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Beware Jim Richards' False Doctrine

Updated on April 23, 2015

Dr. Jim Richards Teaches Jesus as a Sinner

This short article examines 1 key doctrine of Dr. James B. Richards of Impact Ministries. Using his video quotes I will explain and expose this false doctrine. I contacted Dr. Jim Richards and asked him to address the error and he has neglected to privately or publicly reject his heretical teaching. I feel the doctrine must be exposed so that you can make an informed decision between what the Bible teaches about Jesus and what Dr. Richards believes.

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Dr. James B. Richards, Impact Ministries Creation to Calvary Video

Jim Richards exposes his belief about Jesus becoming a sinner in the Creation to Calvary Video that he displayed on his Impact Ministries Website. This video has now been updated but I recommend that you click the link below so you can watch the original for yourself. Although you will hear him say that Jesus was born without a sin nature he believes that while he was on the cross " he literally became our sin" says Jim and around the 3min - 3:30sec mark of the video he reinforces this teaching by saying "god supernaturally made all our sins to meet together in Jesus and he literally became our sin"..."it would not satisfy justice for somebody else to pay for your sin the sinner had to pay for your sin so Jesus

literally had to become my sin and your sin in order to pay the price we owed". Did you catch that? He called Jesus a sinner! This is blasphemy and an attack on the sinless blood of Jesus, and no small error for the teacher or the student!

Creation to Calvary Video Link

Watch as Jim Richards shares his belief about Jesus becoming a sinner 3:25-3:35 mark.

Click on the link below

Did Jesus become a sinner as Jim Richards says?

The question becomes did Jesus carry our sin as a burden or did he literally become a sinner? It may seem like a small difference but we are not splitting hairs here we are establishing whether Jesus was a sinless man who has the power to save us with his sinless blood or did he die a sinner with no saving power. Why does this matter? If you are following the "Sinner Jesus" that Dr. Richards preaches then you are following another Jesus which I will describe in the next section. First I will address the fact that The Holy Bible does not support Jim Richards' belief and it is made evident in the following scriptures:

1) Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Comment This passage establishes that all our sins were laid on Jesus not that it was placed in him or that he committed sin. To say that Jesus became the burden that was laid on him is to say that he became a murderer, a rapist, a thief, and a liar. How then could his blood have remained pure enough to purchase our souls and continually take away our sin even now? Jesus did not become a possessed madman on the cross and to say that he did is blasphemy.

2) 1John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

3) John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Comment These passages establish that Jesus came to take away our sin not to become a sinner because as it further states in him is no sin.

4) 1Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

Comment There are many more scriptures I could list because the whole Bible establishes the doctrine of the sacrifice of the just for the unjust as this 4th scripture does. Which makes it so obvious that Jim Richards " unjust for the unjust" teaching is from another gospel and another Jesus. In fact this Bible principle of the just for the unjust sacrifice is well understood by the general public since it is commonly replicated in the plots of popular movies like Les Miserables, Armageddon, and The Guardian.

5) Acts 2:30-32 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

Conclusion Jesus was a sinless man. Not just because he was miraculously born of a virgin but because Jesus is the Son of God! As a result of his sinless nature he was acceptable as the perfect sacrifice. Unblemished in every way and able to pay the ultimate price through his sacrifice for our sin. He paid it! The just for the unjust. The price could never be paid by a sinner: 1Peter 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Ref neverthirsty.org

What to do with a False Teacher

  1. Judge their doctrine and identify them (not their heart or motive but their doctrine) - John 7:24
  2. Try them to see if their teaching matches the Bible - Revelation Chapter 2
  3. Mark them and avoid them - Romans Chapter 16:17
  4. Rebuke them sharply - Titus 1:13
  5. Have no fellowship with false apostles teaching false doctrine - Ephesians 5:11
  6. Withdraw from them - II Thessalonians 3:6, 3:14-15, II Timothy 3:5-7
  7. Don't receive them into your house including tracts, magazines, books, DVD's or TV programs - II John 1:10-11
  8. Reject them as Heretics after second admonition - Titus 3:10-11
  9. Public Rebuke - Galatians 2:11-14, II Timothy 4:10, I Timothy 1:18-20, II Timothy 2:15-18, III John 9

More on Another Gospel, Another Jesus

Dr. Jim Richards is preaching another gospel who's main character is a man named Jesus who became a sinner. This sinner is not the same Jesus as we learn about in the bible which means he is preaching another Jesus. Here is what the Bible says about the matter:

Galatians 1:8,9 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

The man who preaches a false gospel is judged by God and his judgement is written here in the Holy Bible. We all make mistakes and need to repent of them but there are also consequences for our sins, real life consequences. Pray that Jim Richards repents of this false doctrine before he and his many followers are eternally destroyed by it.

I will publicly post any correction or retraction of false doctrine supplied to me by Dr. James Richards below this final paragraph which outlines how he feels similar situations that destroy innocent people should be handled.

In Dr. James B. Richards Blog, Greasy Grace or Righteous Faith he says the following in the second to last paragraph: Those who preach grace as mercy, or any hint of irresponsibility must repent and publicly correct their erroneous doctrine. Likewise those who oppose and speak against grace must repent of their doubt and publicly rectify their error. Both sides of this conflict are destroying innocent people who are looking to us to point them to the Life promised in the Lord Jesus!"

This space is reserved for Jim Richards public correction for his unrepentant teaching of a false gospel and false Jesus. While this black box remains there is no retraction. Jim has read this article.

Beware of Jim Richards and False Teaching

Jim Richards is preaching the same doctrine as Kenneth Copeland. It is false doctrine that attacks Jesus' sinless blood. Listen.

Run from False Teachers - Carter Conlon

What do you believe?

Do you believe that Jim Richards is preaching about another Jesus?

Yes I believe the scriptures describe a Jesus who could never be called a sinner

Yes I believe the scriptures describe a Jesus who could never be called a sinner

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    • Michael 4 months ago

      I would like to receive your emails especially if your exposing false doctrines and the people , I want to know names who they are and everything please. GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS

    • Dewite Preston 4 months ago

      Do you seriously want to take one statement that a man uses and use it to totally try to undermine his whole ministry?

      You do understand that rather you are right or wrong here, people are not perfect and they all interpret the Bible Differently. Even if he is in error, it is most likely not to hurt people nor God.

      I honestly feel that you have an issue with Jim Richards. Either you want to attack him on a personal level or you want to try to gain some attention from attacking him.

      Let me say this. I personally have known Jim Richards. I was a part of his church for many years, I went to his school of Ministry, and I worked at the ministry. Now honestly the man isn't perfect, I honestly had to pray to God just to keep from hitting him a few times. I also questioned many aspects of his ministry and the money that was donated to it, and how his family all seemed to live off of it through various Jobs. I also felt that many who worked for his ministry left at times more damaged than when they arrived.

      HOWEVER.... I do believe that his intentions to help people are sincere. I think that he is a good writer and that he brings together real thoughts and God's word to help people have a relationship with God.

      He is just a man trying to help people. I don't know if he always goes about it the right way, but he is just a man. So I honestly look at the TOTALITY of what he has done and I think that all in all, he is making a difference in the Kingdom of God. With-out him a lot of people would have died not knowing God. So do as I have done and cut the man a break.

    • Kerry Brasher 5 months ago

      Wow. While Jim is leading people to repentance in the truth that "He became our sin who knew not sin" and "By one man sin entered the world and through one win would be absolved" - You are wasting time like a pharisee legalizing by your own interpretation. Go spend your time planting the seed instead of kneeling to the idolatry of Theology.

    • Norton R. Nowlin, M.A. 11 months ago

      As an ex-Mormon elder, I had to contend with the doctrine that Jesus was not God while he was on the earth, but merely a man trying to become a god, with a capital G. The Mormons, however, proclaim that Jesus was perfect, and without sin. This is the basis for their doctrine that mortal man can be perfect, and therefore qualify to be a god, with a capital G, just like Jesus, and, moreover, just like the Mormon father-god, with a capital G, who biologically procreated Jesus.

      Jim Richards' doctrine that Jesus became sin on the cross is another perverse gospel that must be eschewed, for Jesus was the perfect sacrifice, without blemish, as was a firstling unblemished lamb that was offered as a sacrifice for sins. Jesus did not become sin; he was perfect and was offered as a sacrifice for all the sins of mankind, past, present, and future.

    • Gayle C. 17 months ago

      He who knew no sin WAS MADE TO BE SIN. You best believe Jesus became your sin otherwise you're still carrying it. He was never a sinner by His own actions but became sin by carrying ours. He became the responsible party and was punished for it.

      You apperently know nothing about the great exchange , therefore you are short changing Jesus in the glory he deserves for ALL He did at the cross. You're a moron

    • Najat 20 months ago

      Although I wrote my comment a few minutes ago, I need to add a P.S. I am certain you have never heard form Dr. Jim Richards because your only desire is to taunt and deride. Attempting a discussion or presenting an explanation would be fruitless. You don't even want an answer.

    • Najat 20 months ago

      I do not know whether there is good purpose in adding my comments to this sorry blogger but perhaps it is necessary to overwhelm his, not only libelous words, but his probable purpose of misleading people. I can tell you, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that Dr. Jim Richards' explanation of the scriptures (Bible) is as accurate as anyone I have ever heard - and I have heard him a lot. As others have already mentioned, Jesus came to take on our sin so that we can be freed from it. No one else could have none that for everyone else has come short of perfection, otherwise known as sin. I would hope you find other ways of finding your thrills other than misleading people who are searching for the truth. There are many people who preach but who do not know their bible very well and, consequently, their interpretation can be off the mark. Jim Richards is a constant scholar and not in that category.

    • candace 21 months ago

      I personally think you are nuts. Jesus took upon all of our sin. I have encountered this Jesus and He was sinless born without sin nature as he was God and died on the cross for our sins. How people are taught that they should beat their children, that they should beat their spouses, that they should carelessly hurt others and point at one bit of scripture are in much more violation of the message of Jesus than Jim Richards. What Jim teaches is scriptural. What man teaches is scarey.

