanks for commenting Bevin.

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      Bevin 3 years ago

      Hey, We are thinking about how we can head off the grid and this site is VERY helpful. I might warn those of you who have children, count Montana out - it recently passed a law that ANY 3rd party person can sue you for custody of your children, and expect to get at least legalized visitation . #rd party means they do NOT have to be related to you or the child. A live -in lover, teacher, daycare worker - all qualify. BAD place for families right now. I know this is true as it happened to me and my children. Try Idaho.

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      Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan

      I like Bonners Ferry and Sandpoint, I don't like Boise because its too hot for me. A steel container wont hold the heat very well..a cob cottage will. It totally depends on how big and how fancy you want it to be.

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      Urgle 4 years ago

      Sweet, and great answer because i agree with you also.

      I also though of Idaho when getting ready to make my move. And that is

      soon. Right now I live in Vancouver BC. Canada.

      Hey, Brie how much do you think i can also make a Cob home like you. I mean what have you estimated on the cost of making one? Have you thought about steel container? might be cheaper.

      I am right now looking for land to buy there. Any ideas on the best areas? Bonners ferry? Sandpoint, or Boise area by the mountain??

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      Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan

      I really like Idaho for several reasons: One, it has a lot of natural resources, two the government tends to leave you alone, three the people are wonderful, four the taxes are lower than most and five I like the weather.

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      urgle again 4 years ago

      i mean after extensive research, i also picked Idaho. Just wondering if their was any method you your choosing, of the "where"?

      Urgle

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      urgle 4 years ago

      why did you pick idaho?

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      Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan

      Yeah, I saw this when it aired..interesting huh.

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      Remnant 4 years ago

      Thought you might enjoy this off grid article.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prN8xW_e4A0

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      Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan

      Start planning for it..little by little. That's what I am doing. You can do it!

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      ArockDaNinja 4 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

      I wish I could live a life like that. Maybe someday.

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      Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan

      Good Luck liesl5858, I'm on my way to making it happen for myself as well.

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      Linda Bryen 4 years ago from United Kingdom

      The way the world is becoming this days I would love to live off the grid. My parents did it before when I was young so am sure I will be able to do it again. I am thinking of doing just that when I retire but it won't be here in England, it will be in the Philippines. Thank you for your lovely hub.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      I will. Thank you!

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      Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan

      That's fabulous...be sure to watch the film "Back to Eden" before you start your garden.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      I was not aware of "off grid." Your Hubs came up on my Hub about Hot Springs Village Arkansas. This makes me thing outside the box. Instead of just getting a lake view, I should get enough land to grow food.

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      Of course it's legal..being off the grid just means that you are self-sufficient. However, different states have different laws about homeschooling. You should check up on what is required in your state. Personally, because of the crazy world I would keep a low profile in any case.

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      APimentel 5 years ago

      Hello Brie,

      I already bought 3 acres in Northern New Mexico. I have already done the foundation. Now waiting for a little bit more money before I can build. I am in a rush to build before December as I foresee craziness all around the world. I have a 10 year old little girl who has been taught at home since she was 6. I need to protect her and teach self-sufficiency, why I have prepared all of this. My question is is it legal to have children off grid? What are the consequences if someone would find out? Can they take her away from me?

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      I can't direct you because each and every person is different. You have to find a community that suits your needs. There is a website that I posted called LandBuddy above. You can post what you want and what you are looking for and possibly match up with like-minded people. I am also looking to relocate in Idaho but not for a few months yet.

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      Taxpayinghorse 5 years ago

      The title of your article, "Where is the best place to live off grid"...I never saw any places suggested. Did I miss something. I have been literally looking for houses at different parts of the North West parts of the country but really have no idea where to go. I'd like to find a place/community of like minded people. Can you tell me of some place and people like this?

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      That's because people are waking up to what is going on in this country.

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      www.xsharethis.com 5 years ago

      This seems to have attracted a lot of attention.

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      Darn! Oh well :)

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      Milli Thornton 5 years ago

      LOL! No, only one sister, and she has none of those skills. ;~)

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      Does he have a brother?

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      Milli Thornton 5 years ago

      People who are planning to live off the grid together should also have complementary skills. I'm not sure I would qualify as I'm just a writer who loves her coffee and modern conveniences and I don't have a lot of manual skills.

