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Why I Am Not Writing In Wikinut (Yet)

Updated on May 8, 2012

This article is not about bad mouthing the website “Wikinut”. Rather, it is about making their Terms of Service clearer to every writer who plans to take part, write, submit, and publish their contents to Wikinut.

One of the problems of many web writers is their carelessness when joining a writing site. When one writer gives credit to a certain website, many writers blindly follow their advice. Some who do follow do read the website’s Terms of Service but most other writers just follow blindly. It seems to me that many writers have the motto “Strike! while the iron is hot”. Most often, it is a good motto. But it can also be a dangerous belief to have especially when a person impulsively does things without taking things into consideration and not knowing what he’s getting himself into. And that can cause so many misunderstandings and distress on the part of the writer in the future.

To be honest, I am as guilty as any writer who does not read a website’s Terms of Service to heart. I’ve already planned on joining Wikinut blindly without really reading their Terms of Service. I did scan through that section but found myself bored so I didn’t read them any further. Until I found in some of the comments in the articles regarding Wikinut that you cannot reclaim what you have already submitted to them. Another disadvantage I have read is that they will charge you if you do not participate in their site. These claims of course had made me think twice if I am still interested in joining. But then, I couldn’t just take their words for it. I must read their TOS to make sure these writers are not giving unjustifiable comments about Wikinut.


Disadvantage #1

One of the comments I have read is that you cannot reclaim what you have already submitted to them. In their TOS, they did say that once you submit content, you grant them a permanent irrevocable perpetual right.

Just My Opinion

I’m not sure what this means, but I am taking the word of the writer on this one. I think it may mean you cannot reclaim your articles or whatever medium you have submitted. If you are a writer who can write fast and you can easily think up a new article within minutes, this part of their TOS shouldn’t be a problem for you. Go ahead and submit your articles on this site. Besides, if you are really good, this is a new revenue stream that you can take advantage of. But if you are a writer who has difficulty finding new topics to write about, you just might want to think twice about joining it. Because it’s hard for you think up a new topic, you would want to maximize the potentials of your articles as much as possible. Of course, you would want to choose a site that lets you have the freedom to handle your articles the way you want to handle it.


Disadvantage #2

In another one of the comments, it has been said that they will charge you if you are a member but do not participate in their site.

In their TOS, they say that they will charge their member £0.50 (or currency equivalent) monthly after a member is deemed inactive in their site. A member is deemed inactive if he or she does not log in to their account for about 365 days. They will continue to do this until the account becomes active again or becomes nil.

Just My Opinion

That’s fair enough. And I am aware that there are people who sign up to a website, leave a few articles there and then suddenly forget about it. This part of the TOS is their way of cleaning up their site and close accounts that are dormant anyway. It is probably just their way of keeping their site clean and organized. Some writers may think it is unfair but my opinion states it otherwise. Of course, for most us, having the freedom to log in and not log in is something that we want to have. In the end, even if I somewhat agree with this TOS, it still feels better if logging in is not made mandatory in this site.


Wikinut, by the way, is a site that pays its writers in pounds (£) through paypal. The revenue shared is through page views. If you are looking for a different revenue stream, you might want to look into Wikinut.

Positive Feedback

Many writers say that they get many page views for their articles in Wikinut. In fact, they claim that they get more page views here than anywhere else online.

Negative Feedback

Even though writers in this site receive many page views, the cpm equivalent of their articles is very small.


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    • DabbleYou profile image
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      DabbleYou 5 years ago

      I guess we do need to rely on other people's experiences. Read what others have to say about a certain website. Then again, people have different experiences. lol. This is getting really confusing.

      Thanks for dropping by and for sharing your experiences. :)

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      viveresperando 5 years ago from A Place Where Nothing Is Real

      Thanks, it shows that sometimes even though we read the TOS it is not a guarantee. :)

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      DabbleYou 5 years ago

      Hello Viveresperando, sorry you have to go through that. Actually, these days, I have been reading more and more sites that do that. Some people say they are even locked out of their accounts. Best of luck. Hope you do get them removed eventually. Good luck on your ebook also. :)

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      viveresperando 5 years ago from A Place Where Nothing Is Real

      TOS is really important. I have an issue with one website right now that they allow you to delete your articles; depending how you gave your rights up. I always kept my rights, instead of selling them for like 10.00 to 15.00 an article. My issue, I can not delete my drawings (that I loaded as jpeg images). As an artist I now want my images removed and they said all you have to do is ask for them to be removed and it would be done. Waiting to publish an ebook with some of those drawings in them and I have been waiting over two years to get these images removed... grrr. so sometimes be careful, even if they say you retain your rights and all you have to ask is to get them removed and they will... pffft.

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      DabbleYou 5 years ago

      Hi Marisa, writing 150 articles is not a joke. It definitely needed some time to complete those. I hope you're still earning from them even if they're stuck with Helium. I guess in this case, receiving any kind of compensation will be good enough than getting nothing at all. I can imagine an experience like Randy's can be frustrating. All those hard work and other people are reaping the fruits of his labor.

      Thanks for sharing those horror stories, by the way. From now on, I will be more careful in reading the TOS of sites that I plan to join. I won't be bored again. Pwamis. ;) :D

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      Marisa Wright 5 years ago from Sydney

      LOL, I learned my lesson at Helium - never join a writing site without reading the TOS. Helium also keeps your articles forever (they have over 150 of mine!). They can also publish your articles in "derivative works" without paying you. Ask (fellow Hubber) Randy Godwin - they used his work in a book that sells on Amazon, and he never received a cent.

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      DabbleYou 5 years ago

      @ DMartel, sorry you have to go through that. An experience like that can be really discouraging.

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      DabbleYou 5 years ago

      Hi Audrey, I agree. The problem with many of us is, reading the TOS can bore us and so, that important part is oftentimes neglected.

      Hi Billybuc, I hope this hub served a good information.

      Hi KDuBarry03, best of luck on your online writing and welcome to hubpages. I'm glad you've found this helpful.

      Hi Marissa, It's good to know you've also read their TOS. The truth is, I had quite a difficulty understanding that part. Or maybe I just didn't want to believe it. Thanks for clearing that up. At least that's an additional information writers/readers can read about.

      Hi DMartel, thanks for sharing your experience. I have read the same things from other writers who write there.

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      DMartelonline 5 years ago

      I had a number of articles at Wikinut and I finally did get them removed (not a nice way either). After spending HOURS working up articles that ranked highly, got a lot of hits (over 39,000) and earning 3.9 POUNDS I decided it was a massive waste of time and energy. The tipping point was this: 10 referrals, 80,000 (plus) page hits and just over 5 pounds - DEFINITELY not worth the energy!

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      Marisa Wright 5 years ago from Sydney

      I noticed exactly the same thing. The TOS say you keep the copyright, but that's pretty meaningless because they keep a copy of your article IN PERPETUITY (i.e forever).

      You may think you'll never want to use that article anyway - but why would you give it away, when there are sites like HubPages where you can retain the flexibility? You never know what you may want to do in future.

      In fact there is worse than than in the TOS. Wikinut also retains the right to republish your article in "derivative works" such as ebooks, without further payment to you.

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      KDuBarry03 5 years ago

      This is definitely an eye opener for new online writers like myself. I am definitely taking this advise! Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Interesting information about which I knew nothing. Thank you!

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      Audrey Howitt 5 years ago from California

      This was informative. I still think it is necessary to read the TOS. We should all know what we are getting into when we join a writing platform of any kind.

      Cheers!