    • Reinhard 23 months ago

      I wonder who is the false teacher here. 2.Cor5:21 clearly states that Jesus BECAME sin, not took our sin, but became sin, so that we could become the righteousness of God. I don't just have righteousness, I AM righteousness. I am not a sinner saved by grace, because sinners can't go to heaven. Why did Jesus cry out, my God why have yo forsaken me? Because He became sin, and therefore was forsaken by God. That's what makes my salvation so glorious and eternally secure

    • William Evans 2 years ago

      I whole heartily agree with those who "know" Jim Richards ! I know this man. I have been to a 3 day seminar at his church in Alabama. I have been following his writings for decades .

      Had it not been for this man and his passion to free minds and help you know the real, true Jesus Christ , I would have never come to know (in his words) "God is crazy about you !!" I fell in love with my God and my savior!

      So, before "anyone" judges this man's theology, and follows the author of this blog, who obviously does not have a "passionate" relationship with God .

      I highly endorse Dr. James B. Richards interpretation of the scriptures !! God really is crazy about YOU ! James never called Jesus "a sinner ." Yes, Jesus not only took upon himself the world's sin, the bible states," he became sin !" For you !

      Too many "intellects" struggle with the simplicity of the cross ! Been there, done that !

    • William Evans 2 years ago

      I whole heartily agree with those who "know" Jim Richards ! I know this man. I have been to a 3 day seminar at his church in Alabama. I have been following his writings for decades .

      Had it not been for this man and his passion to free minds and help you know the real, true Jesus Christ , I would have never come to know (in his words) "God is crazy about you !!" I fell in love with my God and my savior!

      So, before "anyone" judges this man's theology, and follows the author of this blog, who obviously does not have a "passionate" relationship with God .

      I highly endorse Dr. James B. Richards interpretation of the scriptures !! God really is crazy about YOU !

    • kerry marshall 2 years ago

      where did he call Jesus a sinner. yet another blogger who twists things to gain an audience. I suppose you believe Billy Graham to be the antichrist or man of sin because the world loves him. the real false teachers are people like you turning causing division and strife.

    • kerry marshall 2 years ago

      where did he call Jesus a sinner. yet another blogger who twists things to gain an audience. I suppose you believe Billy Graham to be the antichrist or man of sin because the world loves him. the real false teachers are people like you turning causing division and strife.

    • Stella Danna 2 years ago

      You did not understand Jim Richards teachings. Anyone who reads the Gospel Of Peace understands that Dr. Jim Richards concurs with the scripture,"He (Jesus) that knew no sin was MADE SIN so that WE BECOME the RIGHTEOUSNESS of God. You only need to take His gift of righteousness and salvation provided by His complete work on the cross for anyone who accepts His gift. There is nothing that man can add to the work of Jesus on the cross. The good things you want to do are a by-product of understanding this truth. Jim never says to sin all you like. He quotes that the goodness of God will lead you to repentance. Also in the same book, he say that you have a crooked heart if you believe that grace gives you the license to sin. When you truly understand God's ability to forgive and save, you will develop the desire of letting go the old man and acquire the desire to put on the new man in the likeness of Jesus.

    • Stella Danna 2 years ago

      You did not understand Jim Richards teachings. Anyone who reads the Gospel Of Peace understands that Dr. Jim Richards concurs with the scripture,"He (Jesus) that knew no sin was MADE SIN so that WE BECOME the RIGHTEOUSNESS of God. You only need to take His gift of righteousness and salvation provided by His complete work on the cross for anyone who accepts His gift. There is nothing that man can add to the work of Jesus on the cross. The good things you want to do are a by-product of understanding this truth. Jim never says to sin all you like. He quotes that the goodness of God will lead you to repentance. Also in the same book, he say that you have a crooked heart if you believe that grace gives you the license to sin. When you truly understand God's ability to forgive and save, you will develop the desire of letting go the old man and acquire the desire to put on the new man in the likeness of Jesus.

    • Master Amoke.God's WarLORD of FUNance 2 years ago

      Unfortunately, the writer of this article neither understands that RAMifications of the Jewish sacrifical system {that, the animal literally was thought of a taking into its skins the error(s) of the "PARDONED ONE"_This is the historical fact behind the word "scapegoat". One was taken unto its death @ the foot of the altar {for us, Jesus's cross}. And the other was lead out of the city "after hands of the sinful was laid on each {by the high priest, no less}, & it's INNOCENCE was "ASORBED" by one needing ABSOLVEMENT from an "always" righteous & holy GODhead! Also, nor does the believer put into practice what Jesus suggests is a better way to do things; thru the writings of Paul in Philippians 1:12-21. "TO PRAISE JESUS 'ALL DAY LONG'; for the fact that others are hearing a portion of the gospel {all be it small, in the writer's estimation}. In which just understanding the concept of "Jesus $aves"; is "more than enough to get others in the family of God. Then, using a concept I learned while as a military veteran studying combat tai-chi. The reverse of the U.S. Army's phrase, 'Kill'em All - Let God Sort'em Out'. Us christians mantra SHOULD BE: "SAVE'EM ALL, & LET THE GODhead SORT'EM OUT"!!! Note_When U come across some whose perception of the true reality, is different on a growth issue. Don't, Don't, Don't be DUMB enough to hurl non-productive {ungodly} words towards/about those that mean well, but my 'actually' be lost on this matter. Just ask Jesus "Whom" needed some to be dealt with; "How" to deal with them without going to the DARK-side;-). Remember like Dr. Mike Murdock of Dallas' "TheWisdomCenter.com" says, the ANOINTING {in this case revealatory preaching} U don' t RESPECT - is The Anointing U CAN'T HAVE!!!

    • Stephanie 2 years ago

      Whether Jesus became our sin or took on our sin - the bottom line is that God planned for Jesus to be the redeemer and save His people. I'm pretty sure that Jesus nor God really care how it is interrupted, it is whether you choose to believe that Jesus died for you and whether you accept Jesus as Lord and are considered an heir to the promises of God as Jesus is. Jesus is our Savior and there is nothing we can do to cause God to love us any more or less. He sees us as He sees his son. If we accept Jesus as Lord - God sees us as righteous just like His son. All the promises of God are available for us. God's grace is sufficient - Jesus is our elder brother and He and our Father God love us very much.

    • anonymous 2 years ago

      Mr. Sandeep...what did your Savior do for you ion the cross of Calvary ???

    • anonymous 2 years ago

      "He BECAME SIN who knew no sin. " 2 Cor 5:21... I believe what the scripture records....Jesus was not a sinner.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Dr. JimRichards is helping a whole lot of people with his ministry and you should not be so quick to judge his teachings. You sir, are putting words in his mouth that simply are not there.

      he did not say Jesus was a sinner but rather that 'He became sin'

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Isaiah 55:9

      For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

      Can any of us say that we understand all the things of the bible or of this earth. Let us remember that he who is for us can not be against us. To me Jesus is God. In the Kingdom of God he who is the lowest servant will be exalted to the highest position.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Mark 9:39

      But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.

      Revelation 12:11

      And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the WORD OF THEIR TESTIMONY, and they loved not their lives unto the death.

      1 Corinthians 4:6

      And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be PUFFED UP FOR ONE AGAINST ANOTHER.

      Philippians 4:8

      Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

      THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THESE KIND OF THINGS INTO THE OPEN. WE MUST HAVE THESE KINDS OF DISCUSSIONS.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      If Jesus didn't die for our sins then who was judged for them? Answer that... clown.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      You're a clown and you're wording things wrong. He became sin not a sinner. The word sin means to miss the mark and is only used as a verb a few times. Sin is a noun a place and we were in sin. He, being in righteousness which means "as you should be" became the place that we were in to take us out of the place we were in noun. He is not a sinner [actively missing the mark in action] he became sin [the noun of missing the mark] which we were born into... clown.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Theres millions of people who are dying right now without ANY knowledge of the Lord or what he did on the cross instead of picking a fight and tearing at a man who ministers. He made a mistake OOO hes human wheres your grace why don't you do what Jesus said and pray for Him . The only person whose opinion matters at the end of the day is Gods we are going to stand before Him on that day and give an account FOR OUR OWN LIVES not the life of another, only Jesus can save and only HE can redeem. lift the man up before and ask God to show grace and strengthen him where he needs it before pointing fingers and ripping at him and attacking his ministry. YOU GET OUT THERE AND MINISTER AND SEE HOW EASY IT IS. give him a break.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      2 Cor 5:21 - It was necessary for Him to become the very thing that Had separated you from God, Nail it to the cross, so that through this you would be accepted by God as one on whom God has ascribed rigtheousness. Jesus did not in fact become a sinner, He did not have to sin. He was made sin!!! For your sake.....

      If in fact you would exchange the time you spend criticising and finding fault, and spend knowing Christ through His word, then you would have known this truth.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Jim Richards is only saying what the bible says: HE BECAME SIN FOR US (COLLOSSIANS) - Check it out for yourself. Don't put words in people's mouths that aren't there. I'm sure you actually know that in saying Jim calls Jesus a sinner you are lying!

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      I feel that you must be either lacking basic skills in logic or else you are wilfully misunderstanding Dr. Richards because you feel insecure. Dr Richards is not saying Jesus became a sinner - he is simply reitterating what the Bible says in Collossians that HE BECAME SIN FOR US! In criticising Richards' statement you are hitting at what the Bible clearly states. Which part of HE BECAME SIN FOR US don't you get? Lord, deliver this man from fastidousness about correctness and bless him with the humility and teachableness of a learner who can accept what your word says!

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      The Bible says Jesus 'became sin for us' - which is not the same thing as saying he became a sinner for us. You are wilfully playing with words to try to make out that James Richards uis saying something that he is not saying. Get over your fears and get some integrity!

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Dr Jim Doesn't believe Christ became a Sinner, but he does believe Christ took the blame for all of Humanities Sin past present & future.Once & for all Hebrew says.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      No Dr JIm is not preaching about another Jesus. Jesus became Sin all our Sin.. ei Just like when a brother or sister takes the blame for something you've done wrong they take the punishment as if they had done the wrong. Why make it more complicated than this. The problem with Religion is it makes things confusing . The Gospel is simple

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      NO not at all you have totally misunderstood him...