      Whereas my husband is very handy with woodworking and other manual skills, and he's technically savvy (so he would know how to rig solar systems etc. etc. - and if there was a way to have Internet off the grid, he would manage it). He's a weather nut so he understands how to read the weather and stay safe during extremes. He also has much experience with search and rescue so he's great in an emergency, and he has survival skills too. He's the guy I would definitely want to have with me if I ever ventured off the grid.

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      That's ridiculous Stan, people have been drinking cows milk for thousands of years. Jesus drank it and that's good enough for me!

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      stan 5 years ago

      Cows milk is for baby cows.

      Not for weaned thieves that cannot feed themselves without the well regarded lies of the cruel profiteers.

      Same as the living wearing the skins of the dead calling themselves the living.

      The people of the fence, blade and fire will need to loose their fettered ideologies and change before offthegrid [natural] living can manifest AGAIN.

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      Thanks James, I hope you tweeted, liked, pinned, google+ and reposted it on facebook :)

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      James Timothy Peters 5 years ago from Hammond, Indiana

      This is SUPER GREAT & VERY INFORMATIVE - This is an awesome Hub!

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      Yes, this movement is really catching on.

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      subscribing 5 years ago

      Nice hub. This reality of living outside of cities is becoming more real in the current world for many people.

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      Great WD..watch the film "Back to Eden", you will get good advice for growing things.

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      WD Curry 111 5 years ago from Space Coast

      We have a saying, now, "BP - Beyond Petroleum and off the grid."

      This article is a lot of fun. I live in Florida, so it seems weird to me that someone from Manhattan is so savvy about getting off of the grid. It is encouraging, though. We don't have to go all in, all at once. We can transition as we explore options, and newer sources of power. The grid, like it exists in Manhattan is antiquated, wasteful, and vulnerable to weather and other disruptive forces.

      Down here, we have had experiences with Hurricanes. After awhile, you accumulate enough modular sources of power (like solar cell phone chargers, portable solar panels, little wind mills, and like that). That you could make it with no power company. We are thinking that a modular approach could even work in a large city. It is good to see your interest and grasp of the concept.

      Personally, I am planting more food bearing plants and allowing the native plants to volunteer if they want. I have some raised vegetable beds, but only hearty varieties can handle the harsh sun. I got started by growing herbs. Don't get your hopes up, I am talking basil, oregano, cilantro and like that. All you need is a balcony, or even a window. The homegrown stuff will taste so good in your food, that it will start you thinking.

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      Thanks "naimishika"

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      I agree and it is a dream of mine to provide a place like that..sort of like an off-grid B&B.

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      Estar Holmes 5 years ago

      Thank you Brie for your thoughtful comments. It's heartening that people are getting on the right track. We can live well by reducing consumption, reviving traditional ways and combining those with appropriate technologies. I am another one that has lived without power and water for many years. Things can change for the better. The grassroots needs the liberty and support to experiment, to set up new systems that work better than the crumbling one we are in. Draconian regulations are severely impeding progress just when we need that freedom the most. The majority populations in the big cities need to be aware that this is happening and help turn it around. Revive the right of the grassroots to solve our problems by living simply in cooperation with nature. To begin, people need places where they can safely experience the joys of simple unhooked living and shake off their reliance on corporations.

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      Sounds ideal, thanks for commenting Sherry.

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      Sherry Hewins 5 years ago from Sierra Foothills, CA

      I have spent many years living off the grid, in the sense that I didn't have electricity. There are many areas in California where lots of people are living this way. The place that I lived without electricity the longest was in the high desert, we were lucky to have a spring and a gravity fed water system. It was less than 10 miles to town, so though we didn't have a neighbor within 5 miles it was an easy trip to the grocery store and civilization.

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      Thanks again FirstStepsFitness.

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      FirstStepsFitness 5 years ago

      So many ideas ,love the flow of your hubs , so useful ! Thank you also to so many like minded people sharing ideas and experience , such a diverse topic ! Voted up shared on face book and pinterest too !

