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“Gun Control” latest ruling of the courts – may you conceal? Yes but not as a RIGHT

Updated on March 9, 2013

Under this ruling, cops would stop super freaks on the way to a school

We all agree, we have to stop the crazies with wrong type weapons.
We all agree, we have to stop the crazies with wrong type weapons. | Source

Court ruling has huge implications – search and seizure!

This reporter is awesome and has great style: Adam Ramirez. Colorado is the venue, 10th US District court is the scene. You do not have a right (as in 2nd amendment) to carry a weapon that is concealed.

There is now a clear ruling on the right of a citizen to bear arms in public – that are concealed. You do not have one.

There is a song by Dillon – Pancho and Lefty. There is a line in that song that I grew up with: He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. This is truth. A man that carries his weapon so that all can see is honest. Count on it, his intentions are clear. This man has a code of ethics. This man stands for the 2nd amendment. It is a good thing.

Men that openly carry a weapon are very seldom a threat, except to bad guys.

Let me tell you a short sidebar story:

My daddy was a health director/inspector in our 13,000 people town. That meant that he had to enforce laws regarding eating establishments along with saloons. Yes in this day and time and place there were hitchin posts and cowboys. I was six my daddy got a call to get on down to Joe’s Place, as there was a problem. We got there walked in the door and there was a heated argument going on at the bar in the saloon. Two of the filthiest cowboys I had ever seen were sitting at the bar. I’ll be damned but they had six guns strapped around them. This is illegal in an eating and drinking establishment. My dad simply told them to take the guns off and hand them to my son. I, gulping and nervous, took the guns put them on a peg board for such things and brought them back their tickets. My dad shut the kitchen down for an hour as punishment, as we ate a wonderful meal of enchiladas, tacos, Navajo fry bread and gingerale, refried beans and rice. Somehow our bill was covered.

The point is honest open gun wearing is appropriate but not in a bar.

The symbolic toy pistol, no longer looks like a real gun. Same logic holds for open carry.

If I see you have a gun, and I assault you --- stupid me. If you hide a gun and end up dead, stupid you.
If I see you have a gun, and I assault you --- stupid me. If you hide a gun and end up dead, stupid you. | Source

A man hiding his purpose has got no rights in America. That is just the way it is.

So a man that hides his weapon is a snake and a no good scoundrel.

Here is what the ruling did not address: Scoundrels and snakes are criminally suspicious. They are exigent circumstances, they are wild cannons in the criminal milieu. So now if a cop has a reasonable worry that you got a concealed weapon, which is not a right, he can search your lame brained person and arrest you if you do have a gun.

This is America. We are not swift to action but we are Just. We have a separation between state and religion, we have a separate and sharing of authority between the legislative, the executive and Judiciary. So our president and our legislature cannot act. But our constitution is alive in our judiciary.

This ruling is not sacrosanct, it will be reviewed. But it is a huge step in dealing with the vermin that would seek destruction of others.

Do you realize the enormity? Now a cop on a beat can stop, search and seize anyone suspected of carrying illegally. “you look weird, I suspect you, you are out of place I suspect you” and yet no gun no problem. It will infringe on guys like me that go into bad places, because I am out of place. That is ok by me. It will infringe on folks around schools that are not normals, that is ok by me. This ruling does not attack a gun. It empowers our law enforcement people to stop and question. And it does not in any way infringe on the right to carry an honest gun.

Let us honor brave warriors who protected our lands. By upholding Rights of Freedom, but let us also protect their grandchildren on our schools and streets.

All man that protects freedom is a brother. All brothers should be able to protect themselves.
All man that protects freedom is a brother. All brothers should be able to protect themselves. | Source
Look real close, real close, this hero does not have a gun. Amen.
Look real close, real close, this hero does not have a gun. Amen. | Source

Let us "bear arms". Let us be free to own. But let us hammer down on those that would deceive.

The old western movie -- the gunslinger walks down the middle of the street. Everyone can then act accordingly. Transparency is the lack of ignorance, transparency is the hallmark of a civil democratic society. Let us wear our weapons for all the honest world to see.

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    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      pstraubie48, thank you for reading and leaving a real life comment. Tough decisions. I am sure you are making the right one.

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      Patricia Scott 

      4 years ago from sunny Florida

      This issue is one we can debate and debate, is it not

      It is being read by me at a time when I am in training to purchase a gun. It is just time. So now I have to be sure I do all of the 'right' things.

      I agree that being able to search 'because I look a certain way' is just wrong.

      I am so pro America, flag waving, apple pie eating, and all but there are just some things that will rankle me. this may just be the one.

      thanks for sharing..

      Angels are on the way ps

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      God Bless Colorado!!