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Jim Richards lead me to the Lord and The holy spirit has transformed my life. Thank God for this man who is spirit lead and preaches the gospel. I think we should STOP picking a part the Preachers who are representing God and start unifying together as a body. I don't believe anyone has a 100 percent revelation of the gospel- so let's not point out the mistakes unless you are confronting that believer. This is an unfair representation of what Jim Richard's stands for, This man has brought many into the kingdom of God.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Many many , believe that - because of 2Corinthian 5:21

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Many many , believe that - because of 2Corinthian 5:21

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      I believe that if you do not believe what Dr. Richards said (not what you are saying he said) then you will have to pay all the requirements of Gods law yourself. what a fear-FULL thought Thank God that Jesus paid it ALL.

    • MrWidemouth 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Once again, great information. Thank-you very much. Are you familiar with Jim's other teachings? He talks about faith righteousness and treats faith as if it was a work - this causes people great distress when they get sick or suffer financially because they have been taught its all happening because they don't have enough faith.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      to those who don't know it and follow richard's ministry, he teaches the Jesus Died Spiritually doctrine of most minisrtries on the major christian networks. anyone who is dead spiritually is a sinner. richards teaches this when he states Jesus became sin. ask yourself this question weren't you dead spiritually before you were saved? one sinner can't save another sinner and if Jesus is dead spiritually then He can't save you either because He would be an unacceptable sacrifice and only a perfect one would do. i've been familiar with this doctrine for at least 35 years. it's a fairy tale and fake Jesus that is propagated by these teachers who are deceived. most don't have a working knowledge of the languages and twist the scriptures to fit their preconceived notions that seem to prove their points. because they are immersed in E.W Kenyon's paperback theology it is reflected in their fantasies of a supposed war in the pit where Jesus beats up the devil and is ''suddenly'' justified. justification is always on a basis and that being the shedding of blood on our end but on God' end justification is declarative as in ''they justified God'' in other words they declared Him to be righteous.

    • MrWidemouth 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Excellent, thank-you very much for sharing those points! It will be very helpful for the readers.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      richards doesn't realize he called Jesus an abstraction in 2cor 5:21 because sin is 3 things in scripture an act of disobedience to God's law, an abstract concept, or a sin offering. the way he states that Jesus became our sin would be using sin in the abstract. he who knew no sin became an abtraction for us that we might become the righteousnes of God in Him? no, sin offering of course because the word for sin or sin offering is the same word in hebrew and also in the septuagint. the key word is left out because of the content or context of the text. this is called an elipsis. we do the same thing in our culture as in ''you want to come with?'' the word ''me'' is implied. this scripture is all about the sin offering not Jesus becoming a sinner and dying spiritually. sin offering is implied and the only option that makes sense.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      He appears to be taking II Cor 5:21 at face value, "He became sin who knew no sin..." Sounds right to me.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      "Dr." JR is a WoF wolf. As to "gentle warrior" "if I was in your presence I would knock you out (and believe me...I can)." Oh I would 100% LOVE to face you arrogant false teaching trash !

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      The choices you offer with the Yes and No options below are not valid. What I hear Jim Richards saying is that Jesus became our sin, not that He became a sinner or committed any sin. Let me ask you this: for the Great Exchange to be complete, would Jesus not have to take what we had, and we get His holiness?

      We don't get holiness from God by doing righteous acts because it comes by faith in the work of the cross, just as Jesus didn't become sin (not a sinner) by committing any act of sin. Therefore I will check Yes below because the scriptures do not describe Jesus as one who could ever become a sinner....but Jim Richards never said that He became a sinner, you took what Jim said and added to it.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      Please excuse me but I need to be direct.

      There should be a third option and it should read "I believe the scriptures describe a Jesus who could never be called a sinner - just like Jim Richards KNOW teaches"

      In the first paragraph you said "This video has now been changed..." If that is not enough for you... do you just want to humiliate him?? Please search yourself.

      The fact that he changed the video is same as admitting he was wrong. Sometimes more is needed but this isn't one of those times.

      It doesn't matter what form it comes in if he acknowledges his error to the church it should satisfy us. That he didn't do it publicly for such a small error isn't a cause to call him a false teacher.

      A teacher who changes his teaching when he is found wrong is not a false teacher. Actually its proof that he is teachable/correctable which is a credit to him.

      If you find a christian teacher who doesn't make errors sometimes when he is teaching you need to "bow" at his feet because you will be in the presence of "Jesus" himself.

      Finally I am shocked that you wish the Church to "Take sides". Do you not realize you are openly trying to "divide" the Body of Christ.

      I for one am tired of the fighting we do in the Body and I hope you are too.

      Jesus said "whatever you to the least of these you do for me" (Matthew 25:40) If that is true then Jesus could also say to us what he said to Saul, when we fight among ourselves, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?â 5 And he said, âWho are You, Lord?â And He said, âI am Jesus whom you are persecuting.

      We don't need a "Saul of Tarsus" when we persecute each other just fine.

      We do as the Body of Christ need to talk about the errors that we here but we don't need to attack each other to talk about them. When we attack each other we are doing satan's work because he is the "accuser of the brethren".

      I am not trying to be unnecessarily harsh but "Iron sharpens iron, So one man sharpens another." (Proverbs 27:17) This scripture is not a image of gentleness yet it is still one of love.

      We men and women God know that often to correct each other more directly means are sometimes needed. Later in our christian walks when our metal is softened, by heat and hammering of the holy spirit, softer measures can be used, but while we are still unpliable more direct means are necessary from time to time.

      your brother,

      K

      PS: I took a side out of great protest. Clearly neither side is correct.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      Ive heard this particular message being said by Jim Richards. Sandeep Poonen is correct in what he heard.. It did raise a red flag when I heard it, though I have agreed with many things Richard teaches. As far as some of these comments that "he didn't say that" or "that's not what he meant", I completely disagree. Believers today are very gullible and lazy. I have found that many believers don't read their Word, therefore all they really know is what they hear, so sad. We are to allow the Word of God speak truth to us. We are not to change or rearrange the message of the Word of God to fit our finite understanding. Jim did indeed make this statement and did mean what he said. Jim himself would not deny it because this is what he beleives, so why are you? It's an ugly thing to have to face the truth that what we believe or who we believe may be off. But better to come out from deception into His marvelous light. Im not say not to listen to anyting from Jim. I like a lot of his teachings. I saying develop listening ears--a discerning spirit that you may divide the Word of God rightly. YOu don't teach the Word of God without being certrain of what you are saying, for those you teach will either take what you say as gospel truth or they will be a Berean and study the Word for itself. So for those of you who don't want to accept what Jim said, I bet you do not study the Word much and you don't pray for the Holy Spirit to lead you into all truth Side note: You can't expect the Holy Spirit to guide you i fyou are not in His Word.. We all need to study to show ourselves approved and able to divide the Word of God (so many are still drinking milk, not growing, just saved). Don't assume that when a men teaches the Word of God, he knows it all. He doesn't. This is why we must be wise in HIm and careful what we blurt out. Disagreeing is one thing, Being like the world in your disagreement is an entirely different thing. IT's time we stop looking like the world and start looking like Jesus. All that we do and say must reflect the Love of Christ! WE can be corrected with love, this is the fruit we should be displaying....only comes with a relationship found in Jesus and that comes by reading His Word... Won't you read His Word for yourselves with the intention to grow and change? Pay attention to what you hear.And don't be afraid to stand alone...Jesus IS ENOUGH! Let God be true and every man a liar! (Now go find out what that means. Don't lean on your own understanding) Be blessed and grow deep in the Love of Jesus and let us be obedient children! Love you in Jesus' Name.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      Your missing the point, because you don't know the man! Jesus didn't become a "sinner" he became our sin! Why do people think they have the ministry of finger pointing... that's a religious spirit and a pharasee! This guy probably don't like Andrew Wommack or Arthur Mentjes either...All great men of truth! Just saying!

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I do NOT believe Jim Richards is preaching about another Jesus. I watched him speak on Sid Roth and I didn't hear anything that was unscriptural. To accuse this man is a work of the devil. Your forcing people to make a decision based on your following comments is not stating things as they are.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I say you need to read 2 Cor. 5:21. The Amplified Bible will help you greatly! Jesus was NOTa sinner, but He TOOK our sin on the Cross for us. He went AS US, in our place. What's not to understand about this? I agree that Jim is saying Jesus is not a sinner, but took our sin!

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      You are confused, not Jim. I just heard him and he never says what you are saying he says. You are very, very confused. I suggest, instead of worrying about all the false teachers you go read your scripture.

      Jesus was not called a sinner, he took all of our sin on himself and that is exactly what Jim says. It would be nice if you took down this page!

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      At the end of the day Jim will stand before God and God will deal with him , not me , not you , but only God has the final say . We all get it wrong from time to time . I dont believe in pointing the finger , its Gods finger that should be pointing judgment , not yours or mine . I have no idea where Jims Heart his with the Lord and it would be arrogant of me to assume anything . Ill keep my eyes on Jesus , the author and finisher of my faith .Debating over who said , she said , he said achieves nothing for the body of christ . If you feel that bad about Jim get on Your knees and pray for him . There is far worse going on in the Church then a man mairly getting his words wrong . I sincerly believe that Jims loves Jesus , but he is just a man with many short comings . If we are to cast stones lets cast them at the real enemy . Bless you In Christ Jesus , Our redeemer , judge ,the beginning and the end.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      So did you go after Chris Tomlin too ?

      In a songs lyrics ."He became sin, who knew no sin,

      that we may become HIS righteousness "

      Isn't that the pre cross purpose of animal sacrifices

      for our atonement for sin ?

      Isn't that the reason Jesus died on the cross ?

      The only acceptable perfect sacrifice .

      Jesus bore all the sin , pain, hurts, etc.

      For past, present, and future sin.

      Being the omnipresent

      part of the trinity God Head He is.

      answer:

      Jesus was not a sinner, yet he became the sacrifice

      of all , that was not acceptable for relationship with God.

      And sin and God cannot stand together.

      Maybe ....

      Just Maybe ....

      The bible explains it too simply for some scholars

      to accept or understand the Old and New Testament.

      Choices for sides on discussion too limited in bias to fully express fundamental truth.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      What are talking about? The Bible says He took all our sin

      a -pone Him??

      The 2 questions you are asking below are misleading, and manipulative.

      If this is the case then you are both false!