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      I agree, now accomplishing it..is another thing :)

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      Jakob Barry 5 years ago

      Hi Brie; I've been a little familiar with this subject over the past few years but you really put things in perspective, especially the point about community. Like-mindedness is a great thing to be around and celebrates other diversities. That being the case when venturing into something like being off the grid being within a familiar group can be helpful and reassuring. Thanks!

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      Oh yea..I think that people who are looking for rural property with an off-grid homestead in mind will not run into too many of these..don't you?

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      sculptman 5 years ago

      CC&R. Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions. Is a legal term. A provision in a deed limiting the use of the property. This goes beyond zoning. Many of these type of properties end up have P.O.A too, (Property owners ass). Along with Architectural control commitee's. Telling one where, what and when you can build. Best to find area's with the least building code B.S. also.

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      Hi Sculptman: Well, I'm now looking into providing raw milk shares and certain states are not as conducive for that so I'm still researching it. What is a CCR property?

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      Sculptman 5 years ago

      Hey Brie, did anything come of your property search in Oregon ? You mentioned it here about 10 months ago. Group deal like that would work for me and my current budget. There are smaller lots for sale but many of them have limitations on what one can do on the property. CCR type property I would avoid. New to this site.

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      You can advertise your skills and possibly match up with someone who is already off-grid on www.off-grid.net

      Good luck geoff reed

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      geoff reed 5 years ago

      i would do well off grid but cant afford to go i offer my skills instead strong smart builder hunter fisherman to the right person an asset worth more than gold

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      Well, there are sites that try and match up people..one is on http://www.off-grid.net

      The other thing to do is to save up as much as you can and get the education you need. This area is becoming more popular each day so hang in there you might have to wait a little while but it will get better.

      Also, pick an area that you are interested in and call the Chamber of Commerce to see what their zoning laws are.

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      Robin 5 years ago

      Him, Brie, I have been looking to go off grid for awhile wish I had someone to go in on land with but anyone I spoke to about this and building my own cob cottage thinks I'm crazy. also I'm not sure where to go where I wouldn't have a problem with trying to build one. so unsure now. my kids are 17 and 15 so I would like to have everything in place for when they leave for collage just not sure anymore.

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      Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan

      Here is an article about where to live off the grid: https://hubpages.com/living/Where-is-the-Best-Plac...

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      pugh143 5 years ago

      Do you have any suggestions on places to move?

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      Joe 6 years ago

      Hey I got to say what a wonderful post thank you Brie I've had my homestead now for better than 30 years and for the most part all sel-sufficient except still on the grid. http://homesteadingbacktobasics.com Goods news is this next spring we will start our off grid experience. I am doing my homework and getting my plan together, Thank you for this great post.

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      Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan

      I'm glad you like it, don't forget to rate it up and thank you for commenting!

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      htodd 6 years ago from United States

      Thanks Brie for the great info ,Great

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      Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan

      Thanks Hubertsvoice and Gryphin

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      gryphin423 6 years ago from Florida

      Great hub. Actually all your hubs about off grid living are fascinating. I love the idea. Thanks for sharing!

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      Hubertsvoice 6 years ago

      Hello Brie.

      I think living off grid is great. If it were not for people living off grid in the early history of our world, we might not be the same world today. I have to assume, and I know I should never assume, but, sense I wasn't there I have to assume that when settlers came west all the way from Pennsylvania to Kentucky (a long way, huh?) they were not accepted well by the neighbors in the community. By the efforts of a few off gridders to get along with residents and a few residents, accepting the off gridders into the neighborhood the entire planet was transformed into the wonderful place we live in today. I love off gridders. Off gridders have what it takes to bring change where change is needed, and stand up for that change, like the man growing vegetables in Illinois. I guess I might be considered an off gridder. When I got tired of living in a small town in Oklahoma, I decided to off grid with my wife of 22 years and son of 11 years to the Philippines. We have been here for over a year now and love it. Many American parents think their teenagers speak a different language, mine does.

      I loved your article, thank you for writing it.

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      Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan

      You can get it via satellite. Thanks for commenting

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      Ingenira 6 years ago

      Interesting article. I have read about homeschool family who has brought up wonderful children by living off-grid.

      It's interesting to read many comments from off-grid people here. Looks like they get internet access from somewhere, and they are still connected to the rest of the world.

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      Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan

      A gun is faster.