      And being a born and bred Arizonan I really know what I mean and mean what I say.

      We should watch and learn from Colorado.

      Thanks

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      Ziyena Brazos 

      4 years ago from Somewhere in Time ...

      As a Coloradoan, I support the right to bear arms, and I also support the right to purchase wacky tabachi. I'm so tired of parties who lean to extreme left and the right. I believe God put us on this earth to learn, to grow, and to choose, and we should all be allowed to do so without restraints of oppression from any who deem otherwise. Freedom for all creed, color, and consciousness. I guess that makes me a Libertarian, which by the way, we are on the rise :)

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      We have a code where I come from. "an honest man wears his gun for all the world to see".

      Jackie I can kill a man quick and easy with my bare hands, thanks to your government. Can you even imagine? A gun I can fire with either hand with eyes closed and hit a target.

      It makes me sick. And I am happily writing for a living now.

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      Jackie Lynnley 

      4 years ago from The Beautiful South

      I think we have a right to guns but like you I have never seen the purpose in hiding them.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      lived in White River Junction while working at Dartmouth for a spell, Just over the river and the laws changed. I do like the more practical laws of New England compared to this crazy California. Takes an act of congress to get a conceal license out here. But just as well if you ever used it you would be sued and prosecuted until hell froze over.

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      ahorseback 

      4 years ago

      Eric , in Vermont there is a legal right to conceal carry , NO permit required ! personally I believe its okay considering you might be a half hour from police protection , even in your own home ! I know that I am that far from law enforcement ! Too damned many laws in this tyrannical government anyway .AND each state has completely different laws ? g o figure ! Great hub !..........Ed

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      5 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Eddy, out in the US southwest, in all of the last century they were as common as cars or more so. It Arizona it is accepted that there are more weapons than people.

      We must keep looking for solutions

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      5 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Well I do not carry. Christopher I think we are better off without them. But then at least here in the USA only the bad guys will have em.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      mike102771 Thank you for a great comment. It seems that the policing problems you mention are normal. We cannot afford brain surgeons as cops and not everyone on radio tells the complete truth. Definitely concealing a knife in a bar is bad stuff.

      I considered that that cover was on a barrel, but concluded more likely antennae for a radio as no noticeable strap for a rifle. Good eye.

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      Eiddwen 

      5 years ago from Wales

      A very interesting article Eric;you certainly know your stuff and I look forward to many more by you.

      Eddy.

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      Christopher Antony Meade 

      5 years ago from Gillingham Kent. United Kingdom

      Better not to carry a gun at all really, but if you must have it, have one that is plainly visible.

      Good article Eric. Very sensible.

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      Michael Collins aka Lakemoron 

      5 years ago from The Village of Lakemore, Summit County, Ohio

      Over here in Akron, Ohio a building owned by a college was shut down after a woman saw a man in “camo” with a concealed gun. The building was evacuated and searched. Although it was not mentioned in the article I could see the man she saw as a part of that search because he was a trainee with the police force carrying a fake gun.

      I listen to a local talk radio station here in Akron. One day a caller spoke about how he was treated as a gun owner. His house was broken into and among other things his gun was stolen. The gun was recovered and he was told he could pick it up. His neighbor (and a cop in another city) told him to disassemble the gun before leaving the station. A dismantled gun is not considered a weapon (at least back then). And sure enough after walking out of the station and putting the gun in his trunk he was stopped by a cop (that followed him from the station) and the cop searched his car. Finding the dismantled gun he left without a bust for carrying a conceal weapon. This was the same town that arrested a roofer for carrying a concealed weapon (a knife for cutting roofing).

      I have a question about the Vietnam era soldier. Do you know this man? In a couple of books they would cover their rifles including the barrel. The M16s of the time where prone to rust and jam. The thing covered on his back on his right shoulder could be the barrel of his rifle. He could also have a side arm under all that gear?

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      5 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Rod, first let me thank you for adding to this writing in a constructive way. I think you point is firm. "if I had a gun, and saw someone shooting people I would kill them dead". And what that also leads to is "if I were going to shoot people, and I was around other peoples with guns, I would think more than twice"

      We at one time in my wild west, claimed the gun, to be the equalizer. Combine this with policing actions and I think we curb potential problems.

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      RodneyBlaec Rainey 

      5 years ago from Louisville, KY

      Unless bee bees or paintballs count, I have never shot a gun. I like to think the world would have been a better place if they were never invented, but since they were, I firmly believe our world would be better off if everyone was educated about guns and openly armed. It would add a mutually assured destruction effect to everyday life. Rogues who valued their lives would be less likely to act up and those with a death wish wouldn’t take as many lives. Another great Hub, Thank You for sharing.

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