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I listened to the video as you suggested. Jim Richards said "He made Him to become our sin". II Corinthians 5:21 says, "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him" (KJV?. Isn't the scripture the same as what Jim Richards said? Please don't accuse the man of saying what he did not say.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. I was taught how to make the Word work in my life, and was set free from fear, depression and lack. Dr. Richards is a true man of God.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      In 2 Cor 5:21 Paul is using the common rabbinic shorthand of his day -- the word "sin" was commonly used in rabbinic literature as short for "sin offering." Under the Old Covenant, animals were often identified with the sinner(s) in order to become a substitute for him/her/them. The offering laid his hands on the animal and confessed his sins, thus transferring their guilt to the sacrificial animal. Jesus no more became a sinner than the animal that was sacrificed did. He became the *substitute* for sinners when he took the *punishment* for our sins upon Himself, offering Himself in our place.

      There is only one way anyone can become a sinner: by committing a sin! Jesus "knew no sin;" therefore, he was never a sinner. What Paul is saying here is that because Jesus was sinless, he could become the substitute for those who are sinful, thus making them righteous ("justifying" or acquitting them) with "the righteousness of God" or the "righteous provision" of God, the just payment for sin, provided by God. Richards' interpretation makes nonsense of Paul's argument here.

      I don't know whether Richards also teaches, as Copeland does, the "Jesus died spiritually" error, saying that Jesus' physical death did not atone for sin because it was only a means to an end: the alleged *spiritual* death of Jesus when he, according to Copeland, et. al., suffered the torments of hell *at the hands of Satan* for three days and nights. Copeland teaches that the atonement occurred then and there, rather than on Calvary. This nullifies the saving "faith in His blood" (Rom 3:25 KJV) and contradicts many passages of the New Testament that posit the physical death of Christ -- the "blood" in rabbinical shorthand -- as the payment for mankind's sin.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Jesus cannot become sin. If I carry your baggage do I become the baggage? The whole argument is specious and without merit.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Read ch. 6 of his book about a new gospel. He says flat out Jesus was a homosexual, a thief, and a liar!!!! there are dozens of scriptures that point out he was a spotless sacrifice for us. Why else would the example be in the old testament of the passover lamb. Read the account of the jews taking a spotless lamb and sacrificing it and putting the blood on the doorposts. The jewish tradition also tells that they penned up the spotless lambs outside for 3 days to make sure it had no blemishes....are you getting the point. When you start apologizing for mr richards and start making comments like..."What he means is........" No one has to read the bible and say what this means is and say something opposite of what it says. This is very, very alarming and disturbing that this many confessing christians cannot see the error here.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I believe that you have misunderstood. He did not claim Jesus to be a sinner but that He took on your sin and mine, that Jesus became sin. 2Cor5:21. I agree with you to beware of false doctrines, but this one is far from that. In all respect, please check yourself to make sure that you do not come against those who may be speaking the Truth of the Gospel. Thank you for showing the video. It is crystal clear that apart from Jesus there is no hope. Thank You Jesus for taking my sin upon Yourself. For in Christ I have become right with God, not because of my doing, but His!

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Can you help, What does 2Corinthians5v21 mean when it says, "for he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin"? Can you help me and explain what this scripture is saying, thank you.

      You also ask me to make a choice, I don't know, help

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Yes, Jim Richards has nothing of the humility of knowing that Christ came in the flesh to safe us, his creatures, that we may be eternally united in Him, because He is my Rock and there is no wickedness in Him! He alone is God, and I live to worship and love Him with my whole heart, mind and soul.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Jesus was NEVER a sinner but He became SIN because He bore our sins. He never needed to be a sinner or to sin to become SIN. Please get it right...and recant your scathing attach on Dr Jim Richards

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I'm the righteouness of God not by virtue of any righteous act on my part. Jesus was made SIN not by any act of sinfulness on His part. He was NEVER a sinner but He became sin. He received the gift of all my sins to become sin and I received His gift of righteousness to become righteous. (2 Cor 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.)

    • yourgoldenfuture 6 years ago

      how can Jesus who is God be a sinner ...wonders... and remembers the warnings...they will come from inside...

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      God put the sins of the world on Jesus, so that we would not have to be judged for them. Jesus died on the cross, and took our place when he was sent to the abode of the wicked. Then God raised him from death to sit at the right hand of his throne. In order to be saved from our sins, Jesus had to take them and bear responsibility for them, thus paying the ultimate sacrifice. God then raised him from the death. If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, then you are saved, healed, delivered and made righteous.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      NO, I believe he's preaching Jesus correctly!

    No I believe that Jesus became a sinner on the cross just like Jim Richards teaches

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      • Dr. Dewite Preston Th.D 2 years ago

        While i see the point you are making, i think you really are splitting hairs.

        Dr. Richards and I dont agree on every detail of tge Bible but he has led a lot to Jesus through his message.

        Might I ask what you've done? That is besides condemning a man who is actually doing something?

        What Matters is that our sin went to hell with Jesus in our place.

      • Father Time 2 years ago

        Waste of cyber- space

      • Master Amoke.God's WarLORD of FUNance 2 years ago

        OBVIOUSLY, U didn't read the comment before U posted it to this page; thereby showing Ur not a genuine truth seeker. But someone bent on an agenda of legalism not GRACEOUSness from the hurt depths of Ur own soul {not the Lord of Glory's}. So let me show "U" a little love (Rom. 13:10}, & spell-out 'exactly' where I stand. I agree with Dr. Jim in every single way and "DARE" anyone to FACTuALly {Come with Ur bibles in light of Jesus customs/culture} disagree.

      • Gloria 2 years ago

        He also stated in a message on the show Its Supernatural that being poor it's a curse when Galatians 2:10 Paul tells us that we should remember the poor. Wr ought to look after the poor and feed them, not consider them cursed. That is false teaching!

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        He is preaching the TRUTH! He became sin.....it is what the word says there is no changing that!

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        Jesus clearly took our place on the cross by taking our sin upon Himself. In a way we can't fully understand, he "became sin" for us. Because he now now stood in our place, He felt utterly forsaken. As the second Adam He conquered, but He still had to die and be resurrected, the first-born from the dead. You need to cease judging others! Jim Richards has brought tremendous revelation to the Body of Christ. You yourself appear to be in need of revelation in this matter but instead you waste precious time condemning others.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        what JIM Richards said is true it is in the bible 2nd Corinthians 5. 21 read and learn your bible , and don't be so quick to judge. you owe MR RICHARDS A GREAT BIG SORRY, and ask him to forgive you and to pray for you . my name is HENRI.L.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        r

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        The bible says 2 Corinthians 5:21

        King James Version (KJV)

        21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

        therefore God made Jesus be our sins. He became sin. Check your bible.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        Dude! I pray that the PROPITIATORY SHELTER of the Blood cover you, that you connect these "dots" for yourself, cease and desist from this fear-based UNBELIEF in our Savior, repent, and cease behaving like a moron! You've become deluded by a fear that is rampant these days as individuals falling off the "other" side in a quest for man's righteousness (not reception of His Righteousness!) Have desired to fall prey to the very COVETOUSNESS described by Paul in Romans 7!

        "For He became sin... So That(!) We might become THE DIKAIOSUNE OF GOD(!) IN... IN.. IN... CHRIST JESUS!

        Remove this negativity from the net immediately... and walk in the light AS HE IS IN THE LIGHT!

        Missing the "forest" for the "trees" young one!!

        Richards is a wise man to ignore your challenge!! It has NO MERIT!!

        Dude! He became Sin on the Cross... not a sinner... hello?

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        Jim is correct and YOU are the one who is in error! Read the Bible again son...keep reading it and ask the Holy Spirit to give you revelation/truth. You are at this moment full of bullcrap.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        BTW ofcoarse Jim doesnt't believe dirty blood could save anyone duh!! The Father raised Him after the price had been paid, with CLEAN blodd!!!

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        danny makes a great point

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        It is incredible to me that you have not only taken Jim's teaching out of context but publicly done so, as though you know it all. I hesitate to remind you that he has three doctorates. I know that may not mean anything to you, but there must be something you simply are not understanding. His teachings DO line up with Scripture . . . and yes, his teaching can be taken out of context to the point where it MAY be understood to be a "works" doctrine. However, any MATURE Christian understands the difference.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        Let scripture interpret scripture. Dr. Richards is an excellent teacher in guiding diligent students of the Bible with the original text and meaning. The False Teacher claims come from Satan's worker who is trying to deceive people, like his master.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        You need help brother! Read 2 Corinthians 5:21!!! Preach the Gospel and stop fighting those who are trying to reach the lost. You have misunderstood what is being taught.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        The BIBLE does say HE ...that is JESUS became sin...for us....Good Luck to you and your 'agenda'

      • MrWidemouth 4 years ago

        @anonymous: There is no misunderstanding this direct quote "the sinner had to pay for your sin". I will look up J.I. Packer but it doesn't change the false doctrine of these word faith preachers that teach Jesus was born again in hell.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Widemouth - You have clearly misunderstood Jim Richards. Go take up your argument with J.I. Packer, esteemed theologian world-wide. I was unable to insert his web page, as squidoo apparently sees outside URLs as spam, but you can find him by googling his name, Regent College, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.

      • MrWidemouth 4 years ago

        @anonymous: Just what I thought. You don't really believe that Jesus is a sinner so why don't you stop defending Jim and start defending Jesus.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Hey Widemouth - You have an INCREDIBLY RUDE SPIRIT and are certainly not speaking words from God. Even the .jpg you have placed as an icon identifies from where and by whom YOU are speaking.

      • MrWidemouth 4 years ago

        @anonymous: I'm waiting for you to call Jesus a sinner like Jim did. Since you agree with him you can add all your PhD's together and call Jesus a literal sinner - I dare you!