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      JIM 6 years ago

      On the gun issue.I have no problem with losing my gun.Why because I use the oldest weapon the bow and arrow.it can be made anywhere and with some practice it can even be use for self defence.the Native Americans used them for hundreds of year.and even in our day when you have 15 to 20 people who can use a bow it can be very devastating.and arrow will penetrate right threw a bullet proff vest if need be.

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      Premature Ejaculation Treatment 6 years ago

      Thank you for this very useful and informative info. I have been wanting to move for a while now and after reading your hub I have gained a better idea of where I would like to live. Thank you for this Neat Hub!

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      glassvisage 6 years ago from Northern California

      Thanks for this Hub. I was raised in the country, and I've always loved living somewhat "off-the-grid", but I've seen magazine articles or TV shows about people who really are out in the boonies and I'm somewhat jealous. I would love to be somewhere where the cell phone waves won't get to my brain, where I can't hear any vehicle traffic, where I won't have to worry about thieves or loud music. Thanks for the Hub... Would love more photos!

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      Manuel Porras 6 years ago from Germany, Colombia, USA, Panama, Mexico, Spain

      how beautiful and peaceful place one day be in a place like this

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      Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan

      Great, welcome aboard Jagerfoods.

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      jagerfoods 6 years ago from South Carolina, USA

      I just bought my Dad a book about 'Living off the Grid' for father's day. He owns a hobby farm and has experimented with solar power since the early 80's. I saw your Hub and e-mailed him the link to it. All your information is right up his alley. Drawing off other peoples experiences has well as contributting your own will only solidify the whole movement.

      Thank you!

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      Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan

      You're welcome Dawn..actually my one hub "How much does it cost to live off the grid" has more than 7000 likes on fb..so a lot of people are interested in this. And I'm right there with you; I'm looking at this for the freedom from the government not to be anti-social. I happen to love the cities but I am right there with you...I think things will get really bad and the cities will be hard hit.

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      Dawn Maurer 6 years ago from Oklahoma

      I find it interesting that there are comments about people who want to be off grid being anti social. In reality, we arent anti social. I am a very social person. I love people and love to interact with them. However, that being said, I truly have no faith in the government. I prefer that they stay out of my business and my life. For me, I've been looking at going off grid for close to 20 years now, and I'm getting closer to it. It takes time to set up and get things ready, but also to be ready for it yourself. Many people who want to go off grid are simply looking to the future when things go very very bad, to be able to protect and provide for their families. I for one, do not want to be in the city when things go bad, because if riots occur, the first places that will be hit in a city or town, will be the places that are self sufficient and off grid. I much prefer the country life anyway. I dont usually drive in the city nor go there by myself. Friends always take me because I tend to get lost easily.

      Now, so you know, I actually grew up in suburbia and I've lived in and been to many major cities. NYC and Philly to mention just two. I lived upstate in NY and visited the city many times during my time there. I lived in Philly for a while and just lost my taste for city life completely when I was there. To this day, I dont go to a city often.

      People, who want to be off grid are practical and thrifty, they tend to like things simple and basic, but still want to have the ability to be in touch with society. I will always be around on the internet and be able to contact people I know through here, until it too is shut down by the government. Thats just the way it is and how it will be for us. When that day comes, I want to be on my own land and have the ability to provide for my children and grandchildren without having to worry about going to a store and finding nothing there. Perhaps everyone should think in terms like this. It might actually change what our government is doing to us as a nation.

      Thanks Brie for all the great hubs you've written. You have inspired me to begin my own writing and including things on here as well.

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      Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan

      Which one?

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      KB 6 years ago

      I like your video

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      Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan

      Thanks Buy House

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      Buy House 6 years ago

      Hello Brie..Thank you for sharing this wonderful article. Keep it up!

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      Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan

      Sounds like a dream, thanks for writing Dianemae

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      Dianemae 6 years ago

      Great places and ideas. I go on my sailboat. I have all the comforts of home, but peaceful, quite time. I love it.

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      Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan

      Thanks dgicre.

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      dgicre 6 years ago

      Lots of wilderness left in God's Country with plenty of water. Interesting Hub!

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      Tanja Wanderlust 6 years ago from planet earth

      thanks for this hub! I want to live in a small town!! :)

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      Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan

      Thank you for your kind comments Janellelk.