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        It is appalling to me that you would come against one of the finest Bible teachers with whose works I am highly familiar. I have spent the better part of 25 years studying the Bible, and have read countless theologians' writing concerning different doctrines, among them people like J. I. Packer and Martyn Lloyd-Jones who totally AGREE with Dr. Jim Richards. According to you, these world-renowned expositors would also be in error! Clearly you do not understand the doctrine of substitutionary atonement, specifically penal substitution. As you may know, Jim Richards holds three PhDs. I happen to hold one PhD, and went through 12 years FULL-TIME in order to receive it. In my opinion your understanding is faulty. Being brought up in a pastor's home doesn't make your teaching correct. You are simply passing on an erroneous interpretation of the Bible. You know just enough to be dangerous. May I remind you that you are accountable for your words. Since most people do not have a PhD, and because God meant the Bible to be read by the lay person, it is PLAIN TO EVERYONE (but you, your father, and all your followers!) that Christ BECAME SIN when he TOOK OUR SINS on the cross so that we could be LEGALLY set free. In my educated opinion, you have GREATLY misunderstood the Word of God. You speak with such zeal, but are without the knowledge and authority to speak as you do against God's ministers. You clearly need revelation on the matter. May God give you spiritual knowledge according to His Word (Col. 1:9).

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        2 Corinthians 5:21 (NKJV), "21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." I believe Dr. Jim Richards has the correct interpretation.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Jim is spot on. I don't even see why this comment has been made. People need to stop interpreting the word of God, and taking it out of context. Jesus said what he meant, and meant what he said.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Jesus became sin so we can become righteous and have a relationship with God again

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Not being rude or hateful or anything, but I used to think the same way until I truly read his teachings, seen him speak, met him personally and reread the bible and changed my form perception of religion. Everyone is entitled to their own perceptions and understandings. I came across this and simply disagree due to being on the opposite side once before. :) I hope im making sense

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Everyone wants someone to blame. At the end of the day everyone is responsible for themselves. I listened to jim richards a few weeks ago and he was phenomenal and blasted away all the "religious" teachings I had ever known with mind blowing truths. Faith without works is dead. We are all already healed and whole by the cross. In most cases people who do get sick usually get themselves sick, and suffer financially is because of their own faults. People need something or someone or someone elses teachings to blame. No one takes responsibility for THEIR OWN faults and failures. Jim richards is not the problem. "Jesus became sin who knew no sin so we could be more like god" 2corinthians 5:21. Read the whole thing.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        who are you to take this so out of context. You have no clue what you're talking about. James Richards has it down to the T and correct. you are the one taking it out of context and making a mountain out of a molehill. Where is your faith.? you sound like an anti-christ

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Galatians 3:13 states that "Christ has redeemed us from the Curse of the Law, being made a curse for us..." and states later in verse 19 that the Law was given because of men's transgressions (sin).

        I agree with Jim. As do some of the other bloggers have noted as well!

        Jesus said to take the plank out of our own eyes before we remove the speck from our brother's eye, only judge ourselves, not others! Father in heaven is The Judge.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Mr. Poonen, I watched your video and listened to what you said about false prophets. Do you read your Bible, the whole Bible? I do! then you should know 1 Peter 2:24 it says; Who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins might live for righteousness by Whose stripes you were healed.

        This scripture clearly states that while Jesus the Christ was on the cross our sins was in His own body.

        Jesus took our sins and bore them in His own body on the cross.

        Jesus became sin for us, Who knew no sin.

        2 Corinthians 5:2 For He made Him Who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

        Sins or sinner it does not matter the word, Jesus holy and pure as he is took on in Himself our sins.

        Technically, Jesus died while bearing the sin of the world in His own body on the cross, all of this according to the scriptures.

        I don't understand why you would attack Mr. Kenneth Copeland also, you know that he believes in God, has much good fruit in his life, family, people, ministry etc. He is a dignitary and shared the gospel helping people for many years and counting and his children,and his children's children are also continuing in Jesus, you should be ashamed to attack him.

        I know you think you are right and have a zeal for the Lord, so do I.

        But I have often noticed that in the wild it is the wolf who attacks not the sheep.

        There are abuses I agree and must be addressed firmly and sharply.

        There are also those who attack others to try to get a name for themselves.

        Now your message about false prophets is perfect for this time, and very helpful ,but be careful who you are accusing!

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        No I don't accept your false dichotomy.

        The Jesus that I hear Jim Richards teach about is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords who is risen from the dead to Life Everlasting and He is the Jesus who conquered the devil, death, hell, and the condemnation of the Law. I have received more from the teaching of Dr. Richards than I did from 20 years of growing up in church as the son of a pastor. The error is yours, not Dr. Richards.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I am not sure you are correct

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Have you ever seen Jim Richards in person? I have and know he is very in depth and right on. It looks like every response is in favor of jim Richards. You obviously have not done your homework. We are not under Law but under Grace. Jesus did become sin for us so that we might become the righteousness of Christ Jesus.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        That whoever runs this website is despicable. You don't do this type of thing in public,non believers are watching this. We are not under law ,but rather under grace. Where's yours? Do you get a kick doing this?

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Whoever wrote this article is an idiot and if I was in your presence I would knock you out (and believe me...I can). It angers me to see so many cowards attack others in the body of Christ who are doing their best to spread the fame of Jesus Christ. Get over you arrogant self and start helping precious people find hope and healing through the love of Jesus. You don't have all of the answers...nobody does. My gosh...isn't there enough pain in this world already. September 21, 1990 at 9:30pm...I was regenerated by the Holy Spirit as I called on the Name of Jesus to forgive me. I was instantly delivered from drugs,alcohol and a broken heart. I have sense earned a college degree in Theology and have been faithfully serving as a lead pastor for over 12 yrs. I just mentioned this so you would know that I have encountered the Jesus of Scripture and love Him with every fiber of my being. My theology may be different from other dear believers, but I still love them as I do you! What I mentioned in the last 2 sentences was just for you to know that I am a devoted follower of Jesus who truly loves the people He died for...and that is everyone! This is what validates what I have said in this post. P.S... However you want to play with the words in II Corinthians 5:21, the idea is not that Jesus was a sinner, obviously He never sinned. However, He willingly became "our sin", so we might become "His Righteousness". We are no more righteous than Jesus is a sinner. Nevertheless, Jesus took on our sin, so we could take on His righteousness...it's as simple as that. Romans 1:4 makes it very clear that Jesus was resurrected from the dead according to the spirit of holiness. That means He was not a sinner, but did died a sinners death on our behalf with all the due judgement and wrath of God. When we stand before God born first as sinners, we are granted access into the kingdom of God because we have born again and given the gift of righteousness.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        no and i think you need help.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        whoever posted this video needs to reexamine scripture. In 2Corinthians 5:21 It says, and I quote." He who knew no sin(BECAME) sin so that we might become the Righteousness of God" I have been listening to Jim Richards going on 25 years and this is nothing more than a miss understanding or a miss quote.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        2 Corinthians 5:21

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        So.... correct me if I'm wrong...You have decided to be offended on Jesus' behalf because you have perceived Dr. Richards to be calling Jesus names? .... are you concerned for Jesus reputation? or perhaps that Jesus is unable to defend himself...might I remind you that Jesus himself preferred spending time with sinners,and is, in fact, called a friend of sinners. The people Jesus didn't want to be associated with were critical, rule loving, legalistic pharisees, who hindered people from coming to Jesus with their nitpicking and hair splitting. I encourage you to truly ask Jesus his opinion on Dr. Richards. I don't believe it is our job to take up offense with anyone on Jesus behalf, and certainly to not do it in such a way that may mar the reputation of a man who has dedicated a good portion of his life to helping people find their way past religion to God. Thank you for posting this, as It allowed me once again to listen to an incredible message from Dr. Richards about God's amazing plan for us and his abundant grace to all mankind. Bless you.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        This is exactly the kind of web page that Satan loves - distraction from more important Kingdom issues, splitting the body of Christ over simple misunderstandings. What a potentially destructive and waste of time both for yourself and others. Perhaps you should examine your motives / heart in dong this. And, no I do not know who Jim Richards, but the content of this is not very helpful at all.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I believe in Dr Jim Richards and i think it is so sad that people waste there time on creating a web page on other preachers. Get a life! Dr Jim Richards was called to preach and bring the Gospel to the world, people can bend the truth, that just goes to show their hearts aren't straight. Go Dr Jim Richards continue teaching and letting the world know about Jesus and our Father. Things like this wouldn't bother Jim Richards as he knows what he's destiny is.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I believe you are totally missing the main issues. I believe Jim Richards will be rewarded for having brought salvationa and healing to many people. I believe God will say 'Well done good and faithful servant". However, to you he is going to say, who called you to be the judge over my servants? Why didn't you just preach the gospel and leave judging my servants to me? God said to judge them by their fruit. What kind of fruit do you have? Dr. Jim Richards has thousands of souls saved and healed. I suggest you look to the beam in your own eye!

        2 Cor. 5:21 says Jesus was made to be sin for us.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I believe every Christian has the potential to preach something "incorrectly", If we want to be protected from deception, then we had better have a relationship with God so he can be our shepard. That takes personal responsibilities. When you know God, you know what you are hearing has holes in it. I cannot listen to more than half the preachers on television today because of the rubbish they preach. So yes I have read this mans books etc. I can say this, He makes alot more sense than most people preaching the gospel today. Can he be wrong, sure. Do I care? I am in Gods care. I have not met or heard one person that has every thing they preach politicaly correct. Myself included. Personaly Jim Richards swims against the stream of what gets preached everyday on tv and in churches. Perhaps the world needs to stop and listen. I know I am and I dont regret one minute of it. Go Dr James Richards.

        I have had this thought as a believer. Did Jesus know what it was like to be a sinner, how did this seemingly perfect man identify with what it feels like to be me or you. What part of him felt the burden of sin the world feels, did he feel all of mans sin on the cross. He felt something, and knew something to die for us.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I think that you are looking for more excuses to split the body of Christ, something many have already accomplished by means of creating many religions based on doctrines and interpretations. Christ made no sin, we all knoe that, but He carried the sin of the world and was made sin in our placed not because He made sin but rather because of ours. So I suggest you stop the fight and accept everything the Father did, He made Him sin even when He had made no sin. And I beleive that He carried our sins before the foundation of the world and not after.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        No. Jim would never say that Jesus sinned in any way. But on the cross the Father treats him as the object of guilt, shame, condemnation, curse, etc. He took on the identity of a sinner, though he never sinned, just like we take on the identity of being righteous by the free gift even though we could never attain it. This is why Apostle Paul said, "God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." 2 Corinthians 5:21.

        There is debate about whether Paul was saying he became "sin" or he became a "sin offering." Good translations and scholars say could be either. We know Jesus never personally sinned, but we also know that he became the epitome of sin and sinner taking our judgment on the cross.

        Actually this is forcing me to take a side to post but there is no side, there is only a misunderstanding of the gospel!

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Jesus was without personal sin, however the scripture teaches he became sin for us when he took the sins of the world upon himself.

        To the author of this article, Mr Richards is completly correct as he's quoting scripture.. The reason he's not answered back to you is because he knows according to scripture he has nothing to answer.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        We're talking Jesus in physical form, not spirit...Corinthians 5:21 says it all. Whoever set up this page obviously misunderstands and is making an attempt to interpret the bible. Dr Richards is bang on the money with what he's said.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        God forsook Jesus. God would be unjust to forsake Jesus if Jesus was only carrying someone else's sin. What part of He became sin is unclear?

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Jim Richards is a Man of the most high God! He believes in Jesus who is the Christ who lived a sinless life. His blood do save us and he did die for our sins so that we do not have to. Jesus overcame Sin, sickness and death- for us! That is what this man preaches and his teachings changes hearts and lives! Thank God for Jim Richards, what a great man hi is because of the Grace of God.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Obviously misunderstood! ...Read His Word. Enough said.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Whoever made this page is in serious error. I pray that you make amends for your attack against the Body of Christ. And all of you who sided with them would do well to open your heart to the Truth and listen to some Jim Richards. Peace to you.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        When you clean poop on the floor with a clean piece of cloth, the floor gets clean and the cloth gets the poop. To say that the cloth becomes the poop may ruffle feathers but the truth is the poop got onto the cloth - all of it, making the cloth as good (bad) as the poop. Jesus took the scums and filths of our sins and made them his as if he had committed them. Only a loving Savior could take that. Makes us want to thank him more...

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Classius, here's the message you were referring to :"this is an extreme simplification of the price jesus paid for man... Jesus became every kind of sin known to man... he took on the sin of homosexuality, he took on the sin of alcoholism. He was punished as a thief, he was punished (as) a liar..." Gospel of Peace, Chapter 6, P 50, first full paragraph

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        NOT AT ALL! WAKE UP , HE DID NOT CALL JESUS A SINNER . SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR THAT HE BECAME SIN- IF YOU BECOME SIN ? WHAT ARE YOU?

        YOU SEEM TO AN ACCUSER OF THE BRETHERN, HMMM WONDER WHO THAT SOUNDS LIKE!

        BE BLESSED AND BE A BLESSING!

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        The scripture says that Jesus became my sin on the cross - got a problem with that you've got a lack of udnerstanding with both Paul the apostle's writings, with the symbolism of the lamb without spot or wrinkle becoming the substitutionary sacrifice required by the law imposed on the jews, with the symbolism of the 'sacrifice' of Isaac by Ibraham, and are wilfully ignorant of the 'passover' lamb scenario which forced the release of the Hebrews from Egypt, and I have a problem with those who take potshots at the leaders of the Church (the body of Christ) because they are taking those shots at Christ himself therefore excluding themselves from the body of Christ because Christ is supposed to dwell them as well. And I don't have time for those who don't have the balls to put their name out there and have them tied to their comments.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Jim Richards is a man of God. He teaches truth. He teaches exactly what Jesus did. Through Jim's ministry my Christian eyes have been opened to the True LOVE of my Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ! My heart has been made new and my pain has been healed. Thank you Jim foe Teaching the truth of what Jesus did for me. I'm in Love with my God!

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        You miss one blatant step, brother. When Jesus (clean blood in your words) takes our sin (dirty blood) there is a transfer. He gives us His clean blood, making us righteous. So now we are righteous (clean blood) and He has become the sinner (dirty blood). Through faith He was able to believe He was righteous despite His sin. He was righteous when he paid the price for our sin, thereby fulfilling all the scriptures that you refer to saying that He must be righteous (have clean blood) to be the Messiah.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I think the fact that you are using Donnie Swaggart in your counter arguement clearly shows your lack of ability to discern truth..

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        last part of isaiah 53:12 says He willingly gave his life and shared the fate of evil men. He took the place of many sinners and prayed that they might be forgiven.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        No JB Richards is a man if God. Jesus said " You shall know them by their fruits..." Jim 's fruit is good and lines up with the Bible. I believe the author of this lens is wrong!

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        The punishment, wrath, and consequences of (our) sin HAD to have a recipient. God created the physical laws didn't he? Justice had to be served and it was. Call it what you want (author) but the one and only Lord Jesus DIED, SUFFERED, and FELT our wrongdoings because someone had to. You (author) can try and stir up complications by wordage, or you can focus on the truth and it's relevance to your life. I hope that you can see Dr. Richards for who he is and what he has done, and maybe explore more than one phrase from a 5 minute video.

        I hope that your heart is open to seeing the big picture, for it has the power to change your entire life.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        Dr. Jim Richards preaches truth. His ministry has brought healing to so many people including myself. Everyday testimones pour into impact ministries of so many lives that have been changed and people that have been healed. I would venture to say that whoever wrote this article is making no positive difference in the world because they are to busy fault finding ministries that are actually changing the world. Everything Dr. Richards does is from a heart of love. I am so grateful for the teaching of Jim Richards, I now have a personal intimate relationship with Christ and I have accomplished things I never thought possible. My marriage is better, my relationship with Jesus is better, my life is soooo much better. Thank you Jim Richards for changing the way the world sees God and standing up for truth when no one else will.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        No, I don't. I think you are playing semantics and trying to appear significant by attacking another man of God because you cannot control him. He never said Jesus was a sinner, He said "He became our sin". No different than saying "He took our sin upon Himself". The point here is that Jesus the sinless lamb of God took the sin of the whole world and paid it's penalty on the cross so that you and I wouldnt have to pay for our own sin. This is actually a silly argument to try to make you look smart. You are angry because you couldn't draw Jim into the fight.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        This is completely altering and attacking what Jim is trying to say. I listen to Dr. Richards all of the time and he is a wonderful man of God. What Jim was trying to say in other words was that basically Jesus TOOK all of our sins and died FOR us. So in that way, yes, Jesus was full of sin while on the cross. OUR sin. WE should deserve to be put on a cross; we don't ever have to actually be on a cross though because God promised that the cross saves us from this. Jesus took YOUR place, He carried YOUR sins on His shoulders. He carried the sins of the entire human race on His shoulders. How is that not beautiful, comforting and humbling? Also left out of this article was so much of the good stuff from the rest of the video posted above, like about how God just wants to have a loving RELATIONSHIP with each and every one of us.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        no i dont,nor would he put up a page such as this..2 Co 5:21 For He hath made Him to be sin for us,who knew no sin:that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him...perhaps you ought to apologize.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        Thank God for Jim Richards, what a blessing this man has been in my life.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        It seems like even a more amazing sacrifice that someone who had never Himself sinned to choose to receive in Himself all my sins and the punishment for them. Just some food for thought: if Jesus had been born of non-Adamic blood and had never sinned how could he have physically died at all?

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        2 cor. 5/21 says Jesus BECAME sin. Rom4/25 says Jesus was delivered(to become unclean) and especially Isa 53/5,6 "the Lord has made to meet in Him the iniquity of us all".

      If You Believe Jesus Became a Sinner Then...

      You don't understand the gospel and the sinless blood of Jesus

      Maybe you can explain how dirty blood can redeem dirty blood?

      Do you wash your clothes with a handful of dirt instead of detergent?

      When you get your oil changed why don't you refill it with someone else's old oil?

      Maybe you think paying a court fine with counterfeit money won't cause any problems!

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          Milly B 17 months ago

          I am convinced that most of you have seldom or no challenges in life. If any of you ever have to weather a storm challenge in life, you will stop criticizing and stop beating each other up to work out your solution...may God Grant all of you the season of challenge where you will have to run to this man's books and make good use of his material helping you overcome your struggle---God Bless and keep all of you and May Jesus pour into you His Love and Compassion...

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          V. J. 19 months ago

          After having listened to and read much of Jim Richards teachings, I believe your analysis of what he teaches and believes to be entirely false. His teaching about who Jesus is and His grace is entirely biblical and has helped many people get out from under the legalistic teachings of many churches. Legalism keeps people in bondage and does not let them see the awesome love, grace and blessings that the Lord has for humanity.

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          Miki 2 years ago

          your nuts! I have my Doctorate in Biblical Studies and your nut!

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          Penny 2 years ago

          Such a waste of time. You need deliverance!

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          Penny 2 years ago

          Such a waste of time. You need deliverance!

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          Lynn 2 years ago

          You have totally missed what Dr. Richards is saying. You're eyes are still closed. Eileen has it right. Re-read her comment. Jesus opened the door for each one of us to confess our sins. If He had not done that there would not be the open door for us.

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          Eileen 2 years ago

          Jesus was a man with out sin, while he was healing & teaching,he was without sin until the Cross! While he was out in the wilderness for 40 days,Satan tempted him with the word of God & Jesus also came back with the word of God, shutting the mouth of Satan!! I also know the word of God good, & U can twist it all u want but u are wrong!!! When Jesus Christ was on the Cross he became a sinner by carrying every sin in the past & the future!! Why do U think he cried out to his own father(God) & said" father father why have you forsaken me" Jesus knew why even thou he said it, it was cause he was full of sin, carrying it for all people! You are the one that is being a Pharisee trying to lead people a stray! Kenneth Copeland & Joseph Prince & Andrew Wommack all speak the same Truth!! That is why in chapter John Jesus said over & Over that the Truth shall set u free! You trying to quote the scriptures like Satan & the Pharisee's did are leading people astray!!! Notice that Jesus also said in John, to the Pharisee's that they live by the old law but he is the new covenant! They were Blind like you are! I ask God to Bless you right now in The Name of Jesus Christ, those who come against us, we shall also bless them(our enemies) he will deal with u in the way he needs to!!

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          MrWidemouth 3 years ago

          @fender88: Why don't you listen to the audio file provided, then you can hear Jim say "the sinner had to die for your sins" I'm glad you think that calling Jesus a sinner is a big problem, just as I do. Don't forget to listen.

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          anonymous 3 years ago

          What does 2 Corinthians 5:21 mean? "For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." Sin being the greek word Hamartia, meaning lawlessness or to miss the mark.. Richards does not say Jesus went to hell and become a sinner or died spiritually. The doctine of substitutionary sacrifice is well established in Christian doctrine throughout the centuries. Please explain the above verse is Jesus didn't become sin for us. It is one thing to become a sin substitute and something to be a sinner. Of course Jesus was not a sinner or He couldn't provide the perfect substitutionary sacrifice for us

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          fender88 3 years ago

          Jim Richards never said Jesus was a sinner, He said Jesus was a Man, and all men are tempted. There is no temptation without the chance you could fall to that temptation.This fact makes Jesus qualified to qualify us as righteous to God. If Jesus didn't truly become a man {the son of man} then his sacrifice was meaningless. I have listened to every sermon available by Jim for 16 years and he has NEVER said Jesus was a Sinner. You are either a liar or ignorant of the truth. Try loving instead of thinking you are Gods doctrinal watchdog. You are totally wrong on this one. How many more "correctional" words of wisdom do you have for the world?

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          MrWidemouth 3 years ago

          @anonymous: You are incorrect about what Jim said. He said "the sinner had to pay for your sin". You are correct about the doctrine. Praise the Lord!

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          Jim Richards is not a false teacher of the Gospel. Jesus did not say Jesus was a sinner. In fact if you truly listen to From Creation to Calvary, Dr. Richards clearly states that Jesus lived a sinless life. He states that Jesus became sin on the Cross, that Jesus became sin for all mankind. Can you not see the error in your ways and that your judgment and criticism is very unfounded. It really makes you rather immature in your faith. Sad. Very Sad!

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          here's the most important question... is Dr. Jim Richards a born again believer and is he teaching the only way is through Christ? If he is, then that should be the end of it. Believers are spending WAAAAAAAAAAY to much time nit-picking about which doctrine is the 'official' doctrine. We are supposed to be fighting the devil not each other. We are ALL brothers and sisters in Christ if we have accepted Him as our Lord and Savior. It's not dependant on our doctrine, race, color of skin, background, or anything earthly. We will be praising God beside Amish, Catholics, Mormons, Pentecostal, Mennonite, Hutterite, JW's, Baptist, even the Westborough Baptists, post trib believers, mid-trib believers, pre-trib believers, and anyone else who has acceptedreceived Christ. It's not our job on this planet to judge - that'll happen soon enough. If Dr. Richards is wrong in his teaching then he WILL be held accountable to it. If he is in sin then he will be found out like everybody else does. Now lets get out there and kick the Hell out of this world!

          As for my 'name'... in the originals the word Christian was never used, just 'believer'. And that's what we all are - Believers.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @anonymous: the problem with so many who believe Jesus became sin literally,is that they seem to not have any background in the languages. it is very important to have a working knowledge of hebrew and greek to be able to teach adequately others if one is a teacher of the word of God. most of this "Jesus going to hell" jazz comes from the pathetic paperback theolgy of E.W.Kenyon. the sad part is his works have been plagerized by Ken Hagin,Ken Copeland and others word for word or thought for thought. Kenyon's ideas are what Richards teaches and most of his listeners have no idea that being made to be sin was Kenyon's idea. Being dead spiritually is the same as being a sinner. i've read many responses from his followers who don't realize when says "He was made to be sin'' = spiritual death=sinner.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          I don't believe Richards was stating or claiming Jesus to be a sinner or that he 'was' a sinner. What he is establishing is the transferance of the sin upon his natural body. You would agree that Jesus was being sinned against and that every part of His human flesh was being afflicted, bruised and chastised.....for what....for our iniquity! Richards suggests that on a molecular level Jesus body manifested the sin (molecular) nature as being put upon him. We all have to agree that Jesus never sinned and broke God's law....that is why He could be the perfect unblemished sacrifice. Richards is right on the money with his teaching about sin manifesting in our 'members'....even Elijah learned about them dry bones! Don't toss this very powerful teaching for a misunderstanding, perception or interpretation. Dr. Richards is not perfect and will come into error.....to err is human!

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          dear irishman, according to you we must not be descerning about any ministry. it's ok to blaspheme the the person of christ and his atoning work at calvary in regard to becoming literally sin. we are to defend the faith once delivered to the saints not ministries that contradict the truth of the gospel. the admonition that you state that the bible says about not going public is for the local church anyway. i assume you never read about paul naming names like ''alexander the coppersmith did me much harm" or ''demos has left having loved this present world'' or ''mark them that cause divisions'' which are those who teach false doctrines?

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: Brian, Jim called Jesus "the sinner" do you also call Jesus "the sinner"! If not then you disagree with Jim just like I do!

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @anonymous: Hear, hear!!!

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @anonymous: Exactly. What a lot of nonsense this website is.

          "Him who knew no sin he MADE to be SIN on our behalf; that we might BECOME the righteousness of God in him. (Douay-Rheims Bible) 2 Cor 5:21

          Jesus was treated as a Saint? No, As SIN? Yes. He was treated as SIN, Treating AS is not the same as treating somebody BECAUSE. If Jesus was not treated as SIN then the exchange would not have been complete. He who knew no sin was treated as we who knew no righteousness. In exchange for our sin we are the RIGHTEOUNESS OF GOD!

          I thank God that His Son, Jesus, was made sin for me!

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: You mean publishing evil about others like saying "Jesus is a sinner"? Yes, it is a great evil that is why I wrote the article. I called his attention to it first and he did not want to correct his statement. Please provide scripture for your assertion that going public is a gift from Satan.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          i don't believe Richard is preaching error in anyway, but you who like to publish evil about others are in great error, Richard is right according to scripture in which way you interprete it wether Jesus became our sin or our sins was laid on Him, YOU BE CAREFUL HOW YOU DISTROY YOUR OWN PEOPLE OUT OF ENVY AND JEALOSY. If you think he is wrong the bible says to call his attention to it not for you to go public, this is the gift from satan, just repent because this is how we blindly allow satan to use us against ourself, is happening almost everywhere in the body of christ. i will be praying for you that God will grant you a heart to repent. God bless

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          pastor len smith

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: chisaitenshi, I appreciate your comments very much.

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: How do you take Jim call Jesus "the sinner" out of context?

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: Excellent comments Patricia, I agree wholeheartedly.

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: Yes Steve he did. You need to listen to the audio file or watch the video link at the precise time noted in the article.

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: For calling Jesus a sinner? I'm quoting word for word here. You must not have listened to the audio file. It is Dr. Richards who needs to apologize to the Lord and to his followers.

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: There is no mistake please listen to the audio file. Dr. Richard's mistake was to call Jesus a sinner. That requires apology.

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @WriterJanis2: Thank you Janis. Sorry it took me so long to reply. I appreciate your comments.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @anonymous: ALL the different versions of the Bible seem to be saying what Jim Richards said. Strange how people who do not understand the scriptures are so ready to call ministers who do a "False Prophet". Way to go, Naomi!

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: Dear Vladimir, it is too bad that you can not see the value in protecting sound doctrine and defending the true gospel. How do you know that I don't minister to the lost and the sick. If you think doctrine purity is nonsense then you fall into the category of a fool.

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: "To be" sin is not to "be a sinner", there is a big difference. The unblemished lambs did not become spotted when the sin was laid on them - they became a replacement for sin.

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: To retract false statements about our Lord and Saviour is Christian. I haven't seen an example of that from Jim.

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: All in the name of Jesus? You seem to be misrepresenting Jesus almost as bad as Jim. The fact is that I made it so you could listen to Jim Richard's words. There is not twisting and no retraction from Jim.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          You are really twisting Jim Richard's words. You need to check yourself and repent for being an angry little bitch with a self righteous stick in your ass. All in the name of Jesus of course. ;)

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @anonymous: awesome scripture Naomi! We need the church to learn about the science of God....it's all his. "For His people suffer for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          2 Cor 5:21 -

          English Standard Version (©2001)

          For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

          New International Version (©1984)

          God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

          New American Standard Bible (©1995)

          He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

          Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)

          He made the One who did not know sin to be sin for us, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

          International Standard Version (©2012)

          God made the one who did not know sin to be sin for us, so that God's righteousness would be produced in us.

          King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)

          For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

          Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)

          For he who had not known sin made himself to become sin in your place, that we would become the righteousness of God in him.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          Wow I really thought you would have a good argument on Jim but I don't think you have anything here. Wasted time reading your blog. Go do something productive. Minister to the lost and heal the sick rather than write none sense.

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: There is a big difference between Jesus becoming a substitute for us and actually becoming sin. Listen to the audio file.

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: Sound doctrine is eternally important Sherie. It's not persecution. I went to the man first and reported the error only to have him ignore the heresy.

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          MrWidemouth 4 years ago

          @anonymous: Mike, he changed the video recently so I will have to re-watch it and report back. I included an audio file just above the black box so please listen to that at 3:25 sec to 3:35 and you will see that my logic is tight!

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          I am a Pentecostal Minister from Canada. Someone from my Church saw Dr. Richards in a neighboring town and brought some CD's that I listened to. I was personally tremendously shocked by his departure from normal Christian Doctrine. HOWEVER, in the video link you supplied that you claim Dr. Richards claims that Jesus was a sinner, he does not do that. He simply quotes the Bible where it says Jesus became sin for us. Tighten up your logic please.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          Rather ddeclare the GOOD NEWS than persecute a man of God. When will there be mercy in Christ's body! You do not display the fruits by this witchhunt! Love covers all.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @anonymous: Pastor, Scripture does not say that Jesus 'became a sinner", it does say that Jesus became sin. "For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." 2Corinthians 5:21.

          You don't have to 'bring God down", He came down on His Own. Jesus is God in the flesh and He was God on the Cross reconciling all of us back to Himself, paying our sin debt in full once and for all and for all mankind, and He arose victorious from death, hell and the grave and has returned to His rightful place- seated at the Right Hand of God The Father in Heaven constantly interceding on our behalf. thank You Jesus, that we may know You and the power of Your resurrection and all that You suffered and died so violently to give us.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          what do you do with this scripture? "For He (God) made Him (Jesus) who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him."

          2Corinthians 5:21 New King James

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          anonymous 5 years ago

          @anonymous: 2 Cor. 5:21

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          anonymous 5 years ago

          You don't have enough to do.

          Get busy and help some people

          and leave good people alone.

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          WriterJanis2 5 years ago

          You really did a lot research on this lens. Great job!

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          anonymous 5 years ago

          @anonymous: amen

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          anonymous 5 years ago

          2Cor5:21 clearly states that God MADE him who had no sin to BECOME sin that we in him might BECOME the righteousness of God. Did you think God meant this metaphorically? Then maybe our salvation is also metaphorical. Study Abraham's life and how God saw his faith and ACCOUNTED(put in his account) it to him AS righteousness. After that even when Abraham blatantly lies and gives/allows his wife to a heathen king, God never accuses him but judges the heathen kings who protest to be innocent (and God agrees, protecting them by not allowing them to touch her) because they have been duped. This is because when God says He does something, He actually means that's what He has done. True story!

          You need to accept you made a mistake and apologise to Dr Richards. Your motives are only of importance to God.

          Bless.

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          anonymous 5 years ago

          It seems this man DR. Jim Richards is due an apology.

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          anonymous 5 years ago

          I think who ever posted this article needs to re-examine the reason Christ was crucified on the cross. Christ has to bore our sins so that we could become sinless. Jesus was born sinless, Jesus was nailed on that cross sinless. But, during the final moments, Christ took our sins so that we could be forgiven and become cleansed of our sin, so that we could start to live a rightous life through "Grace". Jim never said Jesus was a sinner.

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          anonymous 5 years ago

          2 Cor. 5:21 says : He hath made Him to be sin for us who knew no sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him. - This makes it pretty clear that Jesus had no personal sin or sinful nature of His own, within Himself, but that it was imputed sinfulness, our sin charged to his account. In that sense he took on our likeness and sin as if it were His own in order to die in our place; He switched places with us and bore in His person all the full force of the misery, darkness, chaos and eternal separation that goes with sin. But the key words are "as if". He was still without sin as the scripture says. If as the theologians of old say, sin is our very nature, then Him being MADE sin for us makes sense. I am not sure what Richards is saying. It would seem that one cannot be a sinner and be without sin at the same time, so clearly Jesus didn't suddenly develop a sinful nature of His own. If he means that Jesus for a moment in time experienced all that it means to be a lost, damned sinner,and bore all the anguish and misery and penalty that entails I think that is acceptable but if he means that Jesus literaly became sinful within Himself, I don't think so. That would cancel out the sinlessness needed to pay the penalty. Again, the word imputation is key. If I pay your parking tickets or do your jail time for a crime, I stand in your stead and pay the penalty just as if it was me, but the reality still is that it was you who parked illegally or who did the crime, not me. I've switched places with you so that I pay the penalty as if I did the crime and you go free as if you did not, but reality hasn't changed one iota in terms of who is sinless and who is not. I'm still the innocent stepping in in mercy towards the guilty and you're still the guilty enjoying the freedom and blessing of the innocent. Since this is a serious matter that could have the effect of negating some of Christ's glory, Jim should share that concern and be willing to explain in a patient way ala 2 Timothy 2:25. This is a scriptural responsibility for those who teach publicly and they should not be too lofty to be patient with folks who are disturbed by something they say and want clarification if their concern is truly that the glory and honor of Christ is upheld in all things.

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          anonymous 5 years ago

          You took Dr. Richard's words out of context. Check your own motives, and align your own life.

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          anonymous 5 years ago

          Thank You Jesus for becoming sin so that I could be made righteous, and raised up in heavenly places with you. And for the record Jesus HATES religion because all it is, is a man made path to God, and we can not go to the father but through HIm, and in order to do that we have to be in HIM.

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          anonymous 5 years ago

          Jesus cannot become a sinner because He is God as well as a man. God is sinless unless you want to bring God down in your own mindheart to your own level. Just because I carry your baggage for you I do not become the baggage. Get it? The whole argument is specious and without merit.

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          MrWidemouth 5 years ago

          @JoshK47: Thanks for joining in on the conversation Josh, as you can see we are lonely voices in the wilderness here. I'm going to try to find out which book you are referring to - pretty scary comments from Jim.

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          JoshK47 5 years ago

          Interesting read - thank you for sharing!

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          MrWidemouth 5 years ago

          @conse68: Do you think it matters if we follow a "sinner" Jesus or a "sinless" Jesus? Or do you think that any Jesus will do and that these questions are foolish? Child like faith doesn't mean to be like a child with doctrine. The Bible is a sword that is used to divide. Do you disagree? If so please site scriptures

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          conse68 5 years ago

          Titus 3:9-11 "but shun foolish questionings, genealogies, strife, and disputes about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. Avoid a factious man after a first and second warning; knowing that such a one is perverted, and sins, being self-condemned." Beware of those who come from among us who are divisive. They show a lack of the fruit of the spirit and we need to be discerning. People who slander those who profess and preach Jesus Christ is Lord. I have a Masters Degree Cum Laude in Theology and was able to win arguments through "wise and persuasive words" however it does not bring life but death. I know come to Christ with a childlike faith. Seek to love God with all my heart and love and encourage others. Feeding the poor and telling others the Good News now preoccupies me and no longer do I need to be critical of others in the church who are trying their best to build the Kingdom due to my own insecurities. Lets ask ourselves what truly matters and lets build and not break down!

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          anonymous 5 years ago

          @anonymous: In any debate it is the issue at stake that is to be addressed. Instead, you resort to character defamation, and anyone with noodles in their head can spot the obvious clown.

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          anonymous 5 years ago

          @anonymous: Dear Putoff,

          The only thing that puts people off of Christianity is when they never know the real gospel in the first place. Once they know the real gospel they know the real love of Jesus and His covenant-keeping power, grace and mercy. Jesus specifically states in the gospels that he came to bring division not peace, because of belief in Him in will cause divisions in families. He is the Prince of Peace, but he never promises a life without conflict. It is more about which side of the war you are on. When it comes to the truth about who He is, it is non-negotiable. I believe Widemouth is carefully discerning what is a dangerous divergence in Jim Richards teaching regarding the true gospel. If there is any doubt on this, the burden is on Dr. Richards to clear himself. I might add that you know nothing of Widemouth's other activities other than this website. He may feed hundreds of orphans and widows. Both doctrine and life are important, not just life.

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          MrWidemouth 5 years ago

          @Colnago: Colnago, The true gospel certainly does need defending and preserving. Jim Richards has espoused false doctrine and poisoned the gospel of redemption through the sinless blood of Jesus. Jim Richards has his knickers tied in a knot about this statement too since he will not recant his statement that condemns Jesus as a sinner. You can jump up and down and claim Jim Richard's godliness until the end of time but I can assure you that no godly man can call Jesus a sinner without fallout. I have marked the one causing division and supported it with sound doctrine and scriptural references I also went to Jim directly prior to writing this article which is also scriptural. You should take warning and not follow the marked man who teaches a false Jesus - you may not listen to this but I hope you do and I certainly don't think this is a funny matter.

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          Colnago 5 years ago

          Widemouth, Jesus doesn't need defending, Jim Richards doesn't need defending, you have your knickers in a knot over one statement JB Richards made. I personally know the fruits of this man's ministry and I assure he he is a very godly man. I cannot say the same for your fruits so therefore.....The Bible also says mark those who cause divisions, and yes, that is you. I know you won't listen to this ....funny that.

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          MrWidemouth 5 years ago

          @Colnago: Dear Colnago,

          What money are you referring to? 13 cents? What is shameful is that Jim Richards makes $10,000's preaching about a "sinner Jesus". I guess he's the one leeching off another man's name and you are right it's not good and he should stop, repent and preach the sinless Jesus of the Bible.

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          Colnago 5 years ago

          Widemouth...It is shamefull that you are making money off a lens like this attacking a man off God! Are you getting many visits from JB Richards Facebook page? Making moneyy of another ministry are you? Have a look at all your tags? Maybe you are just leeching of another man's name. Not good.

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          MrWidemouth 6 years ago

          @anonymous: Hi puttoff, I'm guessing you don't think Jim calling Jesus "the sinner" on his Creation to Calvary Video is harmful and shameful for all new and potential converts. Even Sunday school children know better than to call Jesus a sinner. People are put off Christianity when they follow another Jesus, the Jesus with sin that Jim is preaching. God wants division from false prophets and false teaching and I certainly will help feed the hungry.

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          anonymous 6 years ago

          I think what you are doing here is harmful and shameful.It appears you would rather be right above all else.No wonder people are put off christianity with this kind of thing going on.Instead of creating divisions,do something helpful,like feed the hungry.

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          MrWidemouth 6 years ago

          @anonymous: Hi Ian, I would be happy to address any specific concerns that you have but you haven't offered a scholarly rebuttal. Please do.

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          anonymous 6 years ago

          I AM NOT SURPRISED AMERICA HAS PROBLEMS, WHILE CLOWNS LIKE YOU GUY'S SPEW OUT YOUR RUBBISH.

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          yourgoldenfuture 6 years ago

          good you wrote this lens... that he does not answer... shows he has to hide something...

          Jesus taught about the wolfs in sheep clothing who came to devour even the elected...

          be blessed richly!

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          MrWidemouth 6 years ago

          @anonymous: Hi msboop, If Jim were a true man of God would he have not taken the video down and

          made corrections as well as a public retraction just as he asks for from other ministers? The Gospel of Jesus Christ requires defense and I will not keep quiet about false doctrine and neither should you! Ezekiel 33

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          MrWidemouth 6 years ago

          @anonymous: Hi Deliz, So you think I should take this page down? Are you defending Jim Richards and / or his belief that Jesus became a sinner? Just because Jim said some things that people like you feel his false doctrine on Jesus should be ignored? Why do you call defending the purity of Jesus stirring up strife? I am glad that you are starting to listen to teachings again :)

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          anonymous 6 years ago

          the question above this one is misleading.of course Jesus became sin,for us! He carried all sin on himself..for us! stop with the contentiousness. Jim Richards is alright in my books, a true man of God.Leave him be.

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          anonymous 6 years ago

          please stop stirring up strife..this is the stuff that drives the rest of the world nuts about christians.enough already!! I suggest you go to the "It's a new day " site and actually really listen to the series with Dr.Jim Richards...He is the reason I even started to listen to teachings again,spoke directly to my heart.at last.